rough rovey, lot of friends on the rehab, going to be doing -- not that kind of rehab. personal fitness what is it called? pt the guys are telling me so i'm going to try to build back the muscle as soon as i can. thank you for watching. remember it is america now and forever. i'll see you next week. gutfeld takes it all from here. ♪ [cheers and applause] >> greg: here we go. yeah, there's the set. there i am. happy tuesday, everybody. i love you. keep your shirt on lady. tonight's monologue is for the children. and not just alec baldwin's. i mean all american kids being destroyed by people who claim to be looking out for them.

i call it, everybody run! it's the attack on brass. why are the democrats so evil? [laughter] [cheers and applause] >> greg: you know, sometimes i think he takes my direction too literally. i said, you know, it's about attacking children and he goes the attack on brats. like a 1950s horror movie about sausage. tonight i dedicate my monologue to the next generation because someone's got to look out for them t democrats certainly aren't. fact is we're in a cultural war and the kids are caught in the cross fire literally if they're in chicago or baltimore or dc. if the mayor stands for d after their name it stands for duck. post covid there's a new pandemic out there kids killing kids. according to the wall street

journal violence among kids has soared since 2020, it's a stain on this country spreading faster than the one on joe biden's pants. homicides by juveniles acting alone rose 30% in 2020 from a year earlier, while those committed by multiple kids were up 66%. and murders committed by kids under 14 are the highest in 20 years. i guess fox news weatherman adam klotz should count himself lucky that he only got his ass kicked. still, though, by a group of teens. i mean, anyway. now, police prosecutors and community groups point to the lockdowns, deprived children of interaction with others, of course, forcing them to stay locked down at home, their mental health no doubt will take a hit. kids had to live like prison inmates except inmates aren't melting their brains with social media. they're too busy sending fan

mail to cat. she keeps 'em. and when kids aren't killing each other with guns, they're dying from drugs. this is upbeat i'm telling you. fentanyl defendants among kids rising faster than parents bloop. fentanyl defendants from 14 and under have tripled in the last two years. of course we know where fentanyl comes from. china. just like another poison. tik tok. that relent less faucet of brain wash flowing to every kids' room. imagine a device of self destruction delivered into every american home a device that dares you to choke yourself to death to swallow edible objects to embrace ideas that alienate you from your family. that's tik tok. no wonder kids are turning to prescription and he will legal drugs. also fatter do to corn syrup and sugar and porn over real life. so you have diet drugs education isolation antisocial behavior. what are these kids going to be

like in ten years? [laughter] >> greg: let's hope not. meanwhile there's antifa. they seem fine, right? they aren't quite kids anymore, but they're young losers with nothing but hate in their eyes. take a look at the recent arrest from the lan a antifa mostly peaceful protests. all mug messy hair rich white kids who clearly aren't spending their trust if you understand on hygiene products. be glad their mug shots aren't scratch and sniff. think of sam bankman with a chip on his shoulder bigger than his [bleep]. so what happened to them? and, again, where are the adults? well, bill maher is one adult looking at what's happening to kids and he's worried, too. listen to him. >> we live in a prison yard this country where everything is tribal and everything to do with

schools or education is something the democrats have to answer for because they control it. if you look at the democratic convention three-quarters are teacher. my sister's a teacher i'm a big defender of teachers but what's going on in the school is outrages and needs to answer for it. >> maher who doesn't have kids of his own is also saying kids are being screwed by teachers and not the fun kind like in the gym teacher's van. those were the days. he realizes it's not progress to eliminate rash ality science and truth unless the end goal is to screw up the society beyond repair. you have events like queer prom in bucks county pa with the senator bragging about it. drag queens with lube and condoms kids as young as 13 were given dental dams and i still don't know what that is. and i don't want to know. when i was that age, i'd be lucky if i got a stick of winter green gum. you can do a lot with that.

bring this up, however, and you know what you get? you get the smirk. the dismissal. what i call the straw trans argument, like the raw man argument but with boobs and a bulge. if you support science biology and fundamental routes that have been agreed upon for a millennia now you hate trans people. when in fact it has nothing to do with trans adults it's about protecting kids that are being used in a cultural war. so the kids have been drafted through lockdowns, gender warfare high punishly about the climate screams across the country coming from the classrooms. from the left it's all about power and seizing that power starts with children, it's a mental version of pedophilia but here it's the mind they're screwing. [cheers and applause] period! >> greg:. >> greg: let's welcome tonight's guests. he saved the government millions by cutting his own heir. author of the new book start, stay or leave, trey gowdy!

