this is a way for all of us to give back, say thank you for our freedoms but thank you to the heroes on the set there, i am with you in spirit. >> brian: absolutely dan we'll see you soon. legacyexpeditions.net and of course guys honored to be in your presence, thrilled you pulled this off. can't wait to see what you do next. and lunch is on us. or on chris. there you go. right now let's go to dana perino who wen ha >> bill: anarchy in the city of atlanta. putting police on high alert. protestors call for a night of rage. we'll give details when they happen. i'm bill hemmer live in new york city. >> dana: i'm dana perino. i did go to high school. you'll find out more, too, with one of those navy seals. this is "america's newsroom" great to be with you today. so this all started on wednesday when state troopers moved to break up a so-called autonomous

zone in the woods. police say they were clearing out the encampment when one of the protestors opened fire hitting one of the troopers. officers returned fire shooting and killing that protestor. >> the group was there protesting the construction of a new police training facility. officials say opponents of that project have repeatedly turned to violence. >> over the last several months, law enforcement and portions of our community have experienced growing criminal behavior and terroristic acts committed by individuals and groups for the building of the new atlanta public training safety center. they have attempted to disguise their activities as being protests against the building of this facility. the law enforcement can't stand by while serious criminal acts are being committed that jeopardize the safety of the citizens we're sworn to protect. >> dana: we go to jonathan serrie in atlanta. >> bill: social media posts calling for violence have been

banned. protestors continue to question official accounts of what led to the death of one of the demonstrators. investigators say 26-year-old man died in gunfire exchange with police officers who were removing protestors camping on an 85 acre site slated for construction of a public safety training center for the city of atlanta. >> an individual, without warning, shot a georgia state patrol trooper. other law enforcement personnel returned fire and evacuated the trooper to a safe area. >> suffering a wound the trooper went emergency surgery and in stable condition. seven protestors, all from out of state, have been charged with domestic terrorism and criminal trespass. three additional demonstrators who cooperated peacefully were allowed to leave the site without arrest. governor brian kemp issued a statement saying as we have always done the state respects

peaceful protests. as i have also always said, acts of violence intimidation, destruction and terrorism will not be tolerated in georgia. some of the groups and individuals trying to block the public safety training center say they're concerned about the project's impact on the environment while others oppose the increased presence of law enforcement they say it would bring to the area. >> i do think the world is at a turning point where people recognize that cops are not there to help them. >> but supporters say the center will improve training for law enforcement and other first responders which they say ultimately makes the community safer. dana and bill, back to you. >> dana: jonathan serrie in atlanta. >> bill: another shooting. evansville, indiana. a gunman opened fire at a wal-mart. police quick to respond. they chased the suspect throughout the store exchanging gunfire and then eventually

killing him. >> we have been trained that if there is an active threat we go in, we don't pause or try to figure out what's going on. we go where the shots are being fired. >> no word on the victim's condition and shooter's identify. we'll bring you details as we get them today. >> mr. baldwin had a duty at the base level to never hold a gun and point it at a person while pulling the trigger. he also had a duty as an actor and producer on that set, to have the bullets checked or to check them himself to make sure they weren't live. and he had a duty to make sure that the set was a safe set and we know from multiple accounts it was not a safe set. >> dana: the district attorney explaining her decision to charge alec baldwin. it was a movie set shooting that

killed halyna hutchins. both are vowing to fight the charges. >> the special prosecutors wrote in the decision to charge baldwin it showed a pattern of criminal disregard for safety on the "rust" film and there is no room in new mexico for film sets that do not take new mexico's commitment to gun safety and public safety seriously. here is the new mexico d.a. and special prosecutor. >> we believe baldwin as a producer knows everything that goes on in the set. so there was a lot of problems. there was a lot of -- a couple accidental discharges. there was a lot of safety concerns that were brought to the attention of management and he did nothing about it. >> that special prosecutor also telling fox news that baldwin did pull the trigger on the gun he fired. a claim he strongly denies. the new mexico d.a. says baldwin faces up to 6 1/2 years in prison if he is convicted by a

