>> this is breaking right now, additional five classified documents have found at president biden's wilmington home. he obtain these thursday and immediately taken into justice department custody by officials on scene and 20 pages recovered from the home in wilmington and former office at his washington think tank. i'm gillian turner, bill. bill: a lot to get into. i'm bill melugin.

and the president is at the house in delaware where the documents were found near his corvette. and lucas, the drip, drip, drip, just keeps going, doesn't it? >> just took the words out of my mouth, bill. just a few days ago we learned about the existence of some classified documents first here in the nation's capitol at president biden's think tank and later in the week we lettered that more documents were discovered at president biden's home in wilmington where he's spending the weekend and now minutes ago before coming on air, the white house saying additional documents with classified markings were found at president biden's wilmington home where he is now. the white house insists it never know a special counsel was coming to look into this matter. >> what i can tell you is we're not given a heads-up that attorney general garland made his announcement yesterday on the special counsel and something that we learned like many of you, watching the news.

>> thanks to our colleague beater doocy who was not called on at the briefing, peter doocy. it was near his 1967 # corvette, a gift from his father, and now two days after they were found and days before the midterm elections, the new house republican-controlled judiciary committee wants answers about why mog of these classified documents were not made public before the election. jim jordan writing, it's unclear when the justice department learned about the dew points and whether it actively concealed this information on the eve of the 2022 elections. and looking into the classified documents is notable, a former trump appointed senior justice official. one more on the timeline, merrick garland ordered internal investigation into biden's handling of the classified documents just four

days before announcing that probe into the probe on donald trump's documents. and there's a separation investigation this time into biden's family. >> we have to investigate the biden family for being a national security risk. the biden center for diplomacy was funded almost exclusively from china. >> as you mentioned, bill, president biden spending the weekend at his wilmington residents where some of these classified documents were discovered and there are about 20 documents in all between the nation's capitol here and that wilmington home and half of marked top secret. bill: earlier this week the white house was asked if they intend to release any of the visitor logs to find out who was going to that house in wilmington. i have not heard any answer from the white house in the last couple of days on that. are you hearing anything? >> not right now, but of course, now that there's a republican controlled house you have these committee chairman writing letters urging the white house to release these

visitor logs. remember, the former president, president trump got rid of visitor logs here at the white house and president biden brought them back and released those, but there's no visitor logs made public from wilmington. and that's what people want now that these classified documents have been discovered. many lawmakers, including ken buck, want to know about hunter biden's visits to this residence and some of his associates that were at the home and a lot of questions from lawmakers and they want these documents made public. bill: we'll see where the story takes us next. lucas tomlinson from the white house. thanks. for more on this classified documents debacle, we're joined by republican congressman from arkansas and member of the house intelligence committee and the house transportation and infrastructure committee, congressman rick crawford. thank you for joining us. >> you bet, thanks for having me. bill: you heard the breaking news there, five more classified documents found by the president's special counsel. your reaction to that? >> my sense is there will probably be more. they're not being forth coming in this.

the white house spokesperson indicated that they were surprised that merrick garland appointed a special counsel. i don't necessarily buy that. i think probably it was done to prevent them or to insulate them from having to comment because the answer can always be, well, that's under investigation so we can't comment on that. so, to some degree there's a level of insulation being provided to the administration by appointing this special counsel, but there are some concerns about the special counsel, the parameters for this particular investigation, so, we'll-- it will be interesting to see how many of these documents emerge in the coming days. bill: and i want to ask you about the timeline with this, because both the white house and the doj we now know found out about the first batch of dew points in early november, days before the midterms and now here we are two months later, more than two months later and only now this week is this starting to go public. via media reports. do you have concerns that this was particularly sat on at some of the highest levels of government?

