>> it's 2023 in thailand and celebrations are in a full swing. and the midnight hour moves west. i'm gillian turner live in washington, alicia, good to be with you today. alicia: i'm alicia acuna in denver. the east coast is 12 hours away from the big ball drop, thanks

to earth cam, thousands of revellers are expecting a soggy countdown. we'll go live to the big apple later in the show. gillian: first to our top story this hour, the world is now mourning of loss of a historical religious figure. the vatican is announcing death of pope emeritus benedict xvi. and charles has more on his long lasting legacy. >> what a story he had. pope benedict xvi had an impact on catholics across the world in a position he never imagined himself in. for decades cardinal joseph ratsinger had been a key advisor to pope john paul ii, as a staunch conservative. and took the cardinals just two days to give the job to a german, scholarly man who

didn't appear to want it. as pope benedict xvi, he rattled relativism, what might be true for someone, might not be true for someone else. and he will be remembered not only for his birthday celebration in the white house, a stop at ground zero and a mass in yankee stadium, but also, by the way in which he addressed the catholic church sex abuse crisis that would haunt his papacy. >> from the sacred ministry, who is really guilty to be a pedophile cannot be priest. >> and there were other criticisms, benedict offended muslims with speech suggesting that islam could be a violent religion and a global uproar lifted ex-communication for four renegade bishops. the pope was, above all, an intellectual and a priest. he never expected to be much

more than that, but that all changed when he became pope and surprisingly well-received by the crowd in the u.s. and across the world. this morning in new york city, cardinal timothy dolan offered prayers for the pope emeritus at st. patrick's cathedral. >> yes, yes, we mourn his death. we'll miss him very much. we are sad, but we also praise jowl mighty god for the gift that he was, his 96 years. his piety. his humility. his towering intellect and his tender care of the flock. >> and the vatican has announced that pope emeritus benedict xvi's funeral will be held on tuesday in st. peter's square and pope francis will preside over the services. >> charles watson in atlanta for us this afternoon. alicia: and gillian, our next

guest was appointed consulter to the pontiff council, by pope emeritus benedict's xvi's, joining us a curtis martin president and founder of focus. curtis, it's good to see you on this sad day and we appreciate you being here. let's begin with the willingsy that he will leave behind. >> thank you all for having me. you know, i was honored to know joseph ratsinger then pope benedict more than 30 years and worked closer with him when he was a cardinal. he was a kind and gentle man who was, as i stated earlier, didn't really want to be pope, but was asked to be see and i think those of us who followed him knew that while sometimes he had the reputation in the press of being a watchdog or a difficult guy, the reality, this was a very, very gentle, gracious man. abandon of the most gracious people i've met in my entire life.

i was honored to serve him. alicia: right now, we can take a live picture. we have a live feed coming out of st. peter's basilica at the vatican right now. pope francis-- excuse me the exteriors leading the vespers service there. as we look at that, how he didn't really seek this position. he was more of an academic, a professor, someone truly dedicated to catholic teachings, but it's also been said that those who do not seek leadership are the best ones for it. your thoughts on that? >> i think it's a great point. actually, he tried to resign multiple times in his previous job and pope john paul didn't let him. and all of a sudden pope john paul passed away and the papacy was handed to benedict. he was gracious. i remember the first night he was satisfying his first mass and i work with young people and he said young people, the world offers you comfort, but you were not made for comfort, you were made for greatness and you could see young people respond to that great call.

god has created you for greatness and calling you to greatness and that's the message for young people and all people need to hear. alicia: he r end a more conservative side of the catholic church and i'm wondering how you feel that position that he held played a role after his resignation in the dual existence of pope emeritus benedict and the sitting pope? >> there's always a challenge in catholocism, we're a faith that stretches back 2000 years to jesus christ, there's a commitment to thousands of years ago and trying to live in the moment. and i think that pope benedict did a great job melding that. 1900's, it was a contentious time and i think he did a fantastic job of winning people back and earlier in the report, he talked about reuniting people and at the same time cleaning house. there were people that needed to be removed from the church. there have always been sinners within the church, that's not news, there's sinners in the

