mood on this new years. not all is lost. wonderful people making this still the greatest country there is. we will be back tomorrow night and every weeknight, 8:00 p.m. have the best night with the ones you love. >> welcome to the special edition of hannity. happy new year. going to highlight our best -- from the past few months. spoke to dr. phil about the out-of-control cancel culture. >> as we have documented night after night, censorship, silencing, boycotting cancel culture, it's all becoming all too common within our political social media

discourse day today. not all of this was -- -- >> nowadays, you better watch what you say. there's always someone in person or online who can tell you that you can't say that, it's problematic. there are so many words and phrases off-limits. it's hard to keep off track. some say peanut gallery is classist and racist. first world problems is also classist. tone-deaf is in ablest. mom and dad assumes traditional gender roles. there's always something that seems to be a new word. >> syndicated talk show host is with us now to explain -- good

to be with you. >> good to talk to you. >> all of my career, never called for -- a host to be fired. i believe in something called freedom. we can't make people watch our shows or listen to my radio s show. i believe in freedom. but that's not the prevailing view. >> sadly, it's not. always thought we went to the universities to hear other people's ideas. not necessarily agree with them, but learned something about what i had to say. now, we see surveys that tell us anywhere from 50-30%. students think it's okay to yell down two oh speaker that you don't agree with. i think that we are just getting to a point where we are in a bubble. we don't want to talk to anyone

who doesn't agree with our thinking. when someone says something that is offensive to our sensibilities, people go on the attack. they may choose a wrong word. instead of maybe messaging them in some way saying "you may not know it, but that could be offensive to someone." instead, they start bombarding them with boycott messages telling them they hope they die, i'm going to slit your throat in the night. >> you are reading my twitter account. [laughter] >> you know exactly what i'm talking about. >> i do. you said something in the open of the show that caught my attention. one day it's okay to say one thing, and the next day apparently it's outlawed. if you say something you are immediately labeled this or that. it is said innocently. you are not designing it to hurt

somebody. >> the mentality has gotten to a point of being a gotcha culture. doesn't really matter to a lot of people if it reflects that person's values and beliefs. as a result, a lot of groups alienate people that in fact our allies, people that infect would support their position or cause. i think that's not smart, it's not good thinking. somebody makes a slip of the tongue, chooses a word that may be is not in vogue at the moment, not on the glossary. they get attacked. you may be building some real allies. a lot of the audience couldn't even guess why the words were there. >> i couldn't guess them either. let me ask you what the result was. this was a controversial show

that you did. what was the end results? what was the audience reaction by the time they got to the end of the hour? >> i'm glad you asked. i moved my audience to the stage as a focus group at this point, everybody. i encourage them to speak. i've seen the results i asked my own it's how many were afraid to speak up and say something in the show. how many of you are afraid to speak up right now. "don't call me, i don't want to say the wrong thing." "not that i feel think or behave

in the wrong way. i just am worried that i will -- and the word police will get over me." >> i think a lot of people feign outrage. they are not outraged. and to grow up. if you feel bad about yourself, read my twitter feed and the comments people make about me, you will feel better about yourself. there's my advice. stop being's -- stop being bleak. >> people -- blindsided up there. that of funds people. i've talked to people. none of them seem to be offended. maybe it's because i haven't talked to enough, but it's other people that seem to be offended on their behalf. i'm not saying there are people that aren't, but i have not talked to them yet. we do not have to have to get offended every time we have the chance to be offended. >> well said. >> i think that's where we

missed the boat. >> dr. phil, congratulations on another great successful year, launching for your show, we appreciate being with us as always. i've also recently spoke with mike rowe about the new season of his fox nation show "how america works." let's take a look. fox business prime is back with new seasons of great prime time shows like "american built" "american dynasty," historic battle for america, and how america works. mike rowe. like last season, he will be taking you behind the scenes for an in-depth look at the people who keep this country running, keep the country great. here is a sneak peek at the first episode of the new season, which focuses on the men and women who keep america's cargo moving. think about life without them, not pretty. >> picking up, little by little, half buckets or quarter buckets.

