also a sign of dangers to pilots of live aircraft. >> an arizona firefighter stoppeds to a call near his home, he saw his young daughter running up the street to give him a hug. that is how fox wants sunday january 22,2023, i'm jon scott, thanks for watching. trey: good evening thank you for joining us, i am trey gowdy, it's "sunday night in america," more classified documents have been found in president biden's home. every couple of days seems to be a new discovery. he might want to invest in a pack of bloodhounds rather than paying lawyers, the lawyers have missed a lot so far. actually the fbi is doing the searching themselves, i wonder if the fbi would be this patient if it were you

and me, this time it was documents from biden's time as vice president but also dating back to his days in u.s. senate even liberal democrats like dick durbin are questioning how senator, vice president and president biden could be careless in handling classified information, lucas joining us live from the white house with more. reporter: white house said more classified duties were found in president biden's wilmington home. they were described -- 6 items consisting of documents with classification markings and surrounding materials some of which from president's service in senate and tenure as vice president, the president said, 10 days ago

he thought that the search was over. >> my lawyers reviewed other places where documents of -- from my time, as vice president w stored, they finished that review last night. reporter: biden spent last weekend at his wilmington home, it was searched by the fbi friday. and this weekend at his other delaware home, but no classified documents have been found there yet. >> it takes us to the question of why were the documents here, now we learn some go back to his senate time, he h has decam a serial classified document hoarder. reporter: this goes back to his time a long way. trey: thank you lucas tomlinson, we'll continue monitoring this story. >> speaker has been ch

chosen, committees populated, now there is plenty of work to be done. each branch is empowered to conduct their own investigation, judicial branch is investigating a leak of a opinion. and other investigating biden and trump. congress is empowered provide oversight and va scrutiny over the agents, what happens when the branches don't cooperate with other one. joining us now former deputy assistant attorney general

professor john yu. start with latest. media telling us how different biden's facts are from trump's. you are a highly trained lawyer, do you see distinguishti distinctions and do they make a difference. >> trey, first thing to keep in mind biden and trump would be, if the facts bear out, potentially in violation of the same federal law for same activity, holding unauthorized, clas classified duties, the rule of law and constitution demand that similar cases be treated in a similar way. there are some differences, with biden, we don't know what all of the facts are yet, every time it sounds like his lawyers or fbi to be or someone looks in where

biden has a property they find more classified documents, we don't know the full story there, president trump also kept documents, one thing is is different, so far president trump had more, and president trump fought more with the government in terms of turning them over. on the other hand, what we need to know, is what was the harm to the national security. where did the dumas where were they? how did they get there? who had access? it may be the case that trump's holds of the document is less of harm to national security. and bidens are in a locked garage. and then a locked closet. and his home? that might be more of a threat to national security, more people might have had access to them. trey: professor, you raised a fascinating point. i want to know what

documents were, if i could see the nature of the documents, maybe i could figure out the motive, whether to keep mementos to write a book. congress has power to investigate, that does not mean that others will cooperate, doj, where you worked will not discuss on going investigations if congress will say we want to talk you to about on going investigations, they are not doing it. where does this fight det resolved? >> i agree, what you said in your led in, congress has to reassert its open power of investigation, they need to get to the bottom of this, they are only ones that can make sure that trump and biden cases are treated fairly and equally, if they want to go far they could offer them both immunity, say it you fully corporate,

we'll give you both immunity from prosecution it is more important now to worry less about prosecution than figure out why does this keep happening, a third person, in their violation of handlings of classified information and harm on our national security was hillary clinton, running all classified e-mails from state department that went to her to a private, unclassified server. trey: all right professor, before i let you go, congress has lo power to. in reality, what can congress do to compel corporations event if they want do investigate?

