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brave ♪ will: welcome to "fox & friends" on this sunday morning coming to you live from el paso, texas, ahead of president joe biden's visit. we join you here. will cain, emily campano, pete hegseth. along the southern border. pete: you're fortunate. you don't have to wear a town. that is mountain time. very early for will cain. god morning emily as well. >> good morning. pete: can't see it is spot. will: i will trade you a necktie

for some long johns right now. it is about 32 degrees right here. i'm within the city of el paso, pete. the city of el paso, essentially, but for the rio grande river and border blends into juarez, mexico. i don't know if you see behind me. this is a section of the border wall with razor wire on the and lights of juarez literally have guards on the other side of that border wall. pete: interesting. emily: we hear reports of streets cleaned up, that is pretty clean behind you. this is the ahead of the landscape of the city issuing a disaster declaration, so they open up the shelters. the president is clean as if nothing happened. what are you seeing there? what does it look like there now? will: emily, this section where i am right now this is federal land against the border wall.

above me is a overpass. another 200 yards begins essentially the urban center of el paso. you've seen those images, emily, pete, everyone watching at home, seen makeshift migrant camps popping up throughout el paso. we saw it yesterday, a before and after picture of el paso as the clean up has begun to take place ahead of joe biden's visit to el paso. you can see matter of days makeshift camps to clean city streets. to that by the way, the border patrol put out a street on friday. said el paso being cleaned up as if anything unusual ever happened there, just in time for biden's visit to the border of the we suggest, just, breaking up. just send them to des moines, iowa, he will never know the difference. turning el paso essentially into

something it hasn't been for last several months. he is not getting accurate picture of what is going on at the southern border. pete: staggering photo. wednesday, thursday, migrant street side walk camps completely gone. joe biden makes the first trip since he drove past the border in 2008. it has been 15 years. he will get a sanitized version. as a former member of the el paso city council says, sort of defeats the purpose. here is claudia rodriguez. >> very disappointed we cleaned it all up as if nothing ever happened here. the whole purpose of president biden come toggle paso for him to see first-hand that is going on. something never happened in el paso before. mind you we are a city of immigrants. we have people coming into our community every single day. they're coming here legally.

everybody in el paso has a migration story. it key feets the purpose of president biden come toggle paso cleaning up streets the way they are. emily: of course it defeats the purpose. it is a blatant lie, does no one any good, especially the migrants the administration purports to care about. the irony as well, i mentioned earlier that el paso issued a disaster declaration. they have been screaming for help from only the rest of the state, also the administration. the state doesn't have the resources either. just last night they bused another 33 migrants here. good morning to you guys. this is the against the backdrop of 2.4 million migrants surging across the southern border into this fiscal year. we're into another fiscal year. we'll see more. on thursday mayorkas had the nerve to say the system has been broken.

these laws have not been enforced for a long time. exactly they have not been enforced for two years. the laws in place were dismantled by this president who has no idea what is going on at all. for them to have the nerve to bring that up when so much was absolutely deluded, dismantled, destroyed by this administration that trump put in place, stymie ed, the flow as cities and states are screaming for help from this administration refuses to acknowledge it. the sanitized version won't do anyone any good. pete: joe biden has had mayorkas telling him the border is closed. that is the version he gets in the echo chamber of the white house. got me thinking, see you there, will, with the border wall behind you, this show is this morning is the reason why joe biden didn't want to go to the border, because you're there covering the fact that he is visiting. we have to talk about the things that have been happening there. they will do everything they can

to try to sanitize it. there is still impact of glimpse of national media following biden to el paso today. will: pete, at that point, i take credit here. i want to pass along credit to guys like bill melugin and griff jenkins been on the border quite honestly years reporting on the issue at the southern border. your point is exactly right, pete. what is the purpose of the visit to the southern border for joe biden? if el paso as the border patrol tweets out is being turned into des moines, what is the purpose? i don't think it is to open the eyes of joe biden, it is to show the picture to the american public, follows joe biden and press gallery that is not tuned into fox news. they will see an image of the crisis not an accurate representation. douglas murray, a fox news contributor, let's hope something other than a false photo-op comes out of the trip

to el paso. emily: congresswoman mayra flores told kayleigh mcenany, my co-host on outnumbered, they had to take out a loan to pay for her child's school supplies. that is one example, frankly, hundreds of thousands of examples americans having resources absolutely depleted, cities, states, being gutted because of this surge because we are ill-equipped to handle. by the administration not acknowledging it, mainstream media being apologist for the media refusing to cover it, essentially amassing a portfolio when the president decides to run again for office when he is 105, these photos accompany the campaign, nothing to see here. i'm unifier. i got things done. i said don't come to the border. where is vp kamala harris, the border sar? all failures are swept under the rug while americans, cities, states, ask for everything possible.