rolls it into the big pile where i can have full buckets each time. everything is going good right now, going smooth. >> as johnny is about to find out... >> john a. >> -- his troubles with the hopper are not open yet -- could not over yet. >> here with our dominic moore is our friend on the host of "how america works." it airs on fox business network. mike rowe is with us. going back to your days of -- i love how he doesn't even have to talk. really cool. [laughter] you have the only other job i would want in tv with the two shows you have now. the third show you have with us on fox business, "dirty jobs" and "deadliest catch." i love all of it.

i don't think americans truly appreciate what it takes to get those crab legs at a restaurant. i don't think they know what it takes to manufacture something. i don't think we fully understand the impact of what farmers do for us every day, and what ranchers do for us every day, and in this particular case, getting everything packed, moved, off the ships, out to stores. do you think americans appreciate it? >> they are two different things, realization and appreciation. most of us have never really realized it, but we have always intuitively appreciated it. we know that when we flicked the switch and the light comes on, that is a result of a miracle. that's a result of men and women doing things that are out of sight and out of mind. what i worry about is the

overall lack of appreciation that has affected, in my view, our view of a society over the last 30-40 years. my tv shows, the two you mentioned as well as "how america works" are an attempt to tap the country on the shoulder and say "if we do not hang onto this fundamental appreciation for the kinds of jobs that make civilized life possible for us, we are going to have a list of unintended consequences longer than your arm." >> did covid change that in some ways? did we get a greater appreciation for people who work in the medical field -- everybody from doctors, nurses, orderlies, everybody in between? did we get a greater appreciation for truck drivers? if they weren't trucking, packers weren't packing, farmers weren't farming, we wouldn't have survived. i think people have a little bit of an increased appreciation? >> i hate to paint with too brought a rush, but i know i do. i know the zoom world, the conversation we are having right

now. three years ago, that did not happen. i came to new york, i went outside the studio with you. this is made possible by fiberoptics, men driving around at all hours, making sure everything is connected. in a lot of ways, covid gave us a wake-up call. i'm afraid it did something else too -- and i don't want to sound like a broken record -- i was listening to joe concha go down important things that are important to voters. nobody is talking about the 7 million able-bodied men who are not only unemployed today, but who have affirmatively left the workforce. i just spent an hour and a half interviewing a guy, nick eberstadt, brilliant economist, who believes that that statistic, far more so than unemployment numbers and any other metric is the thing that should scare us. that number of able-bodied men combined with the 11 million

jobs currently open, that's never happened in our country before. if we don't fix that, we are on that part of the map where it says "here be dragons," because we don't know what's coming next. >> coming up, highlights from sara carter's reports about biden's border disaster. ♪ ♪

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>> welcome to fox news life. a storm ravaged northern california bracing for another powerful round of storms tonight, flooding new year's eve killed at least one person so far. the heavy rain breached levees which inundated dozens of cars along state route 99. people in one low-lying community were order to leave,

others told to evacuate before the roads were cut off by rising water. "the avengers" star jeremy renner is in critical but stable condition following a snowplow accident. it's not clear how -- not clear how it was occurred, but he was flown to a hospital for treatment. a spokesperson says suffered chest, and has been -- two surgeries so far. the buffalo bills safety damar hamlin collapsed after making a title. act two -- ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> all year, sara carter reported on the bidens administrations out of control border crisis. >> a female in distress. she says you are flying right above her. >> i've got her. >> yes, sir.

