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deserve it. mark fuhrman, thank you very much, thank you for watching "the faulkner focus," "outnumbered" is now. >> fox news alert, we are waiting the white house briefing that is set to begin later this hour as the fallout continues over president biden's handling of classified documents. the attorney general now appointing a special counsel to investigate the discovery. hello, everyone, this is "outnumbered," i am emily compagno here at cheryl casone, jessica tarlov, tomi lahren, and lawrence jones. now classified documents were found in three separate locations connected to president biden, his former office at the penn-biden center in washington and two spots in his wilmington home, his garage and personal library. e.g. garland tapping former term pup pointed officer robert hurt to lead the investigation into the situation. and confirm to the american
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people that none of these locations were secure. meaning that documents found were in violation of national security policy and potentially u.s. national security law. but the president insists that the documents found in his locked garage were kept safe, because that's where he keeps his classic corvette stingray. the white house trying to clean up this colossal mess made by the president while facing mounting pressure to release a visitor law from his home in wilmington. karine jean-pierre facing a series of harsh questioning from reporters. watch. >> what is the white house trying to hide? >> nothing. >> when will the white house release a log of visitors to the wilmington house? >> you know, peter, you have asked this question or your colleagues have before, let's not forget what we did here in this white house. we instituted something that the last demonstration got rid of which is putting out to the
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white house, making sure that there was a white house blog, extensive white house log. >> why were these classified documents being stored in his garage? >> not just me, he has said this, you have heard him say it twice already and he has said this before, classified documents and information, he takes that very seriously. >> i'm telling you i'm not going to get ahead of what the department of justice is going to decide, this is something that you all know that he will not shy away from saying and has continued to say this week, and again, he was surprised that these records had been found. >> emily: it does not matter if you take classified documents seriously or if you are surprised by their location, what matters is whether or not they were stored at a secure or unsecure location, and as i read in the intro, the attorney general has confirmed every single location was unsecured. >> tomi: i think his defense
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has been i love my car, if i love my car at a must love the documents and they received a lot of love in my garage, we know where we put the things that are not worthy of being in the home, we put them in the garage and unfortunately that's where he thought that sensitive information should be put is his garage, but i think more importantly we need to look at the time line, who knew what twin? because this was back in november in early november before the midterms when they made such a big deal about donald trump and the fbi raid and has classified documents and they had this information on biden's classified documents and did not report it and reveal it, that is really problematic, because it really could have changed a midterm season that was very tight, very close and very focused on donald trump, that's the biggest issue i take with all of this is that timeline. >> emily: that is absolutely right, and to piggyback on that, there are questions regarding what the attorney general knew when he was naming a special counsel for the mar-a-lago classified document situation with president trump come he might at that time have full
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wall known about the situation with president biden. i must as well note to that just now during the bilateral summits with the japanese prime minister, there were shouted questions at president biden and he declined to respond to any of them. >> it is amazing that the president finally understands that now he is under criminal prosecution and perhaps he should be quiet, because what we witnessed yesterday, because peter doocy was asking the questions as he does every single day. it was a confession from the president. i'm not understanding why there is a debate at this point, the president confessed to having ossified material and his garage, we know garage is not a secure area, this is no longer a debate, there will be criminal prosecution if there is equal justice under the law, that should take place, but i want to comment on some of the things we have heard from different pendants and people on the other side of the aisle, the same people who obviously had so much glee when they went after a donald trump, they said that these are apples to apples, they are really not to.
