>> this is so true. everybody wants to rule the world. we can only have one speaker. >> so far we don't have any. stay tuned. it's groundhog day again. >> no speaker. >> so long. >> bill: thanks, guys, great show. good morning. are they holding the house hostage or are they making the process better? the stand-off to elect a speaker in its third day. is today the day for a break through? the question we have as of last night as we say good morning. i'm bill hemmer. >> dana: i'm dana perino. this is "america's newsroom." on "the five" last night jess watters said i've never seen the hostage has to commit suicide. really good point. we'll see what today brings. congressman kevin mccarthy remains defiant after trying and failing six times to secure votes to become speaker.

is the seventh time the charm? we'll find out at noon eastern when the house reconvenes for another round of voting. >> bill: you have 20 republicans refusing to back mccarthy. because of their narrow majority mccarthy could only lose four. >> dana: the two sides talked about the impasse. he hopes to agree to more demands. among them a lower threshold to try to oust him from the speaker's chair and want more freedom caucus members on committees and guaranteed votes on bills conservatives have been pushing for. >> is that enough to move the needle? both size expressing optimism but republicans still aren't unified. >> a reason kevin mccarthy doesn't want to continue having vote. with each vote he seems to be decreasing in his vote share. we suspect the trend is likely to continue. >> what exactly do you want? you want what, four out of nine positions on the rules committee? >> i want to be able to have

enough members on the rules committee we can block bad bills. >> kevin mccarthy has negotiated in good faith for a year. we have to stop the theatrics. >> kevin mccarthy didn't want to listen to us until his disappointing mid-terms. we all want a unified party. this isn't chaos. we're open to a menu of options. >> you are proving that 20 people don't want kevin mccarthy. >> bill: rich edson begins coverage from the hill. where do we stand? >> good morning. we've got several rounds of voting. then negotiations and still the same result. republicans in the house are short the votes of picking a speaker of the house. kevin mccarthy has been the republican leader since 2019. told us over the summer come january he was going to be speaker of the house and he is still at it trying to convince enough of his colleagues to back him. 20 house republicans have chosen

other candidates throughout this process. the latest byron donalds who backed mccarthy initially. donalds now says it is time to look beyond the gop leader. >> the path is very difficult right now for kevin. my intention is to make sure we get a speaker elected and start this process. it may be me, may not be me. >> more maneuvering from mccarthy. his political action committee struck a deal with pac not to spend money in open primaries in solid republican districts. he is reportedly lowered the threshold to one member to call a vote to replace the speaker. more freedom caucus members on a key committee and votes on controversial legislation. the bulk of republicans back mccarthy and say it's time to elect him and get going on the new majority. >> we all want to see this big-ticket items we've campaigned on and promised the constituents we would get to

work on. the border, stopping fentanyl poisoning. we can't until we elect a speaker. >> democrats have hung together unanimously supporting their new leader hakeem jeffries for speaker. no one wins until a candidate gets the majority of all people voting on the house floor. back at it at noon. bill and dana, back to you. >> back with you throughout the morning. thank you. dana. >> dana: the battle over the next speaker may get a lot of attention but the cover of the "new york times" says the chaos at the border is the real crisis. president biden plans to go to the border next week. peter doocy live with more at the white house. you asked him the question yesterday and the indication was he would be going. >> not the first time in two years since he took office. the first time ever. as officials who have previously dismissed border trips as political stunts changed course.

>> will you visit the border? >> president biden: that's my intention. we're working out the details now. >> it represents a shift in priorities for the president. today officials have put the economy tops emphasizing investments in american innovation like chips on recent border state trips. >> why go to a border state and not visit the border? >> president biden: more important thing going on. they will invest billions of dollars in a new enterprise. >> officials didn't think a trip to the border would be productive in advancing policy. >> why don't you want to go? >> i think it's an issue of what's most constructive to address what we see as the challenging situation at the border and a broken immigration system. his view is the most constructive role we can play is by helping to push immigration reform forward, helping reform the broken policies of the last several years, and listening to

his team of advisors who have been to the border multiple times. >> republicans are crediting the president with taking a border trip but saying it is mostly about timing. >> i'm glad the president is traveling to the border after 5 million people have crossed illegally and 100,000 people died because of fentanyl coming primarily from china into mexico. you have to question the timing of this. juxtaposing this trip versus what's happening right now from where i stand in the congress and the house, with the chaos that's going on. i think he is trying to jocks to pose it but hasn't done anything to secure the border. >> in two hours we'll get remarks from the president and the vice president about border security rough life a year and a half after her only trip to the border as v.p. >> dana: thank you. >> bill: reaction.

