ahead, until next line you can find us on-line or trey gowdy podcast, good night from south carolina, "life, liberty and levin" is up next. ♪ ♪ [music shannon: a new round of classified items the president told and concerns about financial fallouts with that that will again. >> if they want to play a game of chicken we will play. >> the treasury department buying time with extraordinary measures as republicans bicker with the white house spirit the president has been clear it should not be used as a political weapon.

shannon: moderate republicans are called for that take it or leave it approaching come to the table. he will say that with a bipartisan conversation with two cochairs from the problem solvers caucus. will talk about how to find consensus on the limit and immigration and more of "fox news sunday" exclusive. thousands of pro-life advocates come to the nation's capital for the first march for life sense them supreme court overturned roe v wade and now looking at the abortion laws of the state where prominent voices are from both sides. eight months after the unprecedented leak of the supreme court ruling no answers and in the high court about the leaker spiritually to stop this in the future is to hold them accountable and the future.

shannon: will we ever find out who did it? all right now on "fox news sunday". hello from fox news in washington breaking overnight at least ten people dead another ten injured after a mass shooting your los angeles. late last night and monterey park california where a lunar new year celebration was taking place. they believe the shooter is mail and at this time it appears the person is not a casino word on motive. deputies are reviewing security video and monterey park is about 10 miles east of los angeles and we will keep you updated on any developments. the justice department sees more classified documents from the private residence coming as biden prepares to speak in person with house speaker mccarthy to discuss a new congress that is a debt limit

congress is facing a deadline to make sure the treasury department steps in to avoid a government default. mabel chat with two congressman to press their way into the nation's most polarized policy debate but first let's turn to the white house for their multiple developing stories this morning. reporter: facing we need criticism after more classified documents are found in the wilmington delaware home and the fbi. the president is facing a fight and has top aid is leaving. the white house chief of staff could be stepping down in coming weeks the biggest of archer since the president took office two years ago. the move was expected.

he has been looking at the legislative triumphs of the last years in the supreme court confirmation. but also to major controversies like the disastrous us departure from afghanistan. he maybe that's not helping the presidents massive spending bills like the one.9 trillion-dollar covid relief plan $1 trillion infrastructure bill and inflation reduction act. craddick said help to accelerate the current inflation crisis and add to the national debt. in 2000 it was just over $5 trillion now climbing to over $31 trillion today. money already spent and now the us is over the borrowing limit which puts the nation's credit rating at risk. >> to threaten default and catastrophe nobody should do that no matter how much they believe in the agenda.

reporter: republican say they were spending cuts if they raise the debt limit higher but the white house is raise the limit. no negotiations. >> a basic responsibility congress has to do with the debt ceiling. >> planning to add all the top democratic leaders on tuesday and also plans to host kevin mccarthy. the first meeting since he became speaker mccarthy responded president biden i accept your invitation to sit down and discuss a responsible debt ceiling increase. >> white house officials are spinning this differently calling this a meeting but not a negotiation. while the present faces continue discussion over handling classified documents. the new house majority leader tells fox the rules of justice should apply equally in this is one more example they are not applied the equally to democrats and republicans. two democratic senators are also calling for a full

investigation and they are both up for reelection in 2024. shannon: reporting from the white house thank you very much. joining us now cochairs of the house problem solvers caucus from new jersey and republican congressman of pennsylvania. welcome back to "fox news sunday". let's start with the headlines overnight not what white house wants to see with more classified material at the wilmington home. as a legal professional and professor of constitutional scholars there is no real question that the biden documents were grossly mishandled. only remains who is responsible yet another discovery of documents that is crushing for his team. he says he is everything right it has no regrets. but should he? >> we have seen the justice

department is conducting an ongoing investigation. that is the proper process and you want to get to the bottom of these things why they were at his home yesterday with full cooperation and that's what we need to do. the white house needs to cooperate and then that is what they have been doing. that is in stark comparison against former president trump. so as the white house does what it should do come i think that is the appropriate process. of course in a broader sense we understand in any white house how any documents whatever get out to make sure that never happens. shannon: in contrast there have been ongoing investigations with this justice department with that white house legal team and there was an agreement but what we found is more questions than answers. andy mccarthy tweeted out if not this latest discovery