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the former president had the ability of the classifying, that is his defense right now, we have a current president was who was the vice president, may have wanted to be president, but he was not at the time and had no authority to do that. so again, i went to see what the media is going to do on this, the fbi was still willing to leak information the last investigation, wyatt wasn't there any media cameras at all when this was playing out? because the fbi never conducted a raid, the moment they figured out that there was as they say they reported to the national archive, there should've been raids on all of its properties, all of its offices, and that did not take place, so you have a lot of americans asking, why is there one standard for the former president who is actually president at the time and not -- there is a difference for joe biden. >> cheryl: "the wall street journal" as was pointed out that this could be two investigations and how the issues were handled versus
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president biden's issues, same issue going to be handled, but i have to say, curious to see what merrick garland's investigation brings, i'm going to wait for that. i do want to see if it will be handled by the book, we shall see, great men and women that work at the fbi, i know we have talked about the web weaponization from a political standpoint, but the other side ise that the leak was these documents, because we have seen such a difference of how they treated then president trump versus how they treated now president biden and i have to say that they are covering this, they are leading with it, they are asking the questions as you just saw on briefing room, so happy to see that. >> i want to ask you a question, because he bring up a good point, we are so gleeful the news is covering this, such a low expectation that we have, at least they are covering it, furthermore i want to say this and i wonder what jessica thinks as the lone democrat on the couch, do you think that they are ready to throw joe biden under the bus because they don't want him to be the nominee in 2024 so they don't care if this
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looks bad for him? they are eyeing other candidates probably gavin newsom in california, so maybe this is where it starts, two years before 2024 they feel like they have to put up joe, but if he is implicated in something like this it's easy for them to wipe their hands clean and say we are going for gavin newsom, that is what i think as a conspiracy theorist, that's what i think it's going to happen. >> whenever there is a leak coming ask who does this benefit and right now there are a lot of questions being raised at potentially this benefiting the rest of the establishment of democrat party that perhaps he is joe biden as having outlasted his welcome. >> jessica: everybody considered it, it showed up now inserted at the beginning of november, how does the timeline work, i think that people that are supporters and people who are not supporters once a clear timeline. that's how you can piece together this entire puzzle. merrick garland has been obsessed with looking impartial. has even aggravate the
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aggravated democrats who won him to be more partisan, you're the democratic ag, bill barr was a republican ag and clearly not doing that, he moved at what seems like warp speed to make sure that there was a special counsel for president biden just like there was a special counsel for former president trump, so i am interested in the timeline, because it will reveal if any of this was possibly coming from the democratic establishment, i'm not a conspiracy theorist, i'm not putting that out there, so -- >> tomi: i don't think they planted it, i just think it's an easy way for them to say -- >> jessica: especially since you should decide or publicly announce. >> lawrence: i will not say warp speed, it was after the reports were available to the public that he started to -- >> jessica: tuesday to thursday is fast, that's when we first heard about the story. >> emily: sorry, go ahead. >> jessica: i'm not defending what president biden did it is
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wrong, compromising our security and there are people with lower-level jobs who are in jail for less, right, so let's make that clear, the situation still remains very different, so i was rereading what happened when we finally found out what was going on with former president trump, and the national record's office contacted the trump team four months after he left office, so a good year and a half before the mar-a-lago raid, and said we are missing information, can you please give it back, then four months dancing around where they were cooperating at some points and then saying actually, we are not cooperating in the final straw was in may when there were set to come to mar-a-lago and pick up documents and they called it off. so yes, they decided merrick garland signed off on the warrant that they had to go in there and get which he should not have had at mar-a-lago, we can see where the chips will fall with president biden, but these ideas that they are the same. >> lawrence: they are not the
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same, one is the ability to be classified information -- >> jessica: waving his hand over everything. it >> lawrence: that should be litigated, that can be done in the court of law or both parties can present their defense, instead they wanted to create a spectacle, and how did the press know that they were doing this raid? why was cnn they are in the middle of the night to make sure they got it -- >> jessica: was not in the middle of the night? they waited until he is not there, he was in new york. i actually don't think that the press didn't know. >> lawrence: they were just waiting there miraculously to catch it on tape? >> emily: there is clear that it has been a bias, president trump over president biden. >> jessica: president trump said that they may have planted themselves, gone over our law enforcement institutions over and over and over again, smacking down about the credibility to the point that the special counsel, and the new one, the trump appointee is not good enough for people on the
