hello, colonial penn? >> harris: we begin with this fox news alert. the new congress gaveling in any moment now. it is straight up noon, and that means, because they don't have a speaker of the house yet, everyone goes back to "congressman elect" or "congresswoman-elect." we will watch very closely this hour if the republicans will retain power or let nancy pelosi pick a fill in clerk until they figure out who the speaker will be. the opening session will take off to kill years of an intense

battle over everything from immigration policy to inflation. before it all happens, republicans will first have to elect a new speaker. kevin mccarthy is having big problems with his bid for the position. minutes ago he said he won't drop out, and even though the house could go to a second vote for the first time in a hundred years. wow. on the senate side, mitch mcconnell is poised to make history. before a very different reason. hello. this is "outnumbered." happy new year. i'm harris faulkner here with my cohost, and a leg up on you. also joining us today, kennedy, dr. janette nesheiwat, and bill hemmer. watch out! at least 14 members of kevin mccarthy's own political party say they have doubts of whether they are going to support him for speaker. five of those are firm nos at this point. with the g.o.p. holding the slimmest of majorities already in the house, kevin mccarthy can only afford to lose four votes.

so he's already upside down right now. if he can't marshal support, the house will have to vote again. a new candidate could emerge, he or she would not even have to be a member of congress, so maybe a surprise candidate. we don't know. we will cover it as it happens. until the house elect a speaker, as i said, it will remain gridlocked. it can't even swear in members or conduct any legislative business. kevin mccarthy still refuses to give up on his bid for speaker. >> are you going to stay in the race, leader mccarthy? >> yes. i'm not going anywhere. we did have an intense conference. there's times will have to argue with our own members if they are looking only for positions for themselves, not for the country. i will always fight to put the american people first, not a few individuals who want to think for themselves. so we may have a battle on the floor, but the battle is where the conference in the country, and that's fine with me. >> harris: so, my cohost, i have missed you! what in the world are we looking at?

a situation where we have more than one vote to get a speaker, do you think? >> emily: potentially. i think what is interesting is the bird's eye view looking into this, what is best for the party and therefore what is best for the country is more of a cohesiveness and we are seeing here. there's more warning signals and alarm being sent to that say you are actually not advancing the goals of the party by trying to sabotage -- they are words, not mine -- what's going on that with mccarthy. for example, "the new york post" editorial board wrote a scathing review to the freedom caucus morning parade what is your plan now? their side of you. instead of saying we've been denied power for the past two years, finally we have it, let's get to work, let's put aside our three requests and instead assure mccarthy's and that leadership position so we can start assembling legislation and start these investigations, they say let's have more breathing room for the party, because that's what advances the ball so much further. what's interesting is the outside chatter.

i understand, but we don't yet have that position where we have the luxury to fight over this minutia. >> harris: that's a really good point. >> emily: the shield is more important right now than those yard by yard advancements. >> harris: is a luxury, that you've got to have it first. can you imagine what happens if nancy pelosi has to appoint a democratic clerk while they work this out? >> bill: margins matter, harris. if you go back to the midterms, we had republicans in some cases as many as 246 seats. had they done that, this wouldn't even be an issue today with kevin mccarthy. they actually underperformed at the lowest margin within our own power ranking. they hit the numbers. >> harris: joe biden says it's because of him. his policies. he takes credit for how republicans didn't have a red waves. >> bill: if i were joe biden, i do the same thing. but in this case, for kevin mccarthy, it doesn't appear right now that he has the votes. just this morning -- i don't know he saw scott perry, the

republican from pennsylvania, he was on "fox & friends" and he just lit it up. by the way, he was not one of those five in question. he's in a different basket. mccarthy over the weekend has tried to cut some deals with these lawmakers, but it seems that even those concessions that he is offered has not been enough to persuade them. >> harris: well, no, because they realize they can get more, and they're up against the wall. when you talk about that you're only going to need five votes to take a speaker out, that's making history right there. kevin mccarthy has capitulated on that point for the far right in his party, and now they want more. of course they do. >> kennedy: yes, but what they also want is they want for the potential speaker to acknowledge that the status quo is not enough, and that is what voters said was supposed to be a red wave, a red tsunami. it wasn't. joe biden is over here, the house is on fire, and he's

