whatwh do i get? i got a role. what's what's the great tonight? but anywhere.way, coll, i tell you what, as far as i'm concerned, you're alwayns a you might have some issuesav that i have a problem with . and of course, with what's going on .say this but all right. i did say we got it right. oh, my god, we love you. next week, random people, not one eight hundred nine for one , sean, three to six on radio. >> laura's next.ura' have a great nights ne. this is laura ingraham and this is the ingraham angle. after eleven votes, weingr stil don't have a speaker of the house, but a high levelgh l source is telling the englisevhm angle late tonight thatngle tont kevin mccarthy is closer to peeling off at least twelvep more supporters. but that still doesn't get himo to 218.'re we're going to talk with one ogl the holdouts, congressman elect matt gaetz, in moments. >> butth first, disturbing new details about the brutal murders of four idaho college students, including who in i the house sancw the suspect

and how many times the suspecte was actually in the house or around the house before the murders took place. joining me now from moscow, idaho, is fox is chief correspondent jonathan hunt. jonathan , these details are unbelievable. thgrisly and shocking to manyy americans. what can you tell us tonight? yeah, laura , they are indeed grizzly and shocking. and investigators saygato the evidencers against brian koeberg speaks volumes even as the accused killern as th himself had very little to say in court today. >> listen here. do you understan>>d thes de rigs ? yes.w go i am not going to go with the criminal complaint with you. >> as 28 year old koeberg addressed in that orange jumpsuit, listened to the charges against him. gait officials also released the probable cause affidavit

revealing the dna evidence, vehicle surveillance footage and cell phone records led them to koeberg. police say they found, for instance, a knife sheath in the house where the fourthey university of idaho students nin were stabbed to death. and onth that sheath, a dnabed o sample, which they say dt they matchedsheath a burger wit9 percent certainty after retrieving trash from the koeberg a family residence in pennsylvania. r retrievia white hyundai elanta registered to vote koeberg was also seen on surveillance video multiple timess illanc near thee the murders in the early morning hours of november 13th. early it's the same elantra. police say kobilka and his father were driving when indiana police pulled them over for a traffis c violation as the pair drove across countrya traf a month after the murders.he mo the affidavit also says koberg self phones suddenly stopped pinging cell towers aroundting the time of the murders, rding indicating, according to police, that itto may have

been deliberately turned off. but they say it did show up near the victim's house 12 times2 in the weeks, and months before the killings. according to policace, is a possible sign that h oe wase stalking one or more of the victimd plannis and planninu the killings. and perhaps more of the most chilling parra, tht of the affi was the revelation that a roommate omate of the victimsy actually saw the alleged killer having opened her bedroom door because she heard crying and acg male voice saying, it's okay, ml i'm going to help you. that roommate told police shetod saw a man who was dressed entirely in black and wearing a mask walking towards her. s shhue hurriedly shot and locked her bedroom door. the man left the building. police say that man was brian koeberg laura .know jonathan , i know it's been a long day for you. thank you very much.

tonight, and as jonathan just said, this was just a wild tale that we learned in this affidavit, something that we had never heard before. that one of the roommates of the victims actually crossed paths with the murderer. now,nt to the extent that she could reveal that what he looked like, he said she saw bushy eyebrows, that he waswearn wearing a mask. mask response, we noticed today, is being trashed all over social media because after seeing him, she as brian juste s ran back into her room, shein locked the door. >> joining me no w is jonathan gilliam, former fbi special agent brian foley, former homicide detectivean, formerharo hartford chief of detectives. >> brian , i'm trying to think about this for a moment. you know, it's the middle of apn the night. there are people apparently coming in and out of this houste a lot. i think they left the door open of the house a lot. and now people, in retrospect,

with 20/20 hindsight, are judgin g the harshest way.way, t this roommate for having close the door and locked the door at the time. is there such a thing as being paralyzed with fear if you're y victctim or a potential victimou of a crime? absolutely. >> but first, let me make one thing clear . there is only one person to bele vilified here, and that's the monster that killed thosed l fourled th people hard stop rigt there to vilify this witnessnes is is wrong. look a t you don't know how you're going to react inas p certain situations as cops. we train for i. t and we wef so many scenarios and we think h of how we're going to react. the average person you don't know how you're going to react.t yohe su don't know the scenario. you just perfectly describedmove what that house was probablynt like. the movement after hours youa fo had you had an uber or a fooddrf drop off at 4:00 a.mf . fromgoi a door dash.on there's a lot going on there. i , i know witnesses that have lived with this, and it is an

