trey: thank you, brady quinn and thank you, you can find us on-line at gowdy america or trey gowdy pod cost, good night from south carolina, live "life, liberty and levin" is up next. mark: hello america, i am mark levin, this is "life, liberty and levin." first show of the near year, thanks for being here, quite a week, i hate to tell thrul there will be main more like it, with such a close vote, a close number in the house of representatives. i watched it as many of you

do. one of people who spoke eloquently was congressman brian mast of florida, his words echoed when benjamin franklin said, he said, we could pass all the rules we want, if we in this body, the mic majority. don't do the right thing that does not matter. all the talk about all of the rules, following route rules. i got to thinking of benjamin franklin 's comments. in his 80s, he was very ill, he was going to stand up and give a speech but he could not stand up, he handed it to his friend and

another delegate from pennsylvania james wilson who read it this is what benjamin fr franklin said, i confess that i do not entirely approve of this constitution of present, sir, i am note sure i shall never approve it for having lived long i have experienced many instances of being obliged to change opinions even on important subjects, i once thought right, but found to be otherwise. is it is therefore the older i grow the more apt i am to doubt my own judgment --

>> if well administered -- mark: he goes on: i think

it will astonish our enemies who are waiting with confidence to hear our councils are confounded like those of the builders of bab old, our states on the point of separation, only to meet hereafter for purpose of cutting one another's throats. i consents to this constitution because i expect no better. and because i am not sure that it is not the best. the opinions i have had. as i sacrifice to public good. i have never whispered a syllable of them abroad. within these walls they were born and here they shall die, if every one of us to report objections he had to it. we might prevent is being generalry received and lose all affects great

advantages. as well as among ourselves from our real or apparent. much of the strength and efficiency of any government in procuring and securing happiness to the people, depends on opinion. on the general republican on the goodness of the government as well of wisdom and inof governors i hope for our own sakes, we shall act in recommending this constitution. wherever our influence may extend. in the whole i cannot help expressing a wish every member of the convention would with me, to make manifest put his name to this instrument. they almost all did, 39 did, three did not.

3 who i respect greatly, including george mason. why did he vote against the constitution? pause high b high -- he believed there should be a bill of rights, they later on did. a battle was waged after this convention, adopted the constitution. and it started with antifederalists. they wrote what is called today anti-federalist papers. and they were written under -- >> they wrote well, they raised objections.

supporters of the constitution, got sick but mod madison and hamilton carried most of the water, they duked it out. and so what happened in the constitution was ratified. it was not easy, new york, massachusetts and virginia it was in doubt whether the constitution would pass. then certain great men stood up. and defended it, against other great men, but they stood up. they defen defended it. it was ratified, the vote 187 to 168 it was that close. in new hampshire it was ratified, 57 to 47.

it was that close. and june 25, 1788, after new hampshire, virginia ratified 89-79. it was that close. because two of the great leaders opposing the constitution were patrick henry and george mason. they were up against people like madison and so forth. in new york it was ratified 30 to 27. the constitution we have today almost was not ratified. now, those who lost the vote did not go around and try to desdestroy the constitution or the men who supported the constitution. they decided to do what benjamin franklin said, administer, as well as they could. mason's objection to bill of

rights had a lot of support, they came up with 17 amendments in house of representatives, they sent them to senate and widdled them down to 12, 12 were sent to states for ratification, and 10 were adopted, your bill of rights which was added to the constitution of the u.s., they wanted to govern and liberty, and these men wanted to protect their country from foreign enemies, they wanted commerce to work. for most part these were virtuous people. do we have virtuous people today? who are our great leaders in congress today? who are the great members of the house of representatives in congress today. congress? there are many, 6 people votes present the other day, despite the fact i think that all rules they wanted into the weeds and details they got.

but they told us, they didn't want mccarthy to be speaker of the house. that is fine. but the problem is you have an extremely close vote. and if it wasn 't mccarthy it wasn't going to be anyone else. like you, i watched it for 4 days and 15 votes. there was nobody else. nobody else would stand up. and anyone who would, could not get the votes. meanwhile, the enemy of this republic, the biden administration, the democrats, our stasi, department of justice, and department of homeland security keep chu chugging along, this is what was infuriating me about this, we have these rules now, right, what are they going to do about that?

