>> rich: a fox news alert, disturbing new information about the suspect in the murders of four college students in idaho, and it comes out of his court appearance tomorrow. hello, everyone come and welcome back to "fox news live." i'm rich edson. >> molly: and i'm molly line. his lawyer said he will waive extradition tomorrow at a court hearing in pennsylvania. the criminology grad student was arrested in scranton on friday and he reportedly went to great lengths to avoid getting caught, even wearing gloves in public since the killings to hide his fingerprints. there also reports that he stalked his victims for a week before the stabbing spree in november.

investigators have not yet uncovered the murder weapon and the motive is unknown at this point. here is dr. michael baden, famed forensic pathologist and fox news contributor. >> what caused him to pick these people out? he had this bizarre research report from the college in pennsylvania that he was doing, interviewing criminals as to why they killed people and how they feel. so there are a lot of potential red flags for motives. >> rich: we have dan springer live in moscow, idaho. dan? >> rich, his public defender, as you said, indicated that he was going to waive his extradition at that hearing scheduled in pennsylvania tomorrow because he was eager to be exonerated. if he does that, as we expect he will, he could be back in the state of idaho as early as tomorrow night and then perhaps in front of a latah county judge as early as wednesday. that's when he would be

officially charged with those four counts of murder. he was arrested friday morning at his parents house in eastern pennsylvania. he was at the home since mid-december after driving more than 2,000 miles from pullman, washington, with his father, and they were reportedly in kohberger's white hyundai elantra. the police were looking for that make and model carson's early on, and they asked for the public's help on december 7th. they got a lot of tips and help and i we know his car was still in the area for several weeks after the murders likely parked outside his pullman apartment less than 10 miles from the murder scene. police searched his apartment and his office at the washington state university where he is a phd student and a teaching assistant in the criminology department. a student in one of his classes told "the new york times" he was a tough grader until the time of the murders. he was described by others as intelligent, very interested in the psychology of criminals, and

awkward, especially toward women. a classmate of his told news nation he saw some changes in him and the mid-november area. >> looking back following the homicides in moscow, idaho, i did notice that he was coming to class a little late sometimes. he always had a coffee in hand, he always seemed to be perpetually exhausted. most of that come as a graduate student, that is not unusual. >> it seems like most of the people who knew kohberger well are back in pennsylvania. he spent most of his 20 years they are, in fact, he only came out to the pacific northwest in august to start that phd program. we don't know yet if his parents will come out here. they put out the statement saying they are supporting him but also cooperating with police. we will see if they join him out here when he's expected to arrive either tomorrow or perhaps wednesday. >> dan springer, thank you. we will have much more on this case just minutes from now and

former fbi agent special agent jonathan gilliam joins us. molly? >> molly: all right, republicans officially take control of the house just a few hours from now, but the bitter fight over kevin mccarthy becoming speaker could cast a cloud over the g.o.p. celebration. as of now, there are enough votes against current minority leader mccarthy's bid for speakership to keep them out of the state he just spent years waiting for this chance to seize. complete coverage of jason chaffetz and richard fowler. coming up, they will discuss, but first, fox news senior congressional correspondent chad pergram is live from capitol hill keeping an eye on all of this as history is about to unfold. chad, to you. >> molly, the house can't do anything until it elects a speaker. there are at least five republicans and maybe more who oppose kevin mccarthy. mccarthy can only lose four votes. one opponent is bob good of

virginia. >> what we will do is we will block kevin. i suspect there will be 10-15 members who will vote against him on the first ballot tomorrow, that will vote for andy biggs, but then i think on the second ballot, they will vote for what is a true candidate who will represent the conservative center of the conference and can motivate the base, inspire republicans across the country. >> but it's hard to see how that unnamed candidate could get an outright majority of the entire house, especially if mccarthy's short. more than 80% of all house republican support mccarthy. some mccarthy backers are baffled at the infighting. >> maybe there is some personal animosity. i know there are some policy issues. again, you are not going to find that person in the conference that 218 people are going to unite behind. only bigs ran against mccarthy and the conference race and he lost 188-31. people like jim jordan i think would be great for the conference, but he didn't run.