>> she's from guatemala, she was abandoned at the top of the mountain. she is terrified. she's crying. she said there were 27 other people with her, said they would come back for her, but they never did. they just abandoned her up on the mountains. all kinds of elements out there. if she had spent the night out there tonight, he would have dropped into the low 30s, who knows if she would have made it. >> the fact that we even found her, that she was even able to make with her phone and that last second -- her phone broke -- that she was even able to make that phone call. >> also -- what smuggling has been doing that they have no regard for the human life. they keep moving on. >> right now, the state of arizona is actually in a battle with the federal government. the governor is trying to sue

the federal government, because the federal government is trying to force the state of arizona to take down the train cars that they are using for these cargo containers to basically create a border in the gaps. >> that's what makes it interesting, because people sometimes don't understand it. we have the immigration problem asylum and getting released. that's a big issue. then you have -- which this area leads the entire country. there is nowhere else more than the port of arizona. when you got narcotics. >> we are seeing a large increase in the united states of unaccompanied minors, children who have no guardians. is that part of trafficking organization's plans, because it's easier to move those children, or it's more money? >> it's all part of that. >> what about people who want to buy a child because they are a

sexual predator? >> i have heard that some people in places have very specific things that they like, certain nationalities, certain age groups. the cartels are looking for the people going around, and then they spot someone, they tend to take them. >> in many cases, they just have the children there, and they have a purpose. only they know what purpose they are going to serve, but yeah, they are going to keep them there, and they are not going to be free ever again. >> when they keep the children, they could use them for anything: drugs or sex, or -- the kids could be abused on the road. >> in most cases, they wanted to sell their organs. >> hard to hear >> it is very hard. sometimes they take out the

organs and fill the body with drugs so they can take it to te border. >> do they sell it -- local buyers? speak with our people with money that want to buy the organs of kids. it's not only for this country. they take it to different countries. they do this with clinics that are not authorized. >> this is worth a lot of money. >> obviously, it's more lucrative for them to just get the child and gain money from each organ they sell. they are always looking for opportunities to gain more money. >> tell me a little bit about what we are standing in front of right now. >> this trailer, there two bodies that were put in this weekend. they are here. they are from mexico. >> did they cross illegally customer >> they were trying to, they were immigrants crossing

illegally. we have seen reports, the increase in death along the river, and along the texas border. coming from mexico. what is going on now that the county can't handle the increase in these deaths? >> it's out of control. right now, i am doing immigration work, county sheriff work, and i feel like i am a funeral director. >> how has the federal government -- have they reached out? has anyone said -- >> no. i have not seen anybody from the federal government asking me for any kind of resources. i never took anything like that from the federal government. >> if you had a message to deliver to president biden or vice president kamala harris, what with the message we? >> to come over here, see what's going on here, see if they are not catching it or not seeing it, what's happening here.

>> so lieutenant, tell me a little bit what we are doing tonight with this operation. what is hoping to accomplish. >> it's a specialized operation, the texas game wardens, border patrol, also with local law enforcement in this area, texas, working with the sheriff's department, the local police department as well. they have seen an increase in human smuggling, especially an increase in this area being impacted the most in terms of human smuggling, especially smugglers crashing into these fences during high-speed chases. one thing is this is an area that is north of the checkpoint so if there are illegal immigrants that have made it to this area, they have bypassed the checkpoint, so trying to make it further into the interior peak. because of that, you see more human smugglers in this area trying to smuggle illegal immigrants further.

not just in toto texas, but out of the state. >> -- >> they got him. >> you guys got everybody? [inaudible] >> where the other ones? okay. all right. >> we -- chasing them down in these ranches, running through trees, branches, thorns. it's not an easy task, but to get it almost down to what the state and federal government -- but the state is doing and what the federal government is not doing. we are trying to make an impact in these organizations, while the federal government has completely ignored the situation around the border. >> next, my interview with sean