more on this rich lowry, editor in chief of the national review. your piece on christmas day saying biden was stuck with a god awful mess and mayokas talked about inheriting a dismantled system. did you buy it? >> the crisis of his making. it is one thing to go to a meeting in paris and not visit the border and another thing to go to mexico city and criticisms are beginning to tell when he hasn't visited the border in a crisis largely of his making. >> dana: one of the things that criticism is widespread. >> do you think it's important for president biden to go to the border for himself? >> president, senior leaders, absolutely. senior leaders need to deal with a crisis.

>> the dhs secretary has been there many times. >> is there value to the president going? >> there is value to the president going everywhere. >> more interested in the border communities. i'm the president of the united states and here at the border, i feel your pain border communities. >> dana: do you think this biden border visit is a check the box exercise so he stops getting asked the question when will he go to the border or will there be some genuine recognition there is a huge problem and give a speech today and lay out some things. they know we have to deal with soechlth he is gearing up to announce. >> it is check the box. he could set the white house at the border bust his processing is bad. the underlying problem you are a bogus asylum seeker, you get to the border and you get in and no one makes you leave, word travels south you get in no

matter what. the crisis is built on itself. >> bill: all the actions from this administration defies the fact that -- the state of arizona taking away the containers. another issue with the speaker. i don't know where you are on this now. mccarthy is conceding to a number of the demands on those holding out including changing the motion to vacate the chair from five members to one. what that means is one person can object and you have to vote on who is the speaker. add more members to the house freedom caucus top committees. they want that. a promise to vote on major bills that conservatives have been pushing. in the end is this exercise, all frustrating, could it be a more -- lead to a more effective leadership and governance? >> the good changes have to do around spending and appropriations bill. chip roy is very sincere. doesn't juan want omnibus bills ever again. the one vote threshold to vacate

the chair was the rule prior to nancy pelosi changing it. yes, if kevin mccarthy makes it he will be teetering on the edge. one way or the other whatever the rule is about vacating the chairs. the chairmanships is a classic horse trading but could upset other members of the caucus that think the freedom caucus is getting special treatment after dragging the party through a mellow drama. if the deal happens kevin mccarthy vote share will go up but probably still short . a couple days after doing this and getting weak and still short you hear more voices saying it's not working, we need to consider an alternative. >> dana: what's worse, getting the job or not getting the job? i have think at this point it is interesting kevin mccarthy does want the job and going for it and i parently reports from his camp they're making progress. well oh he -- we'll see you at

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and flooding and strong winds. gusts at 132 miles-per-hour near lake tahoe. equivalent to a cat four hurricane. a baby was killed after a tree fell into a home. hundreds at risk from mudslides and flash flooding. storms drenched the area a week ago. great for skiers and snowboarders. bay area has nine inches of rain since christmas 2 to 5 this week and more for next week. warm in the east and rainy in the west. >> dana: the suspect in the idaho student murders returns to the state in handcuffs after being arrested in pennsylvania on friday. bryan kohberger will be charged with first degree murder today. the affidavit of probable cause that holds key details about the case will become public after that hearing. jonathan hunt is live in moscow, idaho with the latest. catch us up. >> good morning, dana.