>> the vote for speaker has not gone to a second ballot in 100 years. the house must continue to vote until it takes a speaker. the process consumed two months in 1856. neither mccarthy supporters no opponents are budging. >> i think every site has to show their flag at some point before they can come together. they could end up really ahead at the end of this, depending how things end up here. but they've got to get a speaker sooner than later. if this goes on too long, i think the republican brand gets damaged and the base gets really demoralized. >> mccarthy agreed to a demand from his opponents last night. they wanted to lower the threshold to hold a no-confidence vote on the speaker. mccarthy agreed, but that is still not enough to satisfy mccarthy detractors. molly? >> molly: a little bit of suspense, chad pergram, watching it all for us.

thank you. >> rich: let's bring our political panel. jason chaffetz, former republican utah congressman, and richard fowler, democratic strategist. both are fox news contributor's. jason, by the way, we got a heads up from the capitol hill team that mccarthy has left the speaker's office and he was asked if he has the votes. he said, "and take away all the excitement?" and he left. that's where we are in all of this. do you think mccarthy has the votes? if not on the first ballot, can he get there? >> nobody really knows. just the announced people are problematic. this is with the founder set it up. you have to stand out and yell at that name, and i don't know. i don't know that kevin mccarthy can do anything else that he has done. he helped raise the most amount of money. i think everybody would say we really like kevin, but he has actually given in to most of every demand that these people have asked for. so i don't know where it's going to go.

ultimately, these people answer not to kevin mccarthy, not to the conference, but to their constituents, and that's the problem and the rub. i don't know if he's able to overcome that. >> how did democrats play that? do they sit back and watch it happen? >> i have to agree with jason chaffetz here. he's a former member, understands the house better than most folks that i know. i think the truth of the matter is there is nothing more that kevin mccarthy can do in this moment to get those votes he necessarily needs. i think for a representative hakeem jeffries, new leader of the democratic party and the house of representatives, what they are going to do is sit back and watch. and they're going to continue voting. it's a very faint possibility, but there will be 214 votes for hakeem jeffries. will it be enough? will kevin mccarthy's votes go below? we have to wait to find out, but it's very clear here that this is going to be a protracted battle that could last mostly tomorrow but for days after that. >> you mentioned it, every

member of congress has the right to vote for whomever they want to in this situation. what do you think the motivation is here? do you think the several republicans opposing mccarthy think they can actually get some policy changes? here is congressman brad wenstrup on all of this just last hour. >> some may have an echo chamber to where this may sound great, to try and take down the speaker. well, that's fine, but i don't think it is what the average republican voter wants to see. let's go with what the overwhelming majority of the members of our conference have said they want, and that is for kevin mccarthy to be the speaker. >> he has said because the republican conference has voted for mccarthy, that's the way he's going to vote. what do you make of what congressman wenstrup had to say? >> first of all, we know more about how you elect miss america then you do the speaker of the house. [laughter] the idea that this is done in such darkness on both sides of the aisle, but the process is so

opaque, you don't really see it. we are suddenly coming up, though it was the debate? what policies are there? why aren't we watching this play out? again, i have long advocated that how you do this process is wrong. usually it just goes to the person who raises the most amount of money. i happen to think that's wrong. i've been advocating that we change this for a long time. nevertheless, here we are right now today, and again, this goes on. as richard says, i think most people are anticipating democrats get their popcorn, and bring their water bottle, because ill be sitting here watching this show go on for who knows how long. i don't know who ultimately gives in, but c-span is going to be a place that i didn't think most people would watch. but hopefully fox covers a lot of it. it is slow as molasses, too. i don't know. >> rich: is there any table beverage service in the house chamber or did they suspend t

that? [laughter] >> there actually is! the cloakroom better stock up on their bologna because ill be making a lot of sandwiches back there. >> the longer this takes, it comes to a point where he could be speaker in name only. especially the test is a measure on the floor they are trying to debate around, whether or not any member could cause him to vacate. meaning any republican could wake up and say, you know it? we don't need to be a speaker. that triggers an automatic mode which means he is ultimately powerless if he doesn't get this in early ballots. so we'll be sitting back to watch. hopefully it doesn't take all week. >> because we are all inpatient come a time to move on to 2024, i guess a year from now. does president biden run, and should he run? >> i don't think he has the cognitive capability of doing