>> as you said, to force compliance with congressional subpoena justice department, who works for attorney general who works for president biden has to be willing to bring contempt, i am not that confident this justice department would do those fairly and evenly without regard to partisan bias. we've seen the cases in the past for example under president obama contempt citations were not prosecuted again democratic office holders, only thing congress can do is bring it to public, and say, you the voters you decide whether this matters to you and whether the government is acting fairly, when it treats similar cases, it should treat them the same. trey: biggest jury of all, the public. professor john yoo thank you so much. >> impeachment articles have been filed against the dhs

secretary mayorkas, what are the grounds? joining us now congressman tony gonzalez who represents the district in texas but also a border district. it was a texas congressman who filed impeachment articles did me consult with you or more members before. >> he did not, thank you for having me on. it is important that we let the facts lead us to the truth. i am very confident that chairman comer will come to the truth with the oversight committee, it is important that republicans don't fall into the same trap as democrats and not make this political. we don't have to. because the facts will speak for themselves. i think it is important that republicans allow the process to take hold, instead of coming a conclusion before we begin. trey: you raised two

impeachments on president trump, one of the criticisms it was a rush to judgment. there was no investigation, remember they wanted witnesses during the senate trial, because they didn't talk to witnesses when they should have. lis has case against m mayorkas been made, if he is doing what joe biden wants him to do, then why is the issue not with joe biden? if you want to get rid of someone, and mayorkas is doing what his boss tills him to do, why stop with mayorkas? >> trey, a great point, we have seen president biden's recklessness with the way he handled, afghanistan getting 13 americans killed, and the way he has handled the border and the way he is class handling the classified material, what is in that material? i met with secretary mayorkas over a week ago, we sat down, one thing i asked him for, that border patrol agents that i represent asked me for was get them

out of the processing business, get them back to field, i brought back one case in particular, a station in la selle country that was closed for 6 months, i asked if he would consider reopening it, he did, now we have 96 border patrol agents that are no longer processing and they are back out in the field, this is how we help keep america safe it is important that governing conservatives, push the administration to sit down and have a could a conversation, we can't just throw bombs and expect changes, we have to force them to have a change. trey: majority is thin on the republican stated -- side, do you get sense there are other republicans who say, we we don't like the policies but let's build the case before we pro young pronounces t the.

>> sentence. >> dem republicans we can't be the party of the rhetoric, we have to be party of action. only one secretary has been impeached in history of our country, i don't want republicans to get consumed, we have to hold the d administration accountable. we can't get side tracked. i want to know what is on hunter biden laptop just as much as the next person but what is important is stopping the fentanyl, stoppings the terrorists. president trump had 10 -- you know how do we reimplement the president trump policies that worked on the border.

>> i'm exhausted just thinking about all of work. it is going to be work. congressman thank you for giving us some of your time and joining us on a sunday night. >> thank you, trey. trey: up next, a fight brew over so-called debt limit, which has been raised 78 times in last 73 years. doesn't really sound like a limit. charles payne is joining us next. ♪ whenever heartburn strikes, get fast relief with tums. its time to love food back. ♪tum, tum tum tum, tums♪ meet leon the third...

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times by both parties, rather than debating the debt ceiling, why not debate what is causing the debt and what the country needs to do to balance the books, joining to us figure out where this economy is. host of making money on fox business, mr. charles payne. where are we with the economy. >> great to be on the show. trey: thank you. being with us, where do you think we are, will we be bet either year with the economy? >> no, we won't be better this year with the economy, first we have battle with run away inflation. now the consequence of that federal reserve which is waging war on the economy. and economy coming off a sugar high, a heck of a

one-two punch. only thing that is holding up right now is the jobs market, everything else from housing to manufacturing, not that they are coming down, but they are coming down really fast. it is ugly, still you have the federal reserve saying there is too much money sloshing around out there, they have to find a way to push it back, otherwise people will spend. here is the irony, average person sitting at home government sent them checks, don't did to work we'll pay you, here more money, and the government did it so you would spend it, as president, you say when i was president, the gdp was up 7%, you don't change that for information. but average person says, i got all this money but my we'll time -- real-time wages have gone down. trey: ton i want to ask