awful, awful thing to live with for the rest of your entire life. and i feel bad that she's in that scenario. it's horrible that it's so easy to judge and we all say how weer would react. >> bottom line, you don'e gointw how you're going to react. there's one bad guy in thise ba situation. he's behinguy d bars. >> and jonathan, a vap shop employee. this is another detail that weoh learn had several interactions with the victims. >> revealed something rather disturbing as well. fiv >> watch this.s four or five girls at most all the time they come in together. and i made a joke about it earlier. it was like, you know, c cominoe together and stuff like that, you knowe , just i see you guys trying to stay safe . and one of the more orng les tos openly that's. oh, yeah, we'vste haalked a frif ours be stalked before. so thi s is kind of why we all travel in a group like this. maddie said it and it is kind of like my mentioning, like, motioning to kayleigh to liketor who is right nex. t to jonan again, we're just learning

about this and more details. but did you ever think that this was a , quote, random attack of someone who had never met or never come into contact with any of these individuals? did you ever think that? well, i mean, ted bundy showed that that can happen. and in fact, he did randomlyhapp go up to severalen people t and kill or attempt to kill people.r at so it caten happenmpt to kil. you have to remember of thesers people are hunters, bu t i thik in this case, what the evidence shows is that he was very interested in that neighborhood. is specifically where thatg st house was on king street, leading uprethat tim to that tiu and i want to i want to sayg, ta one other thing. things about this whole thint cg that comes back to what youet se were just talking aboutut with these internet sleuths. these are the people that predominantly go after individuals online and they vilify people. and it's a very copemahan realiy . it's a very like a hivelt men mentality. ta, a hivewhere they pounce on and what this young lady didze

when she got froze in the way wr this worked out, sheked actually disrupted this individual's attack. i believe, and then he left. i and who shnde could have beenn e the next victim had she not come out there and startled him. soxt he not the way these thingk out and the way these these psychopathic killers work, that's just the way that they are. can be they're they're they're very aggressive, but they can be startled, very easy. and i wouldn't be surprised if we find out that this guy hasw t killed multiple people. we know that he stalked people or was at least going to a puby or a brewery there in pennsylvania. e and was asking bizarre questions of women. so we know that he has a pattern of this behavior. brian , why do you think that the police well, they allowed people, again, to trash lawle aa enforcemenint, speaking of trashing people, i mean, law enforcement was being dragged

through the mud because people thought, why don't you have law enforcement was dragged a suspect? it went on for some time, but it does demonstrate, does it not, the methodical nature necessarily. of putting together a solidsusp case againstec a suspect. that's what happened here. so as as painful as beginning part of the warrant is in. you actually relive the crime, the the as the cop reading through the arrest warrantg after that for a four yeare arre cop , an medium sized policehi department out there, this is one heck of a warrant.k i know w we had big brother helping him write the warrant, but this is an amazing investigator and very tight. and the the police cops aren'tss in the busines os of naming suspects. they're the they're in the business of arresting people and convictin arresting g them. and i know how frustrating it is . and they did. i think, a decent job of really keeping the confidence of the entireent jo country as to,. know, they communicated as much as the cated asy can and they a knew something. and they did tipfew their hands a few times. conference. some the press conference, there was a captain that said they were narrowing

down and somebody probably abouthey w t three weeks ago and that told me it's coming. it wa he's he was confident that it was going to be an arrest. >> so they also have to keep the victims families confident in their investigation. and that is very difficult to do. family coninvestion. the fam. it's the worst time in anyone's life, as you can imagine. e, so i think they did a good jobbf in maintaining confidence and they were holdings cl their cards close to their chest. this is a cat and mouse game. it rest .in'tabout >> it's about convictions. and that's why they're going after. >> jonathan o'brien, thank youhf so much tonight. great to see both of you . l f theand despite all these detai that we got today from this affidavit, questions thi stillld swirling tonight, like didid? the killer say anything else? did his parents really have no idea that he was involved?nv olved in any criminality? and why were some people in the house spared? others were not, obviously. how familiar was with suspect with the victims? >> joining m e now is john kelly , expert criminal profiler who's interviewed numerous serial killers,

