>> laura: okay. ken buck and gaetz, i believe if i heard it right, both voted for mccarthy. sam, am i right there? gaetz voted present. all right. trace gallagher. it's hard to hear i have a lot of people in my ear. trace gallagher takes it from here with the latest coverage and we're going to keep it going. we'll see what happens. ♪ >> good evening, everyone, and welcome to america's late news. we are watching right now the vote tabulation. if you missed it matt gaetz just voted present, that is two present, four for others and it now comes down to these remaining votes. let's listen in very quickly. >> carter of california. >> jeffries.

>> david scott. >> effries.

>> so here's the thing you can see the tally chart on the right-hand side. we are making sure everybody has voted. we believe the magic number is 217. as you see right there kevin mccarthy has 216. when they start another roll call we will go back to that immediately but in the meantime let's bring in our chief congressional correspondent chad pergram chad do we appear to be one vote short. >> that's right. this is why it always takes a while at the end because you have the tellers, the tally clerks in front of the chamber they are going through manually and comparing notes and making

sure that everybody has the same numbers. let me do a deep dive right now. so this is where we stand. okay. so remember that the speaker must win an outright majority of all members casting ballots for somebody by their last name. okay? so the present votes do not count. the present votes do not count. so if you -- >> laura: chad can we pause? because i think we have matt gaetz and kevin mccarthy speaking on the floor. let it's dip in we'll come back to you momentarily. hold on. >> >> apparently we do not have that go ahead and continue and we'll get back to thats a soon as they start speaking. >> here's the issue, and at this point there's nothing else in order no debate. either somebody's goat to vote or they're not. right now the way we have it is 216 for mccarthy 212 to jeffries

that's 428. then four members voting for somebody else by name, this is the algebra that's 432, 432 means you need 217. kevin mccarthy is one vote shy if our tally is correct here, 216 and that appears to be the case on the house floor because they seem to know that. so if he can get matt gaetz to vote for mccarthy by name, that would give him 217. the same with lauren boebert. note that they are sitting close together. now what might happen is this he could hold this vote open as long as they want. we're an extra parliamenttary turf. they might gavel it down, go to an adjournment or go to another roll call vote, that's what they need to do by rule. i am told they need to consult here a little bit and see which way this is going to go. but, again, this is why the mathis so crucial.

it comes down to a single solitary vote. this vote was on the razor's edge. kevin mccarthy picked up significant steam here over the night. but he's not there just yet. so let's see how long they let this vote sit open and can they convince one of the other members who voted for somebody else by name, eli crain, bob goode, you get the idea here, or can they pry loose to get somebody like lauren boebert or matt gaetz to vote for mccarthy by name. he needs one vote, comes down to a solitary vote by name. >> laura: you know more this than anybody but i want to go through these numbers again to make sure we are exactly clear. so we are told when you vote present it lowers the threshold. the magic number was always 218. it lowers the threshold if one person votes present the magic number becomes 217. if two people vote present the magic number we were told comes down to 216. now we're seeing two people have

voted present and that kevin mccarthy has 216 votes and yet he is not the speaker of the house. so clearly a vote in favor of mccarthy outweighs a present vote, clear. >> yes, and isn't that interesting because what you could conceivably do and again sometimes this is going to be some very interesting mathematical and parliamenttary gymnastics is maybe you ask people to go away not vote or sit on their hands. you might have democrats who are absent. i was given a hand signal before we came on the air that we might thought it was not going to go the way they thought it would go, that it would be short. all the democrats continue to show up. if they thought a democrat would be absent that would probably help them. that lowers the bar. but also if you were to have a couple of republicans be absent. but i would suspect now there's going to be a pressure campaign and you can watch the visual on the house floor, people surrounding lauren boebert and

matt gaetz as well to see if they can get them loose. that's going to be a real issue here and we might sit in this for a while. >> this is high drama if you will stand by let's bring in fox news chief political averager bret baier you're watching the drama with us. you can see people various lawmakers walking up to matt gaetz and see him giving him the sell, the last minute sell here because we had thought a little earlier that 216 might, in fact, be the magic number and now we're told, no, it's 217 and so it could all come back around to whatever matt gaetz or lauren boebert might vote if there's a second chance. >> yeah. you're looking at them and they are getting a pressure campaign. the reason i keep putting on my glasses is because i have people on the floor texting me, some information about what's happening and basically' short spurts of phrases but getting hot in here is one of them.