it. you know, i think democrats are going to say he seems to be a winning formula. unless republicans put forward a powerful agenda and then figure out how to play the game the democrats are playing with early voting, ballot harvesting, these types of behind the scenes then republicans -- it can't go anywhere. they have to figure out those things and then put up a viable candidate. i think the issues are on the republican side -- i don't know, i don't think joe biden has the gas and the energy to go on. i think he struggles to get through january. but i don't think he has the energy to run again for another term. >> that the republican take. richard, to you. does he, should he? >> i agree with a lot of what jason said regarding republicans and where they sit in this moment. if you were to talk to former presidents trump or obama, they would have killed for the bipartisan record of accomplishments that joe biden

has, which is likely what he will run on. i think the largest application for joe biden in this moment is his age. he was five years younger or tenuous anger, we wouldn't be having the conversation of whether or not or if he's going to run again. it's everything to do with the fact that he's older. with that being said, this legislative record, let it be the infrastructure bill, whether it be the bill assisting veterans with burn pits, whether it be that citizens across this country will never have to pay more than $35 a month on insulin, these are all wins under the president's belt that he could go himself to the american people. the question remains, will he decide to run or not? that's what we are waiting for. >> richard fowler, jason chaffetz, fellas, thanks for joining me and happy new year. >> rich: molly? >> molly: fox news alert, this is an unusual situation breaking right now. this is florida and one that is certain to add to some headaches of the thousands of travelers over this holiday season.

airport after airport down there in the sunshine state right now at a standstill. very few planes getting in or out, and it's because of the sheer number of jets going in and out of the state right now as so many people are racing to get home after this last day for holiday travel. those who are lucky enough are facing delays, some of them hours long, just some of the affected cities: orlando, tampa, st. pete, jacksonville, fort myers, even the private jet airports in miami. we have seen so much of these travel challenges in a new meaning to "a wing and a prayer." i have a flight today. i've got more than my fingers crossed. >> rich: what a mess, and from the top of the seat to the bottom of it. jeez. this is new year's day observed. what a mess, will be on it. >> molly: some people have to go to florida. can they get out of florida? >> rich: we are learning more about the man charged in the new year's eve attack new

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♪ ♪ >> rich: police charge the suspect accused of attacking three new york police officers on new year's eve near times square, with multiple counts of attempted murder and assault. they say he used a large machete-style knife and a high-level police source tells fox news the fbi counterterrorism task force was watching him. we have complete coverage with joe gamaldi standing by with life reaction, but first we go to david spunt. how long was he on their radar? >> reportedly for a few weeks. he was in custody charged with attempted murder after authorities say he attacked three police officers, stabbing two. his name is trevor bickford, 19 years old from near portland, maine. according to the fbi, he was being monitored by the counterterrorism task force for islamic extremist ties. they say bickford initiated the attack just about eight blocks

from times square times square on new year's eve. this was at a security checkpoint during celebration time. police say he pulled out a machete-style knife, started swinging, those three officers injured, two sent to the hospital after being stabbed. bickford was sent to the hospital after an officer shot him in the shoulder. >> it just goes to show you, if it's not the first day, it could be your last day. the actions police officers must take every day are life-threatening situations. >> yesterday investigators visited bickford's family in wells main near portland, the southern part of maine. neighbor say they were surprised to hear about this. listen. >> it's hard to believe, i was just shocked. it's a very small community, and you think, did this really just happen here? >> this is insane. i'm blown away to think so close to home that someone would go all the way to new york and

commit these crimes. speak to dumb academics to go the good news come all the officers are expected to make a full recovery. the investigation continues to see if police will officially classify this as an act of terrorism. it may sound like it on paper, but there's a lot of technicalities involved. >> david spunt live in d.c. thank you. molly? >> molly: for more on this let's bring in joe gamaldi, the national vice president of the fraternal order of police. thank you for joining us in kicking off the year. a challenging topic, of course, but we just heard from some of the residents in that little town of wells, maine. this is beaches and lobster rolls and rural beautiful maine, 11,000 people live there. understandably surprised this could happen in their community. what does this mean that the suspect? what does this tell us? >> i'll tell you this, we're certainly thankful these officers are safe. after being nearly hacked to