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>> here is part of my interview with academy award-winning actor sean penn about the russian invasion of ukraine. i want to start this interview -- i made a phone call to you. the story interested me. if you were on the set 99 out oy would be in full disagreement. >> no question about that. >> i make the first phone call to you, and i say i'm interested in the work you're doing doing and why you are there even before the war started and this documentary. do you remember what you said to me? >> that i don't trust you. [laughter] a lot of reasons i don't trust

you. my trust and your trust, so many people don't trust their spouse, and yet we have to get on with life. we have a situation -- i have never felt this way about where our country is, or what i experienced emotionally in ukraine, where we all talked about how divisive, how divided things are here, but when you step into a country of such incredible unity, you realize what we've all been missing. i don't think that i've got time to indulge my lack of trust, which becomes a heavy thing, babies that get vaporized. these people are fighting for the aspiration of all of us americans. when we -- we talked about that. we agreed on that, that we have to take their example. >> we will worry about political disagreements, going back -- you are always invited. here's what i want to know. you were there in november of

2021. we aren't even really talking about to the real lead up of this conflict. why were you there originally to do a documentary? was it about ukraine or volodymyr zelenskyy -- that interested you? >> i think on the better part of the population, americans -- any understanding of what was ukraine, where was ukraine, with the exception of a phone call between president -- and the fact that president of ukraine was a comedic actor that became the president and -- went in initially to make a documentary, that would bring home a sense of ukraine and a profile of this president. the next when you do, it's this build up of vladimir putin on the eastern side of ukraine. you've got 50,000 troops, then

100,000 troops, military equipment. you are chronicling all of this and that developing relationship. tell us, as this was unfolding, a lot of the world didn't think vladimir putin would do it. i did think he would. >> all the experts i talked to -- most of the experts that were speaking out in united states intelligence agency and others felt that he would. i will tell you that to the last minute. the part of me that wanted to be in denial of what that would mean to ukraine and ultimately to the world. i thought "really? is there an upside to this for him?" what i wasn't really savvy two was i gather -- -- so universally, the experts on this felt this was going to happen. what did not happen, and

therefore, the preemptive sanctions on enough of a dramatic level before he was so deep in humiliation wasn't going to let it stop and you would have the simplicity of negotiations through the east, available to make the bridge from crimea, and now it was going to be this full on assault, and here we are. >> i didn't know a lot about volodymyr zelenskyy like a lot of people until the infamous phone call. i still think there was nothing to that in a separate issue, but he had taken, putin had taken georgia in '08, and next crimea, has shown a willingness to annex/take over land, territorial land missions. so you get there, you are interviewing them at this time. did he see this coming? did he believe this was real? >> interesting. we had met on a zoom call. >> did you trust him?

>> i was interested to see who he was. i didn't have the baggage with him that i have with you. [laughter] >> we have never met before. >> we have -- >> television set? >> a badge of honor in my house. the full screen that i domi dominated. i don't remember. that's a true thing. >> here's what happens. because of covid, once we had gotten the sense that he was very much considering giving us some kind of access and spending some time with us, we were delayed, and we were delayed. then, we wouldn't back, we started in the shooting in november. we went to the front lines, we also were in kyiv, talking to musicians, into the culture. there was this problem going on at the time, the administration -- we couldn't

see it. we came back, and then, this thing really escalated. then, i think we got there roughly a week before the invasion. i met him face-to-face for the first time, and the day before the invasion, then spend time with him in which we documented in the film during the invasion on the day of the invasion. i don't know that there is a person on earth who could know that they were born for such a day, that they could rise to it. when they say -- >> when you say invasion, was this him taking those two regions? >> also rockets coming in. >> this is the airport 15 clicks out. it was game on. so, in him, i saw something i've never seen before in my lif

lifetime. like i said, having seen him, prepared for it. yes, hoping against hope it would not happen. but, a man who had not been challenged yet with it happening. the next day, i saw something that, as -- it's a man, but i drank -- -- it's the face of someone you see in all the ukrainians we saw and talked to, whether they were in or out of uniform. school teachers, even children. this extraordinary courage that has come up. it was in his eyes. it's clear to me that the ukrainians will win this. the question is at what cost? >> as a conservative, forget our political differences, i don't want to see one more dead kid in the street, one more innocent woman or man dead. i don't want to see anymore images in my lifetime of mass graves.