through our media, through their own landscapes and channels they have asked, it has fallen on deaf ears. now they're creating, that movie, created like a fake, essentially a fake reality. pete: the truman show. like baste bubble or white house bubble has been transported to el paso, a nice comfy bubble a sanitized version joe biden can see. you mentioned it, douglas murray talking about this, here it is. >> made a big fuss, understandably about the fact that the president has not visited the border since becoming to president. he knows the stats. everybody in america knows the stats. this reminds me, it's late in the day and it has got a certain kind of symbol i can importance, this is the like time politicians go to areas with floods, look at water. the flood is there, well-done for you going to look at it, you have not changed anything. it is a sort of photo-op thing. we've been calling for him to go to the border to understand it,

understand the nature of the problem, i don't think he will learn anything. we already know millions of people are flooding across the border every year illegally. it's that, that he has to address. will: question, i don't think any of us have been talking about anticipate the purpose of the trip is for joe biden to learn anything about the crisis here in el paso or along the southern border across this whole nation. to just extend douglas's analogy, a politician showing up for a photo-op after a flood, well after the cleanup has taken place. months after fema come in, local authorities brought bulldozers and rebuilt the city. it is not a accurate photo-op. pete, rachel, i'm sorry, emily, joe biden seems this is the perfect moment apparently to begin the process of thinking about launching a campaign for 2024. let me show you this. this is, this is according to the "new york post" cover today, says all-in. pete you may have it in person.

pete: joe, no, in 2024. apparently we heard he was going to be will, spending time with family oaf christmas and new year's discussing prospects of running in 2024 and a new report says biden camp, it is not just joe, joe, jill, everybody else making decisions for him have said joe? you're running again. okay i will run again. here is ally of joe biden yesterday talking to "the hill" saying quote, i think it is all about timing at this point. it seems like he is all-in. not really if he runs anymore. emily, joe biden will be, would be 86 at the end of a second term. should he run and win in 2024. emily: in dog years, 8 million. look, the "new york post" goes on to say to the horror of everyone who is opposed to him

that is essentially what the world is feeling right now, is abject terror around fear of prolonging the current state of things, especially economically should this person continue to hold office. remember a few months ago we had reports coming out his team is essentially creating a campaign easily shiftable. that can easily pivot should he actually decline to run or something happened, someone challenge him perhaps in the primary, they actually get it. they can pivot the slogan, oh everything's fine to a kamala harris to, a pete buttigieg, or the like. i have to point out as well as gallup underscores, no president, i want to say almost 100 years has ever won a second term with approval rating less than 44%. this president enjoy as peak of what 33, 40? i'm paraphrasing. pete: the other stat, will, we'll pull it up later in the program. when was the last time a president just decided not to run for a second term? it doesn't happen. once you have the reins of

power, circle of power, the advisors around you, people don't give it up, even obviously it is something he shouldn't undertake. emily: his team won't give it up, exactly to your point. will: it will be fascinating to see the response of rings of power around him, pete, emily. what will be the response of the democrat, of the democratic party? i don't know they can look at 2024 and say, yeah, we can again nominate joe biden. look they may be able to convince themselves of that because of the way they have been able to manage quite honestly, manage this presidency so far. we don't think that joe biden is necessarily sitting there at the levers of control at all times. perhaps that can be convinced, we can do this another four years. i think real question will be who inside of the democratic party goes no, this can't happen in 2024. emily: we saw a taste of that with their very shallow bench three names that step forward all the time. they were hushed.