guess what, three weeks from now, you won't care about the rules or know about the rules or anything, you will want wonder the same things, what are we doing about energy and climate change marxism and secure the border. i will read are from barry bear b. >> he said, future to be is frightening as it is hopeful. as positive as it is negative, all depends on our attitude and commitment and dedication, as we embark and move toward challenges of tomorrow. which are also the challenges of today. the maintenance of individual freedom. always been man's greatest challenge and will forever fall in this category, if we

base our effort to the past, and use the past, and treat what has gone before as prolong as something we learn for primary purpose of making us equal to task ahead, we'll proceed firmly and surely, probably major reason i have attempted to write this book to add to library of conservative publication, that the failure of so-called liberalism, makes it necessary for the people of this country to do some we'll thinks and searching for philosophy, in their opinion will solve problems today and prevent problems of tomorrow, the size -- this is 50 years ago, influence of federal government, against which conservatives have been warning for years has grown almost out of hand. he gives a long list. of the problems. they are the same problems we face today. more than half a century later.

so people are cheering for one side or the other. it is a lot more complicated. i just want to warn the republicans in the house, if your majority deteriorates to personal attacks, in to getting nowhere, to getting in the weeds, about this rule or that rule or another rule, while 10,000 illegal aliens cross our borders, while fentanyl is killing 10,000 of our young people every month and fbi trying to chase down people who believe in life and opposed to abortion and threatening parents and department of justice trying to indict a former president of united states and destroying our economic system and our constitutional system, you could all declare victory from what took place last week, god bless you, but if you don't unite to fight tyranny, the people will tyranny, the people will rise up against you.

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mark: welcome back america, one of most important committees in next two years is the house oversight committee. they will have their work cut out for them, incoming

chairman from kentucky james comer how are you sir. >> well. mark: let me ask you to start, your relationship with the speaker kevin mccarthy. you are the incoming chairman of this committee, has he put any limits on you . >> or said, you know, run with it? >> he said run with ity thi. i think he has confidence in me, i am serious well wasteful spending and run away bureaucracy and unaccountable bureaucrats, he has given moo me they cans keys. we'll get our roster filled. and we'll hit the ground running. mark: before i ask you what are top three priorities, subpoena power you mentioned. how does that work? different committees are different. and different congresses are

different. how does that work with your committee. >> chairman of the house oversight committee has s subpoena power, i have to get general counsel in speaker's office to sign off on that. that is where the problems have been in the past. you have heard them say before. the reason that speaker general counsel signs on, if it goes to court they are the actual entity that represents the oversight commit my court, that is where it is paid for out of the republican majoritiy legal fund and things like that. i expect to be in court a lot because unfortunately i don't have as much confidence as i wish i had with respect to some of the people that we'll be subpoenaing, actually complying with the subpoenas right away. mark: to this a little bit.

what are the top priorities of your committee. do you have just a group of things you are going after see seemt simultaneously. >> all of the ppp loans. the infrastructure bill, there is not been a single hearing in the house of representatives that would identify any wasteful spending, you just assume it is going well, we know that is not true, we know about has been hundreds of millions that went to fraud in the unemployment systems in all 50 states we know that their were ppp loans obtained through phony accounts and foreign accounts, we know that there are a lot of things that have been spent in the name

of education that had nothing to do with covid funds they were intended to used for. we're two years behind, because the democrats did not hold hearing with respect to spending, i am concerned about trillions wasted in covid, and about southern border. we've been meeting we had whistle blowers with border patrol that tell us different things that mayorkas told them with respect to standing down at the border. mayorkas knows very well, the problem that this administration has created on the southern border, yet they continue to allow for what is an open border policy, we'll deal with a lot of border issues. we're also concerned from an investigative stand point about the biden famil fafamily influence, we

believe that administration could be compromised there is a lot of investigative responsibility we'll be under going, we have sent letters out to people. we want to bring people in to start doing transcribed interviews next week. mark: the white house said, we're not responding to the other stuff. start over. they will try to drag it out through two year term of the republicans in house of representatives. how do you fight that? aggressively in court, right? >> aggressively in court. that is plan b, plan a was to withhold their funding, senators did us no favors bypassing that omnibus