>> there or in chicago. >> anywhere. i don't want to see it and we can fix all these problems if we have the will and desire to. we are the biggest country on earth. i think the ukrainians will win. western europe and america needs to supply them with the weaponry to win. if they do, they will be defeated, in my view, evil in our time. that's following the reagan and trump doctrine, even though you don't care about doctrines. if you invade a sovereign country, you forfeit your right to lead a country, your right to live, meaning vladimir putin has forfeited his right to live. last word. >> i think that what would be most interesting about that conversation is to ask generals, military commanders in russia who have also been sanctioned, whose children won't be coming to the united states further education -- going to england and a lot of other places.

i don't want to invest in the conversation -- that we may have privately about what direct action should happen to a leader who does that, but if there is a god, there will be vengeance beyond all possible comprehensive. >> vengeance -- quoted in a very famous book. good luck with your work. i hope that this war ends soon, and i hope they are victorious, and i hope that flynn report and gets put back in the grave he deserves to be in for doing this. i hope it stops here. we will have to do it -- >> bad answer on the other side. >> you are invited to come back and talk but you will never talk politics with me on the show. >> i think we are in a different time. we all have to figure it out. >> you trust me now more than

you did? >> not going to weigh in on the prudent thing. >> you said "i don't trust you." do you trust me? didn't i keep my word? >> you did. >> why don't you trust me? >> you know what happens is there's a lot of physical therapy necessary after a big car accident. [laughter] can't get it all done in a day. >> our prayers are with the innocent victims with this conflict. i wish you luck. >> and the heroes who are fighting. >> next time we will battle over hugo chavez or something. >> that is an interesting conversation. >> thank you for being with us. and up comedian jimmy salo joins us with his take on biden's blunders and so much more.

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♪ ♪ >> comedian, host of farms across america jimmy thaler recently joined us with his spin on the crazy woke media mob and the stumbling bumbling president joe biden. >> joe biden had a joint press or with the french president emmanuel macron earlier today where they touted their shared vision on far left claimant cultism and of course time for questions. take a look. >> generating division? >> president biden: i will answer the last question. i didn't understand the word. i will answer it. [laughter] no. look: the united states makes no

apology, and i make no apology since i wrote it for the legislation you are talking about. i'm confident. that's my answer. who's the next question? i've got my list here. is it my turn to call on someone? okay. >> keep looking at your screen. during last nights tree tree lighting ceremony, biden was wandering around appearing clueless and confused. a typical day for him with a microphone. that has become par for the course with your president joey. here with moraes comedian, "fox across america" host jimmy thaler. you were great at the fox nation awards. >> thanks for saying that. just the way i wrote it out.

i will give you the 20 bucks later. >> it was $100, but who's counting? >> inflation! hannity shaking me down on the air. >> everything costs more. [laughter] i don't think he knows that today is thursday. we have a president that is so out of it, it's almost a given but he's going to run for reelection, and people are fine with that. i don't think he knows what he's doing on any given day. anytime i see him on the world stage, i feel embarrassed. i wonder what you feel. >> it is sad to watch. right now with the white house, they are having a state dinner for mike rohn. but they are not mentioning is that it is a state of dementia. when you watch that presser -- you know. when you watch that presser -- >> all great humor.

well you're seeing the players on both sides of the field, taking a very emotionally as i'm sure everybody is all the fans. they want to see a good, hard fought game there there kneeling in prayer. it is a very dangerous and violent sport. but you have some of the world's best athletes and there's always that risk. and you know a lot of people. as i looked at it quickly online. they believe this game should be suspended. do you think they