awkwardly worded statement although as favorable as possible with six items consisting of documents of classified markings. and we don't know what they mean by items a box or an envelope or how many in each item? there is a special counsel investigation already underway. maybe democratic senators are interested in oversight said it will investigate. anywhere you have the house gop will over our look like they are politicizing it? >> i don't believe so. two things are true. classified documents can never be taken out ever. but the former fbi development house intelligence committee. and equal application of the law. we need to ensure we do a deep dive into the circumstances or other prior administration dealing with classified

documents to make sure the law is applied equally across the board. that's at the american people are demanding. shannon: "the wall street journal" has reported on conversations between the two teams whether or not fbi agents or others should be doing these searches now that we are on number five. there friday they allowed the biden team to handle it. but they are looking speedy to disclose only after justice issues the all clear. but the approaches accusations the team purposely kept the public in the dark. we know the started before the midterms. to get the perception there are differences in the way doj handled democratic cases? >> there is a huge difference if you look at the trump administration and while lago the refusal to cooperate for one year. weather obstruction or

subpoena and the president didn't come forward and offer up documents that keeping them locked up. this administration has cooperated in a constructive way but the justice department. the president wasn't trying to uphold the documents as a trophy but the bottom line is we need to have full cooperation and investigation. get to the bottom of what happened why and when to understand and in the broader sense to make sure no administration is ever able to handle classified documents this way from a classified setting and we should get to the bottom of both. >> and to have a hand in the coming weeks and months, there is a piece with mccarthy speaking out that there are no logs this is in the home. there are questions of people

who would have been there. i'm very confident if the secret service believes it's in the interest of the security the information would be produced for the bureau to be produced at warp speed. one source says the secret service is prepared to come forward but congress will have to act. congressman fitzpatrick will you do that? >> we will. there are multiple ways to gather evidence. a visitors log would be helpful. there other forms of evidence a video and physical surveillance and witness interviews there is a whole host of ways to collect evidence. i have no doubt we will make sure that the bureau does her job to investigate the case. it's very important for people in america facing confidence in the justice system and is important for me they do things the right way so the

american public has confidence including equal application of the law. that's how we make sure that happens. shannon: you are trying to make sure that we don't default on our credit rating and negotiating actively on a deal that could come together but the white house says no negotiations at all but that's not practical. we had then reporting over in foxbusiness and you are working on a debt through gdp ratio hitting a certain number of automatic cuts can you give us any sense of the negotiations and the ratio and how in the world do you decide who's programs are cut in that scenario? >> the first thing that has to happen speaker mccarthy has made several overtures to the white house to work out a

reasonable situation. i white house accepts his offer. offering speaker mccarthy the opportunity and i hope that happens. shannon: that will not will be a negotiation over the debt ceiling. >> that's a problem and that is not leadership. when you have a divided government with a one-vote democratic margin in the senate you have to negotiate. that's at the american people elected us to do to work this out. nobody should take a position we will not negotiate. that's very irresponsible. but one thing we will offer up as a bridge building solution to go at the 1970 law itself to establish the debt limit as a numerical dollar amount which doesn't make sense. practically speaking it should be debt to gdp ratio that was about 40 percent now it is

that 125 percent. that is not sustainable if a child has a spending problem you pay their bills and take away their credit card. so what we will propose whatever negotiated about we can agree on with the debt to gdp. it affects certain budgetary reforms kicking on the discretionary side we are putting meat on the bones working to their proposed solution that first the president has to sit down with speaker mccarthy. often negotiates in good faith of the president does the same. shannon: the "washington post" as a senior democrat had a conversation with white house chief of staff who may be leaving soon. he said no holds barred you have to make it look like we are the responsible ones and republicans are irresponsible

with the entitlements. so congressman can you work with that and that is a strategy or theory? how do you move the ball? >> i had conversations with the white house just this weekend. items optimistic they will sit down just as they always have why we will accomplish so much. there are things that are reasonable on the table and then reasonable. vetting social security and medicare. shannon: the speaker said just to be clear that that is a talking point and republicans will not do that. >> by the way that's great. i don't think it should be on the table. 30 percent sales tax should not be on the table but plenty of things should be and we're having discussions i think the white house you see kevin mccarthy and the president are sitting down but what we can't do this but the full faith and