and there is a lot of pressure on the two presents. the four others. they need to either -- one of the others to vote present or one of the presents to vote for mccarthy and they are one vote away from making kevin mccarthy the next speaker of the house. otherwise this process again starts again and we head to a 15th ballot likely and i bet you that that would happen tonight. now, you could look at matt gaetz, and he's arguing about something. on hannity earlier tonight he was very, kind of assuming that this is going to happen, saying that he fought the good fight and that he changed the rules and that he thought that the 20 of them were doing the right thing by voting present he came off of the anti mccarthy vote and said he's present. but now they need one of them to change their vote to get mccarthy across the finish line and you can see every member, one by one, going up to talk to them. >> and it's amazing to me bret

because it was only hours ago matt gaetz was saying if you want to drain the swamp the last thing you want to do is put the biggest alligator back in there all week. we interviewed him on our show and he said no. no, no, no, i'm not going to vote mccarthy. he voted present. i want to go through these bret to find out any surprises. we had ken buck a question mark he voted for mccarthy. we had matt gaetz who voted present, lauren boebert voted present. andy biggs voted for jordan, bob goode voted for jordan, eli crain voted for andy biggs and matt rosendale voted for andy biggs. any surprises you thought going into this that one of those people might have voted present or for kevin mccarthy? because they stuck to their guns. >> they did. crain was one that i was told was possibly going to vote present. the other three were kind of never kevin, in the never kevin crowd and we're not going to vote for mccarthy one-way or

another and they didn't think they needed them. ken buck just flew in and he missed the first time that he was named but he made it to the chamber and he voted when they called his name. wes hunt, his child is in nicu, just born, newborn child, he flew in from texas leaving his family so he could vote. so they got those two extra votes that they didn't have before for mccarthy. but this has to change, otherwise this is a no. this would be 14th ballot denying mccarthy. and then, you know, you have to hold everyone together. the other thing, trace, is that this is so delicate because mccarthy and the allies gave a lot of concessions about how this place is ruled and run. chad's talked about it very well throughout the night about the rules committee. well, the moderates and people who have been with mccarthy from the very beginning say hey, wait a second. don't give up the ranch here. you know, we have to make this

place work for everybody. so you can see the circle of lawmakers around gaetz and boebert and so far there's no movement. we're waiting on the official word, the official tally and that will come out when the clerk makes that announcement. >> it's interesting bret because earlier on sean hannity you had matt gaetz saying listen i couldn't think of anything else to ask for making it appear that kevin mccarthy really did give up the ranch to get those final votes. >> yeah. and what we've heard so far, the plan was was that this was going to be smooth, that the plane was going to land, that they were going to get mccarthy's the speaker's gavel and then they were going to move on to the rules package. that could be a little stickier because, from what we've heard, it's not all in stone as far as written down what they have promised behind the scenes. and that may be part, you know, that may be problematic voting on the rules package. but they've got to get the

speaker first. >> yeah. and i'm sure if chad pergra.m. is still with us, eric is he with us? i want to switch back to him. chad give us an idea there's some lobbying going on on the floor and there's a pressure on both lauren boebert and matt gaetz. give us an idea of how this revote goes where people can actually change their votes. can they do that before they move on to the 15th round chad or do they have a chance to do it right now? >> yeah, this vote is technically still open. they have gone through the entire roll and much like any other roll call vote, until they close the vote, you can change your vote. you can always change your vote. you know, voting for a bill, voting for an amendment, voting for a speaker. so until cheryl johnson, the clerk of the house, announcing the total, bangs the gavel and says, you know, a speaker has not been elected, meaning you haven't crossed that threshold, in this case you need 217, this vote is still open. and i have seen them sit there

on certain roll call votes, a legendary roll call vote just before thanksgiving back in 2003, went for almost three hours started on a saturday morning at 3:00 in the morning and they were working, the democrats were trying to get a bill passed, the republicans were working on a medicare related bill and there was one member, david woo at the time, a democrat from oregon, who would not vote. he just sat there. and there was a similar campaign of members around him. i've seen this play out on the house floor before. so i've never seen it play out for speaker, of course we haven't been in this posture since 1923, maybe more specifically 1859 when they went to 44 votes. of course the record was 133 roll call votes in 1855 and it bled into 1856 because it took them two months to figure it out before they voted for nathaniel banks we're not dwight there but if they don't get this worked out it will go to a 15th vote. so we might sit in this cry 0

genic freeze but i hear cheryl johnson the clerk wrapping the gavel. >> let's listen. >> agree in the tallies that the total number of votes cast is 432 of which the honorable kevin mccarthy of the state of california has received 216. [cheers and applause] the

honorable hakeem jeffries of the state of new york has received 212. [cheers and applause] the honorable jim jordan of the state of ohio has received 2. the honorable andy biggs of the state of arizona has received 2. no member elect, having received a majority of the votes cast, a speaker has not been elected. >> we now adjourn until monday on monday lfrjts the gentleman repeat his motion? >> i move the house do now

adjourn until noon monday. >> the question is on the motion on adjourn. all those in favor? >> no. >> no. >> no! [shouting [ [ >> the ayes have it. >> all those in favor say aye. >> aye. >> all those opposed say no. >> no! gavel bangs. in the pun onof of the chair, the noes of it. >> madam clerk asked for the yays and have it.