bryan kohberger is waking up this morning if he slept at all in the county jail behind me here in moscow, idaho. he was flown back from pennsylvania last night. he has been on the ground for about 12 hours now here in idaho. he landed at pullman airport across the border with washington state. we saw him as he walked across the tarmac in a red jumpsuit. then he was brought here to the county jail and now he awaits that first court appearance. now that will be a formality. it will -- it will trigger the unsealing of the probable cause aftfidavit so we'll hear why investigators believe he is the killer. what if any planning they believe went into the crime and perhaps what investigators believe may have been the motive. the judge has imposed a gag

order on all those involved here in idaho but officials in pennsylvania, where kohberger was originally arrested, have been talking. listen here. >> in any case of this nature, and i prosecuted a fair share of homicides, double homicides, that sort of thing, you want to look at any evidence of possible motive. you want to look at any evidence of a pattern, of method, you want to get into the subject's character, an all-encompassing effort that we stand ready for. >> we know thanks to the reporting of dan springer that the f.b.i. was watching kohberger as he and his father drove cross-country back to pennsylvania in december. they, in fact, asked state police in indiana to stop the pair, looking for behavioral

clues and wanting body cam video of kohberger's hands. no one wants the answers to all the questions surrounding this case more than the families of the four victims. dana. >> dana: jonathan hunt in idaho. >> bill: let's bring in a former f.b.i. special agent. a still image of the father and son inside the car. the f.b.i. wanted to get a look at his hands. what does that tell you, if anything? >> well look, this is the first time probably that they've been on him and this is the first opportunity they were going to have. they knew once he got home they weren't going to have the opportunity until they were able to arrest him to take a look at those hands. it is called a pretext stop. i used it all the time. i worked the mafia in the new york city in queens and brooklyn. you have a unformed officer follow the person until they commit a traffic infraction. pull them over. discuss the infraction and gain

any other information that you were looking for. i think in this case the two of them so close together really puzzles me. you don't want your suspect raising up and being suspicious of why they are being pulled over. the first one was certainly directed by the f.b.i. the second one maybe they didn't get enough from the first one but it was minutes later, ten minutes later. normally in those interstates, the state police do the stop. the sheriff did the first stop. it tells me it was the f.b.i. directions. >> bill: two more questions here. you have questions about the father which may or may not in the end be valid. they are driving in the car, moving across country. make your point. >> he had just reregistered -- he was getting his washington state plates and reregistered the car and just moved there the semester before. you would think he would keep the car and fly home for the holidays. why drive all that way and then what, drive back in january when

the new semester starts? it's puzzling why he is moving the car back to pennsylvania when he just moved it to washington, just got new plates. the entire country knows we're looking for a white elantra. the parents know their son lives ten minutes from a quadruple murder site and the white elantra was in the news and makes me wonder whether the father realized they were moving a white lon car away. >> bill: john kelly talked to us. what's interesting is people are talking about how smart he is. looking at the mistakes he made criminology 101 looks like a moron to me. if you stalk and kill somebody the worst place to do it is indoors because there is a chance you'll leave evidence versus an outdoor crime scene. you might agree with that. then he went on to say i think

he was an incell and hated women. an incel is someone who spends time online and doesn't have any real life relationships. what do you make of kelly's ob sir -- observations? >> i think he is right on. it stands for involuntarily cel celibate, guys that can't establish normal relationships with women for a variety of reasons. they get frustrated at women because they aren't able to start or maintain relationships with them. so they really harbor this really a lot of rage against women. i thought that from the beginning. i also thought and said before in other outlets this is not a master criminal. he is in custody barely six weeks after a major quadruple homicide with a complex crime scene. great police work on behalf of the investigative team and quite

frankly the criminology degree, if he was doing that in order to try to become some master criminal he should get tuition money back. it didn't work at all in this case. >> bill: the murders happened on november 13th. he was pulled over in mid-december. december 15th, i think. it's likely the f.b.i. was tracking him for weeks and just waiting to follow him and gather more evidence. would you buy that, bobby? >> yeah, bill, that's quite possible that they were taking a closer and closer look at him. and again when he is in his car is the really only possibility that you can have to have one of these pretext stops what we call them where you can get a close look at him and close look at his hands. it's a couple weeks after the event. there may be healing going on and he may have wore gloves at the attack site. i don't know how much information they were able to gather from that -- those stochlts it is an investigative

technique i've used and not surprised it was used in this case. >> bill: thank you, sir, for your analysis there. thanks. >> i think we can say pretty conclusively after looking at tens of thousands of emails over the course of these weeks that the government was in the censorship business in a huge way. >> dana: one of the journalists who published the twitter files putting in focus big tech and big brother. how extensive in the collusion in censorship? the house going on vote seven. can republicans move the ball forward? >> if you had a football team with 11 members and all but the left guard and tight end wanted to do one play and those two wanted to do another. it doesn't work that way. >> dana: kevin mccarthy giving into more demands as the speaker's gavel remains out of his reach. how many concessions will he make in his bid for the top spot? ♪