including john wayne gacy. now, john , there was a witness to this. again, the roommate who saw the murderer as he was walking down the stairs. he walked right by her and presumably as he was leaving, which leads a lot of people to wonder why did he leave her? why why didn't he get rid of a potential witness against him? >> why would tha t be ?>> i yo tu know, i think he was inheu a rush to get out of the housese floor. usually with these types of killers at a certain point. don't forgetn point,, he's tirel he's killed a number oe f people already at this point. at thitime, maybe something scag to him. and he just wanttss to put hihimself between him and the bodies as quick as possible. he just wants to get out of dodge as fast as he can. and he just felt that might be more risky. it definitely it was definitely something that he felt was in his favor. he was dressed in black and a

mask on . you know, i think he just he just had his fill for tonight, wanted there was too risky form him. >> a couple of other interesting details. his sister appeare d as acharace character named laurie in this 2011 film called two days back . it was a horror flic k. s wh it was about a group of young students who go hiking in these remote woods. ng iand meet their their grislyd at the hands of this maniacal killer who's won their trust. and from everything that we've heard about the scene of this crime, john , it was horrific. >> without we don't know alle the details, but it waslice w horrific. i mean, the police were visibley shaken who arrived at the scenem . is there something i in the culture of what people are are marinating in today that could be adding to thethat c depravity of these theseou

murders? >> well, it's certainly alwaysw possible. f violence all i mean, there's plenty ofjust violence all over. if you just want putre going on the television set, you're going to see violence in a lot r of differentent pl places. r ofjust really believe that this type of person, you know, just t has this volcanic rage inside that's going to explode on his victim of choice. and i think that goes without saying they all have differenta types of victims. and , you knowfere, usuallnt tyt underneath it alh l is a lot of. rage. that and of course, they wat to control and dominate l d dothe victims. >> and it's usually through detaence. and there's another detail,befoe john , before we let w you go , about his cannibalistic tendencies, he had a bizarre approach to eating. forensic psychiatrist said that he reported compulsive obsessive compulsive eating

habits indicating he was afraid he'd be addicted to meat if he ate it. and it represented his strugglet against his cannibalistic urges . i mean, thisca is justalis a fr show, central. >> yeah.tral freak this is a freak show. you're absolutely right. i mean, i don't know what i'm going to hear next. right again, you w never know what you're going to your bottom line is when you look at obis obsessive compulsive behavior, if you look at every,v serial killer and we've donerc research on this, you will finhd that they have some type of obsessive compulsive behavior. and like dahmer, cannibalism is up for grabs. what can happen, jon? great to see you tonight.k you thank yofou so much for your expertise on this. and we'll check back with you next week. up we'llbreaking new details in the fight for speaker. a source is telling the anger. magal tonight that mccarthy is closer to peeling off a significant number of votes. while i talk to one of

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not two hundred, not two or five . no t to sixteen. >> it's to eighteen. the tellers agree and their tallies that the total number of votes cast is four hundred and thirty for the honorablehona kevin mccarthy of the state ofbl california. has received two hundredf th and three.e jim jordan of the statste of ohd has received twenty . by the state off 2 florida has received twenty . kevin mccarthy of the state of california has received two hundred and one with one member as present. well, donald j. trump of the state of florida has received one . kevin hearn of the state ofkevi heoklahoma has received to no member elect having receivedtest a majority of the votes cast speaker has not been elected.e n >> that house stands adjourned until noon tomorrow, and samantha fox, my senior

producer, receives a vote from me. okay, well, you need 218. that's the number you need. if you want to be speaker ofr, the house, i could be fewer. technically, if membersif vote present or other members floor for me are absent from the floor for reas, tedical or other reasons but whatever you think of the freedom caucus, for o opposing kevin mccarthy or whatever you think of mccarthy's record , in the end, this is a numbers game. a nu mccarthy, you could argue and people have arguing that has had months to muster the voteo s needed. afd after three days of voting, he came up twenty shy and that was eleven votes. now, the numbers still aren't budging. and as for mccarthy's opponents,as well, they claim that they're standing on principle. and i understand their points. but they don't yet have an alternative. who himseleyf or herself can gather the requisite two hundrer thd eighteen either. that's where we are.so this so this process is messy. and kind of don't want to look at it at times, but it is whateu