should suspend this game and just offer their prayers and reschedule it for another time. what should they do at this point, if you're the nfl i think it's too much of an onus to put on the players. this is so disturbing and only those training staff and those doctors know what's really going on and whether or not the players have actually been informed. what's going on or what has transpired since he's been taken off the field to a hospital. they're probably very, very, very few people right now who know the circumstance but to ask the players and those coaches now to go continue a game with somebody so desperately, seemingly so desperately from what we can see in peril. um it's not conducive for guys to now go ahead and continue to play. we see broken legs all the time. we see concussions. we see all kinds of injuries and football. jason there's a 100% injury rates. if you get on that field by now, in week week 16 of the nfl season uh, you're hurt. something is hurting you. something is

bothering you. something is debilitating. um what we don't usually see is cpr being performed on a player. it's highly unusual, and it's very sad and let's just let's just hold out hope for the best and see what happened. well we do hope for the best. we hope the recovery is swift and quick and that they can get they can get all that information back out to the fans, mostly to the family and the family of the football family, because i don't i don't think it's fair to try to ask these players on both sides of the field to continue to go at 100 and 10% the way they are with you know how big a game this is to continue on like that? i think everybody needs to step back. take a deep breath. i know the nfl has taken a lot of criticism, but i also know that they've come a long way to make the game safer. they've implemented rules regarding targeting and whatnot, but by everything, at least so far that we've seen in heard this.

this was a clean hit. it's just part of the game. but we don't yet know what other factors may have been involved in this and yet it's still a very scary situation and fans and people and just even non sports fans are really going to care about what's happening here on the field. nobody wants to see anybody suffer and have that sort of anxiety going. but jim, this is, um this is very unfortunate what's going on right now? very unfortunate and unless we know and less when i say we, the public and the players are informed that he's okay then. no, i would say that the game should not continue in the nfl is going to have to make adjustments in their schedule at a time when it's appropriate for this game to continue, but if somebody is this deep of distress and again not going to jump out here and speculate on anything because we don't know the condition and if we if we had the condition to report and i'm sure but the

people who are broadcasting the game on espn in the national football league, and, uh, the bills, and the bengals would come out and let us know or the hospital would let us know so to continue the game right now. at this point, i don't i would think it would be ill advised, and i would be very surprised if they would continue the game until we know that he is okay. and if he's not okay, um then i'm not quite certain to win that word would come down or how that information would get conveyed to the public. well in and again speed of getting that out to the fans is far secondary to making sure that this player and his family are you know his. i can't even imagine what his family is going through the anxiety. they're there for the glory if you will of the nfl, this person plays safety, which is a very difficult position. you're involved in some of the most aggressive hits on the field.

um and so he's been through a lot, but collapse and then have to have cpr administered there on the field. they do have some of the best medical people that can respond very quickly, but still, you can see the reaction of the players. the anxiety that the concern the tears and the prayers that are going out. um just a very difficult scene unfolding tonight for the nfl and the nfl family. very sad and. you know, these players are so well conditioned. they're they're the greatest athletes in the world and they take a pounding. jason um, football is a very, very dangerous sport. and there are violent collisions and if you had the opportunity to review a game live, um television doesn't translate the speed and the collisions and the sense of power that these people hit each other. on every play and again, you know this may this may look like something

cardiovascular that that may not have had anything to do with the hit again. none of us knows his medical history. none of us knows what transpired with him in this moment, and we're going to have to wait and find out just to see just exactly what it is that that that comes forward with that information, but these athletes are in such such fine shape and they are usually tested and retested and you know all of their vital signs. and, um all of their, you know, look, the chemistry of these guys is very, very well known because you don't get out on the field. if you're just not in good shape. if you're if there is something that is wrong with you, it would have been detected through all of these physicals. it's very, very rare, where somebody has some type of condition that has not turned up by the time they've been in the national football league for three years, and so if he had something, yeah, that was that that nobody knew he had that was undetected by the medical community. then you know that will come to light as well. but again, all of this is