[cheers and applause] >> greg: he's got the heart of a lion and the eyes of a guy that drinks beer for breakfast. actor and comedian jim breuer! [cheers and applause] >> greg: she's like an elevator, if something in her snaps, people die. fox news contributor, kat timpf! [cheers and applause] >> greg: i don't know about this one. he's like a laundry basket because when men see him they throw in the towel. my massive side kick and the nwa world heavy wait champion, tyrus. >> trey congrats on the new book i know it's going to go number one, start, stay or leave. it's a question on my mind every saturday night. i don't know what that means. but i went through a litany of problems for kids these days. am i overlooking the resiliency

of them? like we thought we had it bad, but they feel like they're having it worse. >> trey: i think they have it worse because we use children and education as kind of a proxy war for adult wars. and whether -- some people would argue we used the military for that in the past. i think we're using education. what struck me during your monologue greg is we're not doing well on reading and writing, the things that we fundamentally or frankly teach or children how to teach critically. if we can master that then maybe take on more complicated things but we haven't mastered that. it's a devaluing of life. i was a prosecutor before congress. but also part of the other message you hear from progressive prosecutors is that there's not going to be any consequence. i mean, there was one week, greg, where there were four 17 year olds that went to prison for life without parole. four 17 year olds. which means four people lost their lives, four mothers are

saying good-bye to their kids for life, or lost their -- it's just, i don't know, young people sometimes just don't value life, the finality of taking a life. and, yeah, i'm glad i'm not growing inprimarily because there are cell phones and other recording devices but i'm glad i'm not growing up like they're growing up. >> greg: well, that was an upbeat response to my question, trey. looking at my wrist right now, going, tell me wife to get that bathtub warmed up. jim, you have kids, do you ever sometimes stay up at night and wonder if they might murder you in your sleep? >> jim: i don't worry about that. i'm more worried about once in a while my kids bring someone home like, hey, that's they, it, or was. and i go, i -- what is going on? what is your name? i don't have a name.

what are we playing right now. what are we doing? and then i'm the jerk. i'm the maniac. in my day woke was called crazy. >> greg: yeah. yeah. >> jim: if an eight year old came up to me and said hey, man, i'm woke, i think i'm a girl. i'd go, no, you're crazy. let's talk. >> greg: you know that there's now a thing called trans age. have you heard about this? >> jim: no. >> greg: these are adults who identify as children, and they want you to look at them as that being their correct age, which then opens the door for god knows what. crazy? that's crazy. >> jim: that's crazy >> kat: yeah, but then when i'm older if i say i identify as i'm 25 i can maybe get insurance to pay for my face lift. >> greg: see there is a silver lining >> kat: i'm always looking for

it. i'm such a positive person. >> greg: i was very -- i guess i was shocked by the murder statistic but then i'm wondering, is it gang stuff. like as a child, do they call a 17 year old a child? is that fair? what do you say kat? what's your solution? >> kat: well i believe children are the future so we should teach them well and let them lead the way. i just came up with that. yeah. >> greg: you know who wrote that? michael jackson. he loved children. anyway... what? >> kat: i'm against murder for people of any age. >> greg: good for you >> kat: other stuff, like in this story, was that paid for by planned parenthood does that mean our tax dollars are buying lube for kids? >> greg: isn't that crazy >> kat: i'm against that. there are better things we could spend money. the bar is so low now parents, no matter what your views are when you talk about what i want that's best for my kids and the

