♪ the love boat soon will be making another run ♪ will: really? if. [laughter] the yellow rose. pete: have a great saturday, everybody. rachel: bye, everybody. neil: fox on top of border numbers that are over the top, way over the top. now, you're forgiven if you didn't hear about them, they were actually released late last night. now we know why. they show a staggering 251,000 migrant encounters just last month. that's a record. and for the democratic congressman, or henry cuellar, that's a problem, a big problem. he's furious and he is here and only here. and the president may have no regrets about how he has handled these classified documents, but house judiciary committee

congressman burgess owen sure does. coming up, what he says still doesn't add up. today we take a close look at that document timeline. if the white house knew about all of this back in early november, why did it take 68 days for the res of the world to find out -- the rest of the world to find out? this saturday morning we are about to dig in. welcome, everybody. i'm neil cavuto, and happy weekend to you. so much to follow this particular weekend. the focus on, well, what's going on in delaware. but not at the president's home there, his rehoe both vacation home, that's where he is, the one without documents, we think. to lucas tomlinson at prime minister's weekday home -- president's weekday home, the white house, where we know things are getting heated. >> reporter: good morning, neil. st been over 10 days since the new republican chairman of the house intelligence committee wrote to president biden's head of, director of national intelligence asking for damage control assessment to be done about these classified document,

still no response. yesterday james comer was on your show saying he's also been ignoredded. >> why hasn't the fbi n been in there? just because joe biden's personal attorneys say everything's hunky dory, that doesn't mean a darn thing to me. joe biden admitted he didn't even know they had those classified document, so he probably doesn't need to comment on this. >> reporter: president biden is spending the weekend at his other home in delaware, this one his beach house. some eye brows were raised at the white house saying why is the president going to his summer home in the middle of the winter? they were wondering if classified documents were found there also. the white house denied that, but perhaps a search is ongoing. karine jean-pierre said the president takes the handling of classified documents very, very seriously and late this week president biden says he has no regrets over this issue, neil, and said, quote: i think you're going to find there's nothing there. neil? neil: all right. thank you for that the, lucas. let's go to alexandria hoff

right now. a lot of house republics -- republicans are launching investigations, but they peel like they're being stymied by the white house or at least agencies siding with the white house. what's the latest? >> reporter: well, neil, the justice department gave its first response to house republicans yesterday stating that we'll negotiate in good feint but, ultimately, will be limited in what they're able to reveal, citing longstanding policy preventing hem from from confirming or denying the existence of pending investigations. this followed requests by chair jim jordan for information relating to the department's work. so the committee fired back with twitter with post writing: why is koj scared to -- doj scared to cooperate with our investigations? the doj promised a separate response related to the handling of classified documents found at the president's personal office, or his former office and personal home. congressman jordan is not optimistic on what he's going to hear back from them. >> the same justice department that handled these things in

such a different way is the justice department that spied on president trump's campaign, the justice department that lied to the fisa court, the justice department that paid a confidential human source even after they knew that source had lied to them. >> reporter: republicans say they're seeking the same set of standards imposed on president biden as were put into place for poem president trump whose possession of controversial documents triggered a full-on fbi raid. >> i think this is where you're going to see a very aggressive republican house coming after hem to hold them accountable, because everyday americans, we're sick and tired of this double set of standards. >> reporter: congresswoman cam act said the focus of upcoming house investigations will be on national security as a whole. of course, those documents included there. she also pointed to the bonderrer crisis and the biden administration's chaotic withdrawal from afghanistan. neil? neil: alexandria, thank you. burgess owens, republican, kind enough to join us. obviously, there is concern on

your chairman jim jordan had expressed concern about slow walk back of responses from the white house, from the justice department, pretty much from anyone on requests for investigations and documents. what do you want to see right now,man? -- congressman? >> well, neil, first of all, thanks for the opportunity to chat about this. upside of what's happening now is the american people spoke last fall, and we now have in place a house that will give true oversight. i think the american people just immediate to see the truth, you know? -- need to see the truth. there's something that's happening where we have an economy, we have a culture in which lying is as easy as taking the next breath, and is we cannot get to the point where we accept as normal. it is not normal. it's not the way our country has been set up, is designed to move forward and become a more perfect union. and we're going to see over this next -- thank goodness for this last election cycle. we're going to have good, honest, hard working, american-loving legislators that that's going to show american