>> they're requested, those favoring a vote by yays and yeas nays are ordered. >> laura: they're waiting, let's go back to chad pergram. it appears they're going to continue chad. >> the problem is kevin mccarthy made significant progress today. he doesn't have the votes. he is one vote short. so in this circumstance you can do one of two things. you can go immediately to a 15th vote or you have to then go to an adjournment. you can do one of two things. so right now what they're doing is they are moving to adjourn. this requires a simple majority to adjourn. republicans so far have been able to adjourn when they've needed to do so. they did so earlier today. they did so a couple of days ago. patrick mchenry the republican from north carolina has asked them to go out until noon on monday but then again the first order of business at that point would either be to adjourn or to take that 15th ballot. but they are short right now.

so what they probably want to do is take a timeout. you know, this was a pretty intense set of conversations on the floor. the problem is, does kevin mccarthy lose anybody? do you have people not show up? each vote is going to be different. the mathis going to be different if you have different people's dispositions. does wesley hunt have to travel again. how is ken buck's health? you have three other ken bucks. are democrats all there? at some point these levies break and shift. that's why it is algebra when you try to get this speaker vote set up here. so we'll see -- now, keep in mind, they might not go out. if they do not vote to adjourn, they have to immediately go to that 15th ballot. so here in the next 10 or 15 minutes we'll know what's going on but we have to wait until they close this vote trace. >> thank you chad we'll get back to you in moments. let's bring back bret baier and you have information coming from the floor. what do you know? >> well, there's just a lot of

frustration. a number of people saying they're poed. there was a real whip effort on boebert and gaetz. they could not get them to come off present. there was no moving the other four. and now there is a question whether they have the votes to adjourn. to chad's point, you know, we should point out that there is some credit to be given for democrats holding the line almost every single ballot. there was only one ballot where they got 211 and that's because representative trone from maryland had surgery but they came back the next ballot and they've been 212 every single ballot. and there have been a couple of others where mccarthy took the lead. but you have to get the majority of all of the numbers in the house. now the question is, if they don't adjourn, are they going to have a 15th ballot that does exactly the same thing? they're working still. it's sort of like a rush in a

fraternity where they're trying to get -- what can we do to make you happy, to make you join in on this thing. and there are people that, it's not mccarthy himself as you can see him talking to jim jordan there, but it is his allies and the people that are closest in this negotiation to those six other folks. >> but i need to ask you, bret, you talk about the whole russh rush analogy if you listened to matt gaetz and lauren boebert they were very happy with the concessions they received from kevin mccarthy. they were all in. in fact there were some analysts that said it sounds to me like matt gaetz and lauren boebert may not vote present they may vote yes. so if er this he a happy with everything they got then why would they vote present? why not change your vote and vote in favor of mccarthy? what do you have to lose. >> that's a great question. it's a great question appear it goes to the wall street

journal's kimberly strossel, they got changes and the rules the bay they operate now take the win was her argument in the wall street journal. i do think on the flip side there are a lot of people who look at this and there's some frustration that it's going this long and they expected it to end tonight but lisa mclane from michigan who said, this was the line heading into the weekend, taking a few days to pick a speaker isn't shameful. biden's afghanistan withdraw was shameful. she voted for mccarthy i should point out. but there's some people that are relishing this moment to show the country, what? that they are going through the process. but it's sort of like they've made their point and they got the changes and now the people who are supporting mccarthy say, hey, we're here, let's move on. >> what else is there to fight for i guess is the question,

what else are you fighting for if they do in fact decide to adjourn and come back monday you have a weekend as chad was saying maybe you have some people who can cannot come back or change their vote. so it seems to me like going through the weekend is a down side for kevin mccarthy because that's time to let people mull on this, bret, and it just seems to me like if you've got what you want and everybody appears to be happy with the situation, and you know if you're a member of the house freedom caucus that any time down the road, you can stop kevin mccarthy's agenda because you have thrive, 40 members and so you can stop the agenda at any time. why not put him in place as a speaker. you've never had more power as a caucus. >> right. and you have that rule where one member could stand up and initiate a motion to vacate. which means that they could vote. it would have to require a majority of the house, but they could pull him off the seat and take him out of the speakership. so he gave a lot.