lighting a cigar. congratulating himself, when the country is on a pathway to hell. >> harris: but he got what he wanted. >> kennedy: because every voter hates everyone in congress, they hate everyone in power, and i think some of these people, the minority republicans, are saying the status quo is not enough. we have to do something different. it can't be whatever we've done before, because that hasn't worked. remember, kevin mccarthy could have been speaker before, and he withdrew before the vote. so i think he is already damaged goods to a lot of people in the party. they want the republican party to stand for the american people and to stand for something different than what they've already been doing. >> harris: you know what? you put the argument much like bob goodman, republican out of virginia, congressman -- did i not say it right? >> bill: that's right. >> harris: to me it's about having an argument there could be more, having a difference, all of that. isn't that kind of what the left

it with nancy pelosi when tim ryan ran against her? so -- >> kennedy: they are not running from the middle of the party, they are running to make the country better, to make government smaller, which -- >> harris: i know a doctor probably can't fix it. >> dr. nesheiwat: we can try. but the chaos, the uncertainty, it is definitely unsettling. at the end of the day, what do americans want? we want to see our leaders unified. we want to see them come together and fight for the rights of their constituents. and what is that? the gas prices, crime, the cost of living, inflation. instead we are seeing these five holdouts, the stubborn republicans who don't look at the big picture and what's best for not only their party, but for americans, and for their constituents. no one is perfect, but look what mccarthy has done, both in 2020 and 2022 he gained seats for the house come he's unveiled his commitment to america, he

has given concessions. i believe also the motion to vacate, as well. nobody is perfect, but we have to look at the big picture and not hold out on what the republicans need to do, start their investigations on afghanistan, start the investigations on the origins of covid. the fbi files, the twitter files. there is so much work that needs to be done, and even they can't get sworn in. my brother-in-law is supposed to get sworn in today and i can't even congratulate him. >> harris: well, you can come he's just congressman-elect again as of eight and a half minutes ago. before we move forward on this, this vote today, when they take this vote, however this shakes out, if we get to a second vote, is that better or worse? >> bill: not sure, because we haven't been there in 100 years. newt gingrich was talking about kevin mccarthy or chaos. can you imagine if mccarthy ever gets the job? it appears as if this is a majority in the house that is going to be full of surprises at every turn.

if you are talking about making the country better, perry this morning was talking about a vote on a balanced budget, on the texas bar to plan, term limits, individual earmarks, et cetera, et cetera. i think a lot of republicans agree with all those principles. why they couldn't get a deal defies me at the moment. >> harris: the congressmen, who i didn't know you to was your brother-in-law, told me the last hour that the first thing they want to get done is wipe the billion dollars for those 87,000 irs agents, which was part of the faux inflation reduction act. so there is some immediacy where you can find an agreement. it's amazing that maybe that will not happen or maybe it will today. >> dr. nesheiwat: especially with the omnibus not giving resources to the border control agents, rather than processing. >> harris: all right, we will move on. you can see i'm kind of fired up about this sort of thing. coming up, it was a moment that really brought us together, millions of us watching. even across the world, shocked,

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>> emily: buffalo bills safety damar hamlin is in critical condition. his vitals are thankfully back to normal. he collapsed and suffered cardiac arrest on the field after a collision during the first quarter of last night's game against the cincinnati bengals. medical staff quickly raced onto the field and started performing cpr right away. his teammates were by his side, and minutes later an ambulance arrived. medics used an automatic defibrillator, working on the 24-year-olds for nearly 10 minutes before restoring his

heartbeat. the nfl postpone the game. all the drama unfolded before millions of viewers of "monday night football." fans, players, and coaches were visibly distraught, heads in their hands, breaking down in tears. here you see his teammate, ed oliveira, tears streaming down his face. his mother was in attendance at last night's game and when medical staff loaded him onto the ambulance, she reportedly rode with them. fans of both teams raced to the hospital, too, holding a vigil outside and praying for his recovery alongside the rest of america. bill hemmer, long time bengals fan, but both he end. >> bill: there is so much to say on this. if you ever been to a football game at the nfl level, or at the peewee level, you know who the most concern people in the entire stadium are, and that's mom and dad. really, thoughts go out to his mother right now and his family members who went with him.