people what's been going on and what's behind the curtains. and let me just say this, neil, i'm very excited about educational work force. this is really where we have to, the battle we're going to fight and win long term, obviously, we have some issues now with the president and an administration that's showing death everywhere, misery everywhere. but how we get this back is by educating ourselves to what our country comes down to. if we do not teach honor and virtue, we will lose, we will create a culture of traitors. if we don't teach reasoning, we'll create a culture of marxists, and that's where we're going right now. so i'm excited about not just what's happening today, but the coming months where we have oversight. our country coming back to teaching our kids what this country's all about, our classic values, education that teaches that we truly are the vaccine against evil as a nation. that's in our kna. neil -- dna. neil: congress bank, i know your more immediate concern is

getting a timeline on these documents. we've gotten some inconsistent stories on that. i know jim jordan has expressed an interest in getting to the bottom of that, a host of others. but that timeline still has not been creased. in other words, how it's -- addressed. in other words, how it's possible to discover these the documents back on november 2nd, days before the midterm election, has yet to be the resolved. some 68 days later, before the rest of the world did after that time. and i'm wondering, are you looking into that the timeline? are you looking into with various agencies and their response? all of the above? >> all the above. and i'll tell you, i've had this last term to get a chance to know the men and women chairing these chiefs and the men in particular in terms of oversight and judiciary, and i can tell the american people get ready for a chance to see what truth looks like. at the end of the day, we believe there should not be a double standard. our country's one in which a

meritocracy is at top of things and, again, most importantly, the rule of law is equal to everyone. and right now we're not seeing that. and we'll start seeing this desire not to be honest at the very top of our government. it's not a good thing to see. so we're going to be educated. i think we're going to get a lot m i think, confidence in the way our system should be working and give the american people the tools they need to make sure they're making the changes in the next couple of years that need to be made in d.c. neil: the president has dismissed republicans' agitation over this. this is from the president earlier this week. >> i think you're going to find there's nothing there. i have no regrets. i'm following what the lawyers have told me they want me to do, that's exactly what we're doing. there's no "there" there. neil: you're wasting your time. what'd you think?

>> yeah. understand this president is consistent. he's not honest. he's not really being straight with the american people. we had just recently, just a minute ago we talked about a quarter million people coming through the border. we have misery and death across our country based on this president's policies and his uncaring, unempathetic heart. so don't -- i don't believe a thing that comes out of the president's mouth, and i think the american people are beginning to realize and recognize that. the great thing, again, is that the american people spoke with having oversight with a divided party power right now. so republican party has a chance now to be, to step to the plate, show what we believe the american people need to see, which is the truth about what's going on right now with these documents and this dual standard of moving forward in justice. we cannot have that in this country to be hopeful about our future, cannot do it. neil: democrats turn it around,

congressman, and say it's a double standard, the republicans' response. they defended, you know, president trump mightily with news that he had hundreds of documents that he was not releasing from his mar-a-lago home, and they were appalled that the home was raided, but they have a different view of it when it concerns this president and far fewer documents that might not be nearly as bad. they say. this is the biden administration, we have cooperated every step of the way. what do you say to that? >> well, we'll see how, confirmation, the ability to work with us, we'll see, how it will bold out. we have weeks to come now to get position of oversight. if democrats want to be fair about the way they approached in the, there should be, again, no different standard against the way they treated trump and the way they treated biden. there is hypocrisy across the board when we started seeing the last two years of what the biden administration has done, and the american people are waking up to

that. they're seeing it. there's always been double standards. hopelessness to so many americans today, and we're just sick and tired of it. we're going to be addressing in the way we should, with transparency across the board. and we're going to have a conference, have hearings out in the actual community, out in the country which is going to be exciting to see. get ready for it. we're boeing to be very transparent and educate the american people, for sure. neil: all right, congressman, have a good weekend yourself. in the meantime here, we kid get some news late last night, they usually call that a document dump when no one's looking, to release things that might be embarrassing. in this case, a record number of migrants caught at the border. a big record. i mean, an out of control record. typically in a month where you don't see that sort of thing, we did and then some. what henry cuellar thinks of this after after this. o be the .

