what they can find. 1947. great year. my mom and dad were born then. my dad texted me yesterday saying check the garage. didn't have any classified documents in there. good to know, dad. real good to know. not my document. >> bill: check the safe. >> dana: i don't have a safe. shall i admit that? >> bill: does your dad have a safe? >> dana: i don't know. we're pretty open. harris faulkner is up next. >> harris: breaking developments this hour with 20 republican governors launching lawsuits against the biden administration suing over what president biden is doing making the crisis we're in at the border permanent. allowing hundreds of thousands of people into america each year and they can stay. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." texas is taking the lead on this with the 19 other states signing on. the lawsuit says the new program

is illegal. it gives certain migrants who come to the u.s. system the whole process legally the ability to gain work permits and the right to stay in america for two years. looking at the list of qualifications, my team did, the bar is low for them to pass. here are the numbers with the biden program. it will allow 30,000 people from haiti, nicaragua, cuba, venezuela to enter the u.s. each month. over 12 months math on this it's 360,000 people every year. now here is a key issue. that number is in addition to the millions of illegal immigrants who keep flowing in because of biden's policies at this point. some house republicans say biden's policies are trashing our national security and giving over our border to the worst of the worst. >> the fact of the matter is there is a war at our southern border and right now we are

losing it. >> the biden administration has deestablish illized our southern border. it is a lie when they say they have operational control. mexican drug cartels have control of the southern border. with that control they move lethal drugs, terrified human cargo and commit crimes wherever and whatever they are. >> harris: chip roy is in "focus" today. matt finn is live for us at the border in eagle pass, texas. matt. >> harris, nearly daily basis here at the southern border we are reporting on the major fentanyl busts. in arizona, new mexico, here in texas. now these republican leaders are criticizing the president saying on his visit here to the southern border just weeks ago he did not focus on the cartels and he did not focus on fentanyl which is killing nearly 70,000 americans every year. >> earlier this month we know president biden met with the

president of mexico and it was an opportunity for them to finally reverse course on the terrible policies at our southern border and do something to address this humanitarian and security crisis. but what commitments did they publish immediately following that meeting? topping the list diversity, equity, inclusion. climate change and integrating gender perspectives into disaster response. >> nowhere in the six pillars agreement between president biden and the president of mexico is the word fentanyl mentioned by name. >> and we have this brand-new video to show you really just another day at the border. this large group of migrants crossing into the united states shortly after sun rise. fox cameras captured this group. they are organized into single files as we see so often. placed on a bus and taken to a processing center and many of the migrants that you see on video will be released into the

united states. harris. >> harris: matt finn. thank you very much. let's bring if republican congressman chip roy of texas, member of the judiciary committee in "focus" now. thank you for being with me. first of all, some other republicans we showed off the top of this hour called it war at the border. are we ready to fight that war? >> good to be on as always. my colleagues have it right. in fact i don't think they are going far enough. what we are seeing in south texas with the continued expansion of cartels we're seeing murders at the hands of cartels. fentanyl pouring into our communities. the same old story a lot of us have been saying for two years. now the biden administration will double down on policies using parole. it is supposed to say case-by-case. they now take people from different countries and don't go pass go and come straight into the united states and get a path to a visa. meanwhile turning away people at the border. from those countries but they

will bypass the border and bring them straight into the united states. that's the kind of games they are playing. that's the games they've been playing. this is why i introduced hr29 and why majority leader scalise made it one of our priorities because we need to detain or turn away. that's what we need to do the change the policies at the border. republicans have got to get with the program and understand what it means to actually do something about it instead of speaking about it. it is our time to act. you have to use the debt ceiling fight the spending fight and we'll have to do what the senate didn't do when mitch mcconnell capitulateed in december and took away leverage now. we have to use the fight in september to demand biden do the right thing and hr29 is the right path forward. detain like current law requires under asylum ajudd indication. we will allow asylum claims but you need to be detained. they are trying to use eye