government has the attitude of, don't you mean our kids? not everyone wants to be in a puffle with the state most people don't and we should start. >> greg: there was a lot of that mentality in the last election where people were saying that the union, the teachers have more say over kids than the parents do. where are the parents, though, tyrus? >> tyrus: yeah, that's a great question because i think that's the ones who are involved because, you know, the answer to the question, my kids could try to kill me. they still have a hard time getting past the look, so i don't, you know >> greg: what if they ganged up on you? >> tyrus: they'd still be outnumbered outclassed and outsized. and i know which ones would turn on each other like that. not hard to talk them out of it. you know you were always my favorite. that's why you have numbers. they'll turn. the eight year old will turn on everybody, and she's my spy. so if there's any plotting going on i'll get a text.

and i shoot it down. but i am responsible for my children. so if my child went out and did something horrific i'm responsible for that. so i think, i know in louisiana we do this little bit but we've got to start going back to, and i hate to say it, you have to have curfews and when children are charged mom and dad have to be charged. if your kid's out running the street and commits a heinous crime you're responsible. we have to put responsibility back to the parents. used to be it takes a village to, you know, to raise a child. but they didn't mean the village people? you know what i'm saying. they meant a village. >> greg: nice. >> tyrus: you know? and we have to -- if one of my children ends up being gay or non-binary or whatever, they still have the same rules as my heterosexual child. so there will be no lube. you know what? there will be no condoms, or there will be murder. like you can be those things without it being sexualized.

and that's the problem that we're -- that they're trying to slide by us is, because what it is, it's pedophilia. you know, because there is no reason -- if you had trippers at my 13 year old birthday party, although i would say this is the greatest party of my life, and then at some point condoms would be thrown out i would be like mom, i love you so much. that never happened because it would be inappropriate and that stripper would be arrested. there's no difference. >> greg: yeah. those were the good old days. sad. all right, oh, this is going to be great. up next, will block buster save the oscars from the grave? ♪ ya know, if you were cashbacking you could earn on everything with just one card. chase freedom unlimited. so, if you're off the racking... ...or crab cracking, you're cashbacking. cashback on flapjacks, baby backs,

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>> greg: welcome back. will the oscars be a pile of crap a year after will smith ease slap? i speak of course of the 95th annual academy awards. 95 years old. i believe we have a picture of the very first host. [laughter] [cheers and applause] >> greg: they announced the nominees and they're already beginning rehearsals for the opening number. here's a peek at it. get right to the point, i say. now, of course, it's easy to bash the show over pretentious politics when it really should be a night of insulting women for their dresses. it's no secret ratings have been dropping steadily like make al

gain's balls. i don't know why i put that in there. i don't know why. i just thought michael cain's balls was a funny comment. at one point the show mattered and for years they've been trying to make the case again by getting rid of white people and nominating movies no one has heard of. but this year they're changing things up nominating popular films for the biggest awards, that includes top gun maverick and avatar two. one features the freakish ageless alien and the other one's the sequel to avatar. [laughter] >> greg: of course there are things working against this year's show. jimmy kimmel's hosting and he's a bigger downer than popping quaaludes while watching sophie's choice. the big take away the nominees were announced and once again i was snubbed. true, i didn't act in a single film but i did appear in some surveillance videos.

who knew they could hide cameras in a public park restroom. i know now. jim, how -- they're going to get a built in audience for this right? >> jim: they are? >> greg: because of the slap people are going to want to see how do they get past the slap? >> jim: i don't know. by the way that, too, really, i'm still -- there's a lot of questions with that one. there's a lot of -- i mean -- all right. i shouldn't. i shouldn't say anything. >> greg: no, go. >> jim: i was going to say, first of all, listen, love chris rock comedian. street smarts? someone -- listen. you can't tell me he's never crossed paths with will smith. that's number one. number two, if anyone got up, even you got up right here and i saw you were furious, the first thing you go hey. he went arms behind the back face in. i don't know if anyone's been in the street but if i saw anyone