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>> there should be bipartisan efforts in to pass an authorized use of military force to deal with them. these cartels can actually battle close air support. they're battling government helicopters. this looks a lot like mogadishu than it does your tip the call organized crime -- typical organized crime ballot. neil: well, now the words of dan crenshaw who's saying maybe we need to involve military particularly to deal with the drug element and the drug smugglers and all of that, but it's timely now in light of some startling numbers we got sort of dumped on us late last night that showed more than 251,000 migrant encounters in december. now, keep in mind, december's a pretty cold month. it's usually not a month for a lot of migrant activity but, of course, it was a record and puts in perspective the fact of the matter that these numbers are exponentially growing. henri cuellar here to probably

say i told you so, the democratic congressman kind enough to join us. this confirms everything you've been talking about, that these numbers were not easing, they were worsening. and now you have your colleague, ben crenshaw on are -- the republican side, saying maybe it's time for the military to get involved on all the stuff that comes with the encounters, the drug cartels and the rest. what do you think of that? >> well, you know, first of all, let's talk about the cycles. if you look at historically the cycle of migration has, you know, during the winter time like right now the numbers should have gone down, and then they up in the springtime and they go down during the hot summer months, and then in the fall they would go up. so there were cycles where migrants would come in highs and lows. what we've seen the last two years is nothing historical,st just stayed very, very high. we got over 260,000 just passed in the month of december, the ones the that we know, doesn't

include the getaways. so we have to address the in a way that historically has to be taken in a very different set. we can do in this through law enforcement. i mean, the military, keep in mind that, you know, past prime ministers have done this with -- presidents have done this with border patrol, having a right policies who comes in and who gets deported. i know some folks don't want to talk about deportation, but if you don't have a consequence, neil, as you know, people will just continue coming. neil: so, you know, there's obviously frustration, you know, that brings on talk to bring in the military to deal with this. is there skepticism about that? the how mexico would respond? that there would be soldiers at the border, that mexico would be irate? >> well, look, we can do this with law enforcement and the right policies at border without the military. as you know, there is a law that prohibits the military from coming in. now, if we're talking about the

border, just keep in mind that the national guard and the other military that we've had have only provided support services, support services to the border patrol. we added more money to hire more border patrol, we need to -- we're about 2,000 below. but it's the not only the personnel that -- personnel and technology,st the policy at the border, the policies. if we don't allow in an orderly way the people that want to ask for asylum and then, you know, send back everybody who's not supposed to be here legally, then we're not going to have consequences. and if you talk to any border patrol, they would tell you that the law consequence; that is, sending back people that are not doing this correctly, would want that consequence they're not going to be able to do the work. they're tired, they're very tired. i've talked to a lot of border patrol agents who say we've got to do something stronger. neil: they say something stronger, congressman, a lot of these border patrol agents is to

impeach the homeland security sec or tear, mayorkas, because they say he hasn't lived up to the job, has given lip service to the job, and he's gotta go. what do you think of that? >> well, listen, i understand border patrol agents are desperate. i spend a lot of time with them just recently because, as you know, i do live here at the border. just yesterday i was talking to some of them yesterday. i know they're tired, i mow they're frustrated -- i know they're us from a anticipated. but i think impeachment doesn't take us where we need to go. if you look at the constitution, i don't think this rises to a constitutional level for impeachable. it would take away from people, democrats and republicans getting together and looking at what are the right policies that will get us to have a secure border. neil: all right. we'll see what happens, but, obviously, things are heating up. to be fair to you, congressman, you did see a lot of this coming long before either republicans or democrats did. henry cuellar in texas. in the meantime, you know

we've run up against our debt ceiling. it'd be like you and me running against our credit line on visa. of course, you and i do not have the luxury of just raising the credit line. republicans said, you know, we're not going to make it that easy, we think there should be some cuts to go along with raising that credit line. and the president says that's not going to happen. okay. this looks like a crisis. after this. owners, if your family is being hurt by inflation, and you need to cut hundreds, off your monthly expenses, call newday the newday 100 va cash out loan lets you take out an average of $70,000. use that low-payment home loan to pay off your high-rate credit cards. then, pay off your car loan. and then take the cash left over and put it in the bank for the financial security that every veteran deserves. aubree: i'm aubree. i went to st. jude because i had a cancerous tumor.