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right because -- >> lawrence: just like members of "the view" were saying was planted, we can go back and forth on both sides, but the problem is we don't have to do that anymore, joe biden has admitted to it, we know a garage is not secure. we expect criminal prosecution, he does not even have a defense at this point. >> emily: i want to make clear some touchstones for viewers before we conclude, there's so much more to cover and discussed, there is national security policy and the national security law, we know absolutely policy was broken, remains to be seen the results of the investigation whether we can publicly say that the law was broken, we know that there is civil liability, criminal liability, many things, but raising all the questions to the degree of the threat to national security, to the degree of the infringement on national security which in the politicized nation of this gets lost because the american people, all of us who suffer equally if china, if anyone had access to these documents that are now being found in the back of the badminton sets next to a
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bicycle and a car, so the questions remain, what will come up of the wilmington house log, the visitor log, who had access, why were they there? that all goes towards the level of piercing national security, and that grave threat that it encompasses, but to your point absolutely policy was broken, we will see investigative lee whitelaw and what will happen moving forward with that, because we can't say that yet with absolute conclusion. >> jessica: and who traipsed through mar-a-lago. >> emily: same thing, we hold every president to the same standard and this can become the standard which is finding classified documents under the bottom of your shoe and the bathroom coming out okay. so much more to cover, transportation secretary pete buttigieg with growing backlash of the faa meltdown that grounded all air travel in america. we are learning more about what happened and why it should never have happened in the first place. the details next. ♪ ♪ veteran homeowners, if you want to lower your
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>> cheryl: transportation secretary pete buttigieg facing growing backlash that brought all flights to a standstill, caused by a single engineering, telling abc news that the engineer replace one file with another during routine scheduled system maintenance, not realizing the mistake was being made. the issue led to a wave of delays and cancellations and nationwide ground stops since the september 11 terror attacks, and pete buttigieg was made multiple promises to improve experiences for travelers and follow short, more and more headlines calling out his troubles, axios riding this, historic transportation crises, wall street calling at his big
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airline glitch, and bloomberg out with a new piece, his ambitions dented by air travel meltdown. sometimes i wonder if pete buttigieg and transportation secretary because he is a good-looking young guy and just smiles a lot, because he has been in my opinion a complete failure so far. >> tomi: or they've had a nice profile coming up high hopes for them any hope that they deliver and sometimes it does not work out, and that is certainly the case with pete buttigieg, but what are his qualifications to have this role, the former mayor of south bend, indiana, and then he failed presidential candidate, i mean, really not much in the way of securing a transportation or doing any anything. >> cheryl: i was focusing on, good looking guy, i will say that, but focusing on the fact that if you look at his resume and his qualifications, he cannot get potholes fixed when he was the mayor of southbound, so i think that that is another journalist pointing out the fact that he keeps these big platitudes coming out between his interview saying we are going to take care of the
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problem, we are on it, but we had two massive travel meltdowns, and he has, that's what i'm saying, i think he is coming up short in the job, emily. it's beyond harsh criticism and accurate was his lack of experience for the presidential candidacy and here as well, and we are seeing fundamental multiple failures under his watch, you can rights to the occasion or predictably fail and it also is under the overlay of him traveling to portugal walden union rail strikes strikes were being really -- while everyone had their sleeves rolled up and to get into it and him doing a selfie in the airport and pretending like he was on american soil to get a private jet to canada to receive an award to further lgbtq rights while the system is crumbling i have to point out that today, exactly today is the five year anniversary of the threat in hawaii, the accidental ballistic missile threat and remember that was a slight error, just like here where oh, i am sorry, one
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guy clicked the wrong button and it grounds everything, and it underscores the vulnerability of the system, their fragility of it and why it is so detrimental to all of us when all of these energies and budgeting are being put towards call this person this name now and named the center after pelosi, but let's not address the failing vintage hardware that hallmarks or comprises the entire travel system, so i personally and frightened and am working for the future, because their priorities will be in the wrong place just like the judge. >> we all on this couch or frequent travelers, but i have to say that delta and jetblue said we could have operated earlier this week without ground stop, because they had systems in place to get around that that gives pilots the information, at the same time to that point, technology, all of the money that we have spent, all of that bailout money that went to the airlines and all of the money