coming at a with me like this i don't say hold on let me put my hands behind my back. okay. you sit in the front. okay. when's my award? okay. yeah, i don't buy this as a staged event. >> tyrus: i would only counter that if you would have told me that a millionaire would walk up to me and slap me and the whole world's going to watch it i would put my hands behind me back, too, and as soon as he hit me i would be like, is there a lawyer in the house. so, yeah, that's the only time. >> greg: i will say this. i will pay money just to watch jim breuer reenact the entire oscars. i think you should watch the oscars and do a podcast thingy and i'll watch you do everybody. i can't make fun of the oscars anymore. is it time to let them start over? >> tyrus: i think that started. i think we're seeing the woke checks have come in and they're

short. like eminem's like okay we're stopping. everyone's stopping and okay they're going to, okay, tom cruz is finally at the table because of maverick and avatar. this is the problem with the academy awards. they shove stuff down your throat so many times to try to be woke and make sure everyone's not always the best person gets the award but whoever the flavor of the month is, right? and i told you to watch it, you watched it. was it anything -- >> greg: everywhere at once. >> tyrus: everywhere at once should probably win the oscar phenomenal movie and has an aging craft. why? great movie. it will be tainted because if it wins the cynics will go oh, because it's women and asian instead of it was a really great movie. >> greg: you lead me -- do wove that tweet put out i think by a hollywood reporter i think about michelle ohio >> kat: ma she ohio has made history as the first person who

identified as asian to be nominated as best actress at the oscars. you're welcome. >> greg: what did you say? identifies as asian. they don't say a enenthey say identifies as. so they're as stupid as they've always been. >> tyrus: i hope she throws them for a lop and says as an irish immigrant i'm so happy for this award. that's what i would do. >> greg: are you going to watch >> kat: no, i'm not going to watch. because movies i don't watch because they're too long and then this is even longer. >> greg: yes, it is >> kat: not for me >> greg: if they did oscars for youtube videos, you would watch >> kat: maybe. i don't know. will smith -- >> greg: i just came up with an idea >> kat: okay. even if he's allowed to go i don't think he would go because he's going to be way too busy arguing with his wife about what happened last year. >> greg: that's true >> kat: that's why you want to make so sure that you never have any kind of life changing experience on any kind of annual

event. >> greg: right, because every year it comes up >> kat: every year. even if it's something heap like a marchage you better hope you're one of the 50% that works out. >> greg: this is why i pick a fight with my wife on february 29th. oh, yeah, it gets bad, it's ugly >> kat: get is because there's no february 29th. >> tyrus: it's called leap year >> kat: every four years. >> greg: that was my point. are you trying to explain my joke to the audience? >> kat: i thought, yeah. >> greg: trey, you're a hollywood kind of guy. >> trey: i literally would rather set myself on fire than watch the oscars. literally. i like ricky gervais. i don't know what one he does. >> greg: golden globes. did it once they didn't have him back. >> trey: right. it's worth listening to him make fun of the people who are so self-important. i haven't seen any of those movies. i watched british crime dramas

and they're not up for any awards this year. so i won't be watching it. literally anything, i'll watch the weather channel before i watch the oscars. >> greg: no, you'll watch the thought weather. >> trey: that's what i meant. what did i say. >> greg: the fox weather app. >> trey: what did i say? >> greg: with adam klotz, again. again, i think we should be very grateful that adam klotz . that's two days in a row no one liked that joke. i used that joke yesterday no one liked it. >> tyrus: there's another tomorrow. >> greg: adam klotz is a sentence, two words, and he didn't bleed so obviously adam clots >> kat: i think they get it. >> tyrus: it's always better on wednesday. >> greg: up next are trucks too large when they're as big as a barge? ♪

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>> greg: welcome back. do we really need giant trucks to drive our butt to starbucks. axios, an online thing, reports how pickup trucks have become so imposing over years and apparently this is a problem. imposing a word usually reserved for museums, mansions and a stack of kilmeade bucks in the reminders section. probably unnecessary. but that's why i like it. as axios points out, truck sales are through the roof as people embrace the big truck life style. pickups bring in record profits for auto makers but safety advocates say their massive size weight and blind spots render them unsafe. which is the same thing they said about the statue of liberty. thank you. i'm the real hero. actually, they didn't say that at all but it sounded good.