i know that hospital well, it's a first-class facility, trauma center. the doctors there are excellent. the things that would concern me at the moment, and doctor, i don't know how you feel about that. i haven't asked you but i'll ask you now, on live tv. why the doctors have not come out and said something about his condition. i don't know the answer for that. maybe there is a very good answer for that. and maybe there's not. if there is not, that means the news is not great, and i am waiting to get something. the bills said he had a pulse on the field, and i'm told that when he got to the hospital he arrived there alive. but why have we gone into a state of silence so many hours later? >> dr. nesheiwat: that's a good question. despite the fact that he is a famous nfl player, he still has the right to privacy, to hipaa. they probably want to stabilize him more before they put out information. like you saw last night, the whole country, the whole nation came together praying for him, because this impacted each and every one of us, even if you are

not an nfl football fan. from my experience, i have taken care of the arkansas a razorback football team members in the past, and the most common type of injuries i saw when they came into the e.r. were shoulder dislocations, fractures, concussions. what happened to damar hamlin is a very rare occurrence, and we believe it is what is called comm blunt force injuries to the chest that could potentially put your heart in cardiac arrest, or put you in an arrhythmia, we are heart's quivering, not beating properly, so you can't pump blood to your brain or the rest of your body and you pass out. that's what we think happened, but we don't know. we don't have details. what we do want to know so far is that if he did have this condition, after cardiac arrest, part of the recovery is they do what is called hypothermic cooling. your body has time to recover to

reduce information in your body. that process usually takes 2-3 days. where we are at, what is our baseline. what we do know so far as his vital signs are stable, that's fantastic, but we do need more information. we do know that he is young, he is healthy. we don't know if he had under ay underlying medical conditions, but i'm sure we will get that information soon. >> harris: how significant is it -- and we knew this last night -- that they have revived and am semi but he wasn't able to breathe on his own? hours later we were told he still couldn't breathe on his own. >> dr. nesheiwat: after cardiac arrest, if you get a pulse back, they put a breathing tube to help your body heal. that happens. you go unconscious, you initiate cpr, you bring out an aed to defibrillator the heart if it is in an irregular rhythm. but it's quite common to sedate and intimate seating get to

breathing on your own. it's very normal and common, and lisa do that in the emergency room all the time. sometimes within hours to a few days we see them awaken, if you will. it goes into the same area as a trach and is to help the body with recovery. it's a common medical practice we see all the time. the good news is the last word we have from the hospital, level one hospital trauma center, his vital signs are stable. we need to do more investigation. did he have possibly a spinal cord injury, head injury? >> harris: he couldn't even brace the fall with his arm because he was out. >> dr. nesheiwat: and when he got up he adjusted his helmet a little bit. that could have put strain on his spinal cord, but we believe this was cardiac in nature. we need to continue to pray for him. unfortunately this is a rare occurrence. because they got him right away, every minute mattered. >> bill: especially if it's

not-12 minutes. it's a long period of time. >> dr. nesheiwat: but they began cpr on him, we got that defibrillator out, so that immediate intervention could be what was life-saving for him. >> kennedy: like you, i was watching the game last night, and we couldn't piece anything together because the sideline reporter and the hosts didn't have information. the only information we could gather was the reaction of the players. and you knew her very serious it was when you saw bengals and bills hugging one another, and he's a great guy, close to his teammates. because with every action, you could tell how scared they were and how moved they were. they were just terrified in the moment, and that is all we could go on as fans, trying to piece things together because we didn't have the information. they didn't have the information. you hate seeing things like that, because these are the

toughest, strongest athletes in the world. this is what they do. they can withstand anything. >> bill: sometimes you have these massive collisions on a football field. you sit and watch a television and go, "whoa!" >> harris: but that's not what this was. he tackled higgins. >> bill: the reality of this, i don't want to say it's run-of-the-mill, but it's a normal collision between the receiver and a defensive back. on that same field by the end of september that was the big controversy with the miami quarterback, tua. he had a concussion on tuesday and came back and played on thursday in cincinnati. >> harris: it just happened again. >> bill: his neck didn't have the strength to keep his head off the turf and there was a collision again. five years ago, on that same stadium, on the monday night game in cincinnati, the pittsburgh steelers had a young linebacker. awesome. he played football at ohio state. he was a team leader on defense. and he had a collision with a tight end or a wide receiver

