♪ ♪ >> emily: hello, everyone this is "outnumbered" and i am emily compagno here with harris faulkner and also joining us emily campagno, mollie hemingway, lili gil valletta, marc thiessen. we begin with political legal liability the president's handling of classified documents could have on his plans as the growing scandal raises more unanswered questions. there have been six or seven

discoveries in different locations but we still don't know who removed those documents in the first place. what exactly was in them? where they were cut before they ended up in delaware and the penn biden center and went on why they were taken and how did the president remove these documents exactly? our own peter doocy try to get some answers at the white house press briefing, watch. >> is president biden involved up in a cover? >> the president has been clear that he takes this very seriously. that is a question that everybody left out. interesting question to ask, but any other underlying questions that you may have, i would refer you to my colleagues, the white house counsel. i will continue to be consistent and refer you to any questions that you have there. >> emily: now, even some democrats are raising questions about the white house was transparency on the issue or lack thereof. they fear this could turn into a

major problem for the party 2024. the white house downplaying concerns when pressed on potential impact yesterday. watch. >> president biden still planning to run for reelection in 2024? >> i will repeat what the president said after midterm election, he intends to run. >> is there a precedent for running for president as fbi agent to go through your sock drawer? >> he will deliver to the american people. that is his focus. that is what he has been focusing on the last two years. nothing is going to change that. speak to mollie, commences scandal keeps growing and as the questions keep growing, it seems that we learn less and less abos americans need. >> mollie: the biden administration keeps talking how transparent they are but they are not transparent at all. we don't understand why people were looking for documents in the first place. it was that related to the u.s. attorney investigating the biden

family business out of delaware? we don't know what these documents are exactly. it will never be handling classified documents this way, but i think what we really understand, this is probably related to the biden family business where you trade on the bible family name, getting money from foreign oligarchs, the chinese communist party, access to joe biden, and that is why it is a national security problem more than just a paper dispute. >> emily: harris, the normal family business, have we grown accustomed to the washington swamp and grown accustomed to that being the biden family business? so now, just another day that ends in why? >> harris: look, the biden family business, we don't know what it is yet because a lot of the biden family papers were all over the place. none of them belong to the biden family. we don't really know as mollie has just said, what is truly in those papers. the university of delaware has

1,850 boxes of documents. are any of those classified? why haven't the doj and the fbi mobilized on them? oh, i forgot, marc, you have to be invited now if you are the fbi to the president of the united states like some kind of scone tea party. but it's not! in fact, you won't get to eat anything but crow depending on what they find. so i really want to know now who is moving next on delaware? how come everything is in delaware? well we do know. you have books being written. there are reasons why a former vice president and senator might have wanted to take papers. the problem is, they didn't belong to them. and certainly a senator. they didn't belong to him. they signed a document and said, it wouldn't take them out of a skiff and that is what senators do. maybe i shouldn't assume he signed it. >> emily: that is a great emphasis and that is why i love

you, harris. so marc lets at that scene harris is talking about. the university says, we have 1850 boxes of documents from biden's time as it's in or over 15 years ago. we will not release it until two years after officially resigned for public service and remember during allegations of sexual harassment candidacy for harassment a clamor to release documents and many people said there might be relevance in those documents but now the g.o.p. wants them, the white house has released a statement only for legitimate concerns will he release anything or cooperate let alone mentioning the university's position but the the point remains no power like this subpoena power. >> that is true in the fbi with the delaware's commission to go through those boxes. here is the thing, the presidents defenders have been going pain sticks to explain the difference between his case and speed 16's case.