jury. baldwin's attorney responded writing in part, quote, this decision distorts halyna hutchins' death and represents a terrible miscarriage of justice. mr. baldwin had no reason to believe there was a live bullet in the gun or anywhere on the movie set and are he lied on the professionals whom he worked that assured him the gun did not have live rounds. the armorer faces the same prison time. her attorney telling fox news hannah is and has been very emotional and sad about this tragic accident but she did not commit involuntary manslaughter. hutch-in's family -- baldwin agreed to turn over his cell phones but records were missing. not clear if that was intentional. >> dana: we'll have much more on this case at the top of the hour next hour with criminal defense

attorney. look forward to that. >> excuse me, mr. secretary, any comments to republicans calling for your impeachment? >> good morning. >> they have announced an oversight hearing for the border. will you cooperate, sir? >> sir, any comments for republicans calling for your impeachment? we'll let you go. >> bill: not a lot of answers there. situation at the border continues to spiral out of control and rampant human smuggling. fentanyl seizures and growing number of gotaways. you wouldn't know it when asking dhh secretary mayokas who claims border is secure. border agents are fed up and want him out. griff jenkins from eagle pass, texas today. >> good morning. they are fed up. let me just show you what is happening here. over my shoulder right now high above on the bridge is a title 42 underway. it happens almost every hour all

day. now as you watch, these migrants going back into mexico under title 42 expulsions lets he go to the drone a quarter mile away. you can see a group of 25 of mostly columbians and venezuelans, i was talking to them. what you have here, bill, is utterly a revolving door. many come, half go back. all day long non-stop. that's why it has been a fire hose of activity. let me show you video we shot just a few hours ago before dawn. this large group is about 70, 71 migrants from cuba, columbia, dominican republic. i talked to them and asked them if they feared the cartel and asking them how much they paid. some paying, $1 thousand, $2 thousand to cross the river. it is a snapshot of why these agents are so exhausted after two years of this every single day. and the human smuggling you mentioned absolutely on the

rise. let's take a look at this video overnight that our fox cameras captured embedded with the texas dps and the span of six hours we saw the dps stop three different smuggling operations. one driver was from houston, another from mexico. apprehended and charged with human smuggling. more than a dozen migrants were recovered. that's why agents are saying now at this point if indeed secretary mayokas were impeached well, the border patrol council union vice president says maybe that would help things. here is what he had to say. take a listen. >> if at the very least puts a bigger spotlight on what's happening and get some of the resources here and maybe gets border patrol agents out of the asylum business and putting us back in the field we're all for it. what will be the result of it in the end? >> the result they hope for, bill, is a change in policies to stop the mass release, catch and release policies and also to get

some cooperation from our partners in mexico to try and help things on the southern side of the border to slow the migrants transiting. >> bill: griff jenkins, thank you. >> dana: new era in the fight over abortion. the march for life rally kicking off in the nation's capital. the first since the supreme court overturnd roe v. wade. we're live in d.c. >> president biden: i think you'll find there is nothing there. i have no regrets. i'm following what the lawyers have told me they want me to do. it's exactly what we're doing. there is no there there, thank you. >> bill: what is there? shrugging off these classified document scandal. more on that reaction from the president when he is traveling in california whether it will prevent a re-election bid. >> dana: newly obtained emails are revealing on the whipping by

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>> dana: get this. the supreme court still doesn't know who leaked a draft opinion overturning abortion rights. the court released a report yesterday eight months into the probe saying investigators held 126 interviews with 97 employees. they also reviewed court issued laptops and cell phones. "politico" published a draft opinion last may. protests across the country and concerns about security for justices. one man was arrested outside justice kavanaugh's home and charged with attempted murder. >> bill: the mystery continues. f.b.i. offering a $25,000 reward for any information about a series of attacks on

reproductive health centers across the country involving faith-based organizations and planned parenthood clinics. the bureau says ten incidents remain unsolved. arson and vandalism make up the majority of the crimes. >> dana: attacks against pregnancy support centers as america's largest pro-life rally returns to the nation's capital today. the first march for life since the supreme court overturned roe v. wade last year. lucas tomlinson is live in washington and has more. >> good morning, dana. that's right. exactly 50 years ago this month roe v. wade made abortion legal nationwide. today marks the first time the march for life will be taking place since the decision was overturned last spring. organizers expect over 150,000 people today. a victory lap or victory march. let's look at the schedule of events. vice president mike pence had a private breakfast this morning at 8:00 a.m. a pro-life