axios implies the bigger crime is that most don't even use their big trucks to haul anything. oh, so now you're only allowed to drive a truck if you're loading cement. what's next i can only use my submarine to hunt mermaids? yeah. critics also complained that since trucks are so tall in front they typically hit pedestrians in the torso or head whereas cars with lower hoods hit pedestrians in the legs, where they deserve it. they also whine that people like their big trucks despite the potential danger because they're masculine, rugged and all american. and as we all know, those are three repulsive attributes that stink of patriarchy. masculine, rugged, all american. gross. sounds like a trey gowdy swim suit calendar. [laughter] [cheers and applause] >> greg: just planting the idea. but if you're wondering why

trucks are the most popular vehicles in america, observe a typical sale. >> hey, how's it going? can i get you in a new car today? >> well, maybe my last car was a prius, i'm looking for something green. >> okay, well the way i see it you could either buy a truck or you can be a [bleep]. so what do you say you take the f-150 for a spin, bring it back in about an hour. >> well, okay. >> whoa, how was the test drive. >> this truck is awesome dog. >> and who are these women. >> just some babes a met at truck fest. >> okay, one truck coming up. >> i'll take three trucks. >> three trucks? >> one for east of my testicles. now hop in the cab i need some help taking down some solar panels. [cheers and applause] >> greg: tyrus, it seems like places like axios, they go out

of their way to find things that best reflect like just average americans to decide that they hate it. >> tyrus: obviously the sensitive writer was cut off in traffic by a person who looked like me. fine. because as an imposing and american truck owner, yeah, i'm a giant guy so i have a giant truck. and, yeah, you know what? if you're going to get hit by a car better off be a truck because it will be like that. it goes back to the whole thing where you keep teasing a certain weather man by getting beat up by teens. would you rather say you got hit by a prius or you got run over by a truck? you know? >> greg: what if it's five little priuses and they surround you? >> tyrus: even worse. again this goes back to this thing, like i said i drive a big chevy and the only thing i will give them, when you see really small people. >> greg: wait. >> tyrus: when you see really small people who can barely clear the steering wheel. >> greg: i know what you're saying. >> tyrus: i have never seen you in a truck but i imagine you wouldn't clear the steering

wheel. and when you see them and they look over and stuff like that, you kind of go woo. but as a tall person it's exactly what i need. >> greg: it keeps me from test driving. when they bring out the stepladder trey it's humbling. people who own pickup trucks essentially make the world go round. that axios guy has no idea the guys making sure they get food to their table probably drive pickup trucks. >> trey: i don't make sure food gets to the table but i do drive a pickup truck for a reason axios did not cite. nobody asks to ride with you if there's no seat in the back. i have a big truck, there's no seat in the back. nobody says hey will you give me a ride somewhere. here's the other thing about getting hit, where you get hit. it reminded me of something my father said when he was growing up. he said trey got hit in the head where it's less likely to do any damage. so if you're going to get hit in

the head or hit in the knee it's probably better to get hit in the head i would think in my case. >> greg: you're probably the first person to ever say that. aim for the head not for the neechlt jim, speaking of which, i miss the good old days when we were growing up you could ride in the back seat of a truck, are he be that? >> jim: you could hang out in the back seat of the truck. i was in a station wagon, i was in the back of a station wagon. but a truck, yeah, you could hang out in the back. not only that, listen, just for security reasons, i always wanted a truck, all right? and i tried getting a truck couple times, my wife went for the sports car. i remember hitting a car -- i remember getting in an accident, i was 18 with a '78 buick la saber, and this thing knocked the other car about four blocks. so -- yeah. and i got out of my car like, oh, my dad's going to kill me. there wasn't a dent. so that's why i have e always wanted a truck.