i got something for you joe biden's been doing this 15 years or more which is different than donald trump spared when these documents found at the penn biden center at his home they try to blame the staff, his executive assistant and throw her under the bus and say, maybe she is the one who did this and all the rest of it. but now, we found documents from the senate tenure. kathy didn't work for him in the senate. he had a completely different staff. what this shows is it is not a step from but joe biden problem. he's been doing this for decades and came to the senate in 1972. and you look through 1,800 boxes in 1970 dude you might have documents from the cold war. >> harris: i know you are kind of not kidding. [laughter] >> emily: kathy chung was installed after hunter. right? so it shows what tangled webs we weave. the americans might not find these answers unless these investigations play out with our

text dollars. >> talk about the tax layer and the people we are responsible to is the american people. this is disrespectful and so many caps in the story, is it a raid, search or invitation? and it is based on who the character of the personality or the last name is. >> harris: yes. >> lili: it shouldn't. it should not. because the rules apply to us all equally. and we deserve better as americans. i want to know on both sides of the aisle, what is the story and what is missing with 150 boxes, right? at the same time, not taking action with transparency at this moment, it will continue to erode what we already know is an issue, which is people's trust of the institutions, of the democracy that makes this country the great country that it is supposed to be. so, i think it is disrespectful without knowing the full content of it all. i want to go back as far as we

can go because we need to leak the story and fill the gaps. >> emily: i agree americans deserve better. i don't know if i great -- i agree everybody should be treated equally but last names have an impact. mollie come i think we are hearing two different things ouf washington. what are your thoughts only faction that argues, they are standing by biden. he will be their man in 2024. some argue, no, no, no, this is them link them out to dry and chalk it up to not running in 2024. it is all about the classified documents. what say you and what is your prediction? >> mollie: d.c. says they are trying to go after biden to remove him. i don't think that is showing what we are seeing how the department of justice is handling things. they have bent over backwards to be kind to him pure they were allowing that story to be kept secret for months. there was a complete deviation how they treated trump very immature and very unprofessional ratings of former presidents

house where the document dispute versus how gentle and careful they are. i basically think it is kind of cute how we act like problems with democrats or electoral problems. they are only electoral problems if the democratic machine decides it to be electoral problems. >> emily: i love that. what do you make of the argument "new york times" may just bake the refusal for the white house to be transparent was the attorneys the friction between transparency and cooperation is that of attorneys versus a p.r. campaign versus the fact that american pay that salary and deserve the transparency of our executive branch? >> marc: it is blocked by joe biden's own words. i have no regrets. actually it is there and there and there with class of high documents and all places. and with the president should be saying is look, classified documents in a time classified documents are not in a secure place, a mistake has gone wrong and i want to get to the bottom of what is happening. no regrets, he did nothing wrong. everybody knows he did something

wrong, including democrats. he will regret those words. >> e>> lili: elan before the documents came about, there is already 70% of democrats that didn't want president biden to run again. this is just confirmation of that. >> harris: i wonder how many had access to classified documents. [laughter] all right, so u.s. you asked a great question, lili, and it is both sides of the aisle that we have to ask what happens at the end of serving that you can take classified documents or maybe during this time served. we are learning for the first time that former vice president mike pence has discovered classified documents at his home in indiana. vice president pence informed congress on tuesday of this week, which would be yesterday. or last week, excuse me, that he discovered documents bearing classified markings in his

carmel, indiana, home on januars vice president. following the revelations that classified documents from president biden's tenure as vice president were found, the penn biden center think tank and his home in wilmington, delaware. the vice president's team conducted searches of mike pence indiana home and advocate group advancing american freedom office. so, marc come i will come to you first as i'm going through. two letter sent to the national archives have been january 18th and january 22nd. foxnews.com digital has obtained this document. let me click on it here. dear miss mcclure, vice president's designated representative to the national archives are a right to request your assistance with collecting and transferring to the custody of national archives and additional set of vice presidential records.

the additional records appear to be a small number of documents bearing classified markings that were inadvertently boxed and transported to the personal home of the former vp at the end of e last administration. mike pence was unaware of the existence of senate bill mike sensitive, classified documents at his personal residence. vice president pence understands the high importance of protecting classified information and stands ready and willing to cooperate fully with the national archives and any appropriate inquiry, marc. >> marc: and i'm sure what happened when he heard the news about vice president biden having documents -- >> harris: that is what it says. >> marc: he immediately ordered his staff to see if there was anything and there was. we don't know if biden had ts sci documents, top-secret level of seriousness. those are the things you cannot easily transfer, you know,

confidential documents are historic. so, we don't know what that is. but i think it is great he is responsible to check that. it seems like we have a broader problem. >> harris: but i think -- >> marc: bipartisan and handling classified information. >> harris: we have known that and former president obama, mollie, changed what it meant, can you talk about that? there was a change that woman made about who can declassify and document so on and so forth. that was during hillary clinton. >> right before he left office he changed rules of classification as well. we have multiple issues here, when so many classified documents going around that there are i bet mike pence will not even be the last person who was vice president or president to make this kind of announcement. we do need transparency. we can't help you might have self-governance without transparency. this type of dispute is common even what biden is going through a somewhat common.