world. what matters, there are saints in the church and he did a great job of promoting that and really living as one. alicia: given enough time any leader will preside over a time of scandal, as did this pope. how do you feel he handled it over the course of his service? >> i think he did an amazing job. that being said, it was an enormous task, much worse than anybody thought, and nobody was prepared for this. and so, i think you have to grade him on a curve in the sense, this was a difficult, difficult job, but he, without any compromise worked to protect those who had been injured, to remove those who had done the harm and to purify the church which is a big, big task, talking more than a billion people. >> and one thing i just think is so interesting, he really felt differently about the spotlight than his predecessor and pope francis, isn't that true? >> he was a very thigh man. he was amazing. before he was pope he used to walk to work. i met him multiple times and he'd walk across st. peter's

square and open to conversation and offer mass every thursday in the english language for anybody who wanted to come. and once he became pope the crowds overwhelmed him and i remember meeting with him while he was pope and you had a sense the burden is something that he didn't want, and something he did the guess he could and gracious about it. he was a great man. we miss him very much and praying for him. more than anything, my heart is filled with gratitude for a man who served with value valiency for decades. alicia: thank you for your time and sharing the memories today. >> great to be with you. alicia: thank you. gillian: the legendary tv journalist and broadcast icon, barbara walters, has passed away at age 93. she was the first female anchor of an evening news program, creator of the popular talk show "the view" and emmy award

winner who inspired generations of journalists across the globe. for more details on her life and legacy we have media buzz host with us howie kurtz. walk down memory lane, what strikes you the most? >> people talked about her as a trail blazer. thee kicked down walls as a woman and scary to look back when she was a today show girl, that's condescending and then a co-host. she couldn't ask a question until the other co-host asked three questions. she j ups to abc and harry reasoners co-host, and he was such an insufferable prig, and he left. gillian: the golden years of television, i guess i'm grateful i wasn't there for it. another thing when you looked back, did she-- she obviously left a mark on the business?

did she change the business? >> the creation of "the view," bringing together women of different ages and opinions and seemed like a no-brainer. one of the most copied things in daytime investigation and sometimes the panels, 4-1 liberals, had to deal with egos like rosie o'donnell. there was an invisible line, either into news, walter cronkite and that's the way it is, or entertainment. barbara walters was into both. she proved she could be an evening news anchor and at the same time go after the interviews with spectacular murder suspects, claus van bulow, and the min menendez, and with celebrities, and high and low culture. gillian: not easy thing to do. these days we expect everybody to do everything. >> right. used to be segregated. gillian: and people who are good at it make it look easy,

it's not easy. >> right. gillian: what interviews do you think were her most important? which ones do you think we'll still be talking about 50 years from now? >> in terms of world affairs, the joint interview first ever done between barbara walters, biegun from israel, and people had no diplomatic relations and if you want to talk about the hottest interview, the height of her own career, and the hottest story of all, it was the monica lewinsky interview, everybody wanted to get that. somehow she did. here is a look at it. >> you found yourself alone with bill clinton in the chief of staff's office and you lifted the back of your jacket and you showed the president of the united states your thong underwear. where did you get the nerve?

i mean, who does that? [laughter] >> she was not embarrassed to ask a question like that, where i would have been fumbling around and therefore, she got-- tended to get more direct answers. gillian: she kind of invented that style in a way. asking very appropriating questions, without putting any emotion into it. what do you think when you look back about her style when it came to not just digging things out from guests, but sharing things about herself. >> she could be very blunt. i asked her in one of our many interviews on camera, why are you giving up the annual oscars specials or abc? i got sick of it. and when she wrote the memoir, and affair with a senator and three marriages, she showed enough vulnerability, other people felt comfortable opening up to her. gillian: how did she get them to do that? what was her secret sauce? >> secret sauce. i asked her that very question and looking back at some of my

old notes and she said i don't come off belligerently and i don't give my political point of view. if i don't get an answer, i ask what's the biggest misconception about you, and amazing what you learn. and i being a student of television and i said okay, barbara, what's the biggest misconception to you, until i started to do "the view," i was serious, authoritative and cold and now people know i'm warm ap and lovable. she was warm and remarkable. the first journalist, i think to be made fun of on "saturday night live" by gilda radner. she was a celebrity, like those she interviewed and out on top, never be another barbara walters. gillian: thank you, howie. learned a lot. tomorrow, catch howie and his panel looking at george santos, and the trump tax returns and