it is . the republican party is not est a monolith. it has establishedment types. it has populists and some moderates. >> there are three scenarioscall basically that are possibly, te that one , the freedom caucus basically take mccarthy concessions as a win and enough of them support him for speaker number two. mccarthy could withdraw and allow another candidate for speaker to be proposed, one who presumably could get 218 votes.e we'vt 21e heard a number of peol people's name mentioned. steve scalise is one of them.e' ot stevebut others could emerge as well.ould there's a third scenario emerge moderate and establishment republicans could strike a dea l with democrats whereby mccarthy or another m republican actually gets to be called speaker.ntial but essentially, both parties share power on the committees. now, the third possibility, a lot of people say it'sobably i

far fetched, never going to happen and probably is far fetched. buchedt tht the folks opposing y ought to realize that they are playing with fire here. and you have to think of it this way. vony odid any of them when theye campaigning promised the voters that in the event that they hade the majority in the house, they would willi be willing to n power over to the democrats ifay they didn't get their way int sg a number of points? i'm not saying the points aren't important, but i don't, n campk they campaigned on that, t even though they campaigned aigned on pron principle. and what do they think the voters are going to say, and gh, if that is what happens in the end? and at some point, ie f this go on day after day after day, there may be other problem s. and i'm talking seriousamed f problems that the republicans could get blamedor for, somethiv that the democrats and some issue. s have started to hidt is that this might be a national security issue. if you loo ou lk in your constitution, the first officer that's mentionedr for e the united states is the speaker of the house.

the speaker of the house is th e you have constitutional officer for this branch of government. you have democratsocrats to and republicans who are sae can'tge say, wait, w get briefings on important things that we need to talkn if about. what would happen if there the to be a crisis? >> that's a problem. look, no one has been more critical of the establishment gop than i've been in december. i t ofde time.time, you alyol remember it, to exposing the waste, fraud and abuse. and the one point.7 tri seven trillion dollar omnibus bill that senate republicans voted follr and issues from that ridiculous infrastructure compromised immigration to china trade. i've been battling to establish enforcers on capitol hill for fr decades and also whether we hadn a republican president that went on for years and years. but congressman bob good couldn't have articulateded the conservative populist position on all of this any better crisis after crisis. thirty two trillion dollars inae

national debt. >> and we just spent one point seven trillion dollars. s both parties, republicanshe joining in the senate, a few in the house to pass a one point seven trillion dollar omnibus spending bill .av we have got to have a leader who who not only has true conservative convictions that reflect a majority of republicans who sentect the f r, but yet a courageous leader. >> courage. yes, that's in short supply in h washington. but one also has to as tkon o the question of how you get from point a to point b , how is stopping mccarthy move the needle toward america? firs toward t solutions. >> the way to advancecaus the populist cause is totand. get more power to elect more members, not to grandstande . and you get concessions. absolutely. but iflyt if y youou get the cs ,then you still oppose in the the person who is giving you the concessions. what does it all mean in

the end? to a lot of folks, it alllook begins to look unserious atriou a time when weat need a very serious approach to real worldth problems. but there's a good newe's s stoy out there as well, because we saw what works. pres can work. president trump showedpuli us populist policies. yeahst, put into motion. they're successful. he delivered peace. he delivered prosperity. wages were up. .. nd regulations were cut the border was secure. there were no new wars.. and china was held accountable. that was serious stuff. it all worked. president trump won more votesny than any republican presidentia republil, candidate in history., and right now, tonight, he's urging the freedom caucus to take the win and support mccarthy. so i don't think any of the republican holdouts campaigned on a platform thatd included turning power overrema to the democrats, which tonight remains a distinct possibility. principled disagreements. yos? u bet they exist.

i have a lot of them with the establishment and i'm as frustrated as anyone is about the spending. it's , but none of this thi gets any closer to reining it in or holding biden accountable or frankly, investigating the covid cartel, which we desperately need to do. and as for mccarthy, let's p remember this. if the party w hadon won more se ,he probably would have had an easy time sailing into the speakership. but despite the huge sums ofise money that he helped raise forp red wave. so, here we have. the party, there wasn't a red wave. so here we are. >> and that's the angle when donald trump was president , taxes were cut, regulations were slashed, energy was>> abundant. wages were rising and the economy was roaring. i i nominate president trump because we must makenomi our country great again. >> and he can start by making the house of representatives great again. reall right. joining me now, florida n congressman matt gaetz.