credit of the united states of america at risk we cannot put their 401(k) at risk to make sure we date raise the debt limit responsibly and also talk about our fiscal health in a responsible way. we need to do both and i am optimistic we will sit down to work this out we have no other choice. shannon: knowing what the strategy is for ron maclean does that change the way you can work with this administration? >> i don't think so. we will let the speaker take the lead on this with his negotiations and we will offer solutions that is hopefully constructive. i don't believe it will affect our relationship with the white house that is our job as representatives a matter what party we're from to do our part to make government work. we have worked well with a lot of people over there.

shannon: the american people wish you well to find solutions to those treacherous problems we have now. thank you for joining us. up next that president downplaying concerns how he handled classified documents year ago found again in his home and now we having it to investigate all this next.

>> you will find there is nothing there i have no regrets i have done what the lawyers told me to do that is what we are doing.

shannon: president biden brushing up concerns how he handled the discovery enclosure classified documents from the obama administration now maybe back in his senate career. white house correspondent former state department spokesperson and former chief of staff and fox news analyst. welcome to the panel if there is only anything to discuss. he says there is no there there but there is another batch given the discovery the fifth batch and the doj and fbi agents. saying i have no regrets he shrugged off the entire matter as akin to finding a borrowed hammer from 2017 and the garage sense it is gross mishandling you want to not have a negligent attitude toward the discovery of highly classified material.

>> he has deep regrets. especially coming out so forcefully saying that we will not find anything more and we are down done with only a handful of documents nothing to see. he has a treasure trove of documents and now the doj is finding all of it the biggest issue is the access piece. we know with the mar-a-lago raid the access was limited but it is in a certain office space we don't know who has access. that is the biggest question going forward. shannon: that opened up he says what have you done? but that democratic exasperation for squandering advantage on the mar-a-lago story and muddying what have been the best chance to convict on federal charges. >> now we know there were more

documents because biden's personal attorneys divided on —- invited the department of justice in. there were six last night they are fully cooperating. the team says we are inviting them in that is in stark contrast to trump who repeatedly lied to the federal government saying he declassify them and they were his. we had no idea who had access at mar-a-lago because we know there were security concerns there of course i would talk about this on "fox news sunday" as a democrat but the distinction between how the team is handled inviting in doj and fully cooperating looking into whatever they can compared to the trump team which at every single turn really pushed back and allied to the fbi and the archives at the end of the day the distinction is fair. shannon: with that distinction of the reporting that there were conversations with the biden team and doj we will let

you investigate. now we let you come in. so those conversations make people have the perception it's a different standard. >> you have private and personal lawyers to discover that cash. today have security clearance? we don't have full clarity yet. years ago i remember seeing dean martin walk out on stage saying how to all these people get in my room? that is joe biden every time. how did this document get here? you placed it there or someone near you did. we need to know why and how if you look at the biden center, the first discovery is particularly disturbing because they were mingled in amongst personal files. even in envelopes marked personal files. why? who put them there? when you overlay the timetable of the documents discovered and what was happening in joe

biden's life, it doesn't want —- it does track with the iran nuclear deal the chinese natural gas deal in the hunter biden deal through the laptop. terms of quest on —- questions need exploration but i am not quite certain that we have discovered the last biden classified documents just yet. shannon: and they have said there isn't another discovery but then there was. >> try to get their hands on the documents you don't know exactly what. trying to get them to answer questions and they say they have heard crickets despite the public response in our officials are telling me they are still deciding how they want to respond to these request for communication. as far as president biden goes

those documents we don't know how many back to the time and u.s. senate is at odds with the statement from the white house that he has handled the classified information in an appropriate manner and taking it seriously bringing scrutiny on that. shannon: now it is the white house strategy to say republicans are crazy and will crash the economy. the hill has the headline the gop risks overplays their hand pressing for big spending cuts there is a real chance to get overplay the and blame for cascading effects of the approach the scenario defaulting on obligations. >> there will be a negotiation. democrats thing we have a clean that ceiling but there is zero chance of that happening. i assume the senate will be a part of the discussion and

