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probably best. we don't know. we'll be back tomorrow night. thank you for sticking in for the hour. we will see you eight pm tomorrow and every other weeknight.t 8:00 p.m. tomorrow other weeknights ♪t the best night with the ones you love. >> see them. >> wel >>co how welcome to hannity. and tonight, the ladieths offew the view have a few choicech for words for yours truly. we all respond to that coming ano up. plus, another edition of the hannity hotseather editit. instt tonight, wute institutedd new rules and i'll explain as the shoexplaiw moves forwardr tonight. but straight ahead, liberal firebrand and former congressmad tonigh d formern luis gutierrez, he will weigh in on biden's border on tcrisis. last night, one brutal viewer, velma, our friend, thought fromw vegas and we got a c minus last night during our last call segment.
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let's hope we can improve. tonight. all right. but first, we ar are now on nighthouse three of the battle for the house speaker and we begin tonight with some good news. i can confirn m major negociate vote been going on all day behind the scenes while these votes were taking place todayhe with kevin mccarthy and many of the republican holdouts. thi and i can report that at this hour, a documented being put together that will go a long way to settling differences. 28 will it get kevin to two hundred and eighteen? we won'twe won know until probay sometime tomorrow, maybe monday. if anything, it would justle ofo probably be a couple of votes short, but certainly progress. itht a is realt th tonight at ts hour, no doubt the american people are being patient, butop that patience is wearingle thin the vote totals remain as of now unchanged. three straightotals re days. we have two hundred republicans supporting mccarthy 20 supportin g somebody else. and the past twenty four hours, kevin mccarthy has made several additional assurances to the holdouts. this
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is before these meetings today, including a new one voteh thresholt d for a motion to vacate. in other words, one republican b spnferenceot vote to oust the speaker if he doesn't keep his promises. and mccarthy also agreed to add freedom caucus members to the all important rules committee and committed to stand alone votes for each of the 12s approp appropriations bills as well. bills asas a vote on term limitr members of congress. >> and again, look at your screen. mccarthy has already laid outmet his commitments to america. he it's on paper. he signed his names ., that is a promise of men .iven t he's given detailed promisesomis on the economy o, including less government spending, fewer regulations, domestigovernc eney production, energy independence, protecting against china, surrounding supply chain issues, also promises related to farm policy ,border security, ending ecurit biden's catch and release, and , of course, bringin gn th back that successful trump policies on the borderer, fundig
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the police. yes, that's important. parental rightyes, big tech and big government censorship, seection integrity, protections for the first and second amendments and a lot more to mor that document. he signed hi, s name to it. tha thisre is an agenda that republicans support. it includes key investigations, oversights a firm stance against all of biden's reckless policies and by the way,discus he's agreed to every investigation we have discussed up to datese-to-date. now, kevin mccarthy does becomee speaker and he fails to liver p to the promises just one person can initiate his removal. and the agenda seems to be pretty much in cement and itfirs is the america first agenda.t keep now, keep in mind, these aren' n the only promises mccarthy made to republican lawmakers. >> take a look at this. l take ahe led the conference to t substantive reforms that will make our majority more effective. let me list some of them. andrew clydes proposalto to restore public access to th capital law and bobbers proposal to reduce the linkagern
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between the ncc and the steering committee process. garyoces palmer's proposal to cp spending on suspension bills. pes proposal for additional conference meetings ahead of key votes. bob goodlatte proposal on standalone appropriations bills. andy biggs proposal limiting suspension waivers from committees. chip roys proposal to make r co-sponsors amendment co-sponsored amendments in order affirmed 72 hours of 70 to publication of bills before calling for a recordedcation vod end to a proxy voting and into remote participation in by me committee work by members of congress. >>mb. ga let me be clear.vorite kevin mccarthy is still the odds on favorite to become speakeo become, nor. now, some members have statedhyn that they will not vote for mccarthy no matter whaert these quote, never kevans. whatever you want to call them.i they don't havp e a planl anot to install another speaker. as a matter of fact, almost a every dalmy they nominate somebody else. there's noth t with the motion to vacate, however, and alls an these other concessions and complete agreement
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on the agenda as it relates to investigations, his commitments to america. it's kind of time that they start getting to work. this all should have been done before january 3rd. as of now, there is no viable alternative or a concrete vision for the country moving forward. i know the democrats are loving it. i know the media mob is loving it. i hope members will remembernd o they are supposef tid to be pubc servants. they are to serve yoow, theru, o the public that put them ipenhe office, that gave them the opportunity to lead atto l some point in the near future.er house republican fs will neede i to put aside their differences and actually goverr n, follow the commitments for america, follow the investigation s and do the will the american people. the gop now holdwi peopls a slih majority in one half oalfne bra one branch of governmentnc. they will not have the powery rm to totally reimagine how ourag federal government conducts business. however, they will have will hathe power of the purse, the power of subpoena. in they can bring in biden offic officialias.