and there were other concessions that he did give. the question is, what does the weekend show? i don't think, because all of these folks were starting to talk today, including boebert and gaetz on hannity earlier, about the success that they've had of changing the institution. so at one vote away from the speakership, it's hard to imagine that someone else steps in and gets more votes than kevin mccarthy. he's cobbled together and fought through 14 ballots and now it's going to be 15 to try to be the 55th representative in the united states of america to ever hold this position. >> it is absolutely fascinating and baffling at the same time. bret, stand by if you will. let's bring in rnc chair ronna mcdaniel and ronna, i am kind of baffled by the whole thing. if you're the speaker of the house, kevin mccarthy, who hopes to become that sometime in the next few minutes or days, one of your major jobs is to count votes and they were all kind of thinking they were on the same page today thinking they had the

votes and now they come up one short. what gives here in your opinion. >> yeah, i mean, i was watching fox all night, too. i saw hannity just like bret was talking about with matt gaetz and lauren boebert on. they were talking about kevin being the speaker designee. they seemed very positive. they said everybody was going to be happy. i think we're getting there, just taking a little longer. there's some growing pains along the way. we'll be more unified. we have retired nancy pelosi and we'll come together as a party it just may take a little longer than expected. >> you say take longer and we're getting there is it something that could happen in the next 15 minutes and they start the 15th vote or do you think it's better for everyone to take the weekend off and come back monday fresh with maybe a new perspective? >> yeah, i hear what you're saying, trace. i mean if you have the momentum why don't you keep the vote going. i think if they feel like they can't get the vote tonight, let wesley go be with his baby who's in the nicu, let these members

go home and refresh and regroup. but if they feel like they have the vote they should take it. but, again, with patrick mchenry coming up and doing the motion to adjourn i think they want to adjourn and go home and come back monday and have a house speaker. >> you can see how divided, 216 for kevin mccarthy and 212 for hakeem jeffries and save for one of the votes hakeem jeffries got 212 votes. it seems like the democrats are together and going forward for kevin mccarthy to get things done he's going to need 218 votes and that's what people are asking how in the world do you get those 218 votes on a regular basis going forward to make sure the republican agenda thrives and survives. >> you know, i've heard that a lot but on policy i don't see division in our party. everybody wants a border and is

in sync on these investigations and holding the biden administration accountable and doing the business of american people and getting rid of 87,000 irs agents. so i'm not seeing a policy difference right now. i'm seeing rules differences and how are we going to govern as a windy but ultimately the republican party recognizes we just took the house, we retired nancy pelosi, the american people want us to get to business and we have to do that united. >> yeah. it's interesting to me. it's fascinating. i want to go back to chad pergram chad to get the lay of the land we've been mulling around on house floor for the better part of 11 minutes now. we don't yet know if the motion to adjourn got enough yeas or nays to be put into motion. what are you hearing. >> right now the motion to adjourn is failing. okay? only 203 yays, 214 nays so it's failing. if the motion to adjourn fails, the house must stay in session and by rule that automatically triggers that 15th vote.

now, again, as i said, each vote is a little bit different. so maybe you have some people who thought this was all going to be wrapped up. they're already on a plane, they're driving somewhere and it depends which side they're on. okay. so you could trigger that roll call vote. this is where we get into some very dangerous turf potentially for kevin mccarthy. why? because it needs an outright majority of the house of members casting ballots for somebody by last name and hakeem jeffries on every single roll call vote with the exception of a couple when david trone was out was at 212. so suddenly, if you have just the right number of people who are away on the republican side of the aisle not there for kevin mccarthy and jeffries people stay in town and vote, guess what? you could have speaker jeffries. i know that sounds crazy with a capitol k. but that's kind of where we are right now. but you would be compelled to have that next vote no matter what.

>> but my question to you, chad, would be, you know as the speaker of the house as we've seen many times over several years, the speaker of the house needs to know how many votes he has going into various situations and they came up a vote short tonight and a lot of people are going to ask this question if they're not already asking it is how do you screw that up. how do you mess that up by one vote? i mean, they were elated all day and even matt gaetz and lauren boebert were on hannity tonight and they were satisfied with the way this thing is going. and now suddenly we're a vote short and nobody's quite sure exactly why. >> i have an answer for you. because kevin mccarthy, when he was the whip, majority leader, minority leader, same with steve scalise, their forte was not counting votes. they were inconsistent when they were in the majority sometimes even in the minority. you know who was really good at counting votes? nancy pelosi, to a member she passed major bills consistently