as asylum -- i've had it. we'll do something about it and make my republican colleagues join us in the effort. >> harris: i want to try to understand is this the kind of amnesty? by the way, congressman, if they are allowed to stay for two years are we really going to see people being rounded up, 360,000 a year at that point? >> this is designed actually purposely to end run the requirement that we stop people at the border. this is why it's so critically important we detain or turn away like title 42. how many republicans have you had come on including some of the republicans who say that our bill hr29 is harsh, they have come on and said use title 42 to turn people away. it is consistent with the law. every american should agree with us and does agree with us. we shouldn't just allow an open

flood of the border. come here, claim asylum. adjudicate your claim but we turn away if you are flooding the zone because cartels are making money. if you do that reclaim control of the border and the most compassionate thing we can do as people of faith. it is unchristian like and not right to allow little girls to get sold into the text trade. i'm tired of republicans using rhetoric that's not addressing the problem of the people getting abused. that's what is happening right now. >> harris: let's go to this. the same day we learned that former vice president mike pence team discovered classified documents in his home in indiana the white house was refusing to answer any questions about president biden's document scandal. >> we know the president did it. why did he do it? >> i would refer you to the white house counsel's office. >> in the president's own words he admits to having information that wasn't his. why did he smuggle it out?

>> i will let the statement of the president stand for itself. i won't go down a rabbit hole with you on this. >> harris: answering questions now is akin to going down a rabbit hole. true if you don't know the answers. >> i think all politicians need to be held accountable what they are doing with classified documents. the key part. the f.b.i. targeted a former president and raided his home 60 days before an election. the current sitting president with real problems with classified documents sitting in a garage next to his corvette and the white house says sorry, nothing to see here. we know exactly what this is about. they want to hide where we think the biden regime has been in terms of cahoots with china and ukraine. they don't want to go down that road. the democratic establishment is now too okay with saying maybe biden has a problem and we should be looking somewhere else

in 2024. we need to seek the truth wherever it may lead on these documents. >> harris: you talked about we need to get our arms around this whomever takes unclassified document -- classified documents and they know they shouldn't. like senators and potentially that's what's happened with biden. some of the most recent documents found date back to when he was a senator. that reign ended 15 years ago. does vice president coming forward vice president pence come forward give biden any cover in this? >> it just exposes that we need to get to the bottom of what all these documents are and quite confident knowing the man mike pence is he will be happy to cooperate and this is why i had them and it was a mistake or not. it goes to the overclassification. we need to know what's at the university of delaware and need to know what's in hunter biden's offices and all of his

connections and need to know because president biden is the president. and there are very legitimate questions about his ties to china, his ties to burisma and his ties in ukraine. we need to know the truths. it is affecting our policy right now. >> harris: i like the fact you mentioned the university of delaware. thanks for reminding me of that. 1,850 boxes of biden material. we don't know if or how many of those could possibly be classified. it is interesting that the f.b.i., the d.o.j. are not perched at the door steps of where the boxes are being held to see what's in them. more members of president biden's own political party are taking on biden over his document scandal. senator joe manchin says it couldn't get any worse. senator mark kelly, i don't think any classified document should be at somebody's house. senator john tester. we have to get to the bottom of it to find out what the hell

happened. his words. our own legal analyst andy mccarthy titled biden's blame shifting excuses for classified documents makes scandal worse. congressman, your reaction to all of that. >> as usually often agree with my good friend andy mccarthy and the op-ed is on point. you recounted democrat senators from west virginia, arizona, montana, red states. those are three senators who know exactly what is at stake right now and they know this president is out of touch. he doesn't want to have to deal with the truth in front of us and we need to pursue the truth. they know it and they'll go down that road. i think this is also a recognition in this town they want to try to move a different direction in 24. there is disarray in the democrat party and disarray from a leader who doesn't know how to lead and handled by handlers in the white house. we need to seek the truth and i believe on a bipartisan basis. we need to know what document mike pence had at his house.