it's not unprecedented i remember doing this with joe biden with the budget control act allow history and precedent but house republicans need to do what unites them to get to yes this is not a negotiable outcome it's as far down the road on the conservative side to get that conference together. >> they are playing the hardliners administration old do you think that departure will change with that non- negotiation negotiation? >> i don't think the strategy will change. republicans in congress not demanding any spending cuts they are demanding now. and generally when the democrats are in the white house but under president biden record unemployment and 11 million jobs created in

small business applications have been put in and now contract that with republicans taking over cutting medicare and social security and get the credit rating downgraded i think the biden white house feels very confident if you take those two messages to the american people they come out on the winning and policy and economically and politically. >> i want to get your comment the supreme court is investigating for quite some time but we have no answers on who it is. >> and the question is why? the fbi should have been brought in. the investigator was the marshall of the court. they don't have the investigatory power to seize records and obligate some of those that many clerks have

already left in the tenure has ended and have done we didn't get testimony and records from some of them. i don't think we'll ever know who the leaker is that we should know the justices and families are very worried and the families have not stopped. >> they are at their homes on a weekly basis. up next returning to the end of row v wade but legal battles are continuing to sprawl all across the states in a debate over access to abortion. we sit down with pro-choice and pro-life movements here together in one of the most contentious issues. we will be right back.

shannon: in 1973 that supreme court ruled in row v wade the 1h

amendment that women had a right to abortion. backing one of the most hard-fought political and legal battles of the last half-c half-century. the last summer making a ruling the high court did overturn roe v wade but now it's just a new battle a new friends we will sit down with the most prominent advocates in both the pro-life and pro-choice movement to discuss the new paradigm the first advocacy on both sides seven months after the end of row v wade. with a party atmosphere outside of the supreme court on friday as demonstrators mark the 50th walk march for life. >> this is different we have overturned roe v wade with the mississippi dobbs case. >> starting in the seventies as a protest against roe v wade. this year a victory lap after celebrating the end of v wade.

>> did you ever thank you would see the day to be the law of the land? >> there is always hope. but i think nobody could believe it. >> the culture is moving in our direction we are not the only ones. there are so many people here. >> even as the pro-life movement since overturn from the dobbs decision the legal rules are more unsettled. now the abortion question is up to date. >> those in the pro-life movement has worked for over 40 years. >> when dozen states band all abortions immediately many saying that they save lives. but many did the reverse passing laws to ensure women have greater abortion access

voters also weighed in as midterms had a record number of questions and turning out in huge numbers rejecting a lot to ban access. >> and overwhelming majority believe a women's right to make private medical decisions should rest with her and not with politicians. >> fundraising for both sides exploded was state wide race is seen as critical as a judicial race is getting headlines because of the existing unenforced abortion ban from 1849 could reach the state's highest court. the biden administration wrapped up federal protection with the executive order preemptively pushing back on approving federal abortion medication are moving to the states where it is.

the state supreme court struck down the six week abortion ban in january and pushing congress to push the original president and to law. >> patient codify row v wade once and for all. >> if the republicans get their way with the national then, the president has warned before the end of row v wade cost republicans politically. voter analysis in november found 62 percent favorite a national law guaranteeing access to abortion and 38 percent oppose. >> this was different with the us capital and supreme court organizers say the shifting focus of the legal battle at the high court from capitol hill. >> would also acknowledge a federal been may never happen

but the pressure to help mothers and children after pregnancy that they have been doing that then ramped up at the end of row v wade. >> children will now come into the world that does not fit in their life or they are not prepared for. >> we have to step up our game with the whole adoption system in supporting women who are in these situations if they don't have the money or resources to have these children. we cannot tell the world we want women to have children in and not give them the resources. ceo and president of concerned women for america, thank you for coming. it is fair to say you are knighted in the dignity of women to care for them and a moment they may not have foreseen coming into their lives. thank you for the conversation. that this is something the white house finds alarming.