with a one or two vote margin. nancy pelosi didn't bring bills to the floor unless she had a scroti. now here you have to vote for a speaker so this was not a question about whether or not kevin mccarthy wanted to go tonight or whenever, this vote was probably going to happen at some point because you have to keep voting until you get a speaker. nancy pelosi always knew whether you like her politics or not exactly how many votes she had and she rarely, if ever, lost. but this is kind of the calling card we have seen with steve scalise and also with kevin mccarthy and again it marks this inauspicious beginning to the 118th congress and the gop majority when they are voting, you know, just short having enough members to vote in favor of their speaker of the house to launch the congress. >> it's interesting, bret baier if you're still with us it's fascinating because we also heard talk tonight about former president trump kind of getting involved in this at the 11th hour. i know he did some lobbying and he did some, you know, some

campaigning in favor of kevin mccarthy in the past couple of days. it didn't really seem to do much and there was some talk that maybe he really kind of gets into the face, if you will, of boebert and of matt gaetz to kind of push them over the edge. certainly they removed from, you know, other votes to present votes, still not enough. do you think that was a factor in this at all, bret? >> i don't, trace, i really don't. not any evidence that it has been. when he made his first endorsement very publicly saying that the representatives needed to move on and vote for kevin mccarthy, there was not a single vote that changed that day. wore' told he's been engaged behind the scenes but there was a moment where lauren boebert got up in one of her nominating speeches saying the former president should stop calling us and call kevin mccarthy and say he doesn't have enough votes. so there was a moment where that kind of twisted and turned. i don't think that's movement from the trump camp to move any

of these representatives which, in and of itself aside what's happening on the house floor does tell you something about the moment politically and perhaps the former president's influence in that chamber and in politics in washington: speaking of all of this, i think it's -- we would be remiss not to notice and point out that this is the two-year anniversary of the january 6th capitol riots. in that very chamber and in the senate chamber it was overtaken by, you know, rioters going into the capitol. so as everyone gathers here, it's not front on their mind but they are thinking about it as that rememberance happens two years. you're looking at matt gaetz making his way through the chamber there talking to different groups of people. there's an amazing picture from the pool that has kevin mccarthy exchanging comments with gaetz and boebert and they're pointing at each other and i think we're

going to see a lot of these stills about this moment. we'll see what he's doing right there, whether he's changing -- chad, what is he doing will? is he doing the math up on the top or is he changing a vote? >> so right now, right now what happens is, they are voting on the motion to adjourn. so if you get underneath where the clock has run out, this is kind of like soccer they keep the time on the field we're into booking an injury time right now, extra time as they say. so if you're going to vote or change your vote. >> he's talking to mccarthy right now. >> but this is the vote to adjourn. this is the vote to adjourn, this is no. on the speaker's vote. but you fill out a card to change your vote or vote after you get past that time period. so right now by rule we have a 217-217 vote. by rule a tie vote goes down. >> wait, wait, wait. something else is happening here chad. >> yes.

because what's happening here, bret, what they're trying to do, trace, they're trying to keep the house in session because maybe they have convinced boebert or gaetz to stay in or to keep the house in session. >> and so they wanted to adjourn before. >> right. >> but now gaetz maybe says i want to vote for mccarthy. >> that's right. >> and mccarthy says hold on let's keep it open and they all say wait i'm changing my vote. >> yes. >> don't vote to adjourn, let's vote to keep it open. >> yes. >> and let's stay here. >> that's right. >> and that's what he's saying. >> right now still the nays are losing right now so again they have to flip this. so if the nays are losing, that means the republicans will be compelled to have that 15th vote and maybe they don't want to kind of let the air out of the balloon, let people kind of regroup et cetera and maybe have that right now. >> let's just point out, let's just point out this is the most animated that kevin mccarthy has been on the floor throughout this entire thing. i mean, he knows he's one vote away from the speakership and

gaetz has told him something. i mean, they were smiling at each other right there. and suddenly they run up and, you know, change their vote or make a note to not adjourn. >> right. >>en a i think he's trying to rally the folks here on the ground to let's do this 15th and let's get it done. >> right. exactly. so in this type of vote, this is the more conventional type of vote where they vote by electronic device where they have a credit card and insert it not a machine. so what happened is matt gaetz probably voted already but you get in that window where the time is running down, you changed your vote and fill out a card. so that's what matt gaetz was doing and then you saw kevin mccarthy also going up there to do that. and so right now the motion to adjourn is failing. so right now they probably will stay into session and we will have a 15th vote and we'll see if they have made some successful horse trades with matt gaetz or lauren bow burt but again have people already

left and gone to the airport and gotten on trains we don't know. i have been here where they have dismissed people and they realized they didn't have the votes people were recalled from reagan national airport they held the votes open we've had all kinds of chaos, people have been chased down in hallways. you could be in a very similar situation tonight because people thought that's it, we're done, i'll be back on monday. but, you know, which members might have disparitied that have commitments where they cannot be here? that's where this gets kind of squirrely. >> you've seen by the way, gentlemen, let me jump in because i saw the red board up there, 230 nay votes. it appears we are going forward. my question to you chad, you talked earlier about changing vote. do we have to go lou the entire voting process again? in other words, do we move on to the 15th ballot. >> yes. >> or is there a process where somebody can just change their vote right now, someone like matt gaetz could go up and say i would like to change my vote before we go through this again.