death with a machete. this has all the makings of a coordinate a terrorist attack on these police officers and he goes to show that anyone can be radicalized just like this individual was. we need to have answers to some of these questions about how long the fbi knew he was a problem and how long they were tracking him, why it was allowed to get to this point. i think this is really a combination of the bloody year that law enforcement experienced. we saw 330 police officers shot this year, nearly 90 ambush attacks on police officers, and whether people want or like to admit it, there was a war on cops in this country. i think the most frustrating part for the 800,000 police officers across this country is there has not been a peep from the white house on this terrorist attack by the massive bloodshed we have seen of law enforcement this past year. the silence from our leaders in this country is deafening. >> you touched on a lot of things they are, from the fbi having the suspect on the radar to -- you use the word "coordinated." the better tracking of people when they are on the fbi's

radar, this is new york city councilman joe borelli who did way in. >> if someone is under suspicion of terrorism, that's a good reason for them to follow someone. when does the radar screen turned into scrambling the fighter jets? is it when they go to a mass event on a significant holiday? that should have triggered some sort of intervention, i would hope. i think the public would help, too, that we are tracking these people with the purpose of preventing these incidents. >> and family members had brought attention to what they are seeing with this individual, as well. your thoughts? >> i certainly think we need to be very vigilant in how we track these individuals and also keep track of what purchases they may be making, and what active actions they are taking. he's traveling to new york city on new year's eve. we have reports from family members that he may have been radicalized. these are warning signs we need to be aware of and law enforcement and we need to interject and stop this individual before it gets to this point. we are just lucky he didn't kill three police officers and that thankfully they are going make a

full recovery. now our only hope is that the justice department is going to do its job in this case, because we know you new york is a revolving door for criminals. we want to make sure this dirtbag doesn't get out of jail. >> molly: shifting gears a little bit, illinois has become the first state to do away with cash bail starting january 1st. a judge effectively putting a pause on that in some of the counties because of a lawsuit, not including chicago, though. this has gotten a lot of controversy. people think this could essentially work, because the nikko to a dangerousness hearing or a detention hearing that replaces cashel's bail. your thoughts on the actions being taken out there in illinois >> i think they are being disingenuous when they caught the safety act when it sure isn't going to make anybody safer. wherever they have eliminated cash bail or did baylor farm, it's been an unmitigated disaster. look no further, right in the backyard in cook county and chicago.

they instituted baylor farm and a study said 50% of people re-offended on violent crime while they were out. and this is a 48% increase in murders over the past years. it's to push these revolving are policies where we are in the middle of a crime. the stupidity of this boggles the mind, and it really shows you that politicians don't care about victims, they don't care about business owners, or the law-abiding people in their communities. >> molly: joe gamaldi, thank you for talking to us. you are you are rapid-fire and you always get a lot in. we appreciate it. happy new year. >> thank you, happy new year. >> molly: rich? >> rich: at least a people have died in tennessee due to weather conditions. will nunley coming to break down the recent damage. in ukraine strikes russian soldiers and one of the deadliest attacks in russia since the start of the war. the former lieutenant colonel daniel davis joined us next. ♪ ♪ what makes every stearns & foster so incredibly comfortable?