>> of course, it's always a concern, nobody wants to talk about, well, we don't want to do anything to-- that might affect the outcome of an election. we don't know what's going to effect the outcome of an election. not bringing the information forward potentially impacts the outcome of the election. and we've seen that time and time again. and this one certainly rose to the level of being reported and i think this he deliberately quashed that so it wasn't out in the public sphere before election day. bill: and pull this up. this was a new york post cover earlier this week and we heard the president at admit yes, he did keep some of these next to his corvette in the garage. did anybody vet this guy. and when you heard the president admit to peter doocy he kept the documents in the garage next to the car and they're not in the street.

what's your reaction. >> the reason we have skiff, security compartmentlized documents are supposed to be there and never leave custody. and i don't care if it's under lock and key you're never supposed to have them in a set like that. bill: got it and congressman, i do want to ask you about one more topic here, that being the debt ceiling. this might be one of the first kind of clashes or conflicts we see in this new congress. we just had janet yellin treasury secretary say that the u.s. could default in june if something isn't done. are you in favor of raising the debt ceiling and is there a deal to be made with democrats here? >> this is the travesty, 1.7 trillion omni was-- they knew going in that they were going to have 0 raise the debt ceiling and they didn't include that in the omni and now we're forced to deal with it now under separate context.

the problem is we haven't done anything fundamentally to change the trajectory in spending in washington we need a balanced spending or limit. somehow to curb spending when we're dealing with discretionary spending and come up with things like sequestration or graham-rudman-hollings, they don't work and changing the trajectory of our debt. that's going to have to change. so if we don't do that, if we're not addressing the fundamental changes and the way we spend taxpayers' money i don't know how we proceed in a way that doesn't create problems for us with regard to our debt ceiling. bill: time for one more question and circle back one more type to the classified documents of the you're on the intel committee. what are you hearing is actually in some of the documents found? if you aren't hearing anything, are you requesting that information and asking for a briefing? >> well, mike turner is the chairman of the committee so he's read in, but unfortunately

our committee has not officially stood up so we don't have opportunities to go down and receive the briefings we would otherwise and attributed to the fact that we got off to a slow start in this congress so it takes a long time to get these committees stood up. it's a permanent select committee one of the last committees to populate and stand up. so, it's still going to be another week or two, maybe three, before we actually have access to that information, and so, but we need to move a lot quicker than we are so that we can address these issues that really affect the intelligence community rit large, but specifically this. bill: and the way it's going we'll have to see if even more documents are potentially found in the coming days and weeks. congressman crawford. thank you for joining us this afternoon. >> you bet. gillian: from across the pile let's bring in matt cartwright, and chairs the policy and communications committee. let's start off with breaking news at this hour, president biden, turns out, was in possession of five more pages

of classified documents pulled from his private residence, this brings the grand total up to 20 documents, classified documents that the president of the united states is now in possession of, which he is neither allowed to be by law or under national security policy. can you tell us with confidence that the commander-in-chief is not mishandling any other of the nation's secrets? >> it's clear beyond a shadow of a doubt that we've got to review how departing presidents and vice-presidents are going about organizing the archiving of their documents both classified and unclassified because this can't go on. i mean, and if you think about how this could happen, it's -- you have to put it all in context. whether it's president trump leaving office or vice-president biden leaving office you're talking staffers lining up, rewriting their resume's, sending them out for new jobs, they're not thinking

about, you know, business at hand, it seems to me. gillian: well, sir, just to clarify we don't yet know that that is the case. we don't yet know that staffers are responsible for reallocating these documents in either the trump or the biden case, unless you know something that we're not privy to. >> gillian, you're absolutely right we have to get to the bottom of the facts on everything, but that's my suspicion that these are delegated to to other things, we have to focus on that and make sure that people have accountability and responsibility for handling these documents. now, you know, going forward, sure, i think it's-- merrick garland was absolutely right to appoint special counsels in both cases, for president trump and at the time vice-president biden, look into it. if you look at the appointment, i liked his selection of robert