but he said never before has the court taken away a right so fundamental to american across the nation at risk. so it says you're actually hurting women. >> remember the pro-life movement starting with susan b and the and elizabeth cady stanton that the revolution called it child murder and women like those saying that the abortion is the ultimate exploitation of women and now the pro-life women is led by those women in the country working to protect women and their children from the very beginning. marching to the capital and advocated the state capitals of those who were elected with

the dignity of human life there are two people into lives at stake in this question. we want to love them though there was a poll that just came down that said 90 percent of people want to protect the babies and their mothers. people recognize this is a lie it was not settle because people knew in their hearts it was a baby at stake. now we have the state fights talking about the administration has taken steps has more access. that now this headline that retail pharmacies support major chains could offer abortion pills in the us under regulatory change made by the fda. available through the mail and no prohibition traveling across state lines was there a problem with access? >> yes. for sure there was even when it was on the books. but what we see now is

millions and millions of americans particularly women waking up after roe v wade was overturned to the idea many are taken for granted that the decision is so fundamental and personal and life-changing to terminate a pregnancy or carry that two-term is now not their own decision that can be made by politicians and not be made by the person themselves with their family and doctor and their god biden said determined by the state legislature or their governors. that's why we have seen a wave of activism that kentucky and kansas where those ballot initiatives people say we want to ensure reproductive care access and make sure

reproductive care including abortion is still available and it's up to them to decide to terminate a pregnancy. >> there were ballot initiatives and how people who voted on this i remember talking in 2016 when the president got into the primary. they were sure what he would be you call them the most pro-life president in history. then after the midterms did not go as well as expected he said it wasn't my fault that the republicans did not live up to the expectations but it was the abortion issue poorly handled by many republicans that lost large numbers of voters. so what is your argument that it hurt? >> the pro-life movement is grateful to the president he appointed three justices that work very hard to get confirmed.

i even called him after the overturn to think him for that but to disagree what we saw happen was republicans live listening to the consultant class running away from the abortion issue only told to talk about inflation and joe biden and outspent 35 / one spending $391 million on ads to the $11 million. the other side is extreme then the other side that abortion should be legal all paid for by the taxpayer at any time or any reason. that is not the position of the american people. and we are happy to advocate for that position to go state-by-state and that's the next step in the next days. >> there are things happening in capitol hill and the national band before the house

is voted on in control of the gop to vote on a resolution to condemn the tax and vitamin c violent pregnancy over more than 200 voted yes also a bill calling for medical care for a baby that survived in the attempted abortion. why vote no on those measures? >> i haven't seen the particulars of those bills so all activists who has been a threat subject of endangered to those who are trying to facilitate abortion care. the one piece of legislation i find interesting is the respect for marriage act that passed with bipartisan support. with the overturning of roe v wade other people's but was deeply indebted and constitutional policies of equality and liberty like the

right to choose abortion including marriage equality for lgbtq americans and interracial couples those can be on the chopping block and that is why the legislation protects the marriage equality we have come to expect from our constitutional rights into law. we are seeing a great awakening that is the supreme court will not recognize the full spectrum that is supposed to be guaranteed with the congressional enactments like i just talked about so that we the people are coming back to say we need equal citizenship stature and as people who can make fundamental decisions about her own bodies and their own lives.

>> so the issue is not over and thank you for having that conversation today. former president trump may face opposition for a familiar face in the third white house period and then to investigate the ticketmaster meltdown that left all of taylor swift's fans let down.

>> a lot has changed if i am this passion and determined why not me? shannon: ambassador haley that she may challenge her old boss for the 2024 republican nomination so i am itching.

>> it is early. i feel like we are already there is never over we are already in the next election. >> it is still january and hearing from republicans they feel they are pretty on —- plenty of time with the same for democrats we haven't seen joe biden get in the race he is expected to run for reelection and the fact he directed his own 2024 primary schedule is seen as indication he's planning to run for reelection and next the democrats will gather together to talk about what to do over the state of new hampshire. governors in the republican governor of new hampshire says they will go first and no matter what they will have the first primary in the nation. >> here are a few more headlines. obstacles to reorder the primary calendar talk about