spending bill, we hoped they would passed a continued resolution, punt until january, let me bring some of these bureau bureaucrats in with respect to questions abuse of tax dollars, senate for whatever reason decided to fully fund every agency for next 9 months, that was a tool in our tool box we have to withhold fun funding. we'll do things in the house to give us more tools to identify specific agents and bureaucrats to withhold their funding in future, we'll use sou subpoena power, it is a shame to have to. we're identify several inspects generals that are very effective that are concerned about wasteful

spending in their cabinets and agencies. we have already been meeting with them, we're ready to start having hearings and bring people in to be interviewed and further ahead to be deposed. mark: we'll be right back. ♪ ice works fast... to freeze your pain and your doubt. ♪ heat makes it last. so you'll never sit this one out. icy hot pro with 2 max-strength pain relievers. ♪ ♪ charlotte! charl! every day can be extraordinary with rich, creamy, delicious fage total yogurt.

jon: welcome to fox news live, i am jon scott in new york, president biden on his way to mexico city after making his first visit to

the border. his first as president. he met there with local leader tomorrow president will convene with his mexican counterpart and e canada prime minister. >> white house expresses support for brazilian president lula. thousands protested his election, rioters support the former leader who has yet to accept defeat one week after lula's inauguration, some call for for a military intervention, i'm jon scott, now back to "life, liberty and levin." mark: welcome back, we're with incoming chairman of the house over site committee. a very important committee, can congressman james comer.

you will coordinate with jim jordan and others as necessary to focus your resources and overlay the information as necessary, some will go through it to see if it is relevant? >> yes, sir. jim jordan also on the oversight committee, we communicate daily. our staffs coordinate together, judiciary staff and oversight staff, we have a great working relationship. a lot of what we're doing with respect to the biden family influence investigation is overlapping with what jim jordan and judiciary committee are doing with the fbi and doj investigation, one of the first groups of people we hope to have in front of the oversight committee to be interviewed will be the three twitter employees

implicated by elon musk in the first twitter dump, they provided erst evidence that fbi was bemean the twitter censures laptop story. they knew there was damaging evidence for joe biden on there we want to know what went on with that we'll work closely with jim jordan's judiciary committee on that, they are thel lead of agency, this deals with biden family influence investigation, there will not be a problem with jim jordan and i we work together very closely. >> who will be looking at this january 6 committee and information they gathered. and despite that information, they gather nothing on nancy pelosi, and turning down national guard that was offered to them by president trump and all the rest. the story about securing the

building has never been investigated. >> that is a great question, i get asked that a lot in rules package that we'll be voting on next week, there is a new select committee, that will be under the judiciary committee, that will be focused on a lot of the doj litt li li li litt i believe many in our conference feel were not properly investigated will be investigated, by the select committee that is lead by jim jordan. focused on what we've been frustrated with. mark: have you already sent

out a bunch of what i call, protective orders to the various agencies and departments? if they destroyed things in defiance, you could actually hole them in contempt of congress? >> yes. we have sent out numerous preservation of document requests. and every agency in the federal government, that needs to be investigated. has received multiple requests for documents. we knew they would play minority card on us as they did a few days ago, that is incorrect. let's -- we knew it. but at the very least, we covered our tracks and said you must preserve these documents, you must preserve the correspondents between this bureaucrat and that bureaucrat to make sure that once we did get the gavel, and we would be able to get

that information. mark: let me ask you a final question. national archives. i'm hoping you folks will look at how they haveeir rules t presidents. past secretaries of state. past attorney generals, i don't believe that no past president or vice president or attorney general or secretary of state does not have some document at home or did not destroy some document, i do not believe that is, that something you will look into? >> yes, in fact, national archives is under your j jurisdiction in oversight committee. i was top republican, i had to be there. chairwoman was maloney of new york we were only two last time they came before the committee, they never really made any news, you are right we have gone back

and investigated every president and vice president has inadd -- taken documents with them, there was never a raid on their private residents, i believe, i don't have evidence we'll look into this, but i believe that raid on mar-a-lago was triggered by january 6 committee, just doing a fishing expedition to see if they could find anything to use against donald trump, that was wrong, every request we made to national archives they referred to us merrick garland, they are not in a good position with republicans now, there is another agency. that i was wanting to withhold their funding until they came in front of us, and answered a lot of our questions, but senate again did not d do us any favors, september 30 we'll be here before you know it we'll demand they give us answers, as to what went on