came out with that, all of sudden came out, drew the party line, we're all supporting the president, it will be biden in 2024. everyone is holding their breath waiting for their shackles to come off to they can be honest and free, will to, your point, throw my name in the ring we'll not behind the puppeteering. pete: biden counting on captured media not to cover him, anything detrimental to him. will, we're back to you in a moment. covering el paso as joe biden stumbles towards the border. we're start with headlines a man shooting of scottsdale, police sergeant, is dead after a shootout with phoenix police last night. he was shot while serving a warrant with the suspect. police say the suspect escaped after jumping from a second story balcony. police eventually tracked him down leading to a shootout which left the suspect dead. the injured sergeant, thankfully is expected to make a full

recovery. to a fox weather alert, california residents bracing for even more rain, at least three atmospheric river storms, never heard of that one, we'll have to ask risk about that, said to hit california in the coming days after the deadly "bomb cyclone" that drenched the region last week. some areas in california expected to get as much as eight-inches of rain throughout the week. as of this morning more than 500,000 residents in california are without power. you can follow this story and all the latest weather developments by downloading the fox weather app on any connected device. new speaker of the house kevin mccarthy officially releasing the new set of house rules late last night. the rules package including several concessions made by mccarthy to republican holdouts but it's not clear if it will pass. we'll see how the holdouts feel exactly put in black and white

text. joe biden also congratulated mccarthy in a statement sent out by his aides saying quote, i'm prepared to work with republicans when i can now that the leadership has been decided it is time for that process to begin. later this morning new house majority leader steve scalise will join this program to preview the gop agenda under mccarthy's speakership. talk about whether that rules package will pass on monday. bills safety damar hamlin speaking out on social media for the first time since his terrifying collapse on monday night. hamlin saying quote, the love has been overwhelming but i'm thankful for every single person that prayed for me and reached out and asks for more prayers as he continues to recover. the bills will honor him later today when they take on the patriots rocking his number 3 patches on their jerseys. other teams are also paying tribute. the jaguars and titans came together at mid field for a group prayer before their game

yesterday and espn actually showed it and talked about it, a prayer before the game which was heartening to see. and the titans went on to lose, jags wins 20-17. will: that was a really, that was a really powerful image for all the players and, pete, emily praying at the middle of the field. this so rarely happens in television i want to make sure i take a minute to mention this as well. good friend of mine, commentator at espn, dan orlofsky. took a moment to on television to pray for dam -- damar hamlin. people wonder how so much attention devoted to this one tragedy? i will say this, people across the nation are going through tragedies at all times. they're dealing with things, but we focus often on bad news in the news. here is a moment to focus on good news. hopefully we see through the power of things like the quick

response of that medical team an prayer. good news can come to all of you listening at home as well. people across this country dealing with their own tragedies. pete: a great point. emily: the power of pray works. that's what this means. i have to say, looking at the teams, having espn show it, every single 32 teams, saying pray for 3, that is so tremendous. keep in mind what have we been talking, will to your point on this channel for a while, the public school football coach was terminated for praying on the field. granted a different situation, public school, kids, whatever, the bottom line public prayer is beautiful. prayer works. prayer is amazing. maybe this is heartening, if only for a moment that everyone is unified in this way. i'm grateful for it. all right, coming up school is set to resume this week at the university of idaho after a suspect is arrested in the murders of four students there. our next guest believes the piece of evidence left at the crime scene could indicate a

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♪. emily: students at the university of idaho returning to campus this week with a great sense of relief after brian kohberger is charged with the murder of four students. dna evidence playing a major part in the case. watch. >> they have additional dna that i've been told by a source and that dna is being processed. two of the victims allegedly fought back. they may very well have dna under the fingernails of those victims that fought back. so they have a very, very strong

case. emily: a knife sheath was left behind at the crime scene which our next guest says could help indicate who exactly the killer was targeting. forensic expert, distinguished scholar of applied forensics, jacksonville state university, joseph scott morgan joins us now. good morning, sir, thank you for joining us. give me your top line thoughts why it indicates who the killer might have been targeting. >> good morning, emily. we have to talk about the two victims, two female victims were cosleeping, according to the affidavit they were found in the same bed and this sheath which we've been talking about for sometime, certainly we've been talking about the knife, the sheath was actually found immediately adjacent to one of the remains there and the recovery of the dna from this sheath actually originates from what is referred to as the button snap. this is the location on the sheath that holds the knife in