president obama had paperwork disputes with the national archives that are ongoing. what really made this whole thing different is when the national archives and the department of justice took a fairly common paperwork disputes mow with a former president, when they despise, and they turned it into this big, crazy thing of radiant the home. now all of a sudden, they were being wasted by their own good tour when they have to deal with their artifacts with every former president. >> harris: real quickly. emily i want to come to you to read this document via fox news digital and we thank him for great reporting as always. following press reports of classified documents at the personal home of president biden out of the abundance of caution, which is what you said marc thiessen come on monday january 16, vice president pence engaged outside of counsel with experience in handling classified documents to review records stored in his personal home. emily, the wording of this is so

specific and so spectacularly different than what we have heard from biden. so, i do want to know if any of them have adherence is? what we don't know what from biden, what pass did his attorneys have with handling classified documents? from mike pence we get that but biden i don't know that we have. >> emily: it is my understanding of the doj explicitly approve the handling by the attorneys to do so. i note another remarkable distinction between both, which is that on january 19th, the doj requested possession of the documents from the ones found in vice president pence's home. so, that is one day later, the doj says, get a hold of that. how many days -- exactly. >> months. >> emily: weeks and weeks and weeks, they were allowed to stand that messy pile in the garage in the study in delaware. it is a remarkable distinction . i wonder what else we will learn

that the parchment distinction. >> marc: the difference between mike pence's statement and joe biden statement, i have no regrets, you know. he took it seriously and he went and engage counsel to do this, cooperated with the justice department. joe biden says, "nothing wrong with what i did." >> harris: talk about the politics and play there. you have a man about to give his state of the union -- i don't know how this doesn't come up, but anyway, maybe he will try to do it and bring up vice president pence. and everybody can read for themselves how differently they were handled. but then, you've got the announcement of what he wants to do in 2024. now, it is already coming from the left white house briefing. he has always said he intends to run. not supposed to be the declaration right there so the president can skip it? >> marc: i think here is the thing, after the election, he actually turned in unfortunately

the best performance of the president of first-term election since jfk except for george w. bush after 9/11. everyone was expecting a disaster so they were getting ready to push them back. he did so much better and that got grounded to a halt. now, with us going out some of those gears might start moving again. a little bit. this becomes a big scandal and people who wanted to push him out and get a real liberal and there. and not even going to pretend to be a moderate, that might happen. >> harris: the breaking news this hour with vice president pence finding through his attorneys outside of counsel on those who were, in his words and his statement, "experienced handling classified documents have found in his santa ana home documents as well." they will go forward and turn those over to the national archives and we will continue to cover the news as it breaks. wherever it breaks, the next place they choose or don't choose to search for the current

president biden, which is found classified documents in several locations. okay. >> harris: what we are watching his video downtown atlanta, georgia, over the weekend. writers unleashed chaos and violence. now, we are learning many of the terrorist suspects as they are now deemed arrested and charged for the violent acts are children have quite pampered privilege from out-of-state. rioters set a police car on fire and threw explosives at buildings. if it almost had drumbeat. which is really sad because you get hit in the head with one of those, it will kill you. and under siege for more than a year because of something called

stop cops city. it is a movement to shut down proposed training site for law enforcement and first responders where you can see why they are needed. but last week, it got worse. an activist who came in from florida shot and severely injured a georgia state patrol officer in the so-called "autonomous zone." the police returned fire killing that man appeared about like that activist, many of the violent protesters did not come from atlanta. 5 of 6 have been arrested out-of-state and three of them are even granting in their mug shots after vandalizing businesses and property and one of them frances carroll, he is the son of a yacht sailing multimillionaire family from maine. he was originally out on bail for a domestic terrorism charge already from a first few weeks ago, lee. >> mollie: well, i mean, these are quite crazy scenes to see in atlanta this weekend.