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>> molly: the disgrace and now dethroned king, sam bankman fried, faces a judge tomorrow. he's expected to plead not guilty after the epic collapse of his company which he is accused running right into the ground, taking millions of his investors' money and blowing it. big news day tomorrow. a lot going on. >> rich: starting with what happened to $8 billion. >> molly: you think we will find that out tomorrow? [laughs] the very start. >> rich: god, what a mess. that and everything in d.c. >> molly: d.c. is going be wild. >> rich: ukrainian rockets striking a building in an unoccupied city yesterday. 63 service members killed in the strikes making is one of the deadly strikes on russian forces since the war began. he to break it down is former lieutenant colonel daniel davis come before we go to nate foy

live in kyiv with more. >> hey, rich. we have seen attacks from both sides here in the past few days. of course three straight days of russian air strikes here in the capital of kyiv. he mentioned the most deadly attack is coming from the ukrainians in the country's east, one of the russian occupied territories. take a look at this video of the aftermath. russia says the number is 63 service members who were killed in the strike. ukraine says it could be as many as 400 who were hurt or killed in the strike. russia's defense ministry says ukraine use the u.s.-provided rocket system. listen to this. intermec the kyiv regime struck with u.s.-made rocket launchers and a temporary deployment point of one of the units of the russian armed forces near the settlement in the peoples are public. russian air defense systems shut down two high mars missiles. >> this comes after a second

straight night of russian drone attacks. to hear the air raid sirens here. russian new-wave last night hitting critical infrastructure here in kyiv which has led to power shortages today. despite the damage, ukraine says they shut down all 41 drones last night and all 45 drones the night before, just minutes after the clock struck midnight into the new year. this comes after a significant missile strike on new year's eve, over 20 missiles rain down on ukraine on saturday afternoon. we now know at least two women have been killed as a result of that strike. dozens more are injured. he said after the strike that russia wasn't even going after energy infrastructure in that attack, only civilian targets. back here lives we are learning of a ukrainian drone strike within russia where they hit an electricity facility knocking out power for period of 12 hours, but power has since been restored. we will send it back to you, rich. >> rich: nate foy live in

kyiv, thank you. molly? >> molly: for more on the strikes him as senior fellow for defense priorities, daniel davis, here to discuss. thank you so much for your insight as we are beginning a new year. i think i just want to start there. here we are heading into 2023. what can we expect to see on the ground and ukraine as we continue to see both sides and not seeming to back off in any way? >> you know, there is really no doubt. no one is even thinking about talking about negotiating settlements. in fact, you have both sides saying they will negotiate as long as you surrender. and of course neither side is going to do that. both sides think that they have what it takes going into the new year to win this on the ground and both sides are going to try. unfortunately that means the people of ukraine are going to lose regardless of how this comes out, because it is a lot of fighting about to come down. you can see that putin has admitted to having about 150,000 additional troops in the process of being trained up on their

side of the border, and probably getting ready to be employed here. and you actually have the ukrainians general staff as well as the president saying they expect the same thing. we believe the fighting is going to go and get pretty intense, particularly with just a matter of weeks as the weather starts to get colder over there, and just a couple of days ago, almost no matter how the winter battles go, this war is probably not going to end anytime soon. it's probably not, at least through half of june 23. i think there's a lot of dark days ahead for people of ukr ukraine. >> volodymyr zelenskyy has talked at russia using winter as part of their battle come as a weapon, in a sense. in recent days, in the past week or so, russia has seen a significant number of casualties. the numbers are a little unclear come each side making different claims as to those numbers. how does that play on russian soil? because each of those numbers

represents a family that has lost someone. here you are talking about a winter offensive that is about to be a big offensive, which potentially could certainly lead to more losses on both sides, but in russia. when did the people step up and say they will put an end to t this? >> unfortunately that's not going to happen. you can see a number of very critical polling sources show that putin's priorities are still remaining in the upper 70s to low 80s because people believe in him. the reason they do is because russia has been very successful characterizing this not as a choice for putin as we do, but how it was foisted on him by nato expansion and the fact that come in their view, it's basically all of western europe against them. the world against us, so they are drawing together and using lots of imagery from their great patriotic war, world war ii, and now it's our turn to make sacrifices and everything is against us.