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mark: welcome back america, our guest congressman chip roy from texas, a member of the judiciary committee, mmember off the freedom caucus.

i want to ask you, a question, we've known each other a long time now. now you pretty much have rules you want, 90% perhaps? >> we got a lot of good things in this deal. thanks for having me on. you know the rules that we got. they go back for a little bit, this is all predicated on fixing this town, you and i have been fighting this beast for a long time. to get your arms around it, you have to have power in hands of rank and file members of the body, idea way back a number of months ago for us to fix house to have the power to do what i have not been able to do since i've been in washington, offer amendments and a say in debate, we got changes, sys single subject bills, 72 hours to read bills that will be enforced, ability to offer amendment on the floor in open debate to cut spending, and we were able to get agreements we would limit

spending to 22 levels. as part of this overall agreement with the speaker. now the speaker, and these are fundamental changes that will allow to us change things, importantly on rules make sure there are conservatives on rules committee to actually affect what goes to the floor, the rules committee is nerd speak, the committee that funnels stuff to the floor of the house. we'll have conservative representation on that committee now, we can help control we get good bills to the floor and advance wh conservative bills, the reforms are critical and significant. mark: in last few days in last day, with the few holdouts, were one of these rules at stake? or did you have it all together already in your deal, but we had people holding out? that is my sense. >> truth, a lot of this stuff was not actually

ironed out until last 48 hours. back to last saturday. it took all this time to agree to the vacate the chair of 5 days, and then this week, we moved that one day. that is the -- one person vacate. that is what was always in jeffe jefferson's rule that talk to us this week to get that done, that matters to to have abaccountability on the speaker. but we had to ink the deal on making sure we had conservative representation, that was not in there we had to ink deal on church committee, jaime comer just talked about, that was not

this there, have we to describe what it would be, jurisdiction to go after vast array of all agencies and be sure to have specifics with respect to spending restriction that would limit spending to fy 22 levels and not allow for a debt limit increase, that took this time to get to that agreement. and we would never have been able to do that if some of us had not held out, including some that were you know more stubborn and open about it, it takes breaking eggs to get things. mark: last 6 still voted present, they said why they didn't want him as speaker that simple. one took 2 million from his pac. just a few months ago and one took 1.9 million. one opposed convention of

states in arizona, a big issue with me. let me get back to this. now you have most of the rules you wanted. are we getting most of the things we want? you only control one body and you barely control that. >> let me address real quick list of folks. we agree -- let me say those individuals, even though we reached a different conclusion, they have doubts about kevin mccarthy based on a long track record, we had to reach an agreement, they worked in good faith to try to force change, they didn't get to same conclusion on voting for kevin but we got to deal we tuck together. bob good is a good man, andy bigs is say good man and rosen dale and crane, they are strong conservatives. mark: but you know what, chip, lets me say, i just hope 6 liberal republicans, don't say uni don't like

mccarthy or something, then they walk out. we another problem. >> on that point, we -- this week made great progress. i sat in a room last 72 hours, with great friends of mine now, brian fitzpatrick, he is on the other side of ideological spectrum of republican party or garrett graves or french hill, we sat in a room for hours, we made really good progress. a lot of agreement in unity came out of this i said from the beginning, this was about trying to fight now. to get out same page with the rules that will enable to us fight for american people, now to answer your question, no we'll not be able to get all of these things done in a world where we're in a barely thin majority in house and chuck schumer runs senate, and joe biden and white house, is unable to put two sentences

together. we'll have oversight, ja james comer will do a good job and jim jordan, we have broad power to go after the weaponization of government. we can set terms for how we now spend money and control the power of the purse to force change, even if senate rejects it we e end up with a cr we have changed culture of the house of representatives and cut house -- stop the house from cutting bad deals, i don't want mitch mcconnell to make the house bend to his will, i want us to make senate bend to our will, even if we get to a cr by january of 2025 when we have a republican president. mark: circle back on this it sounds great. but i know you will have people in your own caucus who will not go along at some point when the rubber