that looked to be nine yet again, but something happened in his spine. he went to the same facility that tua went to, and where this young man is right now. >> emily: it reminded me of my senior year in college at the university of washington. curtis williams, at the stanford game in 2000. after making a tackle, like last night, he broke his vertebrae and he was paralyzed from the neck down on the field, and he ended up dying at the age of 24. that was in front of live viewership and so many fans and family. you all know that i cheered for several years in the nfl, and during that time my partner played, and there are so many times, as a loved one, as you brought up, when you want your loved one on the field getting hit, and yes, there's plenty of broken bones, there's plenty of blood on the jersey. that is sort of run-of-the-mill even though a normal life that is considered violent or frightening. i remember when hitler he didn't get up, and in that instant, the

world stops. the thing about last night is that instant lasted minutes and into today. it might last for quite some time. >> kennedy: you can tell based on the somberness of their broadcast. you can tell how serious it felt in the entire stadium. >> emily: right. i think there is no way to articulate for those loved ones and for everyone there -- and our hearts go out all of them -- that level of terror, that level of trauma that has now rippled through the nfl. and i also hope his teammates as well as the bengals players all receive the type of attention that they need in this right now. >> harris: it is so helpful to hear your perspective on that, emily, in terms of the person waiting for that information. i can't imagine what it's like for his mom to try to get her out of those crowded stands, get her into the ambulance, to get her away. and stefon diggs hopped in an uber to be with his friend. he had to fight his way out. there is no great way for the players get to the hospital but

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fox news digital, just in from the idaho murder suspect, bryan kohberger. he is in handcuffs arriving at a pennsylvania court today. we are learning new details in the investigation and into the killings of those four college students at the university of idaho. a case, really, that has gripped the nation since the moment it happened, and there was so much uneven and makes information in the beginning. remember that? fox news can now confirm forensic specialist matched dna

from the crime scene with dna that an immediate family member of the suspect, 28-year-old bryan kohberger, submitted to a genealogy testing website in the past. we have also learned in the weeks leading up to his arrest that kohberger drove cross-country in his white elantra he was pennsylvania home for his father, and was pulled over twice in indiana without incident. but we still don't know his connection to the victims, the alleged reason why he did all of this. the motive was to kill, obviously. how he evaded capture for seven weeks, and what led to his arrest, and still no murder weapon has been found. kohberger is set to appear in a pennsylvania court three hours from now. his attorney says he won't fight extradition and -- this is a quote -- is "eager to be exonerated." bill hemmer? >> bill: studied criminology, was working for a phd in a neighboring school across the border between idaho and

washington state. i was just out in idaho. not that part of the state, but a different area. it was pretty much of the talk among a lot of people and on their minds, parents who have kids in college, and the amount of concern they have and had. and then the news breaks. it's like, check this out. they've made an arrest. it sort of changed things and got people -- i think my sense was that they were freer to talk about and discuss it. i don't know if these things are verified or true, and i will repeat them because i don't know if they are facts or not, but this was part of the talk throughout all the conversations of the families in that state. one thing i want to know here: did they have a suspect and think it was this guy? if it is, he is one devious person. if they did, they went looking for all the cameras in town, trying to find the white car that he drove. or was it in reverse? did they see the car first, make

that public, and then get the tip? i think right now i am leaning toward the theory that it is an not b. every time there's a press conference, a lot of us for the holiday put up the phone, go to the fox news app, and if you listen to the questions, the answers were few and far between. they have kept this tight-lipped up to now. there's a reason for that and we are about to find out soon. >> harris: well, yeah, because they started off with "you don't need to leave campus." there's no reason for the public to fear. and they started off talking about targeting it all that other stuff. then they walked it back, then they put it back in, then they walked it back. >> bill: talked to one parent who said his friend's daughter would not leave her apartment until her father drove to moscow, idaho, and took her home. so you multiply that feeling by thousands and thousands and

thousands of students... >> harris: emily, i want to dig that down a little bit into what bill was saying, those two options. nancy grace told me, because we were on the air about a week or so i go together when the news had broken, that the suspect became known to them after they realize the white car, because it was turned in from that convenience store owner. how in the world, with all the call out to the public, could the case on the hinge when the public helps you out if you knew already about the white car? i mean, it's embarrassing for them as authorities that they hadn't canvassed the area and gotten everything they needed. but if the truth turns out to be what your theory is, bill -- again, just looking at some possibilities here, because we haven't known from the beginning with the truth is, really. >> emily: i think once that affidavit is released after the suspect appears in court in idaho, after he leaves pennsylvania, we are going to learn all these details and so much more. it is so fascinating, and i