place. if you're wearing it on your min, for instance, it keeps it from falling out but in order to release the knife from the sheath, that button snap has to be flipped at that moment in time. if you think about the dynamics of this event, if the intruder, the accused enters into the bedroom, begins to attack, these two victims simultaneously, he would have essentially, hate to say this, would have actually pounced on them in the bed perhaps, because they're both there together. he would have unsheathed the knife and then begun to do his work at that point in time. and i think, probably, dropping the sheath right there. >> essentially what you're arguing there, he unsheathed the knife at the primary point where he started to execute these four, four kids which means the primary target is the first place he did it. what is the probability of transfer dna which is thrown around by many people who

probably don't have anywhere near your qualifications? >> it is very real. there is an old principle in the forensicses card prince prime minister of exchange, every contact leaves a trace. it applies here. think about the perpetrator just absolutely devastating these individuals, these poor victims, blood will transfer to him. anything that comes off of him conversely transfers to their bodies as well. it is not just blood. we're talking about any kind of touch dna, like dead skin cells that are sloughing off. you also have hair transfer, fiber transfer, all of these things are going through and here's key. if he has blood on him he will contact the surfaces he is walking on and touching. powerful evidence. emily: joseph scott morgan, thank you so much for your expertise. we'll stay with you for developments in this case as they arrive, arise. >> thank you. >> coming up new revelations in

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♪. pete: we're learning new details this morning about the 2021 u.s. drone strike in kabul. remember that during our botched withdrawal from afghanistan. this was after was called the righteous strike. according to "the new york times" the pentagon knew that innocent children were among the 10 dead and made misleading statements about that reality. joining us now former green beret, author of operation, pineapple express, scott mann. you wrote the book on this at the time. does it surprise you the pentagon knew within hours, a couple of hours that they had

the wrong target but they didn't admit it? >> hey, pete, happy new year. you know, there is a lot about this whole thing that just doesn't surprise me and certainly the way our executive leadership communicated to the american people. there were a lot of misses. you know i don't know all the details what was going on behind the scenes, what they knew, when they knew it, but it certainly looks like the pentagon could have leveled with the american people sooner on this. at the time you think about the moral injury going on at this time, particularly with our veterans, watching their partners be abandoned, this just added more fuel to the fire i think. pete: why is the instinct, colonel, not just defend the strike, but call it a righteous strike? it was a good retaliation whoever is making that statement, has access to the information, we don't, civilians, yes, have been killed, it was not the correct target? why is that the reflex of the

pentagon, this pentagon? >> yeah i mean i think there is a couple of things to unpack on this that is really important from a postmortem perspective. when you think about the mechanics that do go into a strike like this, the men and women of our military services and the intelligence community, it is a very, very complex, difficult thing to do to execute a surgical strike like this. certainly on the heels of a catastrophic ied that killed 13 of our servicemembers. in having been involved in some of those i will not monday morning quarterback that, but yeah, to the degree the way it was spun, put out there as a righteous strike, to me on the par as saying this was the greatest airlift in american history, when in reality it was systemic abandonment of our partners we ever saw. to me it is just spin. i think it added to the moral injury so many of our veterans, frankly civilians are feeling year-and-a-half later,. pete: pete that is the right point. you and i both know.

you can tolerate made by professionals doing their best in impossible circumstances that happens in war, i get that but attempt to spin it afterwards because it has been such a cascading disaster makes it even worse for everyone involved. lieutenant, last, real quick. >> just one other thing look at the policy what relegated our intel assets our special-ops to have to behind the perimeter in the first place. why are we using drones in a situation like that when we had elite forces on the ground to put forward. pete: why we're using drones? he we're using taliban to defend us at the very end. great strategy. happy new year. >> you too, pete. pete: still ahead, hiding the truth, hiding el paso migrant i would legal camps reportedly being cleaned up ahead of joe biden's visit today. will cain live from el paso, with residents that live there