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going to the faa, the transportation department in general and the systems are a complete failure, and one engineer who will probably get fired at this point sadly is going to take the brunt of it. >> lawrence: the government does not do anything well, i'm not surprised in fairness to mayor pete, but there is something to tommy's point about identity, the left needs to understand that identity background, your race is a part of your story, it is not the complete picture of the story, now when you have an administration that on day one wanted that photography of their cabinets looking like america and not highlighting that this was going to be the most competent administration while still looking like america, i think it is problematic, and we see this time and time again, it's not just mayor pete, it is kamala harris not fit for a lot of the role she is given, the borders are but has not done anything for the border, you have karine jean-pierre in the briefing room, everybody knows if they are honest, just not
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confident enough of the job. everybody knows when things hit the fan they send apple kirby in there to do the job, but he does not get the title, so this is not just a write off problem, this is a liberal ideology problem, pick people that look like america, but also can do the job if you are so passionate about diversity, because when you don't you ruin it for the next person behind you. >> jessica: i'm curious on everyone's thoughts on ben carson as hud secretary, genius surgeon, i can't separate conjoined twins, wears his qualification to be housing secretary? bueller? i'm not talking about that, what did he do, what did he accomplish -- people from -- i am very conscious obviously that you are black, lawrence, and i am white, i am making this point and treading carefully, but giving people from traditionally disadvantaged groups who have been underserved
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who have not had these opportunities the chance to do something and to be prominent and to be the face of something is something that is important, and something that makes america great, there are people all over this country who are gay, straight, and excited by the fact that we have pete buttigieg and chest and buddha judge in a position of power, they are out there as two gay dads, people taking paternity leave, one of their kids was on a ventilator, i'm so sick of him jerking his details, i'm a new mom, this makes me overly passionate, if my daughter was on a ventilator, you could not get me into any meeting, i don't care the headlines from "the daily caller" saying, oh, pete buttigieg was not responding to meetings, your kid is on event, you get a pass for that, i don't care. so tell me about ben carson -- it's not, it's not, that it's these criticisms basically what they are saying is his qualification is that he is gay.
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>> lawrence: what was the qualification to do the job? >> jessica: pete buttigieg is one of the more competent people in this country. >> lawrence: and we are seeing it. >> jessica: he is not doing well -- 's before he is not doing well in this role, nothing to do with that, he is just not doing well. >> cheryl: we will take a quick break, pay some bills, come back. the loss of rock royalty, lisa lee presley, elvis presley's child died at the age of 54, two days after her appearance at the old and globes, what we are hearing from her mother priscilla as the tributes pour in.
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times including to the king of pop, michael jackson, and also to oscar-winning actor nicolas cage, presley's mother priscilla saying she is the most passionate, strong, loving woman i've ever known, this tragedy happening two days after presley attended the golden globes to celebrate the movie about her father. austin butler portrayed elvis and paid an emotional tribute to her, watch. >> thank you for believing in me. lisa marie priscilla, i love you forever. you can at least play suspicious minds or something. spin your father grew up in memphis and you had special memories they are? >> cheryl: they used to call it elvis ee, that's the nickname he wanted, and he left to go because of all of the girls around. and i know how broken i was when elvis passed away, and i felt the same way about his daughter, because that family has had so much tragedy in such a gifted --
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she was very gifted in a very beautiful person and i think the whole thing is really heartbreaking, it's a big loss today. >> emily: sometimes it seems like families like that you wonder are they marked by a special form of tragedy, she lost her son to suicide before she passed away, and there has been a remarkable string of that, or is that like every family and this is just one that we know about because they are music royalty. >> lawrence: it's incredibly sad, seems like we are losing so many celebrities, and i think that one thing we have to remember about her is how protective of her father's legacy she was and making sure we honored his memory and how much of a performer he was. it is just so sad to see, they look so fine on the red carpet, she goes there, and then the next day, just shows you how precious life is somatic it is, you can be here one day and gone the next. >> emily: and you met priscilla. >> tomi: i met priscilla at politico on many years ago, i don't know she is a conservative or her political leanings, she
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was very kind to me and was a fan of mine, my dad is a big elvis presley fan, going back to what lauren said, we see all of these headlines in the news and it just reminds you that you can be here today, gone tomorrow, and you have to live every day like it's your last, it's a very cliched thing to say but i think that it drives at home, when you see someone born an icon, she was born in icon and will always be an icon, always be historic and always something that we think about or remember her father, her, their legacy, and it really drives home the point that whether you are a celebrity or not, any day could be your last, and this is just very sad for that family. >> emily: i keep thinking about priscilla, losing her husband, the love of your life, her grandson, and now her only daughter. it's really heartbreaking, multiple levels. >> jessica: you wonder how much tragedy a person can kind of absorb and keep going, i mean, the human spirit is remarkable and she will continue on, but that is heartbreak no one should go through. and also the timing of this, i'm thrilled that she was able to be at the golden globes and see