think what is interesting -- i know this broke a few days ago, but the whole read it sad when someone named bryan kohberger was putting of people who had committed low-level crime seek seeing participants for a research project to understand how emotions and psychological traits influence decision-making when making a crime... he seeks to understand the story behind her most recent criminal offense with an emphasis on her thought and feelings throughout your experience. i think the more we learn about this suspect, the more we are going to learn that he has a multilayered personality and personality profile and criminal justice arena to be clear, that we are going to probably be studying for quite some time. within that will be the answers of how he evaded detection for so long, how he evaded capture, and why. remember, too, it's just as important for law enforcement to create a rock-solid case as it is for them to get someone into custody. >> harris: 100%. >> emily: if he was at his parent's house for a while, perhaps they were amassing more rock solid evidence that he's not released on a technicality

or some type of evidentiary loophole that would leave the rest of us stunned. >> harris: what makes it so hard for a wider public and the family members close to these cases, like in the brian landrie/gabby petito case, by the time they did, he was dead because he had taken his life, so we are told. your thoughts? >> dr. nesheiwat: if this is a man who was an evil predator, a highly functioning mentally disturbed individual, who probably had a long lifetime of mental illness that was never addressed some of it was never picked up because of his high level of functioning, because he was a phd student, probably had a high iq, the common thing that we see in these murderers, these killers, the psychopathic people, our childhood abuse, child neglect, and an extreme trauma. if that goes unaddressed, lisi built up anger and rage and resentment and pain that manifests in what we see with these college students. just unfortunate.

>> kennedy: a lot of people experienced childhood trauma and a brutally murdered four people while they are sleeping. to emily's point, his mind is fascinating, but i'm worried he's going to become famous from all of this. steel and a martyr. >> kennedy: there are so many facts that will be revealed to us from the sealed affidavit, and i'm just worried that it's going to spawn more questions, but worse, fascination with this guy. i hate for him to become -- to enjoy a level of infamy because of this horrific crime. to bill's point, i am really excited to see how law enforcement tracked him down, and when the dots connected, and what was the aha moment where they figured out it was him. i want to hear more about that. >> harris: the line to like law enforcement marter is something that the fbi agents have spoken to me about. not in this case, but others. "look what happens to you. you have to be bold and be out there and be in the public eye so you can engender some sort of

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>> emily: we are getting you details about actor jeremy renner's condition after a horrific snowplowing accident on new year's day. a spokesman says the star suffered both blunt chest trauma and orthopedic injuries. renner is trying to clear a road near his home in lake tahoe and reportedly ran over his own leg with the snowplow. we are told a neighbor, who is a doctor, was able to put a tourniquet on his leg until paramedics arrived, but renner had suffered significant blood loss. video shows renner loaded onto a chopper and airlifted to hospital. he's currently in an intensive care unit in critical but stable condition. doctor, what are your top line thoughts? >> dr. nesheiwat: he actually also suffered blunt trauma to the chest in addition to orthopedic injuries. the reason why his neighbor, who is a doctor, thank goodness, was

there and put a tourniquet, you have the veins in the arteries in your legs. if they get severed, you can image to death in minutes. he saved his life and got into the hospital right away. but i believe it was the safety feature on the snowplow that malfunctioned that caused this. this is why you probably don't want to ever be alone when you're operating machinery, especially if you're outdoors in the cold and want to get help right away. >> emily: we do not know yet, here is what happened in that accident. there are rumors so grating but we don't know the cause of the accident. but even i were sitting on the couch when amy freeze shared with us that the most dangerous thing about snowfall is, frankly, what happens after with humans, trying to clear the roads are below the snow. we lost action sports legend can block on sunday because he was in a snowmobiling accident. just another person in the wake of these tragedies that we keep hearing about. it's really dangerous stuff operating these snowmobiles and the like. >> harris: and ken block was a