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to do it as a condition on the debt limit. neil: got it. >> saying you're not going to negotiate is irresponsible. the american people are being crushed by this inflation which is being caused by this unbelievable, unsustainable spending by this administration. and having conversations about it is the right thing, and it's the right thing to do now. neil: all right. well, the good news is they are going to have conversations. the president and kevin mccarthy are going to meet on this. now, the president is dead set against tying spending cuts to raising the debt ceiling. kevin mccarthy, equally adamant to do so on opposite side. so we don't know how that will go. we do know from edward lawrence right now that they're taking measures because right now we are at that limit, and we have we have to take those measures. edward has the latest from washington. >> reporter: right now republicans and president joe biden talking at each other, not with each other. the white house message is they're going to refuse to

negotiate over anything having to do with spending. now, a senior gop aide tells me that a right now leadership is coming up with specific asks that heir going to present to -- they're going to present to the president regarding the debt ceiling. facts sill remain unchanged. the congressional budget office says the pace will make spending on debt will make it largest government program. taxpayers spent $400 billion in fiscal 2022, like paying the minimum on your credit card. the cbo says those payments will be $1.2 trillion in 2032. >> we are by next year going to be spending more on interest than everything we spend on children. including education, child tax credits, child knew tradition, you name it. nutrition. so that's backwards. we should be investing her in the future, not paying for things we did in the past. >> reporter: even the federal reserve chairman who rarely talks about what congress is doing or the president is

spending, when asked, says we cannot continue to spend and run up debt. >> u.s. is on an unsustainable fiscal path, but it's not in an unsustainable position. we can service our debt, and the markets understand that. we can conduct our policy without thinking about questions of fiscal sustainability. >> reporter: and hose comments were made before the omnibus spending bill was signed into law. right now treasury secretary is saying that we have until about june, june 5th is the date that she gives, when we actually hit that debt ceiling. back to you. neil: thank you very much for that, edward lawrence. want to go to my friend brian brenberg, we call him the brilliant professor, he's going to be the cohost of "the big money show" along with jackie deangelis and taylor riggs, 1 p.m. eastern time on the business network. look toward to that. but, brian, not looking bard to how might or might not be resolved. our department now exceeds what we're worth. we owe more as a country than we're worth as a country.

that's not sustainable. >> that's dementedded. that word's been thrown around a lot these days. if you've got that much more debt than you're worth, that's dementedded. and the debt ceiling's not a great way to solve that because you do have to raise the debt ceiling or else you get a default on america's debt. that's an even bigger problem. but congress has got to use whatever's available to it. and right now the debt ceiling is thing available to it. you know, the president says he doesn't want to negotiate. well, that's the essence of government, mr. president. you've got to negotiate. especially when you've got this much debt. so i hope republicans can find a way, they're going to have to get creative, they're going to have to be the realistic, i think, about what they do as well if they want to get something done because they don't control government. they can't force their will. but you've got to have this fight as messy as it is, as tiresome as it may be, neil. you've gotta have the fight because with that much

department, you can't sit back on -- debt, you can't sit back on your heels and is just hope everything turns out. neil: yeah, and we know from 2011 experience, will they did try to strike a bargain where democrats would be open to address nondiscretionary spending and, you know, republicans were open to address defense spending. but we do know in the process we came very, very close to something that could have been calamitous. our debt was downgraded after that because of just the whole process. so i'm just curious how you see this working out and whether cooler heads prevail to avoid a default. >> yeah. well, look, to be honest with you, the way i see playing out is we're not going to get much in terms of spending reduction. i hate to say that because we need it, and i'd like republicans to be successful in that. but i don't see it happening because, number one, they've got to say together the on the and put together a plan that they could really get done. and, number two, i mean, they've really got to go could be to the wire with the debt ceiling, and i just don't know if they've got