pre-concert rally at 11:00. the actual rally begins at noon and the margins at 1:00 p.m. eastern here on the mall and ends at the supreme court. here are some of the speakers headlining the event. nfl hall of fame coach tony dungy, house majority leader steve scalise, congressman chris smith from new jersey and mississippi attorney general. who won the dobbs case. we'll speak to her and bring it to you. while a majority of americans want abortion to be legal. 69% favor limiting abortion to the first trimester and 61% banning abortion after 15 weeks. lindsey graham supported that in his bill. roe was struck down a month after the draft opinion was leaked. protestors demonstrated outside the homes of the supreme court justices. a young man was arrested and charged with attempted assassination of justice bret kavanaugh. in 2020 donald trump became the

first u.s. city president to speak at a march more life rally and for the underwhaming performance by republicans in the mid-terms. the issue shifted a long way from clinton say safe, legal and rare. 13 states across the country have a complete ban. 16 others have no time restrictions. today will be about 50 degrees and sunny, good day for the march and many people very happy today in washington. >> dana: the weather usually is not so good. thank you for bringing us that report. thanks, lucas. >> to see people treated like they did. horses running over and people being strapped is outrageous. i promise those people will pay. >> our entire nation saw horrifying images that do not reflect who we are. we know that those images painfully conjured up the worst elements of our nation's ongoing

battle against systemic racism. >> bill: that was a year and a half ago. turns out it wasn't true. no apology since. president biden homeland security secretary falsely accused border agents of whipping migrants in the summer of 2021. emails are coming to life that show the border patrol chief was furious over how the white house handled the bogus controversy. cross-country host lawrence jones is here. good morning. i have one of these things going around at the time is that the government is looking for a clarification as to whether or not we're going to investigate. the sooner we can tell them that investigation has been launched the better it looks for them. that's what was going on in the emails. >> behind the scenes they were also saying there was no evidence of wrongdoing at the time. look, you watched blue bloods, frank reagan. when it comes to -- i do a lot of crime reporting. i have a lot of sources in law

enforcement. these positions are political appointments. if you want to be a successful commissioner and chief you have to have the frank reagan approach. you have the respect of the rank and file while still being able to maneuver in these political positions. ortiz behind the scenes, he will go to bat for his agents on the ground but publicly he won't do anything to support them. so he was in a tough spot. i know ortiz. he has talked about the problems he has had with this administration. at the end of the day, mayokas and biden are his bosses. he would do what they said. he was fighting for his agents behind the scenes. what his rank and file wanted to see this public gesture saying, if you go after my people you go after me and i'll walk off this job before i let you prosecute four of my agents on the ground. he didn't do that publicly. >> dana: let's read some of the emails he sent just released. call for number one.

he said there are great efforts occurring and we aren't highlighting any of them. every day we're providing lifesaving efforts to migrants under the bridge. agents are being assaulted and we aren't saying a word. haitians are escaping and trying to overrun drivers and we stay quiet. agents and staff are working 14 hour days in difficult conditions, nothing said. we have to change the narrative or these stories will be the only stories. he is right. that has been the case. >> expect more documents and comments to come out of ortiz office. he realizes he has the political will with everybody talking about the border and biden visiting the border and i think he is tired of being beat up about this issue. i think there will be more leaks about what is going on at the border. people should ask themselves where does fox news get information? someone with inside of the administration that is saying the border is a crisis. i think that's what we're seeing

right here. >> bill: still no apology. >> you won't get one. >> bill: in philadelphia you are visiting the kensington neighborhood. a new drug going around designed for animals and human beings are taking it. >> it's known as a tranquilizer for animals. we started covering the fentanyl crisis four years ago. now they've introduced this new drug tranc. narcan won't work on this drug. they try different combinations to have preventive measure. if you take tranc, it will kill you. if an emt or doctor comes on the scene they can't save your life. >> dana: it kills you slowly. the sores that people get on their arms and legs. basically you look like you have leprosy. it eats you from the inside out. >> offenders will go to jail and be in jail for three months and be released and pick it back up.

that's when it really kills them. they went cold turkey and then they get reintroduced. a lot of folks don't know they're taking tranc. it's laced with it. >> bill: strong stuff. see you at 10:00 saturday night. thank you for being here. good luck to your cowboys. >> good luck to your bengals. >> i am scared because i have a lot of little grand babies and my daughters are tiny and they should do a better job keeping these people off the street. >> dana: community on edge today after the escape of five inmates caught on camera strolling out of prison. how they did it and how police are hoping to catch them. a new connection emerging between the idaho murder suspect and two of his victims where he may have been watching them in the run-up to the killings.