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>> after nearly seven weeks of searching for answers in the brutal murder of four idaho college students, police now arrested suspect bryan kohberger in a rural pennsylvania town where he was with his parents. new details about the suspect. dan springer is on the ground in moscow, idaho for us. we begin first with senior correspondent laura engle where the suspect is being held. >> yeah, gillian, this is a story that's made headlines coast to coast. the finally the headline people have been waiting for, news of arrest on the east coast. we've got new information about the suspect. telling fox news that bryan kohberger is in a suicide

prevention vest, we haven't confirmed that he's on suicide watch, but he's in that vest. after seven weeks for searching for a suspect in the grisly murders in eyes hoe, we have information to share with you. and telling christina coleman that the white elantra was found at his parents' home where he was arrested. and if that is the white elantra he drove is 2500 miles from the crime scene to his parents' home. >> we truly believe we have the individual that committed these crimes. i've always told people follow the evidence. the evidence will take you to where you need to be and just like this one did. >> and police here are still looking for the murder weapon. we've been hearing a lot about that. they haven't found that.

they say that's still a big part of this investigation, that fixed blade knife that they're looking for and that they hope they'll get more tips in this case. now that we have a face and a name to go along with the suspect, they have people who know this guy to come forward and tell what they know. gillian: laura, thank you. alicia. alicia: now to the town that was rocked by this horrific incident just weeks ago. dan springer is live in moscow, idaho. hi, dan. >> yeah, hi alicia, you know, a police source out in moscow confirmed to me a short time ago, investigators have only been focused on their suspect, bryan kohberger for the last few days, less than a week and that genetic genealogy played a key role in pointing them to their suspect. that would mean they had dna from the killer left behind from the crime scene. and kohberger did not have dna

on arrest, but you can take his dna and match it with family members. the chief don't get into that publicly, but believe that kohberger is their only suspect. >> what i can tell you we have an individual in custody who committed these horrible crimes and i do believe our community is safe, but we still need to be vigilant, right? >> we're hearing from some of the victims' families. ethan chapin's family said in a statement yesterday, we're relieved this chapter is over, because it provides a form of closure, however, it doesn't alter the outcome or alleviate the pain and we miss ethan and our family is forever changed. the chancellor at washington state university says that kohberger completed his first semester in the crimology program, if that's true he was

hiding in plain sight before going to pennsylvania. his place is just eight miles from where the murders took place. he's been here a few months, he got here in august for that program in washington state university. alicia: it's chilling to think that he's still there. dan springer, thank you. for more on what we know so far about the suspect, matt finn is here with the latest. >> the suspected killer was a ph.d. student for criminal justice and criminalology at washington state university and i was on the ground covering the story. the ufrt of idaho and washington state university are basically in neighboring cities, an easy 15 minute drive away. bryan kohberger was from pennsylvania, near the poconos. and they spoke with some of his

classmates at high school, say he was a shy genius, and girls mocked him, bullied him and threw things at him. and a classmate at college say that he was awkward and his intelligence stood out among his peers even in high level classes. a neighbor at the apartment building said he was quiet and did not appear to live a life style out of the ordinary. there's a reddit post from earlier this year surfaced that appears to show kohberger was looking to speak with people who committed crimes as part of his research for school. and the unconfirmed post he wrote in part, quote, i am inviting you to participate in a research project that seeks to understand how emotions and psychological traits influence decision making when committing a crime. since the story of these unspeakable murders first broke last month speculators online have been making comparisons of this to ted bundy. now some say that his mug shot

physically resembles ted bundy and comparisons how bundy stalked and killed college students and both went to universities in washington state. alicia. alicia: matt finn, thank you so much. gillian: for more on this let's bring in the ceo of sentinel security. and if we look ahead. law enforcement said yesterday and reiterated, the chief of police talking to one of our producers, this is far from over, now that they have a suspect, a whole new chapter in this investigation is just beginning. >> yeah, it's a true statement and i agree with the county prosecutor when he said during the press conference that this investigation is by no means over. we've entered now a new phase of the investigation now that a suspect has been identified and that will bring forth a