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garrett tenney. >> damar hamlin is still in the icu sedated and on a ventilator. there are small signs of improvement. we're hearing that damar's dad was able to share that encouraging news with the entire buffalo bills team wednesday on a zoom call according to espn reporter who said it was an update that the team really needed to hear. late yesterday we also heard from the cincinnati bengals players for the first time since monday night and quarterback joe burrows talked how this tragedy is going to change the way players talk and think about the violence in football going forward. >> you mention it maybe every now and then but it is not anything -- you never mention it in a serious sense. you have these thoughts and you have -- you know it could happen, but you've never seen it happened and it has never happened to you. now everyone is taking a step

back and understanding really the kind of game we play, how dangerous it is and how it really could have been any one of us in that situation. >> both his family and nfl officials are praising the quick response by medical staff monday night and nfl chief medical officer said the fast actions likely saved damar's life. >> certainly we never want to see events like this occur. but if there were to be a medical emergency, there was absolutely the right team with the right equipment and the right training on site able to provide care. >> the support continues to come in for damar and his family including from the white house where president biden said he spoke with damar's parents by phone at length yesterday and hamlin's foundation has now raised more than $7 million since monday night as we all wait and hope for more good news as his road to recovery continues. >> dana: thank you. >> bill: the head coach from the

bengals said he hope damar can see the outpouring of support for him. this gentleman boomer will join us next hour. spent most of his career with the bengals and join us in studio next hour. stay tuned. >> dana: a few hours until the house reconvenes to elect a new speaker. kevin mccarthy is hoping to break stalemate by giving in to more of his opponents' demands. among them a lower threshold to try to oust him from the speaker's chair. here to talk about it is jason chaffetz and harold ford junior, fox news contributors. good to have you both here. i said last night everybody should go for a drink, right and should be able to solve their differences. i don't think that happened last night. they didn't even get pizza. jason and you, harold, as well. if kevin mccarthy gives into some of the other concessions, is there a tipping point where being speaker becomes a situation where it is ungovernable in the house?

>> it is ungovernable right now. i don't know how much more kevin mccarthy can do. he went too far. five seats to vacate the chair? i think the threshold should be higher. some people want to take it to one? remember, democrats also live by these same rules. you know how many times they'll have to vote on the speaker and force a vote that democrats can use those rules, too? >> dana: at any point. >> bill: the old threshold was 50%, right? >> it used to be one but mark meadows invoked it on john boehner and boehner stepped down. the rule was on the books for 100 plus years. nobody had actually used it. then he used it. pelosi saw that and said i don't want to go through that we need the threshold 50%. >> bill: we now see how she was able to insulate herself with power for a long time. >> thanks for having me. i agree with jason. if you are one of the 90% of

republicans who have supported or are supporting kevin mccarthy and you worked with him throughout the year to negotiate why you would want to support him, and then you see at the last minute that he is going to cave in perhaps to some of these demands which i think are as nine. to have one person that can upend and cause question about a constitutional office. the speaker is not the majority leader. he is second in line to be president of the united states. he doesn't have to be a member of congress. what we're witnessing in so many ways. i don't believe that republicans campaigned on this. they campaigned on the border, on energy, on crime, they campaigned on reducing spending. these kinds of things they're campaigning on. i don't remember a republican saying i will tell kevin mccarthy he can't be speaker if he doesn't agree with me on everything. this is terrible what is happening. as the democrat i take no joy in this. i hope they are able to get it done today. if it is speaker mccarthy,

whoever it is, if they don't cave in i think the one-vote thing. this could be as damaging a thing for the next speaker whether the next two years or a democrat two years after or whenever is anything. they should get back to legislating. not dictating but legislating. >> dana: we hear from kevin mccarthy's camp they think they're making progress. do you have any insight? >> i think they made some progress. they should have hashed this out two months ago. i have said this several times. there is more transparency in how you elect the next miss america than there is on how you elect the next speaker. this type of discussion should happen behind doors. i think if i was there and i'm not, i'm proud of the fact i left, but i think you hash that out. i probably would have voted against kevin mccarthy. i would have made a passionate plea. he has been in leadership for 14 years. we don't want to perpetuate the status quo. we didn't have great results.