harr, a trump appointed, and we want to keep politics out of it, it probably pretty hard. gillian: at the end of the day, sir, in both cases here, if you give the president of the benefit of the doubt, and we take your case that you just laid out, high level staffers presumably with top secret security clearances were the ones responsible for moving these documents, the president of the united states has a special responsibility as commander-in-chief not only to the troops, but to intelligence operatives who are fanned out across the globe, special prerogative, special responsibility to protect the nation's secrets over and above the staff. >> well, i think that's true, no matter who the president is, and they have an obligation like every other american to follow the law. the laws, if you look at it, most of these are contained in chapter 37 of the crimes code,

title 18 of the u.s. code. you look through that. those statutes and they're all littered with the phrase, knowing and willingful so the question is always going to come down to, how much did they know, how much did they delegate. you know, how much of this was sloppiness and how much of it was actual willful knowing conduct. that's the hardest part that the special counsel have to look into both the trump and biden cases in handling documents. gillian: sir, in both cases, respectfully intent only matters if we're talking about criminal culpculpability. if presidents trump who are biden are prosecuted. when it comes to national security policy, guidelines are very clear, presidents are not allowed to take any documents with them when they depart office on the final day, classified or unclassified, those documents belong to the federal government.

>> there's no question and that's why at the top of this interview i suggested that what we ought to do is really delegate this job, make specific accountability to certain staffers. maybe they're justice department staffers, maybe national archives people, but obviously, the job isn't getting done and what you worry about is that national security could be compromised. gillian: sir, again, respectfully, these processes and rules and guidelines are very clear, they are in place and have been for a long time. what you have to look for is preventing presidents from violating them. >> i couldn't agree with you more, gillian. we have to make sure that this kind of sloppiness stops, no matter who the president is, no matter who the vice-president is, it's in the national interest that we put focus and emphasis that proper procedures are followed. i think that accountability

among top staffers is probably the key and that's what i want to see us look at in the congress. gillian: sir, thank you for taking time with us this afternoon, we appreciate it. >> my pleasure, be well. gillian: tomorrow on fox news sunday. shannon bream sits down with tony gonzalez and john garamendi and the youngest ever governor, sarah huckabee sanders of arkansas. and media buzz, the fallout from president biden's classified documents scandal, that's tomorrow at 11 a.m. eastern here on fox news. bill: gill one, millions of americans are cleaning up in the southeast after deadly tornados tore through several states. we are live in hard-hit selma, alabama coming up right after the break. stay with us. i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks.

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>> this is a fox news alert out of the news room and additional five classified documents have been found at president biden wilmington home by the special counsel. and he says that he obtained five pages thursday and they were immediately taken into justice department custody for officials on the scene with

him. lucas tomlinson joins us from the white house north lawn. what are you learning about the content classification, anything about these documents? >> well, gillian, i think it's notable. recall the exchange that our own peter doocy had with president biden himself and doocy asked where were the documents, next to your corvette and the president admitted yeah, they were next to the corvette, but the garage was locked and now additional documents were found outside of that garage. whatever justification the president had for keeping classified material in his home in wilmington outside of security means, a skiff, what have you, the fact that they're outside the garage destroys the president's argument, classified material was kept locked next to my 1967 corvette. bill: lucas, remember over the summer when president biden was having -- when president trump was having issues with his own classified documents, and president biden

went on 60 minutes, how could anybody be so irresponsible. those comments may come back to haunt him. and we've had the drip, drip, drip, founding more documents. >> in the context of 2024 election, president biden has indicated he would run, and former president trump has announced he's going to run again and you have two candidates under investigation for handling of classified documents and the images of the fbi raiding president trump's mar-a-lago home compared to what we see now, much of what we're learning is from the white house itself. the statement from president biden's attorney saying that these additional classified documents were found. that's taking the word of the white house. gillian: lucas, let's tally this up now. we've got 20 pages, right, of classified documents. we've got at least three locations where the documents were found. the penn biden center and now