>> trace each vote is asylum. so once cheryl announced that, that vote is closed done. you can't go back retroactively. remember there was that window of time where everybody was working on matt gaetz in the back of the chamber. he could have changed that vote then. you were within that window. so that silo is done. then patrick mchenry made the motion to adjourn so they called for a roll call vote there, you move to the next silo so they're moving right now in the silo to adjourn. so that's the only thing you can vote on right now up or down, yes or no, adjourn or stay in session. so if they vote against a journalling, then by rule under these circumstances because you do not have a speaker of the house by rule the next vote has to be, must be unequivocally a 15th vote for speaker of the house. that's the only thing they can do. >> and for the motion to adjourn here, and correct me if i'm wrong bret is there wiggle room

because it appears they have 230 that's a no they cannot adjourn they have to move forward. can they change votes on that. >> it's just a time thing. they could but they're now overwhelming the numbers and it looks like they are not going to adjourn, they're going to move to the 15th ballot. they have to wait for the time, even though it says zero zero zero the vote is still open. chad's seeing zero zero zero and votes staying open forever in his time on capitol hill. let me point out news we're getting from gop folks up on the hill that the understanding going into that last vote, the 14th ballot was that boebert from colorado was a yes for mccarthy, and changed to present without telling any of the compatriots, any of the people. and that was a surprise when she went to present. they thought it was still fine, but then the others, crain did not vote present, and so the math didn't work. when gaetz and boebert were

getting pressured, there were some people saying, you said you were a yes, and she was kind of silent. and there was a heated moment when mike rodgers had to be held back, he was charging at gaetz because there was so much frustration and anger that it had come to that point. now something else has happened. and we saw it live together as kevin mccarthy and matt gaetz kind of came together slapped each other on the side and said you know what, it looked like, let's change to don't adjourn i'm with you or i'm going to vote for you, we can solve this tonight. it seems like they were smiling and now republicans are sticking in. to chad's point, though, everybody's got to be in the hall. you've got to have those numbers. and then you've got to know, this is the biggest issue. you've got to be able to whip the people that are there and know where your numbers are. >> yeah, we just saw den crenshaw talking.

>> now do the debt ceiling. >> we saw dan crenshaw talking to matt gaetz as well. it's interesting you talk about lauren boebert thought to be a yes coming in in favor of mccarthy bret because the truth is when lauren boebert voted present there was a big round of applause as if people were satisfied she voted present in fact they were elated she voted present and apparently only in hindsight did we get the news, no she was supposed to vote in favor of mccarthy. so it appeared at some point they thought that still might be enough. >> yeah. and, you know, this is what we're getting on the floor, all kinds of stuff is flying. but there was a conversation between kevin mccarthy and matt gaetz that seemed to change the dynamic. and we're getting some color to that. >> yeah. it's fascinating, it really is. you just kind of look at what's going on on the floor here and chad pergram so we can move this thing forward, how long do we have if the nays succeed, how

long do we have time-wise before the next vote actually begins. >> it should happen automatically as soon as they close this vote, unless there's another motion to adjourn. that would be the only other thing in order right now. what's interesting here the first night that they had that adjournment, cheryl johnson who's the democratic clerk running the house of representatives right now because it's unclear who the speaker is going to be, show called that vote right at 15 minutes, exactly at 15 minutes. and so right now they're going to close this vote and bruce westerman, who is a republican from arkansas, is about to make the nomination. so the house is going to stay in session even though mchenry moved to adjourn and they were going to come back and try this monday. they still might figure this out tonight. so momentarily here -- there's no votes right now. the democrats can't do anything about this to, you know, make sure the house goes out of session tonight. looking at the vote now, as much as it kind of more offed throughout this vote, it is going to stay in session, they're going to defeat this