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cooperating while arguing there is no there there. white house correspondent peter doocy from the north lawn. i think it's really the first public comments we've heard, peter. good morning. >> and bill, president biden is now blaming this entire dust-up over documents on vice president biden's aides. >> president biden: they found a handful of documents were filed in the wrong place. we immediately turned them over to the archives and justice department. >> that is when the justice department quietly investigated for weeks they turned their findings over to the attorney general garland who reviewed them and decided a special counsel was still required. for some reason, even after the special counsel came on board, biden's personal lawyers were still searching. that's a major point of contention for critics. >> the idea that the justice department would allow lawyers without clearances to go search for the documents and that means

handle the documents. i don't understand how they aloud this to happen. the search there should have been handled by people who were in the law enforcement agencies. >> if a review is underway to determine possible spread of national security secrets, the special counsel won't say telling fox consistent with longstanding department practice we'll decline to comment on the ongoing investigation. top democrats already back one of those national security assessments. >> is there any risk that they were exposed to people that didn't or shouldn't have had access? the intelligence community does those damage assessments and mitigation assessments. they should do so here. >> we will hear from the white house press secretary this afternoon. we expect questions to be kicked over to lawyers who aren't saying much today. >> bill: not going to stop you, i don't think.

thank you, peter, north lawn. >> dana: that's the strategy from the white house. you have to call the -- it goes round and round like that. >> bill: we have questions, kimberly has questions. the justice department's double standard on classified docs. the special's lawyers got to conduct the search while predecessors weren't allowed to be present. andy mccarthy made the point. why were the f.b.i. agents not allowed to go into these areas and whether it was wilmington or washington, d.c. the other question outstanding is be hand the scenes what was going on for two months? did the white house, president's attorney, department of justice, what were they doing. >> dana: and the white house press secretary and put her in this situation, not right. we'll get questions answered at some point. president biden could be weeks away from launching a 2024

re-election bid. white house aides say the classified document scandal will have no impact on his decision and the announcement won't come until after the state of the union address february 7th. let's bring in axios political correspondent. josh, it makes sense to not announce until after the state of the union? >> it does. when you are president you want to focus on governing and the economy. you don't want to be in politics mode right away. especially since the republican field of possible 2024 presidential candidates is taking its time to develop. we have president trump in the mix. no one really else is getting in right now. so there is no rush for biden to get into politics mode. especially with the whole scandal involving these classified documents. i think it would be smart politically for the white house to take their time and wait for any kind of political re-election campaign.

>> dana: this is president biden on what he says is in the documents. >> president biden: we're fully cooperating and looking forward to getting this resolved quickly. i think you'll find there is nothing there. i have no regrets. i'm following what the lawyers have told me they want me to do. exactly what we're doing. there is no there there. >> dana: from your experience or your research what you've heard, how are the american people reacting to the casualness from the biden white house about this when they went appear complete particular about donald trump. >> there is definitely a double standard. i look at the polls and where biden's numbers are now compared to where they were before the scandal. the early polling is showing that this president is taking something of a political hit. the quinnipiac poll put out a poll this week. approval rating is 38%. five points down from where it was last month before the controversy began.

if you look at the average of polls by real clear politics, biden's job approval rating is about two points lower than where trump's was before the 2020 presidential election. so the notion that biden is in strong political shape. that has hurt his political standing. but i think the bet from the white house at the same time is that they think republicans are going to overreach and they think that they can paint the republicans in an extreme corner and they are hoping that this scandal will blow away with the passage of time. >> dana: so we have the state of the union coming up. his re-election announcement coming at some point after the state of the union. in the meantime you have republicans thinking about it and exploring the opportunity. nikki haley with bret baier last night. >> when you look at a run for president you first look at does the current situation push for new leadership? the second question is am i that person that could be that new leader? yes, we need to go in a new

direction. can i be that leader? yeah? >> do i think i could be that leader? yes. we'll work through things and figure it out. i never lost a race. i won't lose now but stay tuned. >> dana: we're staying tuned. what are you watching as she comes on the scene? >> it sounds like she is running from the interview she gave with bret baier. we'll wait and see. she is someone who as she said never lost a race. she won her first campaign in south carolina coming from behind as an underdog. she would start out as an underdog if she gets into the presidential campaign. she is someone who -- she is an optimist and someone focusing on the governing record in south carolina for two terms as governor. the mood of the republican party lately has been confrontational. they like trump because he is a