rally driver. if that guy can't drive a snowmobile... it's really heartbreaking. we don't know all the details in that case or this one in terms of what went first, if it was a malfunction, all of that. we are looking at this from outside the glass. meteorologist amy freeze says this about tornadoes and hurricanes and other storms. it is the unknown that gets us in trouble when those storms pass and we try to go clear, whether it is snow or debris from a hurricane, or a twister. and you say, well, should he have had somebody with him? that is why teams of people come to disasters. it is disappointing that he was out there by himself. i have read that maybe he enjoyed it, it looks like fun. but we hope and pray he's going to be okay today. >> emily: absolutely. >> bill: william la jeunesse is reporting on this for this don't like us. in mentioned the snowcat come apparently it's old one, german matching fracture. he said there's an investigation of the cause and a news

conference, 3:30 p.m. california time. but they are getting pounded with snow, a big storm coming off the pacific ocean over th there. apparently there was so much heavy snow, they had to get some clearing out in order to get the emergency vehicles there. >> emily: this goes back to that rural aspect, as well as the extreme conditions. it makes every thing so much more difficult and potentially tragic when you are alone out there. >> kennedy: that's why people want to live in nature, because they want to be in it. they want to challenge themselves. he wanted a diy operation. he's got a big house, he's got a ranch. you know, you're from that part of the country. when it snows, anyone ever hear of the donner party? that's what happens. it really can become a life or death situation so quickly. he wanted to be able to plow his land and get things cleared out, because he probably knows that living in that area, you can't always rely on the government te

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>> harris: breaking news now regarding what is going on in the united states house of representatives, and the top republican, kevin mccarthy. moments ago, mccarthy was nominated for house speaker. so he goes from speaker designate to nominee. the vote to officially say whether he will get the job or not is expected to happen very soon, and we should have results later this afternoon. now, if he doesn't get all of the votes -- and, remember, this is the contention, the story today, that he himself, a short time ago, a quote from him was that this could be a battle. if he doesn't get the votes from republicans, if you can't move forward as speaker of the house, they will take another vote. if they still, bill, can't get to the point where they agree, nancy pelosi will be sitting in the corner trying to figure out -- like, is there a clerk i can appoint? and the power will remain in the hands of democrats until they take over officially with the speaker. >> bill: so we watched

something we haven't seen in some time. >> harris: 100 years. >> kennedy: i remember it, harris. [laughter] >> harris: and you look amazing! [laughs] >> bill: even if they were some members of your party who weren't happened with the on myhappy with the proposed speakers, they would fall in lir time. there were those who objected to nancy pelosi, but they came around. these guys aren't. they are holding their ground. you can debate whether or not it was smart for mccarthy to negotiate over the weekend, but that was the decision he made. if he is speaker, you're going to have to herd the cats. >> kennedy: or he's going to throw them in an iron maiden. >> bill: if he agrees to the proposal to have the people vote, who would want that job anyway? >> harris: why didn't he give up on that? >> bill: right on the edge of the whole time. >> harris: think about the potentiality when the she was on the other foot, politically. they have a situation where a speaker can be voted out? what does that look like in the

future? >> bill: he apparently made, behind closed doors -- many people were reporting on it, that he said "i've earned this job." i can tell you that over the past two and a half, three years, kevin mccarthy scoured the country looking for the best candidates possible for all these districts that were either up for grabs over and swing districts. he personally recruited a lot of these candidates and thought they had a very good chance of winning this past november. it did not go the way the republicans wanted. >> harris: emily, when you look at the total picture here and all the things you listed earlier this hour they need to get done, the delay on some of them is an emergency. we need to be talking about losing our nation's sovereignty at the border, after an extension -- i mean, we're talking a temporary extension of title 42? >> emily: when he mentioned the billions of appropriations, the immediate activity of that, also we would see immediate relief. that is exactly the point you are making, that every minute

this is delayed, that any kind of conclusion is delayed, is actually an impact on the american people. and when you say, what does that look like? about the five votes i could potentially get them out later on, one argument, it is kennedy's point, it looks like accountability. it looks like the lack of the comfort, "this is my chair for quite some time," and perhaps it ensures that he'll be connected as he scours the country to those voices and all the cities that represent all these americans. albeit, his drawing ended up being wrong. that's the issue. >> harris: said there are three nominations right now. kevin mccarthy, andy biggs, the representative from arizona, and hakeem jeffries. that's interesting, too. a democrat. he's not a lowly soft-spoken guide. this is the guy who called the former president donald trump the grand wizard of the kkk. >> kennedy: really brought on the temperature there, hakeem. good job. such a rational declaration.