the intinsal fortitude for it. and hay don't have the leverage, they don't have the power. when you have divided government, not much gets done in d.c. which i like typically, but in this case you probably actually need something to get done. and i just think it's unlikely. problem isn't the debt ceiling, that's a symptom of a culture in d.c. that doesn't understand what it means to live within our means. that culture's got to change before anything materially changes on debt. neil: no, you're right about that, brian. but i always think about in the, where it goes. i mean, you want to avoid default, and morally you'll get default if you can't make good on payments, social security payments, recipients and medicare recipients, to pay bondholders for their interest on the debt. but could you see any one of those things slipping, that, you know, this pushes to june, some say it really goes to late summer, but there's a point at which you get to know the turn wherest are very easy for a bill

that has to be paid not to be paid. >> i don't see it getting to that point, neil, because now you're talking about really devastating consequences. but i do think in the has to get serious. i mean, we have to understand we have these programs that we love. people, you know, who are on medicare depend on it. neil: right. >> people who are on entitlement practice depend on it. everybody's got some stake in a government spending program, but they all can't coexist this way. they just can't coexist this way, neil. and so we do -- things have to get painful. look, if they don't get painful now, if we don't have tough the conversations now, they're going to be worse conversations later: so america has to choose in a sense. are they going to hold their elected representatives responsible now and ask for tough decisions now, or are hay going to roll the dice, are they going to throw it on our kids and our grandkids, and are we going to end up with a real, significant problem in the years

aheadsome i'd rather deal with our problem now, pay for it now, deal with it now. don't throw it on the backs of the next generation who can't even think about the problem at this point, neil. let's take responsibility. neil: well, good luck with that. [laughter] we'll see what happens. i understand in light of this whole debt quagmire, you're going to rename the monday show, it'll be the big debt show. >> no! neil: i just wanted to check that. brian, you're the best. i can't wait for you, jackie and taylor together looking into issues like this on the fox business network, 1 p.m. eastern time. part of a new lineup where we, of course, remind you what fox business is all about. if you don't get it, demand it. so many of you have because we respond to you, and we don't speak in a lot of jargon and smarty pants language. by the way, on this whole debate about whether we shut down and where it goes, we're going to be speaking to the house budget committee chair, jodi arrington, in the next hour. where is the middle ground, if

there is such a thing. and then to virginia, the fight over those merit scholars and all those kids who got scholarships and didn't realize it. now lieutenant governor says it's time for a reckoning. after this. with chase freedom unlimited, you can cashback 3% on dining including take-out. cashback on flapjacks, baby backs, or the tacos at the taco shack. nah, i'm working on my six pack. well, good luck with that. earn big with chase freedom unlimited with no annual fee. how do you cashback? pain hits fast. so get relief fast. only tylenol rapid release gels have laser drilled holes. they release medicine fast for fast pain relief. and now get relief without a pill with tylenol dissolve packs. relief without the water.

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scholars in recognition of doing so well on what they call the psat college preparatory exam, but they were never notified of that. lydia hu has more on the fallout and why it happened. >> reporter: neil, week the u.s. department of education told fox business that the national merit scholars program is not run by department, so decisions about notifying students of recognition are made at the local level. and at the local level, there are calls that educators in virginia who failed to notify students of national merit award status be fired. now, comes as 17 public schools across 3 virginia counties admitted hay failed to immediately tell students about their recognitions. parents say it cost their kids a chance to include the accolade on college applications. now virginia governor glenn youngkin says this should never happen again, he's introducing legislation that would make it mandatory for schools to notify

parents and students of awards and scholarship opportunities as soon as school knows. that effort comes as virginia attorney general launches an investigation to determine whether civil rights have been violated. >> let's just remind ourselves that we do have a superintendent of schools in fairfax county who claimed this that equal outcomes for all students at any cost was her top priority. they're hired in equity consultants in order to drive this mentality. it is a relentless pursuit of equity that would damage the prospects of students. >> reporter: fairfax county schools in virginia maintainses that any suggestion that information about awards was deliberately wilt held from from students -- withheld from students is wrong with. neil, back to you. neil: thank you for that, lydia. with us now, the lieutenant governor of the beautiful state of virginia, winsome sears. lieutenant governor, i liked what you were saying yesterday, you'd had enough of this. the excuses you heard from fairfax county and the people