at least two locations inside the president's personal house. the subject matter of this national intelligence ranges from ukraine, we're learning, to iran. it's pretty hard to make the case that this is an aberration at this point. >> right, of course, a lot of people are pointing out, president biden goes to his wilmington home almost every weekend. in fact, this morning when i walked in here, the japanese prime minister was across the street at blair house to hold a press conference. if president biden is spending so much time in wilmington how are classified documents kept there, and the secure room where the president conducts business and throws are top secret facility, but the fact it was a garage and a room adjacent to the garage. you saw it, you displayed that new york post headline with the corvette and the box that looked like frankly most people's garage with stuff thrown in the corner in a box with the lamp and all that. so just really, the president

has insisted he takes classified material and handling of it very seriously, but what we're hearing right now, just it doesn't look like the words match up with the actions. bill: and lucas, this looks like itself might create a brand new news cycle this weekend, more documents discovered. i know the president is out there essentially, you know, taking it easy in delaware this weekend. do you anticipate the white house is now going to have to come out, hold a press conference, make some sort of statement now because this really started turning into a bit of a media frenzy the last couple of days, some of the more contentious white house press conferences we've seen in recent months. do you anticipate or are you hearing that the white house is going to say anything about this new discovery. >> it was notable president biden when he met his japanese counterpart did not answer shouted questions from the president and you saw president biden when he walked out to marine one to leave to go out to wilmington yesterday. he took no questions. i think right now, the president is out there actually laying low and i don't expect to hear anything from the president or from some of his

close officials. gillian: to bill's point a moment ago about the amount of time that the president has spent in wilmington over the course of his administration. we know that right now, the secret service is refusing to supply with an foia request from the new york post, lawsuit going on on to get a visitor log to find out who has visited the house, while the president has been in office when he's there and when he's not there. what can you tell us about the time the president has spent there? i think it's more than 100 days so far, right? >> right, over 60 trips. he goes there most weekends just like he did when he was a senator and critics point out you're no longer senator, you're president of the united states. to be fair many presidents spend time away from the white house. but there's camp david. but not just the time he spends here, but handling of the material.

you ask anyone in the army handling classified material, that soldier and marine tells you you don't handle classified material like this. a double standard and now majority in the house of representative in charge of the committees, they have subpoena power and could be dragging officials up here to talk about these discussions on camera. gillian: stay close by because we're going to bring you back later in the hour as things continue to develop. thanks very much, bill. bill: gillian, a lot of news going on on this saturday. a deadly storm system ripped across the south this week leaving behind a trail of destruction, and mass power outages. fox weather's nicole valdez is on the ground in selma, alabama one of the hardest hit by the tornados. some of the footage out there this this week jaw-dropping. talk to us about some of the damage you're seeing. >> bill, well, it's certainly going to be a difficult week ahead here in selma, alabama. there are dozens of people without a home, hundreds without critical resources like power or running water and

surrounded by some of the destruction that you see behind me. truly, just going to be a painful time. meanwhile, so many are feeling the impacts of that cold front that's now moved in after that storm system passed. we know two people were injured here in selma, but in all, nine dead across the south. now, just yesterday alabama governor ivey saw the destruction firsthand. she asked president biden to expedite a major disaster declaration following these tornados. looking today for information. the national weather service rated this tornado a high end ef-2. largely in part to the damage to this particular daycare. take a look at the daycare, 70 people were inside when the roof collapsed above them and

they made it out. and some babies just weeks old. we're trying to learn more about the severity of the tornados. right now the national weather service not sure whether this particular tornado was the same one that killed six people in the county. bill. bill: unfortunately, a terrible week of weather across the country. west coast and into the south where you are with well over a dozen people dead. nicole, thank you for that live report. you can find continued coverage of this deadly tornado outbreak as well as local forecasts at foxweather.com. and see the qr code to download the fox weather app and stay up-to-date. gillian: new york city's mayor, eric adams, is headed to the border. he says he's going to check out the migrant crisis that's costing new york taxpayers at least $2 billion so far. that's next. i'm your glitchy wi-fi which means your smart home isn't so smart.