motion to adjourn and we're going to have a 15th vote here very soon. >> and, chad, before we go back, olivia beavers from political on the panel on special report many times, multiple republicans sources telling her that gaetz has now agreed to vote for mccarthy and there is a lot of optimism and smiles on the floor. so what we saw real time live was, in fact, that, we're being told. >> you know what this reminds me of when they keep the vote open like this, and i've seen a number of these lengthy votes from time to time on different issues, central american free trade agreement, a fiscal issue in the fall of 2005, they held the votes open and it was like seeing an overexposed photograph. like the appear tor you keep it open too long and then eventually what happens bret and trace is you see how they make the sausage. that's the difference. which you don't often see. that's exactly what we have e seen here the past 15-20

minutesents here's a moment chad. this is sheila jackson lee of texas talking to matt gaetz. and she's on that side and she's leaning in. you can see matt gaetz leaning in, take the wide shot there, and if i'm not mistaken that's sheila jackson lee of texas. >> yes. >> and what do you think she's talking about? i mean they're not just talking about what they're doing next week. you know, she's saying something. like maybe you should stay present. they're joking around, they're laughing. but it's interesting to see the texas democrat and the florida republican chatting in this really crucial moment where he is a deciding vote for the next speaker of the united states of america. >> and you know what else is interesting about all this? for a couple of years, you know, members were kind of in and out of the building. >> we should go to the floor. >> does any member wish to change a vote? >> okay. i'm going to say one thing here

guys, bring me in i'm going to say something real quick. >> go ahead, chad. >> susan cole the reading clerk is going to announce members who have changed their votes, those who were voteing to adjourn and switched their votes. so she's going to go through the list and then the house will say we're in session this did not pass so that's what's going on right now, these are all the members that switched their votes during the pandemonium on the house floor then they will go to the 15th vote for speaker.

>> so it does in fact appear the nays have it chad and i'm wondering when they start voting again, do they go over this? do they renominate kevin mccarthy and hakeem jeffries all over again? >> absolutely so susan cole here is going to go through all the names then cheryl johnson will read the totals and it all starts all over again. this is like the matrix revolutions or something, it starts all over again here. they will have nominating speeches, bruce westerman will nominate kevin mccarthy. >> the yays are 155, the nays resist 279. the motion is not adopted. what purpose does the gentleman from arkansas rise? >> madam clerk, i rise to nominate kevin mccarthy as the speaker of the house. [cheers and applause].

>> eyes of the world and the eyes of america are on this body right now. what america needs, what this body needs, is a lot less talk and a lot more action. and at the direction of the republican conference, i advance the name of kevin mccarthy as the next speaker of the house in the 118th congress. [cheers and applause].

>> for what purpose does the gentleman frp minnesota rise? >> madam clerk i rise to say wow. and, madam clerk, i rise to place into nomination for election to the position of speaker of the house of representatives the esteemed and wonderful leader of house democrats, mr. hakeem jeffries of new york.

[cheers and applause] friends, our nation's first president unanimously elected by the electoral college in 1789 keeps watch over us every single day right here in this chamber. and in his inaugural address to our new nation, he spoke of, and i quote, a form of government for the security of our union, and the advancement of our happiness. security of our union and advancement of our happiness. but 234 years later and after 14 rounds of balloting, and a ridiculous personal power across the aisle, we the people still find ourselves without a constituted government. our security neglected and the advancement of anything impossible. and happiness? suffice to say americans are unhappy by the nonsense and the dysfunction playing out on this floor. particularly those who need us the most who rely on our

offices, and i mean every single one of our offices, for services and support. not to mention the unhappy gop and democratic ranking members and chairs of the house foreign affairs committee, our armed services committee and the intel committees who say that the risk to our safety and security grows with each passing hour. so, my friends, this is not just unhappiness, this is dangerous. however, however, the 212 unified members of the house democratic caucus have a very e effective solution for this problem. we call him hakeem jeffries. [cheers and applause] >> and in the spirit of friendliness and hopefulness, we extend a warm invitation to just

6 of you across the aisle to join us, join us. >> never! >> and let's end this nonsense constitute this and elect him speaker of the house. a man who is ready to work with everyone in this congress and throughout our country to place people over politics and solve our country's problems. a man of competency, i decency and integrity. a man of courage, of honor, and resolve. a man who listens better than anyone i have ever known in my life. a man of innovation and cooperation and, yes, indeed, alliteration. 14,421 americans have served in the united states congress since george washington's inaugural address 2 # 4 years agoment one of the very finest of those americans is hakeem jeffries of the great state of new york and it is the honor of a lifetime to

place his name into nomination for speaker of the house. [cheers and applause] >> the reading clerk will call the roll.