and i live in florida. there's people having strokes just going through a red light. i want a truck. i want it for safety, to be honest with you. >> greg: trucks are fun. >> jim: yeah. >> greg: kat you have a big bed in the back. you can play with your dolls. [laughter]. >> tyrus: have you even been in a truck ever. >> greg: i was trying to think, she could play with her dolls. that is the creepiest thing >> kat: yeah. this axios, whoever wrote it, i don't know if they know what they did here but if you haven't noticed nobody who owns a truck just feels kind of okay about it as it is, and if you think that people love their trucks now, this just made them star-crossed lovers with their trucks, which always ads to the allure. so i think people are going to be like way more hard core about their trucks. nobody's convinced to give up their truck because of this.

now they feel like victims. >> greg: exactly. and by the way, you know, think about this, no one in a prius can push you out of a ditch. that's why he -- it's generally the people that pull over to help you are in trucks and they usually have a way to tow you out of stuff. of course you might end up dismembered in the woods but that's a risk you take in america. they'll get you out of a ditch then they'll cut you to pieces. >> trey: it's a small price to pay. >> greg: a small price to pay trey. if you're nice i'll hit you in the head. coming up the power of christ compels at the home where pelosi dwells. ♪ [cheers and applause] nce, here's a little number you'll never forget. ♪customize and save♪ only pay for what you need. ♪liberty liberty liberty♪ ♪liberty♪ with downy infusions, let the scent set the mood.

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her home to get rid of any evil left by the attack on her husband. and a recent exorcism is a huge plus if they decide to sell the place. i don't know. alexander pelosi told the new york times quote i think that really broke her. over thanksgiving she had priests coming trying to have an exorcism of the house and having prayer services. oddly enough the pelosies bought stock in holy water in sacramento just a week before. turns out though the exorcism may not have happened? what? the pastor of pelosi's parent says that as far as he knows no services were performed but that's what they would think they want you to believe. we don't know that for sure do we? anyway i don't want to make fun of nancy too much. she's been through a lot. of surgery. and i, myself, have a priest

exercise my house after kat comes over with her husband. in fact instead of holy water i use lysol. kat, it is so easy to make fun of her for this but i totally understand this. if you've ever had a break in in your house or somebody stole your car and you get it back, you have to do something. you have to do something like to get rid of the violation. and, by the way, what's wrong with an exorcism? >> kat: i don't know i was raised very catholic to the point where i thought this was going to be a larger part of my life than it turned out. >> greg: i did, too. when i watched the exorcist i thought it would happen >> kat: even as an agnostic i'm way more believing in demons than hope for god. so i totally get it whether it happened or not. if i ever heard anything creepy in the house i would want an exorcism and if i ever came home from a school dance with condoms and lube my mom would have organized one. >> greg: yes, exactly. jim, was this anything like your

thanksgiving? [laughter]. >> jim: no. but maybe she was thinking about an exorcism and then what she didn't expect was the demon coming out of her. [making demonic noises] >> greg: you are terrible. i'm pro exorcism. are you pro exorcism? >> jim: i'm pro chocolate ice cream. get me the ice cream. >> greg: what was it the gelati. it begins with a t. i can't remember the name. what do you make of this. >> trey: i think the better use of pelosi's time was to get her daughter to stop talking to the new york times. crime victims react differently. you use the word violate. even burglary victims without an assault do feel a violation. i don't know how an exorcism

would help anymore than having a preacher come over but it doesn't bother me that she did it. if it brings her peace. it is a horrible feeling to have your home invaded and anyone injured. so i'm going to give her a pass on this. but her daughter needs to quick talking to the new york times about exorcism. >> greg: yeah. i'm a huge fan of the placebo effect so even if the exorcism isn't legitimately doing something the fact that it can generate a feeling within you that something is happening is good enough for me, tyrus. why, what are you looking at me? >> tyrus: it's not good enough for me. i'm sorry. i'd get it if she was in a person who can make laws and add police. >> greg: that's true. >> tyrus: and create curfews and do something with prison reform. so you're telling me you're an elected official and your best bet is to pray. wow. that's what you've got. all those years in government, an exorcism, that can't even be confirmed or denied. [cheers and applause].