who has voted 11 times for h candidates other than mccarthy. congressman, great to see you tonight. i love seeing you, by the way, with congressman paul . what were you talking about there? i love seeing thatn jayapa vide. any scoop you can give us that was like, what? what arewhat they talkin ag abo? my conversations with democrats have largely been about making fore that they don't leave the floor for dinner orr fundraisers or whatnot. there we need them to stay there so that the denominator inf the equation on the election of a speaker allows us to have the leverage to push for many of we' the things we've been discussing on the budget, on term limits, on the really the order of the house of representatives. so committee assignments and chairmanships aren'tas bougt and sold based on who's ableo'sb to redistribute the most lobbyist money while the american people are often left behind and a corrupple art broken system in congress. yeah, i thinksy that your point about rushing off to events with consultants or rushs is important.

i saw there was a fundraising email sent out by andy biggs,gs who's one of the other individuals, of course,ls oppos mccarthy. he sen opposing mccarthy, and he sentrr a fundraiser out as the action was happening. wason the floor, saying, we blk kevin mccarthy from becoming speaker of the house. mcng speakbut now we conservatid lead the fight to get the leadership. we deserve. congressman gates, is that congressman gaetz, is that the the right? rie loe congressman biggs, but is that the right approach? ve cgiven your message about dou run out to the fundraisers? i e well, i just wanted to makere po sure people stayedploor. on the floor. i've sent out similar emails y and the reason is because pro mccarthy groups have actually been running robo calls in our districts, trying to pressure us and leverage us . so, yes, when you have kevin mccarthy utilizing his extensive political resources to battle against house conservatives, we want the great patriots all throughout this land to go to matt gates, .com chipin so that i can fight back and get a message out about the great things that we are working to achieve.

and it is not the end ofe messag the world that we take a few extra days or maybe even a couple of weeks to sort this out. i mean days or w, laura , this e some days in congress where the only thing we vote ohing wna changing of the name of one post office. one secondeciding who's in line to the presidency and the construct of these rules, concessions functionally term the speakership into a ceremonye speap to a or posit matter of fact, if my colleagues get what they want from mccarthy, eagues the chairman of the freedom caucus will actually be more important thaney the speaker ofo the house in determining the legislation that reaches cal floor. how amendments are processed and how spending occurs goinges forward.s and i get way, you know, on on the establishment issues. i'm totally with you, okay? but i'm always also about the art of the possible what's possible here. so you did at a number ofession concessions that i'm not sure.sf if i were on the other side, otr i would given you. but a number of concessions from mccarthy, an attemptget to to get to 218. so he lowered the threshold of

the votes required to begin the process of removing himselp . mee speaker just one person, one member of the conference can do it now.it nowand to keep he also agreed to keep his own pac out of gop primaries and also to add more freedom caucus member ms to the house rules committee. and i understand he alsoed signd on to a separate approval process for earmarks and allowed floor vote s on termislati limits for members and specificn border policy legislation. what else do you require that he do or agree to before matt gaetz will say, okay, i'm on board? >> i wouldn't be betting on my vote for kevin mccarthy under almost any circumstance, but it'swill important to note thatl >> ihose votes just hold on . hold on , hold on .n't lo okhold on , hold on , wait. that's personal. then youthat's made this very principled point. no, no. you can't have it both ways.u mt you can' t say i am. d i'm a man of principle and i, believe in x, y and z.and and if he gives me x, y and z, i'm not going to vote for him.

well, here's no, no, sense.ense here's how i t makes sense. laura , kevin mccarthy is the masthead of the lobby core. and i resent the extentsent to which kevin mccarthy utilizes the lobbyists and the special interests to be able an to dictate how political decisions are made, how policy decisions are made and howde. leadership decisions are made. kevin mccarthy has bee bn inee the leadership for 14 years and he has sold shares of himself to special interests, to political action committees . >> swhy i o that's why i don't k he is an appropriate choice. he also has no ideology. y >> what's that? is th whaty is trump what? i mean, you are very i mean, i love i .is t yes.rump why is it why is trump forum? ut i mean, how many how many posts on truth social can we see from president trump telling you alle this is this has been fun. s wrapfun, it upe pres here. well, i love trump. ayid aent trum::y ay is h. i love president trump. i defended him a great deal in congress, but h.r. wasn't always his strong suit. president trump got folks like