fighter. desantis has the same image and might get into the presidential campaign. the big question for nikki haley is her optimistic sunny conservatism the right fit for a time when the republican party is looking for someone who is more critical and more aggressive in their posture? >> dana: she might say she is pretty tough. we might hear her say that as we move. this campaign season will get underway pretty soon. great to see you, josh, have a wonderful weekend. >> bill: so she is in. >> dana: you will put her down as a strong -- >> bill: one thing under there. what you could do, look anyone in government, you are a marine, soldier, if you have are caught with classified materials you are prosecuted, right? he said there is no there there. maybe there is no there there. sometimes the intelligence is old and outdated and no longer effective. if there is no there there, you could prove that easily by giving the story to a friendly

reporter to write up a good story and tell us what's in the paperwork. >> dana: yeah. >> bill: if there is no there there. >> dana: gosh, i don't understand the white house strategy. i guess it's they hope people forget about it and that the justice department is going to clear them eventually or they maybe muddle through the campaign hoping nobody is paying attention to it. we'll see. there are probably more shoes to drop this weekend. >> bill: california deputy losing his life in the line of duty. how tunnel to towers is working to help his family and that family needs a lot. plus should you trust facial recognition technology? one mother said it was used to prevent her from attending a rockettes show with her daughter. she says why she was the target. >> i think in this case, the bio metrics and facial recognition technologies were being used as a punitive measure.

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>> dana: five inmates are on the run after escaping from a missouri detention center. surveillance cameras caught them breaking out and now an intense manhunt is underway. authorities say three of those who busted loose are known sex offenders. senior correspondent casey stiegel is live in dallas with the latest. >> the u.s. marshal service joined the investigation encouraging people to call 911 with information and not to approach the suspects. they are dangerous. this all happened tuesday night in farmington, missouri. 75 miles southwest of st. louis. they gained access to the roof through the plumbing and ventilation system and able to

ditch their orange jumpsuits before making their way back down to the ground and off the st. francis detention center property. the group was next seen on surveillance tape stealing a car from a parking lot of a neighboring business and fleeing. the escape left an entire community on edge and fearful. >> locking my doors. >> i am scared. i have a lot of little grand babies and my daughters are tiny and they should do a better job keeping these people off the street. >> all five inmates were originally being held on felony charges. three were known sex offenders, one was charged with the rape of a 12-year-old girl. the men are said to be riding in a dark gray toyota with a rear temporary missouri plate and no license plate up front. rewards up to $5 thousand currently being offered for their return.

dana. >> dana: hope for a good outcome here. >> bill: so in california, a sheriff's department now mourning the loss of one of their own. riverside county deputy calhoun was shot and killed while answering a call a week ago today. the 30-year-old deputy leaves behind a pregnant wife and two young sons and now tunnel to towers is stepping in to help the family of this fallen hero. frank siller founder and chairman. >> the stories are gut wrenching. i call these widows soon after it happens. they're worried how to get through the next day and i have always -- it's a very emotional conversation but this one with vanessa was just -- brought me to my knees. i asked her at one point do you believe in life after death? and she said yes, i know darnell

is in paradise with jesus today. and i was just so -- taken by that, she has that perspective. clear perspective and faith. i said your faith will help carry you through your darkest point of your life. >> dana: what is she facing right now? >> well, she is facing the fact she doesn't have -- she has two young kids, pregnant. due in april and she doesn't have a home. they were saving for a home. childhood sweethearts. went to high school and college together and were having this beautiful family together. your viewers are fantastic. i would love to get them -- her with her young family in a house. she is due in april. let's buy a house for her and have her in that house by the time she gives birth to their third child. you can imagine what they are going through. she doesn't know where she will live. she is with her father right now. i spoke to the father and her.