about another potential train, but first a clip from democrat member of the house. >> what we can't do it put full faith and cre credit of america at risk, we need to raise the debt limit responsibility. and we have talk about our fiscal health and do that in a responsible way. trey: my question is. how do we raise the debt limit responsibly for the 100th time and why not be really responsible and figure out why we're in so much debt that is responsible to me. >> you could argue these should be done in budget and appropriation part, but the showdown its, the kabuki theater that goes with it, that could have been any

democrat go given time last 6 years, i feel these days it mostly political theater. last showdowns we had the stock market was up. i'm not concerned about the stock market part, but it is important that we bring some fiscal s santee back -- sanity back. we keep adding entitlements. it is scary. i don't get why all these smart otherwise rational people can't do basic math. we know we can't go on forever, not long ago the debt ceiling was 20 billion now it is 31 trillion, it is a problem, we should take care of it. trey: this may shock you, "new york times" this morning was discussing

deficits and debt, they played blame at feet of tax cuts, you mentioned mandatory spending, you can't raise taxes enough to cover the deficit, there have to be cuts probably to mandatory spending how do you do that when you get reelected. >> i think we have to sending folks to dc who don't expect to get reelected. people talk a good game. the pox is on us american public we keep voting these people in, every poll you see, they say, throw the bums out, exempt my bum. the nothing we have learned in life, nothing comes for free. blaming tax cuts, i will say, the notion that a tax cut means you take less

money from someone else. either business or someone else. someone who earned that money. i have always been frustrated with that notion somehow, you are giving somebody something by taking less away that they have earned, the notion is attack tax cuts that is not the way to go, it is to be fiscally responsible. and both sides will have to do it, i don't know if there will could the will, we have seen a small skirmish amongst republicans in defense spending, i believe in my heart of hearts we'll hit that proverbial wall, i don't know where it is, i don't see the will power, not to hit it. trey: i'm v glad i'm sitting here sunday night talking to you, not getting ready to go back to washington, thank you charles payne. >> coming up all shootings are not the same, what is the difference between murder, manslaughter, in

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new mexico, alec baldwin pulled the trigger of a gun. killing one person and injuring another, how does a live loaded gun make it on the so the in a movie. who was supposed to clear the firearm, baldwin, has been charged with involuntary manslaughter. what is the difference between murder, manslaughter, involuntary manslaughter and a,accident. joining us mercedes. let the viewers know the difference. between murder and involuntary manslaughter. >> great to be on. murder could either be premeditated or done in commission of a felony. the involuntary manslaughter

versus accidental killing, alec baldwin's lawyers theory will be simple, it was an accident, alec baldwin had no reasonable belief that harm would take place when he had the gun in his hand, he got up inv-- was told that there was no live round, he was handed the gun, no amount of belief he could have at that very moment there could be harm to halyna hutchins. here is the reason why it will be problematic. you have to look at totality of the circumstances surrounds that -- when the shot was fired. you know that there were already safety concerns and employees had walked off the set, you know that the armorer is someone who was very young, presumably

inexperienced, overworked and overwhelmed, she also faces involuntary manslaughter charges, she was the one responsible to ensure there were no live rounds in the guns. here you have all of these facts and circumstances presumably leading to time that miss halyna hutchins died. at any person in this that room on that set would say, why don't i check the gun, there have been representations made about the gun, if that gun is not safe, someone will die. and i would bet my life, if we were jurors in this case, i would say there has to be some checks and balances done by the individual who was handed the gun, why didn't he look into the gun or have a specific question, asked imposed about the gun, other problem is that fact that on the airwaves, when alec baldwin had made comments about what happened, he said he never

pulled trigger, there is an fbi report that says it is impossible for that gun to have discharged without the trigger pulled. these are problematic. a jury will look back it is a simple message, did you really exercise the appropriate care, involuntary manslaughter is all about reckless disregard for safety of others. trey: mercedes, if i were on the jury, i guess one of my questions would be did the script call for him to point will gun at halyna hutchins, and on pulling of trigger, the inconsistent. i don't want to sound like a prosecutor, seemingly inconsistent statements has to be tough for a defense attorney to overcome. >> such a great point.