it is also, yes, these people have been charged. we will see if they were treated seriously and actually convicted. we saw in the summer riots of 2020, that there were a few arrests for domestic terrorism type of activities. they were frequently let go. there was a different prosecutorial approach with these types of antifa rioters. we might remember, besieged, the white house, federal courthouse was, burned down police precincts and destroyed national monuments and when after statues, destroyed people's property with thorson and response to the regime in the u.s. was to fund the groups thao support the movement. so, when you pay for things and your finance things and you don't punish people, you get more of it. it is not totally surprising we are seeing this in atlanta. >> harris: emily, what is confusing to me and thank you for not calling it the summer of love but the summer of writing purity but when you look at how different a place of

protester, peaceful protester would be after the death of george floyd or maybe they feel strongly about "stop cops city" or whatever the issue is look at the people that set everything on fire and put first responders and police officers in harm's way with all of the violence breaking out. what does the law say about that? i mean, why didn't we see more arrests in 2020? it is definitely different and georgia because the officials are going after them. >> it is the enforcement and the elected officials and the elected district attorneys that abdicated their responsibilities to enforce those laws that are very clear what the penalties are if you decide to burn down the federal building and put police officers in harm's way. i really appreciate you pointed out the financing, the tremendous backing them in this. let me just remind everyone, for example, what cbs said when they said many on the left reporting the rhetoric about antifa is greatly exaggerated.

let's have an organized movement but just an idea. antifa is a loose affiliation and local activist scattered across the u.s. and a few other countries. do we call the travel to atlanta there that resulted in six domestic terrorism charges loosed there loose activist? antifa, antifascist handbook, despite the media put trail meaning us of a deranged bloodthirsty antifa, the vast majority involve no physical violence whatsoever, he said. the tactics are mostly online. do you call shooting a police officer in the stomach, burning town buildings, burning down cop cars? i just wonder also, is catherine clark going to condemn antifa or the component to that with the violence of the protest? she described it as the joy and pain of parenting. finally, dnc advisor, he called the republican party a domestic terrorist cell operating in america. is he going to acknowledge this

domestic terrorism charges that are playing out in atlanta? there is not enough time in the show for me to illustrate the hypocrisy coming out of the left and mainstream media that flies in the face of this violent video. and those livelihood and small business owners are suffering every day. >> harris: so true. >> lili: this is when it hurts me. people coming outside of a city that happens to be majority minority. 40% or so of police officers in atlanta are minorities. so you say you are advocating for social justice or equity, representing the voices of health minorities. but you are not. what you are actually doing is hurting the very home of those you claim to be representing in the fight for justice. it is contradictory. it is affecting the small businesses owned by the people you're supposed to be protecting in the police type of narrative. these actions are showing what we need is actually more police. >> harris: this is what you

get, marc, when you talk about critical race theory in things where the theory is that people of color are always victims. so, now you have these predominantly privileged people coming in from states that are not as culturally and racially rich wherever these people are living come apparently, because they think we need saving. so they go to atlanta, georgia, to mix it up, i guess, to say people and set things on fire so our voices as people of color can be amplified. that is the height of local vandalism. >> marc: 100% pure these are followers of radical ideology. one of the quotes was that you mention more and more ideology than organization. you can say the same thing about al qaeda. these are domestic terrorists. they are moral equivalent of neo-nazis, domestic terrorist and everybody is concerned about, domestic terrorists who advance an ideology that killed millions of people in the 20th century.

they are in the old nonnomadic marxist that don't accept liberal democracy and they are committing violence and terrorin the name of radical ideology. >> harris: i wish they would get some jobs. they don't need him. all right, here we go here and we will get to illegal immigration coverage now, four people bus to new york city from texas arrested in a massive shoplifting bus as the border crisis, biden fed is continues to spiral out of control on his watch. that is next. ♪ ♪