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a clearchoice day changes every day. schedule a free consultation. >> cheryl: the adjunct professor from hamline university in minnesota is speaking out after losing her job, erika lopez was not asked to return after showing her students a painting of the prophet mohammed, she warned students on several different occasions that the imagery will be shown in class and included it in the course syllabus and gave students the opportunity to leave the room on the day of the showing. but a student complained saying she was "harmed" by seeing the image, the university decided not ask the lecturer back and has doubled down, the school's president speaking out saying this, prioritizing the well-being of our students does not in any way negate or minimize the right to privileges assured by academic freedom, the concepts intersect, faculty can have the right to teach and research subjects of importance
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to them and to publish their work under the proverbial of their peers come at the same time academic freedom does not operate in a vacuum. now the professor has hired a lawyer and is breaking her silence. >> you can't erase history, and i think that it is actually important that we teach and demonstrate to the diversity within the history of islam, which is a very -- in my opinion underrepresented and misunderstood religion. we can build bridges and open up more really deep thought and conversation rather than shutting down dialogue. >> cheryl: so emily, there are a lot of things in history that are offensive and horrible that go back centuries, but an image, and the students were warned and then one student pushes back, where does this end? >> emily: and this particular
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piece of art data back to the 14th century, son not even a new image, i would like to focus for a moment on the presidents doubling down, because to me that was actually the most disturbing part and here's why, they come out with a very long letter, we don't have time to read it, but they go point by point, one, they say the media coverage is false because people are reporting she was fired or terminated, or contract was fulfilled and we declined to renew, and that reminded me of so many retaliatory and retaliation lawsuits, right, where the employer specifically builds it as such and has that as their defense, we declined to renew, without failing to articulate exactly why, and i think on its face given the events that unfolded it is pretty obvious y, and secondly the president says all of you say that academic freedom is so important, and they say, here, it does not operate in a vacuum which you ride and they go on to say that the professional aspect of it that a teacher has to act professionally in their scholarly research, their teaching and interactions with
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students somehow defending that that trumps academic freedom, number one in that email at the time, the president said essentially that the propensity to offend muslim american students outweighed academic freedom, that was the quotes, and secondly you want to talk about acting professionally, this professor warned students in the beginning, explained it in the syllabus, gave everyone a chance again in class to discuss it and then before showing it highlighted again, gave everyone an opportunity, pause to leave the classroom, i can't imagine a more professional way of presenting a 14th century piece of art, i could go on. >> cheryl: what is happening at universities across this country right now? and just where does this stop? i mean, everybody can find something to be offended by it. i'm offended that people like dogs more than cats, but i am not going to make a federal case about it, i'm sorry. so where does this stop? because we have to get back to civility. and this is just i think going too far. >> lawrence: i think it is too
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late, i ran campers reform, and we saw this nonsense all the time on college campuses, and it's only going to get more severe, when you have different charts and you decide who can be offended and who can't be and where do you fall on -- what are the triggers are not, this is where it gets us right here, and i think that there is a way to teach academia and being respectful, but you have to learn it's coming have to see it coming have to touch it, that's a part of education, that has changed a lot and i don't see us going back. i think that what parents should be concerned about is this behavior making it to secondary, elementary school, high school, middle school where you can't teach certain things, because we have lost the college campuses. >> tomi: what troubles me is the conditioning of young people to learn that if they have a grievance, if they have taken offense to something that they can ruin somebody else's life by simply saying i take offense to this. and that's what young people are learning, because it is working on this cancel culture is
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infested in our society and it is one thing when it celebrity is and that cancel culture and the social media, it's another thing when you can ruin some of his life in ordinary person simply by saying i am offended, that offend me, this lady's life is probably ruined now, she dedicated her life to this career and profession as emily said, she did everything she could to avoid it probably knowing that this was coming, probably trying to insulate herself and set herself up not to fail and offend somebody come and guess what, some he was still offended, it is the snowflake entitlement generation and until they learn that this "i am offended" handrails does not work it's going to happen and people's lives will be ruined because of it. >> cheryl: i have to add that i looked at the course itself and different religious figures were presented in this classroom, i mean, this was -- the world is full of religions, it is full of different voices, so one person says this offends me, and then she looks like she is out of a job, the university says she was not fired, but it kind of looks that way.