plethora of tips and those that knew him and may have witnessed his activities, leading up to and possibly during the event that took place. but what i can tell you from a process is we still have a ways to go here. the suspect needs to be extradited from pennsylvania to idaho and until he is extradited back to idaho, the details of the probable cause affidavit are not allowed to be released. once he arrives back in idaho, those details will come out, but they will be at a minimum, they will add a minimum establish the probable cause primarily was dna the factor that identified the suspect as the one that committed these crimes. however, the probable cause affidavit will likely not include information about sources and investigated methods. from there, it falls to the suspect and his legal team. will the suspect, for example, waive his miranda rights and

become a cooperating suspect? in this case we would rely, law enforcement would rely on the suspect to give information about the location of the murder weapon and the motive. but this is primarily in the hands of the suspect and his legal team. gillian: i've got a couple of follow-up questions based on what you just told us. the first question quick, we know his extradition is scheduled for january 3rd, but he could, as i understand it, unilaterally decide that he wants to travel to idaho before then. is that right? the decision is his to make? >> the decision is his. he can waive extradition. it will be a coordinated event between his legal team and authorities, so he could primarily end up in idaho prior to that, at which point in time, the information could be released. but there's still a lot more information that we need to garner from additional witnesses that are going to come out as well as from the

suspect. i mean, look, at the end of the day, we are very likely dealing with a sociopath here. this is a narcissistic manipulative individual that's going to try and maintain control of this investigation. if you look at earlier reports that he made some type of statement regarding is anybody else in custody. this is typical of suspects like this, that try and throw off law enforcement when they're taken into custody. they try and give law enforcement some immediate pause and doubts about the work that they've done. so law enforcement is going to have to tread lightly around this suspect. he's very intelligent. advanced degrees in the area of criminalology, and he may be trying to game the system. they'll likely see a combination of evidence listed in that affidavit like dna,

vehicle information and some other investigative information this tied them very clearly to the suspect. gillian: one of the biggest questions remaining right now, law enforcement may or may not know the answer, is whether he knew one or more or all of his victims. when do you think the public might find that out? do you think it's in police interests to make that information public or do you think they're going to hold it close to the vest? >> i think in the beginning, they'll keep it close to the vest. i mean, obviously, law enforcement wants to get the suspect to cooperate, to provide that type of information to help them conclude the investigation and establish what the relationship was. i've always said from the beginning of this, there's a lot of ways this could go. was this a target of opportunity based on the suspect's knowledge of this location in very general terms and decided to carry out these

attacks without having any direct relationship with these suspects? or was it a target based on the fact that he had a relationship with one or all of the victims that caused had i am to act out at this location, so the suspect and only the suspect is going to be able to provide that information. so it's in law enforcement's best interest to proceed cautiously as they have, and get the suspect to cooperate with authorities. >> charles, thanks so much for taking time with us today. we appreciate it, happy new year to you as well. charles marino. alicia: a record 233,000 my migrant trackings for november alone. we'll go there for a live report after this. and pray for those who persecute you. -i don't feel any different. -i don't need you to feel anything to do great things.

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headlines. pope benedict has died, the former head of the catholic church was 95 years old. his funeral is set for this coming thursday. this morning, the world was mourning the loss of trail blazing tv news icon barbara walters, she passed away at 93. she was the first woman anchor tv news and won emmys over her long career. a breakthrough in the investigation into the brutal murders ever four idaho students. bryan kohberger has been arrested. he was a grad student from washington state, miles away. and it drew nationwide atten

attention. >> encounters at the southern border are going at a record case. it's been two years since vice-president kamala harris was tasked, and joining me now is the senior fellow rodney scott. really good to see you on this new year's eve. i'm going to put up a number, a striking number because this, our border encounters just since october. 617,250. keep in mind, this is with title 42 in place, and it does remain in place. and rodney, you've been highly critical at the way the biden administration has handled title 42 these past two years, right? >> yeah, you're 100% accurate. inside the numbers if you look at just, i believe it's just october's numbers. there's 196,000 single adults, so part of the messaging from