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>> let's get straight to a fox news alert. additional five classified documents have been found at president biden's wilmington home. obtained the five pages on thursday and taken into justice department custody by officials on the scene. we'll bring you more as it develops. you're looking live there at a shot of the u.s. side of the shared border with mexico. towns up and down the sector are now feeling direct effects of a new migrant influx. new york city's mayor eric adams is making his way to el paso to get a firsthand look at the crisis. his declaration that the big apple has reached a breaking point and has no more room for

shelter, griff. griff: it will be interesting to see if mayor adams does see in his trip to el paso, three stops, if he sees any migrants, unlike president biden and you can see from the drone footage we were showing you in the last hour, we've had more than 20 migrants. they said they were from colombia to show up here right where we are standing in this very spot. and it's really quite difficult to not see migrants when you come to hot spots like eagle pass here where we are or in el paso, two areas that have been absolutely overrun and let me just show you breaking numbers, cvp sources letting us see here, since january 1st, the first 13th days of the new year, nearly 50,000 migrant encounters of wihich nearly 20,000 of those title 42 expelled. and encounters of single adults. a very interesting aspect that will catch the attention of

border officials. we were talking to one of the ranchers up in kinney county near where i am and she was terrified when three migrants tried to break into her home. watch this. >> i had been outside working in the yard, trimming some brush and stuff and i looked out the back and i could see three illegals walking up to the house. the three of them came up here and they came up to the door, and tried to get it, you know, they were pulling pretty hard on there, and pushing. i had gotten a gun, one of my husband's gun, ar-15. i asked them to stop and please leave and they refused to do that. griff: so you've literately got this gun and you're standing here and they're on the other side of the glass. >> trying to get in. griff: not backing down. >> not backing down even though i have a high, powerful rifle in my arms, they are not backing down. i did talk to my husband, and i called him and i told him, what

do i do? he said if they get the door open, you will have to shoot them. you know, nobody wants to hurt anybody, but if it's me and my daughter, you know, i will shoot them if i have to. it's scary. it's frightening. you know? i feel like we're losing our cou country. griff: and fortunately, pam did not have to shoot the migrants. sheriff's deputies did arrive and take them into custody, but it's an insight, gillian, how fearful residents have become because of this crisis and as mayor adams head to el paso and asked new york state for additional resources the kinney county attorney there where pam's ranch is, brent smith, says he's now with the sheriff put out an sos to all 40 counties in the surrounding area for additional resources to deal with this problem which is anything, but getting under control. gillian, back to you. gillian: griff in eagle pass for us this afternoon. stay safe out there. bill: gillian, a lot to talk

about this with border crisis so for more insight on it, former acting director of ice, fox news contributor and heritage foundation visiting fellow, tom homan, thanks for joining usments thank you for having me. bill: where griff is that's where they're put on buses and sent to new york city and new york's mayor is out in el paso taking a look at the border. new york city started putting up hundreds of migrants in local hotels, one of which is a luxury hotel, $500 a night and taxpayer dime and an employee went public saying, at that hotel, saying that groups of these migrants have just been trashing the hotel, drinking all day, leaving trash all over the place, some of them smoking weed. others having sex in the stairwells, and good food just being tossed out in the trash because they don't want to eat it. tom, these people are supposedly asylum seekers, you would think if you're fearing your home country or you're

hungry, you're not throwing out good food. your reaction to seeing what's happening in those hotels at taxpayer expense? >> a couple of things, first of all, the taxpayers should be insulted they're releasing these people on purpose. $500 a night on hotel rooms, there are thousands of beds in ice facilities already paid for, already paid for sitting empty and they have 24/7 medical coverage, three squares a day and you know, they can take care of the migrants, but the reason they're releasing them, if they're detained as you said they're asylum seekers, immigration court data clearly shows the last decade nine out of 10 don't qualify for asylum, ordered removed, but the homeland security life cycle if you're retention you're removed 99% of the time. if not detained by the government like a family unit you leave 6% of the time. that's why they're spending 10 times more money on detention in the hotels rather than government detention because they know these people would lose their case and no they won't leave if they're not