jeff sessions and bill barr and jim mattis and mark esper, people who didn't always advance america first policy. well, i think that is visioncy. that i do. i think president trump>> i is wrong to the extent that hee supports kevin mccarthy. i'm going to supportg if support president trump if he or when he runs for reelection in twenty , twenty four . bur elt i'm not going to back hm on this play. >> so, look, ira:: arf we are e to get you, are you going to bey okay, congressman? will you be okay then?oue if there's ultimately a deal struck with moderate democrats that give democrats kind ofat control the committees, you're fine with that? no, absolutely not . that will not happen. there's two potential scenarios are too. but that's what is here. no, listen, i'm on the floor. laura , these two hundred and twelve democrats are going to vote for hakeem jeffries everm jeff time. y single time. he is a historic candidate for them. they are not goingthey'r to clee off under any circumstance.go i assure you thaint if democrats join up to elect a moderateif republican , i will resign from the house of representatives. that is how certain i am.a resi i can assuregn your viewers that won't happen. are you okay for you?

know, steve there, too?l, well, that depends on if he if-t he would accept these rules that we've spent a lot of timeto on . so we'd have to have tha htave h at discussion with steve scalise.w so far , steve scalise hasn't indicated that he would run. i would i would far prefer jim n >> and if kevin mccarthy pulls the race, i do. yeah, i do expect jim jordan top to mount a campaign. oh, well, he isn't running yet. if if look, if kevin mccarthy got out of this race, and jim it jordan would get down to it,nd l that's my belief. and i believe jim jordan would h win. i think he would invigoraten our movement. i think he's broadly trustedeveo every corner of the republican party and with a lot ofsuppor our donors and supporters and activists. thn if the type of optio kevin mccarthy is out, ifout, kevin mccarthy doesn't bow out, then he will have to livhave tec the entire speakership in a straitjacket constructedkehe by these rules that we're working on now. >> lu prefer a speakerho with a straight jacket thaneve one who you believise is just to spend arama, right. >> i, i prefer a straight chat with kevin mccarthy.

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everybody's been wondering for longer. >> cut your this whole hasn't it undercut the power of the . but it was used over john boehner. so why would he pu i'mt relaxium 1859? i mean, doesn't that9, inherentu mean that, you know, you could only be a weaker w speaker? >> joining me now, charlie hurt, washington times opinion y editor, and mollie hemingway, editor in chief atralist. the federalist. both are fox new s contributors charlie, look, this has been kind of tough to watch, and i'ms trying to do a glass half full onre because i do think there are principled points to bese made and ones that you and iy and molly have made timeimmigr and again about spending, immigration, chinaat , trade, all this stuff. but what about the precedent that this sets? justwh set up a speakership whi is weakened and whichwhan is debilitated. is that a problem ord debited. overstated?

i think it is t overstated . obviously, it's going to bdiffi difficult. it's going to be very difficult for mccarthye to govern underai any circumstances, given the narrowness of his majorityer ,the fact that we have control, he has control ofof thh the house and democrats stills h control the senate and the white house and thee. bu t i think, honestly, the overall fight is a very i think it's a very good thing. i think it's a very it's a cleansing argument. it's out in the open. it's democracy. it reminds a o me a lot of in a lot of ways of the twenty6 pr sixteen primary where itim was, it was scalding, honest, and that marvelous interview you just did with matt gatesu di a minute ago, it was blazinglyat honest and it was and it wastes pointing out the problem aisinglywith this place, whichsc is spending and this whole debate is about spendinge and it's the entire debate is happening on the republican side. reican sidand the democrat parto dishonest and so corrupt. t they don't they're not even a part of the debate because they refuse to acknowledge thatn

spending is destroying this country. and sog ng this y. i still y ends up pulling it out. and when hese does, this is a baptism by debate and he's going to be a much better speaker. and and i think republicans ares going to be better because of this scaldin sg nasty and atertn times entertaining. but but but alt but also a little bit worrisome debate. >> well, molly, i have to say, the establishment really has no one to blame but itself fort its what it's done and what's whated it's agreed to , that infrastructure bill that that senator cassidy and mcconnell and shelby and all of them agreed to a year and a half ago. and then the omnibus bill thatd they're all celebratintheng in kentucky. i mean, thisucky - is obscen- tl that did bringl it on . i mean i mean, this is what caused all thi ds. ch >> i do think that the behaviorr sq mitch mcconnell and other uisquishy senate republicans inb helping democrats with their big spending agenda after theset