just down the road here and we can only hope and pray. uh that, uh he's all right, and that he's able to, uh, get through. get through this very, very difficult moment. jim gray . thank you very much. we're talking about damar hamlin, who is a safety? i was there playing in an nfl game. uh there was a clean hit, clean play. collapsed as cpr as best we can tell, was administered there. he has been since transferred to the hospital, at least one of the unconfirmed reports that i'm seeing says that the referees and the and the head coaches of both teams are are assessing what to do next. the fans and the players are in prayer. and obviously a very emotional situation. well let's go ahead and bring in fox news medical contributor dr marc siegel. dr siegel, as you know anybody who looks at any

who's involved in watching football at any degree knows it's a tough it's a violent sport. but what happened and transpired there on the field may or may not have to do with being hit hard. there could be an underlying condition at this point. we really, really don't know. but what are your thoughts? at this point, dr siegel? jason you and jim gray just hit too few things. first of all, i would stop playing. secondly i would pray. thirdly um, i think there's a possibility that there's an underlying health issue or structural heart issue that we don't know about. but there is an entity known as traumatic cardiac arrest. that can happen to anyone. it's a violent game, but it can have it to anyone. when you're ahead. you can bruise the heart and you could have a heart arrhythmia. now again. i'm not there. i've not examined him. i don't know that this is what happened, but when you see cpr occurring dacian, it means that the heart probably stopped or went into some type of rhythm abnormality

that isn't going to send enough oxygen around. so that's why cpr occurs. sounds like they did it very promptly. they got him to an excellent hospital. i'm very familiar with that hospital, and so there's there is a reasonable chance that he's going to recover. but also , it might not. and so that's why i play needs to be stopped, and in china, everyone's mind and again. this can happen just from a blow to the chest. or it could be something pre existing . it is it is rare, but it can happen. so the buffalo bills are playing at the cincinnati bengals. he's a safety tomorrow . hamlin uh, an exceptional player, one of the most violent positions that there is, um and after this hit, uh, had to have cpr administered. um if there's any good news is that there's doctors that are immediately available there literally a few yards off the field that can

come in and administer the kind of medical help that you might have. but even with that swift response, doctor um it's still a very grave and difficult situation. again jason. you said it exactly right because dpr gives you 30 to 40% of your usual cardiac output. if it's done correctly, physicians, so how to do it? they came there very, very quickly. the whole key is, can you preserve oxygen flow to the brain? can you do that? and how long is this cpr going on? did the heart rhythm recover? you know what? what was he like in the ambulance? what is he like when he gets to the hospital? what actually happened to his heart? that's what we don't know. and again. it isn't. i want to emphasize that from what i saw from the video. it isn't anything unruly that happened or you know, and no blame to be given. it's just that it's a violent sport, and this is what can happen from a heavy hit. it's called traumatic cardiac arrest. well

that's what makes it so difficult because the bengals are playing as hard as they can. the bills are playing as hard as they can. and yet two people collide, which is a normal part of the game, and you feel for that player also, who's who's making the hit because by everything we can tell it was a good clean hit part of the game, but the thoughts and prayers going out to damar hamlin of the buffalo bills a safety for the team, who's an exceptional player. i can only imagine what his family and the greater family of the buffalo bills are going through. but all of us that even we're watching the game. i think our hearts go out to them and the difficult situation, hearts and prayers and thoughts that hopefully the medical expertise can help bring this. this young man back to full health as swiftly as possible. um i really i believe we have outkicked founder clay travis, who's joining us now on the phone, claire. clay, are you

with us? yeah i am. uh unfortunately, given the circumstances, jason obviously not used to coming on to talk about this like a lot of people out there. i mean, this was a really big game for people out there who are not nfl fans bills being goals monday night football. huge game to really excellent franchises. having very good season like a lot of people. i was sitting down watching this game coming right out of the rose bowl. it's a big day for college football and the nfl and, uh, you know, a really exciting start. and then this incident which happens and for those of us who have watched football, uh, for our whole lives are played, coached it. you see players get hurt, but this just what and felt different than what usually happens and so everybody watching it in real time, uh, knew that it was very serious and obviously