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exey can expose corruption if it exists in the doj and the fbi, they can holdth anthony fauci accountable. they could hold adam accountable, eric swalwell accountable, big tech accountable. and the biden family syndicate accountable and say noa, to biden's reckless agenda. that is what mccarthy hasthy ha promised to do in writing like with the help of people like jim jordan, jim coleman, steve scalise and others. that is , what, tw ao hundred house republicans have already signed off on . again, if they don't d dore is their job, fire them.a here's a question., wh what wouldat reagan do now?y to held famously told his staff, i hope these people in dc might listen. you the person who agrees with you 80% of the time is a friend and an ally, not a 20 percent traitor.not republicans might be wise to heed that advice. anyone elsto e is now holding ot in the name of some vague vision to drain the swamp without tot actionable plan is t looking out for you. the american people, instead ofn
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looking for attention for themselvesfor , the american pee certainly deserve good certr. nce and bette here now at the very latest as the host of special report, prepare. bee i've been following it all day. i've been in contact all day pel with people involved with these negotiations.d however, how clever. this if they get this deal donede, i'm not certain gets to 218. it might get to to fourteen or two. fifteen, and then there'll still be a nee d to get a fewoard more on board. aring that's exactly right, john . and i've been hearing the sametm thing that number is roughly to 14 to 15. but you're heading into the weekend, friday, whereiday e there will be expecteds of the some members on both sides of the aisle that will not show up, will not be there for various reasons. absences, remember ,e hi the democrats every time every ballot have hit to twelve, the number, the maximum number there are feve, the votes, if there are fewer, it changewes the math and your magic number
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becomes less. and that is possible to then have that number as long as it's more than twelve. ll be but there will be wel some democrats missing as well. to your point in your open, i think that you're right that there is a lot of concern about spending specifically and there in a lotare a lot of people say, hey, listen, w ce need to change the way congress works. some of some of these concessios deal strictly with that. and i think you saw one oftoday, the nominating speeches today, french hill from arkansaassesset sasentially go right to that, ia saying, we don't want massive omnibus bills hitting the floor. we wan t to be able to read them over seventy two hours. we want to havto hourse a say ia this. and they're trying to structure this deal thatl that, as you po, out, is being written up. so it's in st. thatpponen withopponents, the 20 votingts against mccarthy and see itsa and say, i can sign on to this, there are never mccarthy votes,
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probably four of them that arehs like barnacles on a boat tha nt he's not going to be able to get off. >> but there is progress, to your point, what do youthink think? so who areha the four that you ke think are hard nosed? kevin , under any circumstances, matt gaetz would be one. >> who elsy mac gates would e? medicaid's good. i think bishop. >> he might resign, whichbishop a bishop from north carolina said. >> he said he he said he didn't mean that. he said he would eventuallyy have to leave congress, but he t wasn't saying that it just just at that moment. but listen, these guys hese guy don't have a personality problem with kevin mccarthy. they hav personaly problee a they they dt believe or trust him one way or another, whether something ing, their past or or something. they don't trust himt . the they also see a lot of upsidehen in what they're hearing fromg st constituents that they put up congfight, you know, chang, e congress and to your point, the the two hundred plus are saying
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we're going to do that. >> let me ask you this atu kn the ball. you know, washingtonow as well as anybody that i know.u and if you look at the investigations that they're all pretty much a lock. if i'm wrong, tellong, t mele. >> i look at the commitments to america. i've asked kevin repeatedly, an put it ipun writing, put his signature on it. that seems to be the agenda. >> so is this on cement? >> well, i think that there is just this fear that that there's going to be some deal that they sign on to thato doesn't come to fruition, frthat they don't deliver on everything. that's why they're trying to get it all locked down. i also think that the criticism inside from republicans who have problems one way or another with mccarthy is thane t he's really good at raising money. he's really good at recruiting candidates. recruitibut they may not be goot legislating and getting votes together. you know, the fact that, as you pointed out, that this hasn't b been allefore locked up before january 3rd, you know, we wein knew the results in november.