mike pence is a good man. we'll know what it is. let's get the information from president biden and seek the truth. >> harris: you mentioned the word handled. i often say handle your scandal when it comes to the white house. there is another reason to bring that up today. a reporter pressing the white house on how former vice president pence handled his document situation which is what you are laying out, congressman, versus how the president handled his. let's watch. >> one of the things the pence team seems to have done in the last week is make public disclosure of this circumstance. advised congress and now the public. any reflections among the communications or press staff how the pence team handled it versus how you handled it? >> i understand your question and hear it. we've answered your question in many different variations. i don't have anything else to share from here. >> harris: quick last word in response to that. >> there is a concept-in-law

called the thing speaks for itself. the counsel to mike pence is a good man and pence is a goodman. they are bringing it forward. why won't biden? you know why. >> harris: good to see you. the white house says it will work with house republicans. lawmakers investigating claims that the department of justice targeted parents protesting at school board meetings. likening them to domestic terrorists. remember that? how much cooperation would we really see? let's see how it will shake out if they work together. house democrats are lashing out to republicans off this kicking them off key committees calling it political vengeance. >> that he has to do the most extreme elements of his conference. >> harris: mccarthy will say why he gave them the boot. reaction, brian kilmeade in

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d.o.j. which is accused of treating concerned parents like domestic terrorists. chairman jordan sent a letter to biden's chief of staff saying the white house has been stonewalling his requests about the justice department's monitoring of parents at school board meetings. the d.o.j. and attorney general merrick garland have long denied they ever targeted parents. you'll recall republican senators and a.g. in a heated hearing last year. >> the white house promptly called you and said sic the f.b.i. on parents at school board hearings. >> i did not speak with anyone from the white house. >> what would have led you to do this? it is so over the top. >> this memo is about violence an threats of violence. >> you have weaponized the f.b.i. and the department of justice. it is wrong, unprecedented to my knowledge in the history of this

country and i call on you to resign. >> harris: that was october 2021, fast forward in "focus" now and simulcasting from his radio student brian kilmeade. brian, first of all, not much has changed since those hearings. do you think it is about to with chairman jordan now getting a response from the white house that they want to work in good faith with him? >> well, you have a better answer than comer got with we'll decide what we'll cooperate with. my sense is, check my alerts. did garland resign? he didn't, right? i didn't think so. here is the thing if they will investigate this, i question their cooperation. if it turns out, we know the direct line of communication with the teachers union right to this administration, if they will investigate this, i don't think they'll love the result.

my sense is they'll get in there and try to divert or distract or get close and then pull back. this is something we have to get to the bottom of. investigating parents because they spoke up at school board meetings and listed as terrorists? when they stood out and spoke out they didn't like what their kids were learning. this is the dangerous thing for democrat. if you want the country to unite. turn on parents because they don't care about democrats or republicans but they care about their kids. this is a very dangerous committee for the democrats, harris, if you ask me. maybe that's why they want to make sure their hand is in it. >> harris: when you say to somebody you'll negotiate in good faith. those are the kinds of words parents are listening to because they feel like they haven't been heard and when you go to those meetings and i have been to a couple in different states, they are bipartisan. the unity is non-political. it is the child in their

household or the children in their household. >> and think about this. this was a raging story when that off-year election happened that had governor youngkin beat an established former governor. it doesn't happen if everything that we discussed wasn't real and that parent weren't outraged. it happened in a democratic district and then in a state and we get exposed about something else, 17 separate districts not telling people that their kids that they earned merritt scholarships because you wanted to flatten the playing field. this is a big one to get to the bottom of. i don't want to see political points. i want to see the reality below it. i think i know where it is heading. >> harris: so many more parents going to board meetings. they have to. there is woke to talk about now. we don't get letters home asking us if it's okay to talk about sexual things with really young kids. there are a lot of reasons why

we as parents across america will engage. so they've got to get to the bottom of how parents have been treated. democrat congressman eric swalwell is lashing out. he is very upset at speaker kevin mccarthy for being booted off the intelligence committee and boot he'd march and schiff. they are calling it an act of political vengeance in a joint statement. swalwell with a threat. >> he will regret the day that he has given me more free time. i won't be quiet or back down. i will do everything i can over the next two years to hold mr. mccarthy and the people he struck the corrupt bargain with accountable. >> harris: that's rue the day. speaker mccarthy defending his decision. >> if you want to talk about swalwell let's talk about him. it wasn't just us who were