hits the road, i know you will face down individuals in the senate, and i will are curious to see how that plays out, i think this is just the beginning, i think you will agree there will be many battles 20 con in conference or senate, you will lose some of them, that is okay. but you if you have 5 people that walk away, you will never get any where, i will talk about that when we come back. (tony hawk) skating for over 45 years has taken a toll on my body. i take qunol turmeric because it helps with healthy joints and inflammation support. why qunol? it has superior absorption compared to regular turmeric. qunol. the brand i trust.

mark: welcome back america, we're here with congressman chip roy, a friend mine, who was crucial in the negotiations over the rules. congressman from texas member of the judiciary committee, i love about chip, he has integrity. he is not a drama queen, not out there trying to position himself for fund raise off this stuff. this is who he is. and always been. chip roy, let me ask you, i don't think that any of your rules have anything to do with impeachment. we had -- this is affecting national security, health and well being of our

society. why is this such an afront an afront to raise impeachment with someone like this. >> it should not be, i am telling you, being on front lines and feeling impact on the borders, i could go on and on. cartels and -- it is devastating, we know that secretary has been lying, that secretary has lead lied to congress, he should be impeached. the problem we'll have, there is a bloc of republicans who will be hesitant to say it is a high crime or misdemeanor that is wrong, i think that at point when you have an individual ignores their constitutional duty, that is impeachable, i

have been making the case for that for about a year, i hope we'll go through that and investigate it, i know that speaker wants to jim jordan would like to lock at this, we do have a few republicans who are hesitant, we have to make the case, i think we can get them across the time, it clear he has disregarded his oath and removed from office. mark: you are on the judiciary committee, that is a crucial committee under jim jordan. i importantly would want their communications over last several years to see if they have been politicized. you have an fbi that is targeting parents and pro lifers. you have your plate full there. do you think you will be able to dig in hard? >> i believe so, i believe critical to that is having jim jordan. and jaime comer, and to dive into these but that select

subcommittee, the church style commit wable to get by negotiations. mark: was someone opposed to your church style committee. >> early on there was no interest in makes that specific kind of committee to go after that. now it is -- we agree, jim agrees, and speaker, we have it there it took work, now there is a lot of interest in, that we could have all hearings we want, we know if we don't use power of purse to stop bureaucratting from doing this crap, 400 million to a new fbi headquarters we have stop that and have hearing on september 30 we fund this garbage since mitch mcconnell took tool away from us, 18 republicans they need to feel the pain and house needs too their job to force it down senate throat, sand up for american people. -- stand up for american people that is what the fight has been bi am proud,

now we must do the work. mark: chip roy, texas thank you my friend, god bless. >> you god bless you, my friend, take care. mark: we'll be right back. here. aspercreme arthritis. full prescription-strength? reduces inflammation? thank the gods. don't thank them too soon. kick pain in the aspercreme. good news! a new clinical study showed that centrum silver supports cognitive health in older adults. it's one more step towards taking charge of your health. so every day, you can say... ♪ youuu did it! ♪ with centrum silver.

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mark: hello america, welcome back, well, we had the skirmish last week, it was worth? we'll find out. i'm not opposed to these philosophical battles if they lead to somewhere, my concern is that you could have six members on the left, republican or moderates who try to gum up the works, we have unifee unity for this hour, i expect them to advance our agenda the best kay can, i fear they have made promises they cannot keep, one body out of two in congress.

they have biden, who is issuing a executive order like lolly pops, they have their work cut out for them, i intend to support them as much as i can, if they are moving in the right direction and i will oppose them if they are not, see you next time on "life, liberty and levin." >> breaking tonight astonishingly it is now clear that joe biden really is going to go through with it. ever seen out the carpet, dishonest embarrassment of the president really is running for a second term. what other conclusion is there to draw? of his otherwise empty and totally point list bumble around the border today? good evening and happy new year. welcome to "the next revolution".