midterm elections does w contribute to what we have now. and i do understand that this is a little disconcertinthgs fa to have this kind of fight. but really, what's far morealth embarrassing than a healthy ruls debate about who should be speaker and what the rules ldt thershould be is that therea never a debate in the senate about who should leadat the republicans on , you know,te in that body after a couple rounds of failure from the current leader, mitch mcconnell. i'm actually pretty glassletely completely full on this debate that we're havin f g. i think kevin mccarthy has done a really good job of trying to build consensus and continue to build support for a speakership, but also these cn 20 conservatives have shown how you can get things done, evenn't when you don't havet fh a majority, you know, as they don't have enough to pickanges who they want forto their speaker. but they do want these rulesfuni changes to helonp have a much more functioning congress. if you think t congress has beee operating well for the last several years, you should just want the speakerbate. to be -

without any debate if you thinko it could be improved. and i think a lot oft of americs desperately want it improved. a lot of these rule changes will help contribute to a better body of republicanss and some constraints that will help them pass better legislation. aofl, i want to move to couple of different topicsopic really quickly. >> corey, bush made one of the most ridiculous comments abouf tht byron donald, who obviously was was nominated, as speaker and voted for by ate few people. a now, he's no few t a saying that he's not a candidate, historic candidate for speake r. he's a prop. she said despite being black,bl he supports a policyac agenda intent on upholding and perpetuating white supremacy. o his name being in the mix is not progress. it's pathetic. ix ischarlie, when in doubt, the left smears conservative. minorities. they do it every time and it's just shows that, again, just- a few racists that the last racists in america, caribou's bush is a disgusting woman.

coriisgustinyou know, black cons on capitol hill are open seasone to these people. they havope no shame whatsoever. it is so disgusting.easo and the only reason that they treat them like this is because they're african-american. and that is the definition of racism. corey bush is a racist and she's a disgusting racist. >> that made me sick.you both t molly and charlie, great to see you both tonight. whthank you. when we come back , a breaking news update on damar hamlin in moments. do you have too much body fat? it tends to accumulate on your stomach, hips and thighs. are you struggling to lose weight? does it seem like no matter what you do, you just can't get rid of excess body fat? body fat builds over our midsection, body fat increases for lack of exercise and poor diet. the obesity research institute has found the solution.

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during the season with some of the top football players in the country, pro football layers iplayers in the country.a if they hadn't been on the football field, many ofdl them coming from difficultckgrou happened to their safety and d happened to their safetynfl? and well-being? have they not been in the nfl? >> gknow, it's good to see you, too, laura . t oo, laand it's clear that the football is such an cultu important part of our culture and it's taken such a major role in helping provide opportune and financial benefit to a whole group of people that would never have had that opportunity. we saw a big problem right in front of our eyes when when these programs at the schoolscho level had to bole shut down during the early stages of covi d and we participate very heavily in school projects, athletic programs for the inner

city schools here in los and we angeles. and we know that whe kn these kids don't get a chance to to play a sport, oftentimesan they're they're not going to be' going to school. and if that's the case, thene they could fall prey to a whole myriad of things. haarare detrimental to their li. so, you know, the the benefits that football has provided p far outweighs the cost ing this the risk of playin sg a sport. you know, i wanted to make a special mention along happe with this to what we sawn happn on monday night. you know, you saw an amazingw ag performance by the medical staffs on both sides, on the bills and the bengals, and being able to revive and bring back a great playero who who was and revive him from death. you saentew a very talented grop of athletic trainers and physicians and all of these people, their their education

and their their dedication to the sport, these talented people. kongregate at these nfl games and also in college games, the same same types of people, same talent. and this is ans an indication o the dedication that the nfl and the ncaa has to be able i to provide increase in safety, the health and safety for their players. and so, yoe ofu know the s, ones the safest places you can be , quite frankly, if you have a catastrophic event like you saw happen, is on an nfl football field, literallya -- 30 yards from you there.ere's ha there's there's half a dozen people that can save your life. dr. so inspiring on so many levels, damar hamlin personal story, his devotion to the almighty and the medical professionals and the teammates and the fans all together prayinall togeg. , than drk . al-atrash, thank you so much for your expertise and bein g with us tonight. >> we appreciate it.

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