some of these republicans are so fed up with the holdouts that they are going to start working with democrats. they'll put up a moderate republican they like and get the numbers from them. for a lot of conservatives, that's really the worst-case scenario. that's even more of the status quo in washington. bill brought this up earlier. i think kevin mccarthy gave away too much over the weekend. he negotiated badly, and it has now come to bite him in the keister. but someone has to pay the price for the few gains that republicans made in the house, because that was supposed to be a very, very comfortable margin. doesn't someone have to answer for that? it's democrats who go, "oh, my god, we did still amazing, we didn't lose that much." that's loser thinking. >> harris: joe biden is not convinced of that. he thinks he did it. >> kennedy: he still thinks this is 1954. >> harris: anyway, we won't even go there. we know the numbers. >> dr. nesheiwat: i think you're right. it is an emergency, especially at the border, how much fentanyl

and methamphetamines and cocaine and heroin are coming in. we have about 300 americans die every single day, because of the ingredients that china is sending to mexico, and then they are providing to the cartels who are profiting, making millions at our expense and at the expense of innocent men, women, and children. >> bill: for folks watching at home, harris, they might be wondering why we are so focused on this. >> harris: oh, no, i think they get it. >> bill: according to the house rules, you don't do anything until you get a speaker. >> harris: they get it. that's part of the problem. >> bill: does it happen for a couple hours? does it last a day? visit extended to a week's time, or beyond? for house republicans who have been looking for the majority for a long time, doctor, they are going after a lot of these issues you just mentioned. but for now they are frozen in time in washington. >> emily: let's say you park wrong in your neighborhood, or something happens with the government, they bill you for every moment over that you are in that space. you get billed for every second

that you have not appropriately apportion your finances to them. i wonder, can we bill the government, then, for the inability to come together to save the american people? it's a little funny, but i also mean that. these guys serve at the pleasure of the american people, and i think sometimes that notion is lost. i hope they stop fighting over minutia and start putting the interest of the american people -- >> kennedy: i think you have a great idea! we should be able to sue. what about all the ppp loans? $100 billion. we don't know where that money went. what about all the ways the government is redundant and wastes so much money? we should sue. we should get that money back because taxation is theft, to emily's point. >> harris: i don't know if the camera goes back on this, because we can't control it, but can you imagine what's going through kevin mccarthy's mind right now? we are showing a close-up of him in the center of the screen, and we will start to listen to this vote momentarily, which is supposed to happen. let's watch and listen.

>> mccarthy. bishop of georgia. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. bishop of north carolina. >> biggs. >> biggs. jeffries. blunt, rochester? >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. boebert? >> i'd like to cast my vote for jordan. >> jordan.

[cheers and applause] >> jeffries. mccarthy. >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. pennsylvania? >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. banks. brown? >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries.

brownlee? >> proudly, hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. buchanan? >> mccarthy. >> mccarthy. buck? >> mccarthy. >> mccarthy. bouchon? >> kevin mccarthy. >> mccarthy. jeffries. >> kevin mccarthy. >> mccarthy. burgess? >> kevin mccarthy. >> mccarthy. burlison? >> mccarthy. >> mccarthy. bush? >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. calvert? >> mccarthy.

cammack? >> mccarthy. >> mccarthy. jeffries. carbajal? >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. cardenas? >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. carey? >> proudly, kevin mccarthy. >> mccarthy. carl? >> for the next speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy. >> mccarthy. carson? >> jeffries. >> jeffries. carter of georgia? >> kevin mccarthy. >> mccarthy.

carter of louisiana? >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. carter of texas? mccarthy. cartwright? >> jeffries. >> jeffries. [laughter] jeffries. case? jeffries. casten? >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. castro of florida? >> jeffries. >> jeffries. castro of texas? >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. chavez?

>> mccarthy. >> mccormick? >> jeffries. chu? >> jeffries. >> cicilline? >> very proudly, hakeem hakeem jeffries. >> mccarthy. clark of massachusetts? >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. clarke of new york? >> the bad, brilliant brotha from brooklyn. [laughter] >> jeffries. cleaver? >> hakeem jeffries. >> jeffries. cline? >> kevin mccarthy. >> mccarthy.