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emily: welcome back. we have headlines for you. police concluding their ground search for missing massachusetts mom anna walsh yesterday. officials searched the pool and wooded area surrounding the home and found quote, negative results for the second straight day. police have been searching for walsh since she was reported missing on january 4th but she hasn't been seen since new year's day. the fire at walsh's former home

in massachusetts friday being ruled accidental. former justice department official francey haiks will be on later to discuss the case. another fairfax, virginia high school appears withholding awards from students name of equity. another high school faces a state led investigation for the same claims. an outrageous parent sharing e maim your stuart was come pend ad by national merit scholarship corporation. i must apologize the certificates were not distributerred usual way. parents say with holding the awards cost the kids scholarship opportunities. the school said they contacted colleges to let them know the student applicants received the award late. wild video shows a poor door smashes. >> a glass door of all place as minnesota butcher shop after breaking in, the deer attempts

to escape through a window before eventually going out the front door. no one was hurt but the shop did have to close because of the extensive damage. the owner is making light of the incident, quote a deer decided to come in and warm up, realized it's a butcher shop and hightailed it right back out. those are the headlines. let's turn to chief meteorologist rick reichmuth for the fox weather forecast. rick: not the one you want to go to little buddy. get out of there. we've been talking about this line of storms that would develop yesterday afternoon. you see this couple little spots we're seeing flooding. move in a little bit closer here we'll see this line of storms continue to pull off towards the east as it does it will weaken a little bit. we'll not talk about severe weather. we had severe weather during the overnight hours. this will wind down a little bit. eventually she patches of blue. this will meet up with colder air here. we'll see a little bit of a system develop.

we get first accumulating snow across parts of the mid-atlantic. that will be throughout the overnight hours and tomorrow morning. tomorrow morning maybe a few snow flurries around new york city way has not counseling lated snow. next hour we talk about the west coast where another massive storm will come on in and have some really significant impacts for the start of this week. all right. emily. certain it back to you. >> thank you, will. over to you in el paso where you have some guests with you that are going to help explain what life is really like in el paso right now. will: i do, thank you, emily. the first time in his presidency joe biden is visiting the southern border. he comes in today, he will start here in he el paso, texas. ahead of the visit the city is cleaning up migrant camps where thousands were living after being released by the border patrol. our next guests want to see what is happening. we have fascinating conversations already begun this

morning. she is el paso county judge candidate and rosy, a long-time el paso resident. rosy is not sharing her last name. i didn't make a mistake here. we'll get to why in just one moment, rosy is not sharing her last name. let's pick up what we were talking about a few moments ago, ladies if we might. you both are essentially lifelong el paso residents. both born just over there in juarez. >> correct. yes. will: both made a real strong point to me, american citizens. your families went about the process the right way. how did your family go about it, rosy? >> my parents are from mexico. i was brought here when i was four years old. my parents got sponsored by their employers. will: guadalupe? >> my dad joined u.s. army. they came first as legal residents. joined the u.s. army. as a result of that our entire family was able to become american citizen. will: you're both making the point, you're first generation of immigrants. there is a presumption about the

point of view you hold you feel like is completely inaccurate. >> absolutely. there is assumption we came here emigrated legally that we're okay with the illegal immigration. we are not. we're okay with immigration. that is how we came. part of the american dream. we have understand the want and need to come to the united states of america. we're proud americans. >> yes we are. >> we want it to be done legally. the assumption by a lot of people, our congresswoman, that we're okay what is happening to our city right now is absolutely out rage just. will: rosy, help me understand what is happening to your city, what changes are taking place? >> there is a lot of criminal activity in my neighborhood. as soon as we get 2800 migrants coming in, it started. in october i had trafficking ring going of human smuggling in my parking lot of my apartment complex. november, a house got busted for

trafficking migrants across the street. december 23rd, there was a fight between a gang of, a group of salvadorian and venezuelan guys. they got arrested. on new year's eve a guy came from out of town and started pointing a gun at the migrants by the church. he got caught the next day. and until this day, as we speak there is still human smuggling in my neighborhood. will: you're telling me, i mentioned a moment ago, you don't want to share your last name? >> correct. it is happening. everybody, the neighbors are seeing it. we're scared. we're still not out of the woods. this is not okay. will: you feel like you could be targeted? >> we can. we are there on the same street. people are scared. there is a lot of elderly people, ten ants that live in my apartment complex are scared. we fear for our safety this is not over. will: you were talking to me about the way this city has

changed in your lifetime, minute she mentioned to you, you said, oh, my, you have a lot of trouble there? >> yes. two types of illegal immigration going on. one type, people are coming through, asking for asylum, they're processed, they take care of them you have the people entries without inspection. running across-border highways, i-10, getting run over by el pasoance. can you be imagine going 60 miles an hour come to a full stop, five, 10, 30, illegal immigrants coming across, you have to stop. the other thing we're seeing dovetailing what rosie said, in downtown el paso, they're struggling to recover from covid. now our businesses are getting phone calls from residents asking is it safe to come to downtown? it is not. as rosie said we see increase in crime. our police department, wonderful police department, we're stretched thin.