our way of life. right now that's working in russia. the people do seem to be behind this, and i think it's going to depend on what happens in the first quarter of 2023. if they have success, i think the people in russia will get even more behind it. if it fails, if they don't succeed, then you have to see problems with the population, and that's what we are going be watching for. >> molly: the united states has reaffirmed a commitment to continuing to help ukraine. they talked about the success of high marks in recent days. your thoughts on how the u.s. is contributing and how vital that is? >> there's no question about it. if it hadn't been for the united states specifically in leadership we played, in all probability russia would have won, because it is the millions of artillery shells, the tens of thousands of antiaircraft missiles and antitank missiles we provided, keeping him afloat. the problem is that russia

always has its own arsenal, in fact, they have their own domestic production. as we have been hearing claims that russia is running out of missiles all the way back to march, they never do. they continue to have this relentless onslaught. it's going to be a matter of attrition as to who can sustain the loss is the best, and right now that's an open question. we don't know. but it comes back to so much harm being caused to the people of ukraine. >> shifting to north korea, kim jong un kicking off with another w missile weapons test. he expands the nuclear arsenal there, continuing to work toward more intercontinental ballistic missiles. your thoughts on what america can do to rein in north korea at this point? >> the most important thing to understand off the bat is that our security is assured no matter what. we are safe, because it is not likely that kim jong un is going to use this and suddenly go on an offensive attack and attack

the united states. to do so would be suicidal. that's one of the things important for us to convey to them, to pyongyang, that our commitment to our treaty ally in south korea is rock-solid, that includes conventional and nuclear forces. he crosses any of those lines, he can count on a destructive response. but if he doesn't, we need to try and lower the tensions, use diplomacy to give him any kind of an off-ramp, and a reason not to be so fearful that he will get attacked and that he expands this and maybe offer some other potential economic incentives, develop mental incentives with his south korea partners or his countrymen, anything to lower the tensions, because any kind of use of military force would be bad for us, that for south korea, and bad for the region. >> molly: daniel davis, thank you so much for giving us your take as we begin a new year. appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> rich: a fox news alert nearly two months after four college students brutally murdered in idaho.

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hearing in pennsylvania. his attorney says bryan kohberger is eager to be exonerated while his parents are standing by him. meantime, there is no word on motive and investigators haven't found the murder weapon yet. all this as a cleanup crew just recently deployed to the crime scene that is now being called off. for more on the investigation, let's bring in jonathan gilliam, a former fbi agent, special agent. thanks for joining us. here's a reminder on what we do know about the suspect thus far. it is brian christopher kohberger, 28 years old, arrested by state police and fbi in scranton, pennsylvania, at 3:00 in the morning on friday. he's a phd student in criminology at washington state university and appeared in court friday awaiting extradition. so, jonathan, what are investigators doing right now? there is no murder weapon, there's no motive established yet. what are the next steps for police in idaho?

>> i think what's going to occur is now you have the prosecution setting up a case. so the prosecution while on the case, but the start saying we need this or that thing in particular. that will start to become a little more integral in the case. at the same time, they are still trying to figure out the breadth and scope of this entire case. i think pennsylvania, in his actions that i've seen reported in some stories by a particular fire where he used to go in, some of the patrons describe the picture of a person that i think is going to come into play here. machiavellian, narcissistic, and psychopathic. you start to see traits of these in the way that he was. also, the way that he was with his parents. law enforcement is hopeful -- they are not just doing your rudimentary homicide

investigation. hopefully they will realize this case is bigger than just idaho. i believe that we are looking at somebody who could potentially be a serial killer if what i am perceiving is actually the case with his personality. >> do we know or have any sense of where else he may have been, and what other evidence there is out there that could be against him in this picture? conceivably he's going to be to trial. >> well, all the new ways that we collect evidence over the years, especially with the cell phone information, is already playing a part. i don't know where these reports are coming from. i can't validate them but i have seen them reported, that they figured out he was stocking these women a couple of weeks before in this house. if that is in fact the case, i don't know why that was released to the public, but if that's the

case, and they were probably able to gain that from cell phone technology and cameras throughout the location. i think the knife could potentially come into play but they don't need it for prosecution. i would say that knife is a trophy item, just like if a painter had a paint brush that they painted their masterpiece with, or a law enforcement officer that retires and wants to keep his badge. i see this knife as something that is almost magical for him and could potentially be at the home or around the home in pennsylvania. i also want to say this, i find this very strange, that his father who had already a predetermined trip to go to washington to drive back with him across country, we knew already in the beginning of december that a white hyundai elantra was a car of suspicion. yet the father flew out there