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earlier this month in a big shoplifting bust. the police say they sold over $12,000 in merchandise from a macy's at a mall on long island in the cup the crew at a traffic stop or using bogus plates on a bmw. according to the police, two suspects listed in manhattan hotel as they are addressed, market, there was a lot of questions and frustration taxpayers in new york city, especially one where they see the illegal being houston upscale hotels around times square being treated much better than the homeless for the incarcerated, both of whom those groups are citizens. >> marc: all true, but this is why the governors in the places like texas and arizona bus the migrants to new york, washington and chicago. the biggest problem we have in politics, nothing gets solved is because the elites in the cities of new york and washington never feel the impact of policies they

impose in the calamities they impose on the rest of the country so what these governors have done is giving new york and washington a taste and eagle pass. the difference in eagle pass, lest i checked eagle pass was not declared a sanctuary city but new york did. if you want these policies to change or unhappy with all of these things, both the leaders and you're an old enough remember when new yorkers we had a republican mayor to cling to step up. if unhappy what is happening in your city, do something about it. >> emily: i certainly tried but my vote didn't count this election. harris, what does for me as well the proprietors and owners who talked about how the food that they served was all going to waste who talked about and showed photos of destruction in these hotels that they had to fit the bill for. on that they reported an illegal immigrant got into an altercation, physical assault of a security guard there pure drug use, more and more and more pure these are not just about fitting a bill the extra cost and extra

stress that the federal government. >> harris: well, and it is dangerous what you described. these men, you don't think they got cemented on their own yesterday. were they criminals in their previous countries? look, the drug cartels are among us right now. that jailbreak was real. they went north. so, the cash they can get from unloading these goods as they were going to the cartel, are we looking at some sort of cartel hub that can break open in our country? we better make sure that we fund the police. we better make sure that that 19% or 20% that has always been americans who serve this country wanted to continue to serve inside the country as civilians, we better hope those men and women still want to be a part of the police force after serving in the military. we are going to need their expertise and protection. thank you, by the way, to them to them. >> emily: exactly. whatever record was broken

recently, the terror watch list made at the southern border, cannot accounting for 1.2 million cutaways with terrorist list numbers. the numbers, are frightening and they keep growing. >> mollie: this is what happens when you don't have a southern border and don't care about national sovereignty. president biden was clear during the campaign before keith won collection and a one he basically tore down every single thing that we have done to cobbled together some kind of southern border. nothing happening is surprising and the fact republicans and democrats are not taking this seriously also creates the problem. you are absolutely right we consider the border to the cartels and just last week in my hometown, california, a cartel style killing probably related to drugs. this really does change the way things are happening. you do not want to import from mexico the type of justice system they have there where cartels are completely at controlling what happens. >> emily: that killing was a young mother come april

execution of a young mother and her baby. >> lili: malika my love what you are saying. it is on both sides of the aisles. republicans and democrats need to make this a crisis, humanitarian crisis, immigration crisis, selling crisis. >> harris: you don't think they've done that question marks before we need to come together and have conversations going forward. once i does not want to call it a crisis and as long as we keep pointing fingers at each other, it will never be the form. remember back in the day a version of that something that gets us to solutions but i do love, marc, i do live in texas and it's hot in texas, it cost $850 million a year for texas to care for migrants at the rest of the country is getting a taste of it. the political thing that i often call on error, gets hit, but nothing gets solved. and the cost factor now, you feel it when it gets to your

town. it sounds nice to be welcoming, but when it hits your bottom line in your streets, it feels a little bit different. >> harris: but democrats have been talking, right? you have henry cuellar. you have democrats -- those in the most powerful positions don't want to listen. it has been republicans making the decisions, the hard decisions to put up containers, to build a wall, to try to finish off what they can to stem that tide. no more words. we need action now. >> mollie: republicans have been doing it for years. florida governor ron desantis defending his state's rejection of ap course that he says has a political agenda and pushes things like woke indoctrination. that is next. ♪ ♪ dollars every month, pay off the balances on your high-rate cards with a lower rate va home loan from newday usa