concerned about him. the f.b.i. was concerned about putting a member of congress on the intel committee that had the rights to see things that others don't because of his knowledge and relationship with a chinese spy. >> he shouldn't have the responsibility to serve on the intel committee. >> harris: he knew the assignment and got right down to why he did it. >> eric swalwell speaking publicly because he is against something mccarthy is doing. he'll get on msnbc. eric swalwell earned his way off that committee. he went on to say it is a bipartisan committee, true. all blown up during the russia investigation that was a total hoax. when you stop people from investigating certain things because it would have led people away from any connection between donald trump and russia and

would have stopped this thing in its tracks and save the american people time and cut foreign policy off at its knees. there was a woman who got hired full-time extremely tight with swalwell. i wasn't there. but he was at the inner sank tom of his legitimate legislative decisions and part of his re-election campaign and she turns out to be in bed with the chinese government. that's called being compromised by a chinese spy. the last person -- one of the last outside of maybe seasoned else on there, the last person possibly that should be on the intel committee. i thought it was good they didn't say you shouldn't be on any committee. he is saying not on this committee. omar is anti-semitic and that's off foreign policy. pick another committee. >> harris: he knew the assign:

he knew -- he came ready with exactly why he did it and had receipts laid out shorter than yours. you had much more detail there but it is there to get. all the liberal hand wringing or pearl clutching about georgia's voting integrity law was meaningless. a new poll shows that 0 percent of black voters had a poor experience while voting in november's mid-term election. 0 that they polled. a far cry from these claims we heard over and over and over again. >> president biden: it is the most pernicious thing. it makes jim crow look like jim eagle. >> a remnant of jim crow. revival. attempted revival of jim crow. >> a jim crow kkk-lark caucus. >> their strategy is to pass racist voting laws, jim crow in the south.

>> harris: georgia's election system neither rocks or talks like the duck it was described as. the only question left to be answered is whether the chicken littles in the press will admit to their error. there is a little poultry for everybody there, brian. >> let's refresh our viewers memory. one of the things was you shouldn't be giving out water to people in line. you don't want to manipulate people. coffee, gift certificate. fine. then they said it's horrible. people will pass out. i'm sure everyone survived. they curtailed some sunday hours saying we don't want drop boxes in places we can't control but we'll have drop boxes. they decided major corporations decided to pull out and not worthy of the all-star game. the president of the united states says when i'm wrong i'll admit it. mr. president, harris has some room on her show today and possibly tomorrow.

go admit you are wrong, you overreacted and every other state -- there is an apology needed. >> harris: we have asked him to sit over and over. i appreciate the advocacy and you are spot on about the fact that he promised. he made a promise to the american people he would admit when he was wrong. i'll sit perched and wait. brian, great to see you in "focus." you have a radio show to do. thanks for simulcasting. >> we shared each other's audiences. >> harris: police in less than an hour giving an update on the murder of microsoft executive jared bridegan. an arrest could be coming as questions about his ex wife are swirling. the oversight committee chairman

laid out big differences between vice president pence and president biden's handling of classified document. >> we'll treat pence the same way we treat biden. pence has offered to cooperate and showing signs he will be fully cooperative with our investigation. >> harris: classified documents everywhere now. over here and there and everywhere. top senator telling all former presidents and former v.p.s check your closets. if you have a corvette check the garage. brett tollman a fantastic legal mind in "focus" next.

>> harris: many people pointing out the difference between vice president mike pence and president biden. pence with quick transparency going public within eight days

after discovering he had classified documents at his home in indiana. president biden sat on the information about his classified documents found in several locations for months. and is still dodging questions. here is congressman chip roy with me just a few moments ago. >> bipartisan basis we'll know what the documents are. we knowed to know what documents mike pence at his house. he is a good man. let's get the information from president biden and seek the truth. >> harris: there is an all call for all former presidents and vice presidents to launch their own searches. go see what you have. obama's office saying they quote have nothing at this time. former presidents george w. bush and bill clinton say they played totally by the book. no response from president carter's office. bipartisan voices supporting a systemic issue with document storage. democrat senator mark warner saying anyone who served in any

of these roles as president, vice president go check your closets and republican senator mike braun saying i'm guessing if you really did a deep dive, they are all sitting on stuff they shouldn't. president bush's former chief of staff also raising some concerns. >> it seems to be out of control. i would like to point out that classified documents aren't always only read in the scif. when you work at the white house it wasn't unusual for me to have a classified document delivered to my chief of staff's office. when you leave the white house, the principle almost never cleans up his own mess or packs his own boxes. having said that it is wrong to take classified documents and not to make sure they are secure. i think this is a problem. >> harris: andy card gave us some things to think about and work with there. former u.s. attorney and federal prosecutor brett tollman in