the new york democrats put biden on blast. so what does this say about the current presidents power and ability to call the shots. >> i married into a new hampshire family said to be very careful. [laughter] this is tricky. but democrats have realized for some time the primary calendar needs to better represent the country to be better diverse and better represent the electorate those in iowa we know the caucus was not run well for a number of reasons and there had to be changes i love the fact new hampshire voters are investing in the process early and they really get to ask some questions and what new hampshire to still be the front of the calendar it is in the state law to be first in the nation that south carolina better represents the full

picture of the electorate. the new hampshire conversation is interesting. and with my in-laws i have to say they should always be first. [laughter] >> you can't do anything with the in-laws. keep the peace. [laughter] spirit the president is setting things up that was a turning point. that is what propelled him to the presidency but they don't want to go along yet. >> that you finish fifth that wasn't just that it was real bad and his performance in 2020 so i am not surprised they will try to reorder things nikki haley would like to lead the way that there is a rich history of new hampshire resistant right to the very end and was state law not much we can do. >> it feels like people trying to rig the game there is a first in the nation and new hampshire is it with retail

politics and to demand a certain something from candidates and then they talk back. it is a great training ground. sorry but if biden feels he's not up to the task then he should not run for president if you can survive new hampshire then you can reach south carolina and the rest of the primaries changing the rules early because you like the way the game may play out. shannon: how many times have we all then to pizza kitchen in iowa? [laughter] if you have been to iowa you get it. now marie you are back. so now that meltdown and else the issue again america's ticketing industry remains painfully obvious hundreds of thousands of fans hoping to purchase tickets for the new

tour. >> that's like amy klobuchar going by the teeth. it is bigger than taylor swift and ticket master is a monopoly i tried to get earthworks tickets for vegas but it has been long overdue for someone to have regulatory action and investigation is something americans care about they don't always pay attention to the debt ceiling which is important i wish they did but at the end of the day what drives you crazy? many will say ticketmaster. >> i don't even try to go to the initial marketplace for the ticket automatically are thrown to the secondary market. >> it only to taylor swift and democrats and republicans.

[laughter] the white house says they don't see much more but the president can do on this issue but administration officials say they do expect additional action on junk fees that are the service fees that in this case you pay to go to an event like this that senator klobuchar is also looking into and what americans are paying attention to who thought we can find an airline worse than southwest? ticketmaster and live nation are merging. so the policing running the game in the front and the back of the house and that deserve scrutiny on both sides of the aisle ag agree. shannon: word this week alec baldwin will face involuntary manslaughter charges. he denied he pulled the

trigger and is responsible that prosecutors feel otherwise. he is baffled that he is charged not the gun. according to have everyone is to blame for the shooting except himself. but this has all kinds to it a woman lost her life yet it's a very prominent celebrity. >> it is a tragedy with the loss of life. i think baldwin would not be in this trouble had he just kept his mouth shut. the perfect example of a celebrity trying to justify himself in the court of public opinion not knowing ultimately down the road everything he said with all of these interviews is used and admissible as criminal charges. that is his problem and why he is in hot water. >> we spoke to those who lead action franchises if they say

cold gun you expect there is nothing in the chamber. that is what he was assured i thank you can hold the actor culpable. but the one charge of manslaughter might apply to him as a producer because there have protocols were shoddy cox person was the same person and no gun should have been there. shannon: saying goodbye to amedi beloved never of our family here fox.

shannon: difficult news a treasured member of the fox news family passed away this week. dying following a heart attack the senior vice president of news and politics. for decades a guiding force. he started as a writer when fox news launched in 1986. allen worked his way up to the ranks a diligent perfectionist who became indispensable. part of every major news story and every election for decades meaning he had a hand of how fox ever the biggest stories affecting your world. i will always remember with a smile on his face was 47 years old. survived by his wife rachel was his high school sweetheart and prom date and two children 17 -year-old then and 13 -year-old daughter olivia. i am so very proud of them. as my colleagues said this week he made all of us better and will be remembered in the service today in new jersey we are wishing comfort to his

family and friends and to everyone who feels his loss. that is it for today thank you for joining us. im shannon bream me will see you next "fox news sunday". steve: breaking tonight a total show at the white house looking at any of the biting classified documents if you find them let them know. remember how the biden people in the immediate benefits wanting the adults back in the room they should know how to govern what a joke. the clowns are back in the circus. here's what i want to know about the document fiasco.

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