detained. bill: and the administration recently announced a new initiative they're going to be expanding parole to migrants from cuba, nicaragua and haiti. going to allow 30,000 of these people from these demographics into the county every single month and for viewers that don't understand, itif you will, allow them to apply for work permits benefits. under u.s. law parole is under nor urgent circumstances humanitarian, and significant benefit. they want to do 30,000 a year. and when were you in, it was three a year. >> because i followed the law. each case separately studied the case thoroughly and does it benefit the government, signature public benefit to bring them in. it's a high bar. what the secretary, what this administration is doing is

violating the law. they'll lose it in court when the president said we're going to bring 30,000 in. and how do you make that statement when it has to be case by case. bill: and what is your example of parole. what's an example. >> i brought a man who was going to come in and testify against the criminal cartel and help the government convict the drug dealers and smugglers and after he's done he would go home. bill: that's significant public benefit. >> yes. bill: a couple of seconds left. your thoughts on the numbers at the border, the december border numbers should be released any day now are going to be monstrous, possibly the highest month ever recorded in u.s. history. these numbers, when you look at the chart just keep going up, up, up, up, up. no matter what changes the administration is making. your reaction, is there anything that is potentially going to slow this crisis down? >> there has to be consequences. has to be a consequence for them breaking the law.

we just discussed 90% lose their case. if they don't cooperate. they'll be removed. ice isn't looking for them. when a republican president takes back the white house, someone like trump who believes in border security and i'll come out of retirement for the third time we'll seek these people out, arrest and deport them. take that to the bank. bill: we'll keep covering that border beat. gillian. gillian: china is ratcheting up threats against taiwan holding military drills off the island nation. is a chance of invasion now closer than ever before? we'll ask general keith kellogg coming up next. my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger.

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>> welcome back. a fox news alert. additional five classified documents have been found at

president biden's wilmington home. obtained the new pages on thursday and they were immediately taken into justice department custody by officials on scene there. we'll have a whole lot more on the story as it develops, gillian. gillian: thanks, bill. tensions are on the rise concerns over china's possible invasion of taiwan mount in washington. china held major drills off the coast of the island this weekend. let's bring in retired general and fox news contributor keith kellogg to talk about the prospects for an invasion now. general, take a look at this. just some of the menacing moves that china has made since december. they dispatched a record 71 planes towards taiwanese air space and some aircraft crossed the taiwan strait and china declares that china sovereignty and taiwan is an undisputable fact.

are we inching closer to a future here where the likelihood of some kind of air or ground invasion becomes real. >> yeah, gillian, first of all, thank you for having me. i think we are. i think they see a window of opportunities within the next two years against taiwan. president xi made it clear he believes of unification of taiwan, even though taiwan is a country of 23 million, but it's outnumbered 10 to one, and we don't have a defense treaty with them. started one in 1950 and abrogated with jimmy carter and to counter that, what he's doing is sense tadvertise-- sensetizing them or desensitizing. with the united states of america, what does it mean? not just for the president, but the congress as well and just giving them equipment isn't

going to be the whole story. gillian: we know that that doesn't cut the mustard with our experiences the last year in ukraine. >> this is clear, this is what is going to happen and this is what we're going to do and i think we have pretty good alliances set up there, when the prime minister was here yesterday with the president with japan, but we have to make it clear, if they invade, are we going to fight or not. this is a national decision, it's not a presidential decision. this is a decision that the american people have to make. gillian: to that point, this time a year ago, the world, including the united states sat idly by wondering if putin would dare to invade ukraine, as he built up hundreds of thousands of troops along the border for six months. it's hard not to draw a comparison with what we're seeing the chinese do, vis-a-vis taiwan. >> you're exactly right and that's what i mean desensitizing and all of these forces, ukraine as an example, when the russians were building up resources, and people were