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it took a little bit longer f the results, butd we knew it wasth heading that wy to majority and the fact thatoki it took this long to get this negotiation started or locked in brings some criticism. k the real questionis is , say mccarthy gets thiset and he hs e may very well get ii he will be weakened by this process. and it will be tough, shawn,o dl to deal with big issues like the debt limit and other big controversial issues because of what he's giving up concession lines. >> i don't know why anybody at this point would ever want that job, butant that kevin's hanginn there, so we'll see what happens. >> i think the agenda through your hammering. >> the funny thing is , i think the two hundred and twenty twoea would actually agree on the agenda. .hat's the ironic part of it prepare special report. thank you. w all right.itmp here now with reaction. former trump white house chief of staff reince priebus, fox news contributor kellyanne conway. kellyanne, do we get to a point
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of resolution here? kel >> yes, we will . and i think there's a lot of i t negotiation and accommodation happening, but also, i wanthave' to say something i haven't heard many people say.t of i know people ar pe frustrated, donors, grassroots, all of us with this process. but let me remind everybody, it's hard. it's harder to be the party that has diverse opinions wheree people are willing to disagree a and dissent even publicly, evens painfully, as we've seen this week. week b to theall th democrats. the reason nancy pelosi won alls those times without a fighe tim is because she famously said about obamacare, you hava caree to pass the bill then to read, you know what's in it. you have to vote for me for speaker. bay they know how terrible and ruthless i'll be . i don't mindi do havinn'g this h of debate. i only wish it had happenedhappn earlier and much more behinded closed doors. that's more my styleocrats. v how many democrats voted for the trump pence tax cutss? and job zero? how many voted for aimco barrett? emily qualified goes into a congressional hearing, does
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barrg those senators can'tts vod do doesn't use a single note. zero democrats voted. how many voted for the inflation reduction act? all of them. you'rof thee dealing s the democratic party? sure. they're more disciplined? sure. they're more in lockstep. lockbecause they don't invitesae dissension and disagreement. we have peopleme who are bringig to the table very differentt id ideas, and they want to makeeas sure thaure thatt they are heare before the congress is seated. one last thing, shawn. i know many of these 20 are running around saying i'm doing this for the trump base, even i though trump is supporting mccarthy. i'm doing thisof because of my constituents. that's fair. those same constituents, though, coul ouldd be hurt if we act don't act with some alacrity. now, why? w because they are hearing nowffe from the irs, from different departments. i can't help you as a constituent because congressman elect is not yet a member of congress. they can't get security. the high security clearances ge they can't get defense and intelligence briefings and they can't help their constituents with the matters that the constituents are asking for if they don't pass a rules package as aenerat
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new congress by january 30th, a week from tomorrowe a , the staffers don't get paid. the members will always get paid, but the staffers will . so ae staffe there are some rean consequences around the corner if this doesn't get resolveds d, in the next week. >> all right. i think it's a great analysis. we'll see what happens.mer you know, right. as the former head of the rnc, chairman of the rnc, i know you've been through a number of these battles wherdo you se youe this one headed. well, i don'>>t disagree with a lot of what kellyanne said, butn the one thing i would just of th point out to everybody is that the one of the reasons we didn't d o as well in the midterms is that while 48% the public is on our side, s 48 on the democrat side, there's ad that four percent in the middle and they don't believe a thinghw we're saying. and what they're watchin t righ now is a total a and complete clown show. and it's happening day inda and day out, these group of 20 . and you just read them out all read t the rules that they got in place, their motion to vacate on oneon to va vote .