you know what? when we had the vote in conference and i lost and kevin prevailed and you support him. it's what i did with donald trump. i originally supported marco rubio and trey gowdy and john radcliffe and a whole bunch of other, tim scott, mike pompeo but marco lost and trump and he ended up being a great president. >> i have agree with him. i don't agree -- i disagree with -- i agree with the way he thinks. >> bill: if republicans are holding are line are they making the process better? i don't think the public pays attention to details but the dysfunction. maybe in the near term does it make them a better governing body? >> i don't know. my argument would be no because i think what they are asking for -- i can understand if they said

we're against kevin mccarthy because we don't think he will be strong enough on the border. we don't think he will fund police officers enough in the country to fight crime. what they are talking about are things that i don't think the american people understand and it sounds more personal and petty in grievances than it does patriotic in public service. that's my issue with them. again, the reason i shook my head everything jason said, these are things you settle in a room. >> dana: go get a drink? >> drinking is not a problem in congress. that's not the problem. >> dana: get together with no phones, no pictures, anything like that. we'll see what happens today. great to have you both on set. thank you for coming. >> bill: you guys agree on a lot. >> we actually do. >> we're friends which makes it easier. >> dana: we're all friends here. thank you so much. legal challenges forcing arizona to take down a makeshift border wall and uphofficials say it's

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>> bill: good stuff. thank you for that. see her sunday morning. from europe today an historic funeral for pope benedict xvi. thousands attending st. peter's square. this was history. one pope leading the funeral for

another. bringing an end to a day's long memorial. he died on saturday at age 95. 160,000 from around the world traveled to pay respects just this week. >> dana: controversy over race and academic achievement erupting at virginia's thomas jefferson high school involving allegations that students were not notified of their national merit awards until after important deadlines for college applications had passed. the state's attorney general launching an investigation. >> to the extent that withholding of any of these awards at thomas jefferson high school was based on race, national origin or any other protected status, if the law was broken, my office will both protect and vindicate the civil rights of thomas jefferson students and their families. >> dana: joining us is shauna, a parent whose son was awarded a letter of commendation from the

national merit scholarship corporation but not in time for the applications. sorry for what you and your family are going through. glad it is being exposed. tell us about your son and the national merit scholarship and how you found out it was delayed. >> i was sitting in my home office working and my husband came in on november 21st and handed me this certificate that he found in my son's room. and it said he was a commended scholar from the national merit scholarship corporation. we were celebrating with him and then i looked at the certificate and it said that it was dated september of 2022. so i asked my son when did you receive this? he said we got them in homeroom last week. i said that's too late for you to put on your college applications. we worked hard like many parents and families across the country with their students to apply for early admission deadline dates for many schools is november 1st. so i started investigating and

tried to find out what happened. when i asked the school about it, dana, the response that i got was yeah, they had them but they held onto them to figure out a good time to give them out to the students where the students that didn't receive the certificates and awards from national merit wouldn't feel bad. >> the current understanding the delay at thomas jefferson high school was a unique situation due to human error but continue to examine our records in further detail. do you think that there will be an investigation and we'll see what happens. for your son, i guess it is possible, as you wait to see what colleges are going to say about his applications, that having -- if he had been able to say that he was a recipient of one of these commendations it might have helped him to get a school or a scholarship so your family could have been harmed. >> you have no idea what the schools look at. college admissions is a black