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>> jessica: certainly out of an opportunity, and in academia come it's hard to come by opportunities. it is a fiercely competitive world, and you do have to cater often to whims, like i came out of academia and decided to go into the private sector, but i had tons of friends applying for jobs, and it was hard, hard going. this university is in a particularly difficult spot i think by how small they are, and if they -- let's say they did accept the contract and then there is a spring semester on it and no one signs up, right? you are on the hook paying a professor for something and you don't know the students to go for it, i do think it was this circumstance and one student at a bigger university, my hope was a better funding they would've said, we will discuss your feelings, there is counseling available, you should be meeting with the teacher, we need to talk about freedom of speech and we also need to talk about the course that you signed up for. and that you knew in advance that this was happening. but i hate this.
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i mean, i come to work with people that disagree with me every day, and i was in academia for a very long time and this was something that was taught to me, it's important engage with people that disagree with you, it's the only way you can change hearts and minds. someone else will hire her, but it might not be the kind of university she wants to go teach at and that also. >> cheryl: i was going to say if it's not this opportunity, i hope she gets another one down the line. we will follow that story for all of you at home. we will be right back, in case you missed it, it's coming up next. ♪ ♪ [ coughing/sneezing ] [ door knocking ] dude, you coming? because the only thing dripping should be your style! plop plop fizz fizz, with alka-seltzer plus cold & flu relief. also try for fizzy fast cough relief! when you find that perfect pair, nothin' can stop your shine. because when you feel fly, you look fly. um jamie? i'm pretty sure that was my line. get two pairs of privé revaux plus a free exam for $89.95.
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>> still plenty of questions about unsecured documents in president biden's possession, don't look to the white house for answers, that's why karl rove is here to break down. inflation is finally beginning to slow, so why are prices especially first food still so high, charles payne has thoughts about that, and why is customs and border protection telling officers to back off on chasing some criminal smugglers? brandon judd is here, i am john roberts, joined sandra and me at the top of the hour for the friday edition of "america reports" we will see you soon. >> emily: welcome back, it's time for "in case you missed it" we have seen philip maxine crime
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skyrocketed insidious, and now left with no choice but to get creative or have their businesses robbed blind. sounds like a poor choice to me. one brooklyn deli owner is hoping public shaming will do the trick, thieves of the week video now placed behind his counter and he hopes it will discourage the troublesome group of teens who have repeatedly shoplifted at his store to knock it off, tommy moran, this break my heart at the same time that i applaud it. >> tomi: i love it, isn't it sad you have to go to this length to make a video for yourself because your city is not being protected by the laws that should be enforced to keep it from being ransacked on a daily basis. i love it, will it do any good? i don't know, they might like being celebrity is. that's the sad part. >> emily: that is a good point, my favorite was the 7-eleven owner and operator who blasted classical music outside, so it repelled the gang members, but it was like peaceful on the customers would like i like coming here, whole nice set of home. >> lawrence: this is really
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sad, but they have to take the public shame to a different level, in new york they steal from the big stores and then they sell to the smaller. so you have to go to the smaller stores and highlight them, they are supposed to be business, they should understand that damage, they are creating a marketplace for these criminals, so shamed a thieves and the people that buy from thieves. >> emily: a whole undercurrent of black-market happening as well as every person living in the city is getting robbed blind, especially all of us with our taxes. >> cheryl: as a taxpaying new yorker is still of the city, but man, this makes me sad we are down to this coming he said that those girls on the video, they are minors, and they don't care, and the police will arrest them, saw fox and friends first, he said the police aren't going to arrest the girls because they are minors and they don't care, they really don't care. thieves are in charge in new york city. >> emily: you are born and raised here, do you see the change? to use it is more dangerous, more than ever? >> jessica: i likely have not witnessed anything like that or
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been a part of it, but i talk about it regularly on "the five, that i grew up going on the subway with my mom starting in the baby bjorn, there was always someone to help her, give up your seat, and i don't bring my daughter in the subway, i would not do that come you don't know what you're going to see her what goes on there. so 100%. >> emily: unless your daughter is named smith & wesson. okay, next up, my favorite topic coming ufos, the newly declassified government report, a sudden uptick in siting, but it says that to the majority of the 500 incidents are things like balloons and drones not actually aliens, these declassified video clips are getting alien buzz going into eight recent years, the government still denying any affirmative evidence of any space beings, but 50% means 50 percent is a chance and denying a affirmative evidence does not mean that there is not actual evidence supporting it, so my hope is alive.