behind that have to go. what reaction have you gotten? >> well, neil, you know what? we are in the year 2023, but make no mistake about it, it's actually 1984 happening right before our eyes. we have a group of rogue educators, you heard it's not just one school, nor five schools, more ten. seventeen. count them, seventeen schools who have made decisions that they are going to remake education in their own image. and they're using our children to do it. and so that's why parents are are waking up. you talk about woke? they are awakening, because covid policies -- policies, not cosid, but covid policies -- that force our children to remain home and look at a computer screen for public education showed parents all is not well. so we're going to do things differently here in virginia. accountability is a must.

we have pulled the curtain back, and it ain't pretty. so things are going to change. neil: all right. now, we've gotten different explanations out of this from fairfax county officials and others who have been involved in this to say everything from it was a clerical mistake with no bad intentions you said but the bottom line -- but the bottom line is all these students who heretofore were recognized as scholars and would have gotten money to ease cost of going to college, many of them there now, never got it. so what's there now? where do they go now? >> well, as i said, will has to be accountability -- there has to be accountability. and don't snow us with idiotic statement that the, well, it wasn't intentional. well, one is a mistake, maybe five. but seventeen schools? if you think that we are fools? no. we have come to understand what's going on. as i said, they're remaking

education in their own image. they're playing chess and, apparently, we've been playing checkers. but no more. because exactly my bill, h.b. 1508, is going to give the parents the ability to decide where their children should go to school. two-thirds of money that would normally stay with the schools are going to say with the schools. all the federal dollars, all the state collars will go with the child -- dollars will go with the child. but this is for parents to say, you know what? i'm going to make the decisions for my child because i've always been able to do that, and we shouldn't have had to put a law in virginia to say parents are responsible for the upbringing, for the health, for everything for their child. this is where we are. and the only thing that that these rogue educators will understand is when the money is taken from them and given to the child. not the brick building, but the child so that competition will change things. the teachers' union is behind

this, make no mistake. you follow the money, and they -- these rogue educators get their talking points from them. well, parents, you're back in charge. you elected us to do this job for you, and we're going to do it because the future of your child is at stake. neil: you know, lieutenant governor, we've come to discover many of these kids who missed out certainly getting word of their scholar status were asian-american. and a disproportionate number. i'm wondering whether that was either deliberate or just the way it worked out or whether on another area those that made sure that they didn't get word of this have another case on their hands? >> you know, you hear me sighing because i just can't believe that this is state of education we have only to -- come to. we have played these color games

in education before. in fact, it affected people who look like me. and that was called brown v. board of ed and all of these other ones. pleasure and it was called red- lining. and we're not playing that anymore. it doesn't work, and you can't -- i think, ultimately, we have to ask ourselves what's really going on? at its foundation is we have a group of -- and it's mostly democrats, but they're ultra-left. because, make no mistake about it also, already democrats who are understanding that hair child -- their child has been affected by this. they're raising their child to be the best that they can be, but you have some government folks who are saying, well, no. everybody must reach the same at same point, at -- nothing many life works like that, so there are democrats who are coming alongside of us and saying, yeah, we want our children to succeed. we like what you're doing. and that's why they voted for

us. they voted differently. and you're going to see more of that. we had a subcommittee in education looking at my bill, hearing my bill, and is you had all the democrats vote against parents making the choice on where to send their child to school. and do you know who saw that? there were black parents and latino parents and asian and white parents who are democrats and who voted for them. these democrats who voted against them, they saw that. their eyes are being opened, and that's what we pray for and that's what we're getting. eyes are being opened. neil: keep us posted, lieutenant governor. you're very blunt in your answers, and i think people no matter where they stand the think that's rare for a politician. they appreciate that. winsome sears, the lieutenant governor of virginia. we have put out calls to the teachers union, fairfax officials to no resolve just yet, but we will keep you posted. by the way, we were mentioning this quick white house meeting being cooked up on part of kevin mccarthy and the president of the united states,