that will be problematic for him, if alec baldwin takes the stand. there has been history of celebrities who had criminal changes again them, they take the stand they want to explain themselves, they are already -- high individual who are able to express themselves, they know how to do it in a public setting, they think they can articulate their narrative more effectively than their lawyers, if he does take the stand. he will be faced with blistering cross-examining a question, saying there no way the gun could have discharged without you pulling the trigger, why did you make those statements. if he takes the stand, hopefully, his lawyers will have a conversation with him, talk about a plea deal, david halls is a cooperating

witness. you have a corporating went who has b plead. >> mercedes colwin thank you for brings a light to something that i used to know, thank you for taking us back to criminal law. and joining us on a sunday ni night. tnight. >> my pleasure. trey: up next, the psychology of a killer, criminal profiler john kelly will join us next. oh my goodness... wow, look at all those! you get hungry for more and then you're just like, “wow, i'm learning about my family.” yeah, yep. which one, what'd you find? lorraine banks, look, county of macomb, michigan? look at grandma...

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the first question is who and thin almost immediately, it is why. the answer to why, leave us more confused and heart broken, the word motive, rarely has to be prove confident part it is defined a rya reason for doing something, we have to be careful discusses motive, there isr no the reason for acts of deproperty, reasonable people who would never hurt an innocent person, will always struggle to understand the motives of those who commit actions of evil. we try to understand the motive for the actions of people who don't think or feel or alike the rest of us. rathrational people trying to process an, irrational mo motivation

is hard, what could explain killing 4 college students in their sleep or shooting up an elementary school, killing a child, r r randomly shoots strangers in a public place, or killing and kid kidnapping a young mother out for a jog. sometime only explanation is depravity. malice, a conscious disregard for life, there is never a reason for that, i used to listen as defense attorneys would til tell the jury, that client killed someone because their client was the victim of neglect, the killer killed a stranger working in the store or waiting on a bus or a stranger out for a jog, we

ask why, because we cannot process the senseless killing of innocent people, but the why leading us with just as membership other questions -- many other questions, joining us mr. john kelly. let's start with the crime scene, how can a crime scene help you as you begin to build a profile of a killer. >> trey, in many different respects, i want to give my sympathies and condolences to all of the victims and their families and friends in both of these cases. getting to the question, the power is in the question, you look at a crime 6 scene, how you come up with answers depends on evidence and will tell you a lot about what was at the crime scene, how the victim of the found, what is the trace evidence. you unemploy

unknow, what kind of weapon was used. were they covered, every single crime scene is pretty much unique. the question is, what kind of personalty do we have. do we have someone that is just enraged or that since rifted in sex, or -- that is interested in sex or profit from it. al watt the question that you brought up in the beginning. you know, why? why? why is the question that if gets answered can lead you to the who. trey: and you know, john, you have dedicated your life to trying to answer that question, that the question of all family and friends of homicide victims, they want to know why. sometime it's hard to process the thinkings of someone who could engage in an act of depravity. i don't know, sometime the

weapon used, a knife is more personal than a .22. but do we ever go down this -- is it of are not help follow to figure out a why? >> continue is like, how do you answer an insane question. what is an insane answer, you are right. the bottom line is what are they after? it usually vengeance, sex or money. okay. or it is someone that having a break usually revenge plays a role. when we're looking at idaho murders, i have to focus on whoever the killer was, very much into revenge, but also i really believe that sex played a big role in this. i really believe that this person and we have see

seen it before, the person was sexually aroused by using a knife, to walk into a house you have at least 5 people, but, you are going to interact with 3, but there were a fourth and one is a male. you really have to be over the edge, really angry. but also, you know, that sexual urge and when you say depravity, you can under line that. because, some of these guys get their kicks. and most extreme and unusual ways, which are extremely morbid. we have pretty much come across it all, a lot of times with the knife, you know, a knife can be used to in a lot of different situations. but it is a symbol to some

of them and ogasmic act to use it. i am not saying this is what happened in idaho case, but we're looking at rage, and we're looking at some kind of a sexual acting out as far as i'm concerned. what else is the payoff. if you are trying to figure out the risk reward, in this case, i mean, what was the payoff. was sexual gratification the payoff, was revenge you know enough gratification for the payoff,. i think we're dealing with rage, and i think we're dealing with depravity as you mentioned. trey: john we have a little bit of time, i say put people's mind at ease, i don't know if it will.