box. so are scholarship corporations. we don't know what they look at when they award merit-based awards but things that are merit recognition are important to put on those applications. these kids are 16 and 17 years old. it is not like they've got years of accolades like you or i do. this is their job. they study in school, do well, and they should be able to be rewarded for those achievements. they can't do that if the school is not providing that information to them in a timely manner. >> dana: overall, zooming out have you noticed a difference in the way the schools as your child has gotten older now and senior in high school or junior, that there has been a move by the school district to try to protect students who might feel bad if they have don't succeed at the rate of another student that things aren't based on merit like they used to be? >> yeah. when my son first walked into the school as a freshman there was a big, you know, ceremony

and orientation where the families were invited and the school said lots of wonderful things about the students and how hard they worked to get into the school. there was an admissions test that was part of the process for determining admission. the last two years they got rid of that admissions test and i have seen a noticeable difference in what the administration has done in terms of prioritizing the merit and achievement of the students. they are more fixated on the concerns about the students all being celebrated for who they are as individuals and not for their achievements. i think, dana, those two things are not mutually exclusive. we can celebrate kids for who they are and also celebrate them when they achieve really great things like a national merit scholarship commendation. >> dana: thank you very much. >> thank you so much. >> bill: she makes a lot of sense. horrific discovery in the state of utah. a family of eight found shot to death in their home.

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>> bill: awful story out of the state of utah. eight members of one family, five of them children, all found dead with gunshot wounds inside their home. william la jeunesse live on that story out of l.a. what do we know about what happened here? >> it's still early in the investigation, bill. not a lot of details. this happened in the small town of utah in the southwest corner of the state, population 8,000. a family found dead inside a home. neighbors were stunned. they knew the family from schools and activities and church. three adults and five minors were found dead. all children attended the local

school district. a neighbor spec later the third adult may have been a nanny. >> we didn't interact with them a lot. said hi when they were out doing yard work. never, ever a problem or anything over there ever that -- i never heard an argument over there. >> the father an insurance agent. the wife, according to court records recently filed for divorce. unusual given how central family is within the lbs church. the lowest divorce race compared to -- police have no motive and no suspects at large suggesting a murder/suicide within the family. >> i can tell you right now that the amount of prayers are being asked for each other and for the family. it is probably throughout this whole community.

>> the local sheriff's office and nearby cedar city police department are assisting in the investigation. >> bill: terrible stuff. thank you. william la jeunesse. >> dana: experts warn the great resignation is not over yet. high job openings threatening the labor force. jeff flock is here to tell us more. >> still working. my grand parents used to complain nobody wants to work anymore. there is a huge disparity between the number of job openings and people wanting to work. 10 1/2 million or so job openings at last report from the bls and only 6 million people looking for work. if everybody got a job we would still be short. if you look at the graph of job openings, they jumped after the pandemic and now still high. can't find workers. some people like the co-founder of home depot to say nobody

wants to work anymore. the quote just give it to me, signed me money, i don't want to work. i'm to fat or stupid. people weren't quite as -- >> you need to work. you need to wake up at 4:00 in the morning, make your lunch in the house and be responsible for your life. >> i have think the issue is skilled labor. it seems like in general there are jobs open but not the right people to fill a lot of them. >> there are a lot of people get a check. >> i'm one of them. i get a check. >> we're short staffed. nobody wants to work and everybody wants free money. >> maybe some of us, though, dana, decided we wanted to do something else with our lives. i'm still happy doing this. i don't know about you. >> dana: i love my job. thank you, jeff, good to see

you. >> i felt as though we had a very good discussion. >> dana: fox news alert. after two days and six failed votes the house remains without a speaker but republican leader kevin mccarthy says he is optimistic after closed door talks. welcome to a new hour of "america's newsroom," i'm dana perino. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer. i think flock's question would be a good segment on "the five." >> dana: are you producing "the five" now? meghan, bill has an idea. you are probably right. we're probably doing that story today. good idea. >> bill: thank you for humoring me. lawmakers set for another long day. two hours they'll wheel and deal. 20 hard line conservatives remain opposed to mccarthy's bid. he needs to flip 12 to stand a chance at the gavel when the house reconvenes today. >> dana: jim banks, one of the 20 no votes suggests a deal could soon be at hand.