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♪ ♪ >> harris: florida governor ron desantis pushing back against the white house after ripped his state for banning a new african american

history course. here is what the white house press secretary said about the move last week. >> this is incomprehensible that to see that this is what this ban or this block to be more specific, that desantis has put forward. if you think about the study of black americans, that is what he wants to block. >> harris: but governor desantis says, that is not the case. >> we have guidelines and standards in florida who were do we want education, not indoctrination. this course on black history, what is one of the lessons about? queer theory. who would say an important part of black history is queer theory? that is somebody pushing an agenda on our kids. when they look to see there is stuff about intersectionality, polishing prisons, that is a political agenda appearance but went all right, you read that and you know that he's got a

point there. this is supposed to be an advanced course. who does that flex four, the colleges now? >> lili: these implants placed courses and i have an advanced course designed to prepare you for college. what has happened is a result, they have putting all sorts of what you see in colleges left-wing ideology into the coursework in a completely inappropriate way. florida law says when teaching african american history you need to teach about slavery, you need to teach about emancipation. if you need to teach about jim crow and discrimination. that is not what this is about. this is not about teaching peer they have to teach that. this is about like what the governor said whether you should have these types of indoctrination about marxist theory. they are in the ap classes and parents should be guarded against it and think about whether to do it or take different tests. governor desantis should be praised and the other republicans should be praised but every republican governor should be doing this to protect

children from some of the worst racist and hateful ideology coming through. >> harris: lili, why is this happening now? >> lili: the support of inclusion, dni awakening by the way at the core of my business and what i do for a living, but this is not it. you want to show people the facts so you can make informed decisions and be shown, especially as children what to think based on the fact and not how to think. it is where it is a very gray line. we absolutely want to honor the contributions and celebrate the tapestry of america, which includes black history in every facet from music and entertainment, history, politics, business spirit but this is not that. here is the danger, headlines because nobody reads these things, you go through and say desantis is banning african american studies. you stop there. don't say gay act and things like that. >> harris: that is not true. >> lili: so you have to

re-inform parents, absolutely, mollie, read between the lines. what is that about not celebrating, eliminate the contributions of african americans when clearly it is not meant other things that are political ideologies that will confuse kids in an era where they are already confused. >> harris: you know what, let's put the confusion to the side. can we prepare them for the future, marc? the actual skills that will make them winners on a global playing field? >> marc: you hit the nail on the head. the difference between treating critical race theory in college and grade school. >> harris: 100% pure and >> marc: in grade school for students don't have the context of history and have a broader industry, context of all of thek so what they try to do by pushie children to believe that america is systemic racist country so that they can later indoctrinate them in college with these ideologies. so, governor desantis and

others say, "we will not teach this stuff in grade school." when you go to college, for example we don't teach communism but you do in college. you do if you are studying that. so what is happening, they are taking an ap course, which is a college level course for high school students and using it as a funnel to drive all these ideologies into the grade school spirit that is why in december, desantis is doing a good job. we went did they ask the parents? they never do! >> mollie: when i went to public high school in california ap bio and things that prepared people for the workforce to hele america better. i love "the new york post" editorial in cozumel, no one, no american is actually advocating to extinguish history are not address or teach it fully. and that is why i have an issue with karine jean-pierre's head and her talking points and essentially called the governor a racist. a love that they said, the problem is the editorial went

curriculum used as ideological weapon to a distorted one-sided worldview. here they say florida has the college board dead to race. a man and bravo to desantis. >> harris: i love what you said about parents. if you prepare your child commit is harder to indoctrinate them. >> emily: they have armor. >> harris: coming up, hide your pickup trucks and video game consoles. no, actually we want to appear at the woke mob is coming for you and all that stuff you like to drive and play with. the latest on the list of things the left says is no good. i'm sorry, i can't hear them, what are they saying? ♪ ♪ supply fuel for immune cells and sustain tissue health. ensure with twenty-five vitamins and minerals, and ensure complete

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>> a brand-new document discovered this time from another former vice president? brand-new reaction coming up as the white house blaming media grandstanding for biden's growing scandal. we will hear the latest from the press secretary karine jean-pierre when she takes questions at the briefing next hour. plus, jonathan morris a growing level of animosity towards churches in this country.