the stranger crime captivates our attention, in your, p pe experience is a person likely to be killed by someone they know. >> most of the time it is machine th someone that knows and loves them. the harder to solve is stranger on stranger murders. >> thank you so much. >> you are welcome. trey: thank you for dedicating your life, a tough way to make a living. >> up next, what if you love your job, but maybe not your coworkers? what if you love your coworkers but not your job? how to know if and when to leave, our next guest was the top of her profession in washington d.c., then she left. we'll find out why next. f the w!

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knowing when to stay. sometimes we stay because we are not sure. we don't feel peace, we may love our coworkers, even if we don't love the work. as you think about your own life, those you carry about there have been opportunities, choices and decisions on when to start, stay with or leave something. what we decide can impact our lives in significant ways. sheria clarke started on h hohouse ethics committee. her husband had a great job in northern virginia, their children were doing great and coworkers loved her and members of congress respected her, she decided to leave and start new jobs and. >> sch new school, new

church, a new city, a new state. joining us now former chief counsel for house ethics committee, a prosecutor in great state of south carolina, sheria clarke. you had scaled the mountain. how did you know it was time to leave washington? >> well, you know, it took a lot of prayer. i'm a person of faith. that is the first thing i do before i make a decision. talked with my husband about it. there are times, seasons of life. and i had to begin to to evaluate, does what i'm doing in washington fit in season of life that i'm in we had small children, i wanted to make sure i was not losing something with my

children that i could not regain. we spent a lot of time in prayer and talked with people who are important in our lives that you know we could go to and talk with. it felt like it was right time. i had done a lot, seen a lot, it was a great experience. but it was time for me to focus on something else. trey: this -- thank you for reading the book, i have not been able to get to the end myself. i write about difference between regrets and memories and nostalgia, i'm sure there are moments when maybe you have a tinge of wondering if you should have stayed. >> you know, there are moments, i did read your book from cover to cover, there are moments, where you remember the people, there are a lot of great people that i met that i worked

with. across the aisle that worked with me in different committees, i miss them, it is a lot of excitement involved in that role. you are on the inside, you know what is going on, you don't have to read the news to know what is happening, you miss that. looking back. there are moments of a tinge of regret, but i know i made the right decision, i have a lot of great opportunities, and looking at what i want in my life, and do i want to look back and see what my life looks like i knew i needed to make a change it was a great time, i was there for almost 10 years, and se served on various committees, met a lot of people. you know the time had come, i wanted to make sure of it right decision for me and my family. trey: all right sheria, sometimes people get caught up in titles, you had the

highest title a nonmember of congress could have in staff director, what advice would you have for people who are kind of tied up in their title or, have you found there is something more important to focus on in life? >> i feel there something more to focus on in life. titles come and go. but you know, you need to look at what is important to you. what do you -- how do you want to make an impact, sometimes a title does not allow you to make the impact that you want to make some, bring a lot of bureaucracy, whereas you know being prosecutor allows you to do. in dc, you are right, you could get caught up in titles. i think a lot of time, most fulfilling work i did, is when i was a line staffer, i sat down and conducted interviews and ask the questions once i became

staff director there were other tasks to focus on. i could not be involved in the modest of the investigation -- middle of the investigation, title is a wonderful achievement, it is not the end all and be all of your career. i think you need to focus on what is your purpose, what are you interested in and how does this title help me achieve that purpose. trey: all right sheria, i was going to ask but voices that give you advice in life, but i saw a picture of you from washington that had tim scott and j john ratcliffe in it, what a motley crue that is, thank you so much for joining us on a sunday night. i look in order to seeing you soon. >> thank you so much, trey. trey: thank you, for spinning part of your sunday with us -- spending part of your sunday with us, i hope you have a dp great week ahead, until next line you

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