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the longest we've had to wait with was in 1973. will we break that strike? as -- streak,? as we go through the afternoon tomorrow, the storm starts to move along new jersey, but we've got too much warm air coming in from the south. that's going to mean a rain event along the i-95 corps -- corridor. we're just too far to the south to get in on the cold air, so it's going to be a rain event. how much snow? up to a foot for the white mountains, the green mountains, about 8-12 inches for the catskills, right up in through maine as well. storm number two through the middle part of the week, i'm going to pause at 4:00 on wednesday afternoon. look at pink area. that's the rain/snow line. could see some snow, maybe light, right over places like new york. but we're on the border here. we need a tenth of an inch of snow for it to count, to be measurable. the counterclockwise rotation does mean we've got some warmer

air coming in off of the atlantic, so it looks like it could be mainly a rain event. if it scoots down just a little bit to the north, then we're talking measurable snow. it does mean more snow for upstate new york, pennsylvania, again, the mountains, the higher elevations of vermont, new hampshire and maine. the sec round giving us heavy snow -- second round. boston, 13 inches below and, neil, 10 inches below where we'd like to see is know that'll -- the snowfall totals. wednesday we'll watch for some snow. neil: all right, my friend, thank you very much for that. craig herrera what could be a double can-barrel storm for a lot of kids in the northeast who are thinking, where is the snow? careful what you wish for. also be careful what you wish for in washington, d.c. even though you have a may your who says, you know what? we want to start toughening up a lot of our crime issues where, you know, people can get off even if hay burglarize or rob a home and they get a slap on the wrist. unfortunately, she was overruled

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>> i think that everybody supports modernizing the criminal code. unfortunately, i don't believe that should include weakening penalties, adding policies that have nothing to do with updating the code and adding work to courts that are already overburdened and understaffed. neil: so the mayor in d.c. just want to toughen up on some crimes where those who were found guilty of burglary or breaking into homes or robberies and all would just get a slap on the wrist, least toughen them up somewhat, but she was overruled by the city council almost

unanimously, all but one overriding that veto here. and now, of course, this is in the hands of congress. that's the oddity about washington d.c. congress could take this into its hands and erase all of that. but ted williams, former d.c. homicide detective, great attorney as well, fox news contributor, on how weird this is. and that's best way i can explain it, ted. i can't see why that would be a point of contention or argument, to say that, you know, treating those who are found to have burglarized a home or held up someone and conducted violence are given a little more than a slap on the wrist. you would think that everyone would kind of be in sync on that. apparently, not so. >> you know, neil, you're absolutely right. you would think that everyone, specifically lawmakers in the district of columbia, would be onboard with doing anything he can to bring crime down. but i can el you the -- tell you "the washington post," d.c.

police union, the mayor, the chief of police, while they are onboard for some reformation of the system because the system is over a hundred years old, the criminal code, that is, they are not interested in reduction of crime. and some of what is in this new bill would certainly lead to the reduction of burglaries, the maximum-minimum for carjackings which are out of control in the city. crime is out of control. and, you know, neil, what the city council should realize is that this is going to drive businesses out of the cricket of columbia -- district of columbia as long as crime is out of control. and they're not helping by this, the revisions that they want to make in the criminal code. neil: you know, ted, real quickly, it's one thing -- and you and i have talked about -- in places like los angeles and seattle where they had if you

stole under $1,000 worth of goods from the store, you wouldn't have to worry about it. but this is raising it to the point of, you know, people who do pretty serious crimes here. and that rend alarms me. >> well, you're absolutely right. these are serious crimes, burglaries, robberies, carjackings. we've had carjackings in the district of columbia in recent months and years here where individuals have actually been killed as a result of these crimes. you would have to believe that the city council is blind and deaf to what is going on in the city right now. and that's the sad commentary, neil. neil: it is indeed, my friend. you've been all over it. ted williams, former d.c. homicide detective and attorney. he'll help you, you know, if you've been the victim of a crime, maybe even handle your case in court. that's a pretty twin power there. all right, in the meantime, taking a look at some news that

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