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they're seventy two hours to read the rule. i'll read the bill allad the b d stuff. term limits, i mean, you name ey it, they got everythinthg. e seo my question is ,nd well, where are the votes? the second thing is , what about the twtho hundred and onee loople that have been loyal to kevin mccarthy? what rules and committees have they gotten on to? what rules changes have they gotten from their from their loyalty at some point? lois has got to end. the one upside here is that we look at kevin mccarthy and i took note of this today. he's a happy warrior. he's doing what a speaker should do, hanging in there and fighting and in fact, clap for all of the people that arege being nominated to run against him. and get 20 votes. and so, you know, i've listened to these interviews for three days listening to thesehal group of 20 complain aboutisor r the fact that nanceey pelosi, yu know, she got rid of the motiona to vacate. well, kevin t motion, mccarthy n gave you a motion to vacate with one person. but keep in mind, nancy pelosi,o without a motion to vacate, si o
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jammed every single trillion dollar bill and democrat goodey down the republicans throats without a motion to vacate. so at some point, like now, this has this has got to end. if republicans got think that tt four percent in the middle are watching what they're seeingng e on tv and are going to reward republicans in two years, they will not. >> well, i think people's patience will run thin very quickly. sometime next week would be my prediction. right. thank you, kellyanne, as always. thank you. now, whilee th thereere is a lf discussion about the 20 housec members still opposing kevin mccarthy, i want to take a moment to focus on one ofe the two hundred members who continue to support his them earlier today, newly elected congressman, somebody we've like for a long time on thison program, john james. he nominated kevin mccarthy for and he speaker on the house floor. >> and here's what he said.re take a look. i've heard a lot of d.c.ll me politicians tellab me aboutho
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how broken d.c. is . i don't need d.c. politiciansis to tell me how broken d.c. is . the american people have already told us how broken d.c.s is by giving republicans the majority so we can fix thisg mess. we neeivend to learn how to winl yeah, we need to learn how to take a victory and whyy para kevin mccarthy's leadership. he's given us victories arthy on rules. he's given us victories on keeping costs down.ctories he's given us victories winnwith winninging a majority. i'm so proud to be a part of majority making class. >> and he's earned my trust here. with congressman elect from the great state of michigan. >> john james is with us .u. congressman elect, good to seebe you. it shoul congrd be congressman w ,but that might be a pejorative at this point. >> i don't know. good to have you back . where do you see this going? what do you know about the ongoing discussions that have been going on all day i as my understanding is , there's an actual draft ny of t agreement thathe many of the 20i of us are agreeing to it. do you know the current status
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of it? >> i can't give you any status clos in the closed door meetings because frankly, i find it ver y ironic. we've got to give me an a for effort. i'm trying. right. i mean, that's great. but al.l these people have been talking about transparency and openness and these things have been negotiated behind closed doors and in most and ofre the folks that the people sent e here to represent them are not aware of these changes. we know that kevin mccarthycart hy his taking massive strides toward lowering the debt. he's taking massive stridesfo towards changing the rules. he's taking massive strides toward making this majority. and as i said, today, he actually has since becoming minority leader in 2019 ma right now won the majority back faster, nancy pelosi. makeh and now we're in a positiony to make these changes. and the only ones holding it up are those twenty who refuse to take a win. i'm exciteited to work wd to wo with everyone to include the twenty holdouts to work forward toward conserva of america to try to fix this. goi but it'sng not going to happen s unless my colleagues come to their senses.
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>> you know, i love the phrase because i think you're right. they don't know how to tell to win here. from my position where i'm looking at things between the signed document, that is a commitment, the commitments to america, the investigationed ti have all been agreed to aheadme of time. we kno w whw what the agenda is . i think i can make a prettyt al rerong argument that all two hundred and twenty two republicans agree with the investigation part and the commitmenthe s to america apart. here and yet here we are. we can' we can't get to first pace and swear you guys into congress is nonsensical. b i mean, there'ets a thin line between discourse and discord. >> we we passed it back onnow, monday at a conference. right now, we've crossed thatbe line. we're going to cross that linegn . negotiation and extortion, these twenty beginning to extort the americanion thesee we're wasting in this biden agenda over four billionational dollars per day in our national debt right now. since tuesday, we've lost six hundred people to the opioid crisis righ the opit now,
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our borders are open. china has nuclear warheads pointed toward us and they're taking a billion and a half dollars per day per day. and our intellectual property and we're talking about things that the american people,e frankly, don't care about. >> what the american people care about is our jobs leaving ,going to mexico and chinat we with the american people carefo about are the fact that we arer not workinthemseg for them beca there are twenty holdouts who care more about their egos than they care care about the american people. we need to work forward and work together because frankly, these twenty holdouts are nancy pelosi's best friend. they are right out in concert with the democrats to stymie an american agenda. first and we cannot allow that. to continue the commitments to america. >> it' s to americas in writing. people put their names on it. the investigations, al il agreed to . >> well, it's time to get to work, in my view. congratulations. th you had a chance. yoeru had a laundry list out there. to tt the facts to the people, and now it's time for the people to decide. call if one of the twenty, if they represent you, call them l them tomorrow >> to and let your voice be heard that they need to get to work
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for you. >>or and not for any nebulous agenda out there. we need to get to work now. because the people are suffering. there's not any time to waste. democrats are winning because of our own colleagues who refuse to take a victory. well said, congressman elect, welcome . thank you. .all right. coming up, the hannity hot seat is back. also tonight, formeralso tonight democratic congressman luis gutierrez on defense over biden's disasterz se open bordes agenda. that's coming up and more as we continue
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by the way, his plan will still allow thirty thousand illegal immigrants into the country a month or so the o. why allow anyone to enter illegally? are we a nation of laws anyway,f just like clockwork? rather than be honest about the causes of the record number of border apprehensions and be honest about human trafficking,n biden decided to blame decblicas republicans. of course, the dog bites, the bee stings. tau're feeling sad. >> blame the other side. take a look.to today, i'd like to see the vice president . i'd like to talk to you about how my administration is dealing with our situation in the southwest border. gonow, these actions alone that i'm going to announce today aren't going to fix our entire immigration system, but they can help us a good deal and better managing whatber is a difficult challenge a. esos we need me. we need more resources to secure the border yet again. extreme republicans have said no. many republicans agreen, extre e should do something. bus t it's timtype te to stop lg to their inflammatory talk.