why a two mic attacks the catholic faith at an alarming rate. the latest in ukraine with mike pompeo and whether he sees biden scandal it threat to the national security. come join with john roberts and me as "america reports" at the top of the hour. >> mollie: will come back up. it is safe from overly critical eyes of the left. axios is coming for your pickup truck with an entire right up why modern pickup trucks are bad. next video game xbox announcing the first carbon aware console. mollie, you live in d.c. and the auto show and while there was so much emphasis, of course ebs all the crowds were around ford raptor x, and the exotic for rory, in orlando and classic cars like i drive. at the end of the day come it doesn't matter what the what companies are trying to push because americans, i, at least l today we know what they want

to buy. >> mollie: america was built on trucks. the truck spilled everything that matters in this country. it is not surprising the left wants to take them away, take away gas stoves. they don't like people to have control over their own lives and throwing authoritarian ankles on the left. it has to be stopped. you prayed that people care enough. >> emily: part of the argument exit was made, "oh, trucks are status symbols." the bad ratio to the cap is not what it used to be and people driving around city streets. when i was working at a ranch in montana and great virus, that is how the horses were moved here e moved and i can't imagine a preis coming and they are with 4 horse trailer and evacuating them to safety. i don't see about maybe the authors of axios live there and know something i don't. >> harris: unless they covered every ranch all across the plains with fast charging stations. that is not going to happen. trust help us move a lot but i

like the extended cab use of it because what it says, families are driving these vehicles now. i love -- i want to give all my time to you because you brought up a beautiful point. if you were buying a second vehicle, many of us has americans do that. a truck is something that has such longevity. what happens if you can't drive your fossil fuel -- what does that say? >> marc: it says the left is an authoritarian movement. most conservatives look and say, "look, if you want your electric stove and your electric car, go at it and live your life. be welcome enjoy yourself." maybe if you make them good enough and cheap enough i will buy one too. that is not good enough for the left. they want to tell you how to live your life and no, you will not drive a gas guzzling truck and no, you will not have a gas stove. you will have an electric stove because every building in new york city cannot have gas, right? the stuff is actually happening.

if the claimant radicals want to alienate gen z the best way to do it is take away their xbox is. [laughter] >> lili: but i look at this from the business landscape as a board member and business grow, esg of disclosures and coming from the sec in many cases if not "a woke corporation," you are forced to have these discussions in board meetings. because you have to disclose. whether expos are an outcome i will give them the benefit of the doubt, we will do these clean consoles or whatever. we don't know if it is a product of a requirement from the sec. so we can politicize it, great, that is ideology. but getting into the how business is being ran and amended to include these decisions and the board room commit is dangerous because it impacts the bottom line and we see that.

netflix down 50%, the net worth of ftx $32 billion down to 0%. ideology on paper from disclosures and now we see what it does. >> marc: the war on fossil fuels with oil and gas so what are people using? coal, coal fired xbox and cofiled electric -- >> lili: is that cleaner? >> marc: the steam engines to shovel the coal and fire to get it to go. [laughter] >> lili: it is too premature. >> emily: that is the point of wyoming when they put tongue-in-cheek bill and to require oil and gas cars because sick of people like the president telling them what to do in the name up wiping out pipelines and thousands of jobs. more "outnumbered" in just a minute.

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. ♪♪ >> last but not least, big news for harris. she is featured in the january edition of "power" magazine as her new book "faith still moves mountains" remains on the "new york times" best sellers list after nine weeks. harris, we are so proud of you. we are so thrilled for you. >> oh, my gosh, i'm so excited. >> we are so honored to watch you thrive in this journey, it's amazing. >> thank you, so proud to have my girls see me do this, being bold in your faith can usher in blessings that you had no idea were possible. and to share the stories of people who along the way are having their own miracles and moments with the lord. it really is amazing. and i want to thank "power"

magazine for recognizing me. it's just work and listening to the divine assignment from the lord. that's all it is. i'm so grateful and you know i treasure your friendship, we celebrate each other, thank you, emily, i love you for that. >> we celebrate you and your accomplishments and cannot wait to read "power" magazine, and of course, read "faith still moves mountains," which it does. here is "america reports." >> john: emily, thank you. a surge in attacks against catholic churches, arson, broken windows, decapitated statues and satanic graffiti, some involve theft, the vast majority were destruction of property. >> sandra: does that trend reveal they are motivated by a hatred toward religion. a former priest will share his thoughts on that coming up.