adams. >> jeffries. >> adderholt. >> mccarthy. >> aguilar. >> jeffries. >> alford. >> mccarthy. >> allen. >> mccarthy. >> laura: so as the vote goes through the as right now we should point out that we are waiting for a couple of key names to come up, as you know them, waiting for the bs lauren boebert which is lauren boebert and andy biggs, the c andy crain and the gs, bob goode and matt gaetz. and so you're going through this chad pergram and picking out those key names because if when we get to the gs matt gaetz says kevin mccarthy looks like they'll the votes. >> three things to watch for what's the attendance, did anybody leave. see if there are any changes in

the mccarthy defectors, see who gates votes and boebert votes and see in particular if any democrats left because that could change the overall total just not the total universe of the howell of representatives, 434 members as it is right now. but if there are fewer democrats here all of a sudden, that changes the math as well and that could potentially help kevin mccarthy lowering the bar because you have fewer people voting for speaker. again, each ballot is not the same. you needed 217 last time. you might have a different number voting this time. that's why, as i used the term earlier, this is alcomy at this stage. >> interesting because it appears when bret's reporting that somebody named matt gaetz will change his vote in favor of kevin mccarthy, and we are kind of waiting for that. let's just listen in for a few more seconds here. >> mccarthy.

>> barra. >> jeffries. >> bergman. >> mccarthy. >> byer. >> jeffries. >> byce. >> mccarthy [cheers and applause]. >> biggs. >> present [cheers and applause]. >> biliracas? >> mccarthy. >> bishop of georgia. >> jeffries. >> bishop of north carolina?

>> mccarthy. >> blumenauer. >> jeffries. >> rochester. >> jeffries. >> boebert. >> present. >> baust. >> mccarthy. >> bowman. >> hakeem jeffries. >> boyle of pennsylvania. >> hakeem jeffries. >> rakeen. >> mccarthy. >> brown. >> jeffries. >> brownly. >> jeffries. >> buchanan. >> mccarthy.

>> buck. >> mccarthy. >> bouchan. >> mccarthy. >> ba sinski. >> mccarthy. >> burgess. >> mccarthy. >> burleson. >> mccarthy. >> bush. >> jeffries. >> calvert. >> mccarthy. >> cammock. >> mccarthy. >> carraveo. >> jeffries. >> carbehal. >> jeffries. >> cardenis. >> jeffries. >> carrie. >> mccarthy. >> carl.

>> mccarthy. >> carson. >> jeffries. >> carter of georgia. >> mccarthy. >> carter of louisiana. >> jeffries. >> carter of texas. >> mccarthy. >> cartwright. >> jeffries. >> casar. >> jeffries. >> case. >> jeffries. >> caston. >> jeffries. >> castor of florida? >> jeffries. >> castro of texas. >> jeffries. >> chavez de rimir. >> mccarthy. >> mccormack.

>> jeffries. >> chew. >> jeffries. >> cicilline. >> jeffries. >> ciscomani. >> jeffries. >> clark of massachusetts. >> jeffries. >> clark of new york. >> jeffries. >> cleaver. >> jeffries. >> cline. >> mccarthy. >> cloud. >> mccarthy. >> cliburn. >> jeffries. >> clyde. >> mccarthy. >> cohen? >> jeffries. >> cole? mccarthy. >> collins? mccarthy.

>> comer? mccarthy. >> connolly? >> jeffries. >> correa? jeffries. >> costa. >> jeffries. >> courtney. >> jeffries. >> crane. >> present. [applause] >> crawford. >> mccarthy. >> mccarthy. >> a let's clarify a few things but yet just heard eli crane voting present at least we have laura boebert who maintain her volpi to be of any bench you changed his vote from jordan to present and now you have eli crane who changed his vote. this bodes very well for kevin m

ccarthy, regardless of what matt gates does right now. we are looking for matt gates and good to change their vote. you believe he's going to vote in favor of kevin mccarthy. >> that's right. you are right. up at stays the same as the 14 th ballot, this is not if we had the exact same group of people voting, that is always the question what the magic number is. if it was the same as the last ballot, those three would mean kevin mccarthy is the next speaker of the house. this will finish one day after the anniversary of january 6. at it has been a long, long night, long long week but kevin mccarthy will it appears have him in tonight. the question is whether that means an easy road legislating. the answer is it is not going t

become a just judging by this process. >> it is a fascinating, fascinating scenario. back to you in a moment. bret talked about a long night. if kevin mccarthy does become the speaker elect or he will come of course, be sworn in immediately and then the remainder of the house members will also be sworn in immediately i'm trace gallagher. this is fox news that night. we are watching right now the 15 th ballot, the 15th round of voting. we started out with the 14th round earlier. kevin mccarthy during that round got 217. it is 217 votes. or 16 votes but he did not get over the hump. so now they are voting again they voted to maintain this session and now they are voting again and the big news coming out of the cell bars that they. >> changed his vote from