saying he's not going to cross the border, he's not going to cross the border. there were people saying two days this attack positions two days before they were in ukraine, yes, he was. and you have to look how the forces are set up. there are a couple of tells. the tells that you see if they increase their amphibious capability and capacity off the coast of taiwan, that's the key. that means he's building up to use force. the taiwan straits of 100 miles wide, it's not easy to do, sort of like going back to normandy in 1944. can the chinese do it? of course they can, it's a matter of will. if president xi has the will to do it, doesn't matter how many forces. gillian: let me turn it back around at you this way. do you have any reason, have you seen any indication from the chinese regime that xi is not willing to do something? >> none, none. he's banking on the fact, within the next two years, that he's got a president that will not react strongly. he'll talk a big game, but

nothing's going to happen and once they get that nuclear arsenal going. the same thing, the same reason we're not pushing back against the russians. they've got a nuclear arsenal, so do the chinese. we have to take -- risk is a province of war and you may have to make that decision, we as a nation, are we going to allow this to happen and the free world going to let that happen and make that decision now. the american people have to be with us on this if they want to go forward. gillian: general, we've got to leave it there, we could talk all afternoon. bill: we continue to cover breaking news, five new documents in president biden's possession with classified markings. our political panel is going to weigh in right after the break. stay with us. (woman) it's a perfect fit for my small business. (vo) verizon has business internet solutions nationwide. (man) for our not-so-small business too. (vo) get internet that keeps your business ready for anything.

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>> welcome back to fox news alert. an additional five classified documents have been found at president biden's wilmington home and in a statement, they were obtained on thursday and immediately taken into justice department custody by officials on scene, for more on this we'll go ahead and bring in today's political panel, that being talk show host tony katz and fox news contributor and

radio show host richard fowler. tony, start with you. five more documents found. apparently they were found on thursday. the white house just had their last press conference on this yesterday where there was no mention of any other documents. do you think the white house is kind of taken by surprise that the new ones are found, too, or maybe there's a lot more documents out there and they're just hoping that they don't come to light? >> oh, we have no reason not to think there aren't more documents out there. i may have lost my voice a little bit, but i haven't lost my mind. this is some really bad work by the administration. never mind having the documents, but being unable to share the story in one lump sum. finding things on thursday after this started on november 2nd is a really ugly, ugly look of incompetence from this administration and that story is going to start growing. bill: yeah, richard, i want to turn to you here. does this have a chance of stunting some of the momentum the biden administration was starting to see. the president just went to the

border the first time ever trying to show he's taking it seriously. and watching with the house the in-fighting going on and now we have a brand new news cycle here that keeps renewing itself, if you will, every couple of days. do you have concerns that this is essentially going to start overshadowing the president's agenda and as more documents are found this is what everybody is going to be talking about. >> there's no question that the president would rather us talk about the trip to the border and the melee in the republican caucus, but the truth is we're having a conversation about documents found in his house and that's problematic for the president and the white house. the good news for the white house in this moment. in this moment, the white house can rely on the fact that they appointed a former federal judge to be their attorney general in merrick garland and the first thing merrick garland did was appoint a special counsel and the special counsel investigating this, shows what biden said all along, i will follow the rules, i'll

cooperate with the justice department and i will appointment an attorney general that's above politics and above political reproach and what this attorney general is doing, he has a-- somebody, he put somebody there who is looking for the documents and finding them and shows that it's working and worth pointing out in the case of president trump there was a subpoena that got the documents and not cooperation. >> and none of that matters, richard. if that's the best that the white house can put out there. it's a worse weak week for biden than i thought. bill: we'll see where this goes. one more question for you. we'll have more with the panel coming up later as the breaking news continues to come into our news room more classified documents found in president biden delaware home. more details. stay with us. i count on personalized financial advice from my ameriprise advisor. she knows my goals and can help me reach them with confidence. the markets may fluctuate but you're still on track.

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bill: we begin this hour with fox news alert, additional 5 classified documents have now been uncovered at president biden's home in delaware. the president's attorney say the documents were found on thursday and immediately taken into the custody by the justice department. welcome to another hour of fox news live i'm bill melugin. >> great to have you in the dc bureau, we are used to seeing you in the southern border. bill: have breaking news to it. gillian: we do. i'm gillian turner.