the open borders people is this is asylum seekers and families and the numbers don't play that out. title 42 was put in place to help keep america safe to protect the medical structural along the southwest border and threat of disease or the spread of disease from outside the country coming in and not the status inside the united states. it's important to keep that in place, as long as the science backs it up. we wouldn't be talking about title 42 if the administration hadn't torn down every effective border security policy that had been put in place over decades and that's t reason that we're seeing the surge and it's fueling the cartels. >> the u.s. is taking this up in february, in place until summer. should it be lifted with as bad as things are now, what then? >> again, title 42, it's a health regulation, it's a law and it's put in place when certain conditions are in effect, if you will, or

threatening the united states from external. as long as that threat exists, it's not just covid. it's any health threat, it should stay in place. i'm not a doctor, but you look at the conditions the people are travelling through, packed together in the conditions at the border and occupancy of medical hospitals and e.r.'s along the southwest border, clearly needs to be in place for now. alicia: which leads me to the next question. we've seen the pictures of families migrants coming over and living on the streets in border cities and towns and now there's a very special health concerns with folks living on the streets. what is it that the federal government can or should do for them, but also for the american citizens living on this side of the border who are saying, they're also very concerned about their own health and welfare and safety? >> my heart goes out to these people, but really, this is

squarely on the biden administration's shoulders. they sent a message to the word that our borders were open and they created this complete disaster. we're spending millions, hundreds of millions of dollars on social services, setting up soft-sided processing facilities. you have cities like new york, washington d.c., chicago, screaming for more money and literally this could be solved overnight if the biden administration would enforce the laws already on the books. it's illegal to cross into the united states between the ports of entry, prosecute people for crimes and deport people, and last we surged judges along with law enforcement resources and expedited the asylum claims. this administration has done the opposite and they're releasing the mass majority of these people into the united states and that's the draw. that's the root cause, kamala. solve that and it goes away.

alicia: the poll looks at what americans think is happening. whom crossings do you think each year the highest, almost highest, between 500,000 and one million and 20% of the people thought that. that's pretty high. i think it shows that there are a lot of americans who have an understanding of the depth of the problem here. >> i think what's missing though is that we keep talking about immigration. this mass immigration is just cover for the cartels. so, why do asylum seekers, somebody trying to surrender to law enforcement why would they wait until 2:00 in the morning to cross a river in the desert? the cartels want distraction so they can bring in this.

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emeritus benedict xvi. he passed away overnight at age 95. fred from the policy institute for american securities, former national security council chief of staff. he joins us now. fred, talk to us about pope benedict's time on the world stage. >> as a conservative catholic, i'm going to miss him. he was not only defending the faith, but what the catholic church stood for, its foundation. in particular, he was very concerned about aggressive secularism in american society which no longer tolerates religious voices and he said this in 2010 and we can really see this today. think about the confirmation hearing of amy coney barrett with senator dianne feinstein she didn't think that she would be able to be a supreme court script because of her catholic

faith. this is what the pope fought against secularism undermining religious foundation not just of the catholic church, but of the whole world. gillian: he was an important leader on the world stage. i worked at the white house in 2008 when he came to visit president george w. bush and it was amazing at the time to see the united states government embrace him as if, you know, not just as a religious leader, but as a head of state, a foreign head of state. >> leon panetta met with him one time. a conservative catholic. the pope said to him, thank you for keeping the world safe. i mean, this is a man who got it. he got the role of the united states in the world. he understood the difference between good and evil. his papacy was far too short. we know that he made some mistakes, he was only human, but he's someone that we will really miss. gillian: we're looking at a live picture outside vatican square, for our viewers at

home. fred, while i have you here. i want to ask you about the news of the day in ukraine. ukrainians overnight were bombarded with another round of russian missiles on this new year's eve day. >> we're going to have a difficult year in 2023 as russia continues the missile bombardment and ukraine employs greater numbers of missiles and sophisticated systems that the russians may find provocative. we are going to have a new republican house that's going to be talking to the biden administration about accountability for the military aid we're giving. most republicans support ukraine, they want ukraine to win, but they're also concerned there seems to be no effort to end this war. there's no serious effort by the russians, by ukraine or the united states in finding a way to get at least an organic cease-fire to try to find a way to stop the fight and get to peace. i think by mid 2023, there will be intense pressure by republicans and democrats in congress to do that. gillian: you're one of the national security thinkers who has lent their voice to