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bust et ifxtre the most extreme republicans continue to demagogue this issuei'm le and reject solutions, i'm leftfe with only one choice to actmy on my own. do as much as i can on my own to try to change the atmosphere. >> now, remember, literally four point three million>> remsb illegal immigrants across the border under biden in november alone. we saw a record two hundred and thirty three thousand seven hundred and forty illegal immigrant encounters at the southern border. thatt includdoes not include ths who crossed and are nowhered to be found. and in arizona recently, officials there, they seized 1 one point five million fentanyl pills in a single week . 's not and that's not including all the fentanyl that was not was not seized. se that continues, of course, to ravage american communities. alies all l across the country. >> enough fentanyl was seized last year to kill every single solitary american and last year, nearly one hundred people on the terror watch list were as arrestedte trying to sneak intor
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this country from mexico. joe biden has emboldened the cartels, the traffickers, mexismugglers, and bidenels, smu to stop all construction, scrapped the remain in mexico policy brought back catch and release and thee consequences have been devastating. but bide beenn officials haveng for i continued to downplay the crisis. >> here's a small samplet here >> the president could not havel been clearer in his articulation of this ioadministration's position. noo noulr could i have been clearer and continue to be so, which is the border is closed. somebody walked in to texas or arizona unvaccinated. they're allowed to stay quiet.. but that's not how it works. we actually know that that's not what you guys wantwant t to happen, but that is what would have happened.over but that's not it's not like somebody walks over and that'sxw not that's not how see what'sitt happening. the border is secure. tde securbut we also have a bri immigration system in particular oveontem in r the lar years before we came in and in
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our hanadi hot seat tonight, former democratic congressman luis gutierrez is with us .e congressman. a congre how are you? i'm sure you're glad you're nots a congressman anymore. mar-a-lago. >> well, listen, i retired four years go . i know. and i'm happy to get my social security check every month. >> i hope you get a good amount of money. i really do.of mon congratulations. look, i've read a lot about your positions and sometimes you've used incendiary rhetoric and called people racist. >> you don't even likeit the tee illegal immigrant. now, you are a former lawmaker.d we're supposed to to be a natia of laws. our constitution, every law is is rooted under our constitution. whw is y would you be againsthe' identifying people that don't respect our law? our sovereignty, our borders,got and don't go through the legal process? egal procesof entering our coun? well, i don't i call themocumen undocumented immigrants and we can choosetewe can our words, bt they need a status that
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legalizes them as actually,, if sean, if you look at my record, i introduced comprehensivehensi immigration reform with john mccain in the congress. it was the first bipartisamccai bicameral introduction of immigration reform in two thousand four. st and again, one of my biggest the allies in the congress ofe wa the united states was paul ryan . and he was an ally of right. we were allies on immigrationimi reform. he because of his catholicgratio faith. right.in and i becaus faie i believrne it fairness and justice and thatt p we shouldn't have an underclass of exploited in americaenited and that ia and we should take the undocumented, legalize them, fingerprint them, put them through a background, have them pay taxes, learn english and become upstanding, ens. outstanding american citizens. >> well, let mhad to give ase ie had to give up in orderpublic to become speaker because the republican caucus saysan c, well, we'll make you speaker,nee but you have to promise never b to bring up immigratioring un, i think. >> and so do immigration. reform. well , i think if we're goingghly cov to give highly coveted positions, if we open our borders, i think, i half
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the world would come here. if t we're going to give outo h citizenship, i really don'tk care where you come from. what i would ask forroun is a background check. rad >> so you don't have radical a e associations in the middle of a a health check. and i would also add to that we have 30 trillion dollars in debt. you've gote to to show that youe able to take care of yourself. if you're here reall, then i dot really care where you come from . but we agree country.the pr the problem is you're talkinobg about giving those highlyons to coveted positions to people that dide that not do it legal. i support legal immigration, legaation,l. >>ere's a big difference and not rewarding illegal. okay, but but sean, what we'ret trying to do is break a broken system. that's why john mccain and i join together with republicans and democrats when we could ine 2013, the senate passed immigration reform with 67 votes, 11 republicans.s, >> we would have tripled the enforcement on the border. but what was the problem??