with 15 minutes from where the attacks happen, and got into a white hunting launcher with his son and was 60 minutes away from the attack and drove 1500 miles with him and took it to a car repair shop. i can't believe that a pair and/or anyone in this country did not realize that law enforcement was looking for that car. >> rich: still waiting for more to come from the police. his defense attorney says he should be presumed innocent until otherwise proven and not tried in the court of public opinion. thank you, jonathan gilliam, for joining us this afternoon. very much appreciated. >> molly: he raises a great point about the car. have you been watching the news in november and december? especially in december when they release that they were looking for this white hyundai elantra come everyone across the country even remotely aware of this case thought about where that car could be. >> rich: if you remember, we had several weeks where there was nothing coming from the

police department. the one thing we had heard of was that white hyundai elantra. >> molly: the investigator talks about the father, but i'm just curious about kohberger himself. he knew he had a hyundai elantra. neighbors at the complex, maybe someday made the call. perhaps we'll find out. a deadly winter storm slamming seven states, knocking out power and damaging water systems. police in tennessee are prepping for tornadoes. that's a live report coming up from fox weather, next. ♪ ♪ -well, i'm not 100% sold yet. -okay, have you considered -- it's fine, flo. she's not interested. i get it. not everyone wants to save money. -what's she doing? -i don't know. renters and homeowners can bundle and save. for what? a trip to bora bora? bora boring. okay, you know what? i'm in. she's all yours. want some tacos? -eh, i'm not really in the mood. -yeah, you're right. so messy, all the napkins, those different toppings. -actually, i'm in. -yeah, you are. >> tech: when you have auto glass damage, trust safelite.

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>> tennessee officials say extreme weather killed at least eight people freezing rain and frigid cold temperatures have stretched from maine to seattle knocking out power in georgia, texas, north carolina and tennessee. that's where we find fox weather reporter will nunley. he's live in nashville. bring us up to speed on what's happening down there. >> no sooner did we climb out of the deadly freezing weather, now we have another storm system on our door step. any time you see someone walking around nashville, tennessee in short leaves, that's a sign of things to come. we have the first tornado watch of 2023 issued for portions of arkansas, texas and looets. we want folks living in this

area to pay special attention. the next 48 hours. the big concern is so much of this tornadic activity could occur at night. not only the notifications on your fox weather app but a secondary source as well. long track powerful tornadoes are on the table. again, to reit late, we're talking about mississippi, texas, arkansas, louisiana and portions of tennessee as well. keep in mind, molly, so many areas are trying to get the water back on. you have entire municipal systems that lost water during the freezing temperatures. homeowners spending the holiday weekend getting their pipes fixed. there's weather fatigue out there. we need people to stay alert the next 24 to 48 hours. we'll be walking through. >> thanks, will. for continuing coverage, turn to

fox weather by downloading the app at foxweather. come. this is a very easy to use app. >> and a fox weather alert on a snow-related accident involving actor jeremy renner. he's hospitalized in stable condition. he was hurt while plowing snow in reno, nevada. the 51-year-old is a two-time oscar nominee. he more recently starred as hawkeye, the sharp-shooting member of the hero squad. >> so talented. love him. he's such a great actor. as you mentioned, healing thoughts to him. he's young, he's strong. hopefully he will get back soon.

heart breaking details from the southern border where a humanitarian crisis is unle toing. chad weather with his thoughts on this next.

>> a final slap in the face to

holiday travelers. this time courtesy florida. thousands of flyers that were facing hours and hours of delays even if they are not flying southwest. that log jam of jets going out of florida on the last day of holiday travel has the faa delaying flights on the ground. looks like the new year, the same as the last year when it comes to frustration and flying. we're live with the breaking news ahead as we enter a third house of fox live coverage. >> danger and distress. that's what migrants are facing every step of the way on their journey to the southern border. a harrowing report highlights the worsening trauma of migrants even before they reach the united states. that is where we begin in this hour, hour number 3 of fox news live. i'm molly line. >> i'm rich edson. with the resources strained, a