criticism on both sides of both zelenskyy and putin for not being-- i don't want to put words in your mouth, invested in or entirely serious about a peace settlement, as an end to this war. >> i hate to criticize zelenskyy. i understand why ukrainian people and zelenskyy do not want to enter peace talks, they don't trust putin, they have good reason not to trust him. i think that zelenskyy would like to fight until the end and i think eventually if we gave zelenskyy the weapons he need, ukraine would eventually win. i'm just worried if it goes on for years and years, there will be nothing left in ukraine. and simply arming ukraine to the teeth until the point that russia is force today withdraw because the continuing missile assaults on ukraine are doing devastating damage and think about what's going to happen as the winter rolls on with these missile attacks. gillian: while the u.s. continues to cut checks for the ukrainians, one of our, you

know, sort of most dangerous adversaries right now, the iranian regime is beefing up support of russia. an incomplete list of some weapons they're supplying with, drones that explode on impact, kamikaze drones that carry warheads and short range missiles and the biden administration claiming that iranian personnel are on the ground physically inside crimea now. >> the fact that russia is relying on iran for wednesday and that russia is not providing weapons to iran shows how desperate russia is and turning to north korea for weapons. they've not turning to weapons for china which is a good sign and relief, but this just shows that the government in tehran, the theocracy, this is a thug-ocracy. they look for opportunities where they can get it and no moral scruples.

if there's anything good coming out of it, finally get the biden administration to abandon its extremely ill-advised effort to revive the terrible 2015 deal with iran. we should not be giving iran billions in aid to spend on weapons and destabilize the region. gillian: fred, thank you. >> good to be here. alicia: thanks, gillian. after years of covid restrictions thousands of revellers are set to ring in the new year in times square tonight. live pictures courtesy of earth cam. we'll get the details next. it's a storm that crashes, and consumes, replacing thought with worry. but one thing can calm uncertainty. an answer. uncovered through exploration, teamwork, and innovation. an answer that leads to even more answers. mayo clinic. you know where to go.

♪ >> new year's eve revellers are already gathering in times square for tonight's celebration. officials estimate a million people may be in attendance and officers are in the streets to make sure that it goes smoothly. alexis adams is out there. how is it shaping up out there? >> hi, happy new years to you. the people are in times square and weather is holding out even though we could see some spotty showers. it's not dampening the mood. security is top of mind.

>> we will have full deployment of k-9 teams, heavy weapons teams and radiation detection teams and boats, and we'll have the bomb squad present. >> and for days, crews have really been working hard to set this all up. it's a massive new year's eve event, one of the biggest in the world. big crowds are expected, the first time since the covid pandemic there are no restrictions for the new year's eve event in times square. starting at 6:00 tonight that ball will be placed on top of the pole at one times square, that will take 60 seconds from people from around the world are here in new york city to count down to midnight. there will be increased security presence in times square. we're talking federal, local and state resources working together to make sure that everyone out here is safe. so expect major street closures as well and more than half dozen screenings and entry points for guests. >> but the goal of public

safety is both seen and intentional, unseen. and the n.y.p.d. manpower, other local public safety apparatus, they're going to have a visible presence, but at the same time they're going to be among the crowds so that people don't know exactly who is present and who is here. >> and check it out over my shoulder in times square, you can see the big crowds of people trickling in right now. they've been here for hours and wait in line and there are no bathrooms here and people have to be invested to come out here and celebrate for times square new year's eve. it's expected to be slammed tonight and with some of the rain, you can't bring in backpacks and can't bring in umbrellas and a few other items. alicia: no bathrooms, that's enough for me. i'll watch on tv. alexis mcadams. thank you so much. we'll be right back. together we support immune function. supply fuel for immune cells

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ after the horrific murder for college students in moscow, hope cap to the nation's attention please have a suspect in custody. brian christopher kohberger arrested early yesterday in a rural pennsylvania town but welcome to fox news live i am pope emeritus benedict xvi. >> i'm gillian turner. jen what is said to be in front of a judge for an extradition hearing tuesday we have fox team coverage. tt