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>> jessica: i feel like they should just become acceptable. like there just is a lot going on in the world, it always felt arrogant to me to rule out anything. and now enough has slipped through the cracks where you are like, yeah, you guys are hiding something? >> cheryl: i don't think there are ufos out there! >> emily: now no aliens! >> cheryl: i will say this, and makes for great movies. >> emily: entertainment, love jessica's point, but what hubris to think that we are the only beings out here, god created all of us and his power and imagination is limitless, i'm sure there are tons. >> lawrence: emily, you do not have to sell me, i am the camp, in texas it is really dark, i am open that i see some stuff, instead of being in a city where the lights are everywhere, i want to see it, it's the only thing is me physically seeing myself.
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>> tomi: the good news is if there is anything happening, we know that the government will be completely transparent and accountable for it, so i'm sure any day we will get the information. >> emily: hollywood facing a diversity dilemma, the actor are now putting out the limits of casting for political correctness, he says he was pumped to star as a bad guy and his latest role, but he argues that those spots for nonwhite actors are actually harder to come by these days and says in a recent interview with esquire, that "hollywood now" even though they are trying to be more diverse is exclusive, and he says that they can lead to misguided solutions for example saying if the bad guy is a brown guy, what message is that sending? it's just as limiting as anything else. he also makes it clear that he wants to play more bad guys, so basically the point is that hollywood is hesitant to cast as the villains people of color for fear of offending the audiences. >> tomi: it is all coming full
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circle, pretty soon there will be nobody left to play the roles, it will be artificial intelligence and cgi, so that's coming up. >> emily: or maybe aliens, maybe we can cast aliens. >> lawrence: this is what they get, this is what happens. and offer diversity, but this is what happened, when you cling to one principle instead of the quality of the actor -- >> cheryl: it will come back in hollywood because all they care about is the bottom line. >> emily: would you be cast as the villain or the lead? >> tomi: you are the villain every day at fox news, so. [laughter] >> jessica: i always think that the sidekick it's a fun, because it's not as intensive, but you still get to do it, and you can really shine, it's easier to win best supporting then it is lead. >> lawrence: i don't know, the joker is my favorite character. >> jessica: supporting, not in the joker, but in regular "batman."
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>> last but not least, if you are struggling with dating, it's you that might be the problem. harsh out of the gate, emily. a new survey ranks top five dating deal breakers, and it might be time to make some changes. we say that gently to you. nos are smelling bad, being a know it all, being rude to a server, living in a mess, and being overbearing. lawrence. >> i didn't do any of that. >> these don't strike me as like rocket science. but especially the being kind to servers. to me, that is the biggest indication of whether you are a kind and generous person. >> emily, i don't do that, but i'm still single. i don't do any of that. >> no one is good enough for you. you are amazing. you are amazing. that's what it is. >> just a matter of time. >> you just turned 30, you have plenty of time and you are in
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new york, so -- you know, that could -- go back to texas -- >> i'm not in texas, there you go. >> i'm single, i don't do any of those things, i don't know what my issue is, i'm sure i'll hear about it on twitter. >> i have a theory one living in a mess, my husband, he knows he's incredibly messy, have one person in the relationship that's ocd and cleanly and you can make it work. >> it's all about meeting the match. here is "america reports." >> john: good luck to lawrence, thank you. severe storms plaguing millions across the country, devastating tornadoes ripping through the southeast yesterday killing at least seven people. >> sandra: a tough situation there. a brief break from the torrential downpours, dangerous mudslides, but they are back in full force now in california forcing thousands out of their homes, leaving some neighborhoods completely unrecognizable. fox weather all over the map coming up.

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