>> bill: that was last night, right? how do they come to get you involved in this? >> we hear of it and know exactly when it happens. we're connected with every police and fire department throughout the united states. i was with 40 widows last night across the street from fox studios taking them out for dinner because we just don't deliver them a home. we want to be part of their lives an let them know we love them and be there for them e contact the police department. th this for years since detectives got assassinated in 2014. tomorrow is one year anniversary for two police officers that were assassinated in new york just last year. 66 last year were shot and killed. over 200 police officers died in

the line of duty. anyone that's left with a young family we'll make sure we take care of them. >> dana: he talked about atlanta and it happened this week in atlanta to the trooper there as he was trying to clear out some antifa autonomous zone nuts living in the woods. it's outrageous. >> it's not safe for them. >> bill: the website is t2t.org and if you want to help, here is your guy. >> bill: all your money will go to help this family. i can't think of a better way to donate and take the burden off this great family that have the ultimate sacrifice. >> dana: thank you for what you do. incredible. >> thank you. >> crimea is part of ukraine. we've long held that position and said that and we certainly support the ukrainians taking back their territory by any means they can. >> dana: pentagon announcing more military aid for ukraine as

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>> dana: in his first act as pennsylvania governor democrat shapiro signs an executive order to eliminate the four-year college requirement for 92% of state jobs. that's 65,000 positions. he wrote this. i want to make it clear to all people in pennsylvania whether they went to college or gained experience through their work, job training, or apprentice program. we value your skills and talents and want you to apply for a job with the commonwealth. hogan made his first in the state to eliminate the degree

requirement last march. i think utah talked about doing this yesterday. this will probably happen across the states. it is a good thing. it makes a lot of sense. people do gain experience through work or apprenticeships. you don't have to have a degree requirement for every single job. >> bill: starts in maryland and pennsylvania and goes to the other 48. meanwhile overseas the pentagon announces another $2.5 billion in military aid to ukraine. 90 striker combat vehicles capable of moving infantry across the battlefield. no tanks in that commitment. retired lieutenant general keith kellogg, former national security advisor with vice president mike pence is live in kiev and been in ukraine for the last week. great to get your perspective on the ground. poland and finland say we'll do whatever it takes. germany says we're only going to give them our tanks if the u.s. provides the abrams tanks in

turn. what is your assessment of that request? >> thanks for having me today. appreciate it. i'm here because of the association, an ngo allowed me to come over and look at ukraine. when we developed the systems to defeat the soviet army years ago the bradley fighting vehicle system was part of that. we'll give them to ukraine. with paladin -- motorized paladin 155 system was part of that. the abrams tank was part of that. designed to fight in combined arms warfare together. fool irk not to give them the abrams tank. it is capable of beating any russian tank out there today in the field. so give them the entire capability to defeat the russian

army here in ukraine plus give them the combined arms training and what i would do is add on top of that give them the a-ten wart hog air to ground anti-arm or system. train them in combined arms warfare. have president biden call putin our job is to help ukraine defeat the russian army in ukraine, not march on moscow. when that's done our job is complete. he hasn't done that. years ago when we developed the systems we called it the assault breaker program to have all the systems fight in combination. you don't fight infantry without armor. the bradley and abrams are hand in glove. they should go together. the senior leadership in the military know that. austin and milley know that and advise the president and give it to them and let them lead the fight. >> bill: it seems like a matter of time. it has been an argument and debate and eventually granted.

the pentagon is operating that the abrams tanks operate on jet fuel that make it more difficult. the latest contribution is not insignificant. eight air defense systems. 60 bradley infantry fighting vehicles. 90 striker apc. mine resistant vehicles aened on and on it goes. it is a lot. you have been there for a week and spend another week there. what is your evaluation of where the war is today? what have you learned? >> i think what i've learned is this. i've been able to talk to a lot of people and seen places. sur real. you go where the war hasn't affected anybody and this morning we're in the spear point of the russian invasion and talking to people there and military as well. if i had to look at it this way a simple answer. the ukrainian military is on a trajectory and winning the fight

in the field. the russian army is flat. they have lost their best systems and units. their best units are mauled. i think the ukrainians have an ability now to win this fight in spring. i do believe there will be a culmination period. that period is the springtime. both will try to win the fight. this fight won't go on for 5 or 10 years. it should be decided as long as we support ukraine to the best of our ability i think they can bring the fight to a culmination. to me it's defined as ejecting the russian army from the field in ukraine and regaining all their territory. we're in a proxy war. we're part of this fight whether we like it or not. whether we talk about it or not. nato, the united states is part of this war. we should admit it. not with u.s. forces on the ground but proxy and equipment and go for the endgame. >> bill: general kellogg live in ukraine. thanks for your observation today. >> thanks, bill.