border patrol, we love you guys, they're stretched thin. now you have a tent city, i'm sorry -- okay if i continue? will: yeah. >> tent city being set up, a processing facility in northeast el paso. no one consulted residents across the highway. it is going up. obviously they're planning for this to continue or they wouldn't be constructing it. we feel completely unheard by our mayor, our county judge, our congresswoman escobar. will: to be clear this is vastly different than what you both have experienced. we were joking not ask them how old they are. you've been in el paso a long time. vastly different what you're experienced in your life. >> i never seen this happen. never. i migrated here since i was four years old. that is more than 50 years. will: we have to go, i'm curious what have you seen happen last couple days in preparation for the trip from the president? >> i think. they cleaned up downtown. they were telling them to take

up the camps leave, they were cleaning up. i think that is absolutely not right. you do not clean up for the president, okay? the president, this is the president's fault, not our fault. so why would we clean up you know. so, no, leave it like it is. let him come and see for himself the real picture you know. he needs to know what is going on. otherwise he will come and say, oh, well there is no crisis. no, that's not right. >> absolutely. will: clean up for the president, not for the people that live here. >> it has to be el paso residents first. will: lupe, rosie, thank you for getting up, braving the cold this morning. i know you want to put a coat on. go do that. >> thank you for having us. will: still ahead, deprogrammed from indoctrination. a former trans and gay activists helping parents whose children were pushed so far into wokeness they won't even talk to them. that's next.

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witnessing what she believes is propaganda about gender in high schools. she works as deprogrammer to help parents with indoctrinated children. pete: to join us and tell us more, kay yang is here. >> good morning. pete: you're trying to help deprogram kids. you used to be pushing the same thing you're fighting against now. what, what were you pushing and why did you decide it was so bad for kids? >> that's right. pete. good morning to you, pete and emily. when i was in my early 20s, i was paid with funding from the new york state department of health to indoctrinate public schoolchildren with gender identity and transgender ideology. we used themes of acceptance, anti-bullying, suicide prevention. pete: yes. >> in order to gain sympathy and trust from teachers and parent and 10 years ago no one ever heard of a trans child. the work i was doing at the

lgbtq center was helping to pave the way for creation and normalization of so-called trans child. children are not trans and children cannot consent to puberty blockers, wrong sex hormones and surgeries that alter their healthy bodies and sterilize them. emily: you work with families to help deprogram their children, how long does it cost, how long does it take, is this your full-time position, tell us what you're doing in that way? >> i'm completely independent. i represent only myself. i'm not here to sell any services. the conversations that i have with parents of children and teens who have been indoctrinated with gender identity ideology. they are confidential and come from direct referrals with people in organizations that i have established relationships with already. the work i do is completely non-coercive. i'm not here to force anyone to listen to me. i seek to provide research,

information and resources that mothers, fathers, grandparents and families in general can use to empower themselves, to make the best choices for them and their children. emily: thank you for that, just to be clear here, this is a, has become a business. how much does a family pay someone to help someone else deprogram their child? >> so the work that i do is largely for free. it is not a for-profit, it is not a job for me. it is something that i do out of my heart because i feel for the parents and families that are struggling with this because i know so intimately what they're going through as i was indoctrinated and programmed to this ideology myself. emily: that's good. that's great. pete: kay, we're almost out of time, but is it going to get worse? are they going to keep pushing this? >> yes. i think it is going to get worse. the gender identity industry has

really spread its tentacles into every facet of our society. that is clear. this is coordinated attack on our children, being done in the name of trans rights. it is perpetrated on the local level, the state level, the federal level and direction of global governing bodies like the united nations and world economic forum. pete: we're running out of time. thank you for your courage to stand up. >> thank you so much, pete, and emily. it will remind you. when it does, aspen dental is here for you. we offer the custom dental treatments you need, all under one roof, right nearby. so we can bring more life to your smile... and more smile to your life... affordably. new patients without insurance can get a free complete exam and x-rays, and 20 percent off treatment plans. schedule your appointment today.

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