>> tyrus: can you imagine the next time somebody gets robbed. well, did you call a priest? >> greg: yeah. >> tyrus: so don't call the police, call an exorcism >> kat: is it just me i'm still scared you shouldn't said that, the demons are going to come in here. >> tyrus: listen i'm black if you're coming in my house you're paying rent. if you're going to be a ghost walking around turn off the lights when i ask you to. i don't care if you're there just be productive. we don't have time for that [bleep]. >> greg: that is the truth. >> tyrus: boo. turn the life off dog. >> greg: you framed it for me in a sense that, everything that she has ever done is after the fact of a crime, not to prevent one. >> tyrus: boom. >> greg: i didn't even look at it that way. there you go. [cheers and applause] >> greg: all right, up next she says someone killed epstein and got away clean. [cheers and applause]

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♪ >> a story in five words ♪ >> greg: story in five words. ghislaine says epstein was murdered. all right, trey, former prosecutor very brilliant mind. jeffrey epstein's accomplice and former girlfriend said in a jail house interview she believes he was murdered. i never asked you this. do you knowing he was murdered? i'll shut up. >> trey: i think you have a medical examiner who says it was homicide. you have a paid by the family medical examiner who says it was suicide. you have to cross-examine them so the truth comes out. my question is how would she know if he was murdered. what's her personal knowledge to give us that opinion? wasn't she like on trial or awaiting trial or something? she wasn't there so how does she know. >> greg: but maybe she knew all

the information that he had. >> trey: maybe she sent the killer. i don't know. we've got a -- i mean, what we've got is a medical examiner that said it's suicide and often times we want to run for what is more exotic other than what is right in front of us which is the guy didn't want to spend the rest of his life in prison so he killed himself. >> greg: i thought you were going to say what's right in front of us, hillary killed him. that's what i thought you were going to say. [cheers and applause]. >> greg: jim you don't strike me as a conspiracy minded person at all. [laughter]. >> greg: who killed epstein? >> jim: i don't think he's dead. [laughter]. >> jim:. >> greg: we never saw the body. >> jim: first of all, the cameras were off. oh, this is a weird malfunction. one of the human beings most responsible for the most horrific acts over years and

years and years bribing politicians, actors, producers, everyone you can imagine, you get that guy, you're going to have a ball in his mouth he's going to be hanging and it's going to be like we need some names and you ain't leaving until -- up, no, he's dead. okay. i buy that one. no, you know, she's telling the truth on this one. i'm the conspiracy... where's the list? >> greg: that's what i want to know is what happened to all that information, kat? where's the names? and also that picture of him coming out of the -- we never got a clear picture of his body >> kat: yeah, i don't trust anything she says so i think he was murdered all because of my own self. like, it just makes -- look, we don't have the footage. we don't have the list.

i mean, like crazier stuff has happened. it's not like nothing that's ever been called a conspiracy has not turned out to be true. >> greg: exactly. look at jfk, hmm? yeah. >> tyrus: oj was acquitted by his peers. >> greg: oj killed jfk? >> tyrus: got a better shot at that. >> greg: terrible. so what do you think? >> tyrus: i'm going with conspiracy theories. [bleep] he's alive, he's back on the island, he's getting a face lift and he's really hunter biden. never seen them in the same place at the same time, have you? >> greg: i was thinking tyou know, sometimes i think i look like epstein. remember this, from the deposition. >> kat pull his wig off. >> greg: we have to move on. don't go away we'll be right

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>> we are out of time. thanks to trey gowdy and our studio audience. trace gallagher is next. [applause] >> trace: thank you, greg. good evening, everyone, and welcome to america's late news, "fox news at night." i'm trace gallagher in los angeles. breaking tonight, it's not just present joe biden. it turns out mike pence also had classified documents in his home. even though he insisted in november he did not. for the very latest including how the biden white house is keeping quiet on the docu-drama, let's get to kevin corke at the nation's capital. >> good evening, trace. it was not that long ago, as you ac