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the problem was in the house of representatives, they said bye to john mccain because i'm sorry to to boehner. r right. they said, come on , paul ryan, but you can't bring up immigration reform, so we can't have a conversation about it. >> but look, butbout tha i readi you and i would agree with this. the conversationth thi would ine rewarding people that did not respect our laws that are ingalt the country illegally. they would get the basically basically the benefit of n, amnesty while the people that are going through the process legally, they get pu thet the bk of the line. >> that seems morally wrong to me. i'll give you the last. okay, you know what? you're right in our immigration proposal, could you stay put to the end of the line if i think this is in our immigration reform? >> no, but, john , please listen, please. >> ippf yoortuu give mnie an opportunity, i am if you look at the bill, all of the things that you say, a background check, paying your taxes, making sure you have a criminal
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background, learning english, coiting and going to the back of the line are inn refo comprehensive immigration reform. but let's face it, . there's 12 million undocumented immigrants. they have children thaundocumet american citizens that are grown up in america. >> we neederica. to fix the bro. immigration system and we need to fix. you're right, fantana. it's killing americans and the only ones that thrive, not by not fixing our broken syste immigration system are drug dealers. yoare drug dealeu and i should e agreement with that. >> no, wwie weth t found some ci ground, but i think part of it is rewarding illegal behavior. but i will say this retirementn has served you well. you have y definitelou wely, dey mellowed a little bit. i'm liking the social securityf side of you. in tay, i appreciate you being with us in the hannity hot seatl . all right. straight ahead tonight, explosive new details in the shockingosive netails in mul we'll break it down. new details with judge jeanine pirro. she will react and inform us straight ahead.
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time basketball right there. shot out of a cannon. the house you talk about play about that done better than this great econ. michigan. michigan state saturday at eleven thirty eastern on reading people is my job and my read is they are good people caught up in a bad situation. don't you tell your son if you're still alive. i wanted all of this to stop. the legal system did nothing but what are they afraid we'll find?
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>> when you can't watch, listen, get the latest news business news headlines on sirius xm anytime, anywhere. fox news on sirius xm america is listening and we have breaking news tonight in the idaho murder case. according to new unsealed filings, in the gruesome idaho murders, one of the two surviving roommates came face to face with the killer who was wearing a black mask in the early hours of november the 13th before the roommate then locked herself in a room.e and nearly eight hours later, a call wast ho placed to police to report the murders. and police also revealed that dna left on a leather knife sheath led them to the suspect. that's brian kielburger, according to the probable cause affidavit called burgher case. the crime scene was in and t and around the area and the houshe ae at least a dozen time. and today called burgeran appeared in an idaho idaho cour.
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he was ordered, held rightly co without bail. hewith more co-host of the five, judge jeanine pirro, i know you as well as anyone, and we've been friends a long time. and your passion for children and in this case college kids is second to none. this this drove your time as a d.a. so what do you make of today's developments? >> well, you know, what'sg abou interesting about this cast e is that this seems to beem exactly what peopls e alleged in the beginning, but we weren't sure this wanot sus a targetedr attack. w thatthat t there were 12 times that this guy called burger was within the cell tower area the. we don't know what that distance is just yet ofthe vi the victim's homes. we also know that the next day at 9:00 a.m., kielburger beturned to the scene of the crime before the crime wasfo even reported.
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as eve that is just classic in termss f of someone who is studyingogy. criminology. and we knoahead w ahead ofof tie before we get intois the evidence, john , is thathe s on reddit he put something out saying, you know, i'm studying for my criminology. if you were a criminal, what did you think?in how did it feel? he was collecting all of this information and so we got him casing, targeting the this homen . we founde he him returning to te weene of the crime and what we've got is an eye witness.t ia now, the eye witness who was in the home that evening said she heard crying, said she thought she heard someone say, there's someone here and she opens her door. so on three time thrs the third time, she actually sees a male 5,five , 10 or taller. he's six feet tall.he is 6'and he's got bushy eyebrows."s he's got a mask on . he's dressed all black. imagine her fear and he's she
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had heard a male say earlier, it's okay. i'm not. you're going to be okay. i'm not going to hurt you. obviously ended up killing the fourth victim at that point. he walks right by her. e is in a frozen, shocked shock state. hieds footprint in blood , as i've predicted, is on the floor in front of her room showing how he was exiting the home. now, it took a really smart to say now tone who was familiar with the area to say, now that we know this elantra i is one of the cars in question, survhey lead i tn this direction based upon surveillance of a lot of the residences, businesses, then they're probably going to washington stat y goine. you put it all together.ther, ts these cops were genius and yous know what?th they kept their mouths shut. did they didn't care whan'tt as s the public was saying. ay they didn't care. they were bein g calleds, the the keystone cops. they wery e on and they were on it. idaho state police were in thate home on november 13th, the day
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the case was reported. and of course, the crosscountry county, the cross country trip now, we know thatna the genealogical dna was used first. that's was as good as the real . there was a sheet for the nighto that was used. and on the button of that, she is male dna, which they matched to the father's garbage. uarant and we canee do that in law enforcement. but now i guarantee you they have one on one dna of brian kollberg with the victim, which is one in a trillion. so they've got to you've got to explain why your forensic dna is there. now, i want to say one morein thing. i think because the sheet is in the room with the two younggirl whgirls who were in bed togethe. i think it was kayleighd hid madison that maybe they were his first victims because he would have takes n the knife and taken it out of the sheath in that bedroom and then it was, i believe, ethn zana canoodle and ethan
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chapman. apparently zana was out of the bed. so, you know, there was some fighting there. they found her bod y not in bed,t etha but ethan's body is in the bed. the bottom line here is you've got the evidence, you've gotts law enforcement and it's best state, local, federal,al and you've got a psycho. bu, ant don'd t misunderstand m there's no there's no insanityts defense here. gthis guy is too smart for tha and he is facing the death penalty. >> well, the last thing i would say, and i agree with yourts comments about the police, everybody was saying, you know, the keystone cops are the not i. on it. they were all over it.re thi one other thing,ng the location data for kollberg phone, it actually went dead at two forty seven a.m. the night oft the murders, and it camet of back on a full t 48 a.m. on stae highway. ninety five south of moscow. idaho.idah so obviously that was doney, you on purpose. judge, i honestly you just jnai nailed this case and to
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the cops that and the lathwthat enforcement, the fbi, that sometimes in our criticism, when they do a great job, we're lucky to have them.. god . i agree. they are.we we so areluck so lucky to have. and you're right, he turned off that phone because it was smart enough to understand it wouldwol implicate him. this guyd impl is is as smart ay come in. listen, but not my kids. >> kids will shut off the phone if they if they're out laterr and they want me to know. later i know i understand that trick , but anyway, george , we appreciate it, as always. atmingk yo, ladies of the view, they're back at it with theirheo outlandish commentuts, this time coming after football and men liking football coming after yours truly. we have that coming up. ing up and and last night, i did not do well. i got a c minus from velma in vegas, so i thought wawhs a friend. apparently not. you'lla friend get the last wort tonight, straight ahead. last call coming up. rning gufor back pain.
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all right, so now on that hard s hitting abc news show, the view this week, choiceless fajar, our friend, actually politicized football, heggesting it was dangerous because straight heterosexual men , they like it. take look. look, 85% of americansiv5 think that p tackle football is appropriate. heterosexual men voted the most support for kids during football and conservatives werel more likely to support youth tackley tackle football. >> just saying, just saying.ayin all right, now, of course, they couldn't help but go after yours truly today because hostst adliss alyssa, she worked and supposedly in the trump administration, i don't don'tremember if i ever met het in oay, had this to say about
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my interview in our segment last night with lauren bobert. >> take a look at that. >> what is the big boo hoo to sean hannity?. fox news and the right wing media created lauren . that's right. shaturedfeatured her her on air. they've turned her into this star. so now she's weaponizes not power here with reaction. >> fox across america hostmm jimmy fallon, founder clay travis. jimmy boo hoo to sean hannity. >> boo hoo. i'm i'm i'm deeply offended. >> you know, i feel like a snowflake. i'm about to mel melt.t. >> it's unbelievable. let me give the viewers a little perspective here. show on the view saying you had a badinter view is like o.j. saying you had a bad marriage. nobody really cares about their opinion on the issue. if t we're being fair. nice to >> but it was nice to see whatie we get through an episode without slandering but l the holocaust. but let's be honest, sean, guys like me, you and clay like the bad guy on the view, but we should respect the fact that
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it's the highest streaming show in guantanamo bay now that youmy can't waterboard the detainees anymore. >> oh, man. that's called. >> what about the heterosexual men comment? all, i know a first of all, i know a lot of women, clay and we have frien friends, mutual friends that we know love footballw love as much as we do. so was that comment a little sexist? >> i think it was super sexist. which is why to me, we have to start using the phrase toxic femininity and it's even a little bit hard to say. they alway s want to go off on on toxic masculinity. to me, the view is a perfect example of toxic femininity and joy. let's just be honest of anybody that appears daily on television. this is a low bar because both jimmy and i are on television pretty much daily. she's the dumbest person on television by a substantial margin. i can't disagree. shm not going to debate the show on . oha snap, yeah. she has a staff of like,n like fifty people trying to keep her,
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from looking like an idiot. and yet she is clearlyn the dumbest person on the view ,the stance that she t puthat st don't even make any sense. 45% of people are in favor of tackle football. suhundred million people watch the super bowl by itself. presumably those people are okay. those people are okay with tackle footbal with tackle football. maybe she's talking about like five year old tackle football, but she didn't specify it in that clip. ti herme speak think ,i think i didn't think she could be dumber. and she is the dumbest single person on television show on toxic femininity. at its worst, joe biden shouldgi be ashamed. >> i am not going to debatg i'et the hannity house hot seat on that comment. i'm in full agreemenat t. jimmy , your take. uh huh, well, well, i will say this with all due respect to his opinion on joy, stupidity, what is so dumb?a she studied for a covid test. okay, this is not man valedictorian material over here. dictoria
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and i want to say this to sean is a guy who has spent his mar whole life watching the new york jets. i wish someone would cancel the nfl on more than one occasion, but not because of this stupid reactive, demographic laden analysis. if we're going to get into stats stats, here's another stat. the nfl is a league that's 70% black in terms of the player personnel. blacf you did cancel it, you'd be decimating the black community. think of ally do the work they b ineh the community on behalf of their charities. alli' the moneyveth the players make. don't get me wrong, i've had you talmy issues with the nfl. get butit when young talk about the analysis, you're getting out of the view this is weapons grade, stupid. this is the time you get into the view are ten dollars to get in and fifty to get out. , you know, i will tell you,i will i will admit to stupidity. >> i've been on that show a number of times. i will tell you my last appearance happened to be whenla rosie o'donnell was one of the hosts. that makes me really dumb. there's a right up there with joy clay guys. good to have you both.
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>> good to see you both. appreciate what clay. got it. okay, i hope that the view getsr canceled. >> if anybody's going to get we don't support cancel. let them do it. awful at their jobs, not because of what they say. they're awful at their job. just like you get fired if you're bad at football. that's a good point. com all right.t last when we come back , last calls next. gradi get graded. >> last night was not good. straight ahead, hello, i'm former arkansas governor mike huckabee. did you know that a lack of sleep can lead to very serious health problems? i know it's scary. you can't fall asleep or you're tossing and turning all night. you can't get the sleep. you need to stay healthy. unless you use relaxium sleep. relaxium sleep is a product that's made from natural ingredients and it usually works from the very first night you try it. it helps you to fall asleep, stay asleep and wake up refreshed, earning your body those quality hours of sleep
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misteners, barbara fro baltimore. barbara, we had velma from vegas last night. sh hade kicked the out of me ani got a c minus.nus. i hope i'm not going to get another c minus sean first. yes, first of all, ifhonore they honor that, you taked my call. thank you so much for having me on . and i just want to say this. when i heard this, when i was listening to the show, heard that bell gave me a c minus. e i'm like, what? >> the only thing i could think weout because, you know, you and i go back to 2007. g we go way back .as and my thought was, you've got to find tavarez if you're going to find your old callers, caople who called in, find tavaris, because i'd likem. to know whether or not tavaris. so i should go . >> and they he was about to have a baby. >> he wanted a caree he wanted r. he and i made a dea wl with them. hesent him to trucking school
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and he did a great d job and he killing it. all right. whatwh do i get? i got a role. what's what's the great tonight? but anywhere.way, coll, i tell you what, as far as i'm concerned, you're alwayns a you might have some issuesav that i have a problem with . and of course, with what's going on .say this but all right. i did say we got it right. oh, my god, we love you. next week, random people, not one eight hundred nine for one , sean, three to six on radio. >> laura's next.ura' have a great nights ne. this is laura ingraham and this is the ingraham angle. after eleven votes, weingr stil don't have a speaker of the house, but a high levelgh l source is telling the englisevhm angle late tonight thatngle tont kevin mccarthy is closer to peeling off at least twelvep more supporters. but that still doesn't get himo to 218.'re we're going to talk with one ogl the holdouts, congressman elect matt gaetz, in moments. >> butth first, disturbing new details about the brutal murders of four idaho college students, including who