"focus" now. people have cell phones now. if they don't have a security clearance to be carting stuff around for presidents, vice president, and senators and whoever gets the classified documents they can take a snap picture of that. if they are out there, they're really potentially out there now. what should the next steps in all of this look like? >> you are exactly right. it is like we're watching an episode waiting to see how a person will handle the situation. but all joking aside, it is unconscionable we have gotten to this place where principals that have clearance that are supposed to be reviewing documents in a secured compartmentized way are doing it in hap hazard fashion and to see some of these document might be top secret. the most classified documents we see in this country.

>> harris: are americans led to believe that nobody cares about our national security with this? this is really serious. and i don't have to tell you that. you and i talked recently about this top secret documents and that some of them have to do with foreign intelligence, with our enemies like china and iran. and at the time when ukraine was seeing an overthrow or change in government and having all sorts of problems, this current president's son was having some shady business dealings with ukrainian businesses and others in those countries i mentioned, particularly china. >> think about why a document gets labeled as top secret. a document that is top secret is not revealing the nuclear codes. instead what it is revealing is our methods and means and individuals that provide intelligence to our country. so it is a way for us to keep

secret and confidential the way in which we gather intelligence to help keep this country secure. so if you have hunter biden packing these around knowing where all these are, staying in the same place, documents that are in various locations, you not only have security breaches that we criminalize, you have breaches of our national security. >> harris: you could easily in someone's defense and curious to say what biden's attorneys say. outside of the people who moved stuff from the penn biden center. that could be anybody. it could be movers for all we know. outside of that were the high-dollar attorneys the president hired didn't first go to the national archive or d.o.j. and f.b.i. he had his own people get stuff. should we have any idea about privacy in the current way of living now? can't our officials keep

secrets? should they even be expected to? >> it's a great comment. it goes in line with the comment about the white house and how they will be viewing documents. it may be true that the president has folks that help collect and move documents and that he has document around him. that is because the white house has been designated as a scif. however, that does not apply to the vice president. it is very unusual for the vice president to have top secret classified documents that they can easily move. that's happened in this instance. we don't know if vice president pence has done it but we know president biden has. >> harris: the white house is a scif and the other day we saw -- do we have the picture of biden walking around the white house with a piece of paper that said the code was classified. that's how they walk around. and i don't know if your goal is to take classified information from the president, with a sign there you don't have to try very

hard. former assistant attorney andy mccarthy says this about the growing document scandal. >> it underscores that no one -- in the end no one will be indicted for this. >> harris: you say what? >> i think it is a box that merrick garland now is just wishing he could jump out of. and it is -- you can imagine the meetings being held in d.o.j. right now and just the sheer exasperation that's going on. >> harris: are you confident that we learn anything or something good comes out of this? >> i think we'll get different protocols and procedures especially for vice presidents and the president you may start to see there may be a check in and check out process now with classified documents. it should have been done if it wasn't. but i would expect we see that going forward. >> harris: before i let you go, code word classified document

vice president. that picture from 2013 is how you walk around the house -- the white house, considered a scif, but he is different. his situation with his son is different. we want to know where he had them in so many different locations and who had them in the meantime. that's a very different situation than what we've seen so far from pence and potentially there could be others as people check their closets and garages. >> that's right. it is the lack of transparency, the effort to keep it confidential. it leaks out. it is consistent with what others are pointing out about his papers, his senator papers in delaware that he has refused to allow the public to see what they are. i think there is probably a bigger problem with president biden than we all expect. >> harris: we'll work that into the next conversation. always a pleasure to have you in "focus." police groups are furious at president biden.

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>> harris: so we're just a few minutes away from police in florida potentially announcing a major break in the murder investigation, the murder of microsoft executive nearly one year ago now. they are picking it apart. jared bridegan, a father of four, was shot and killed in front of his toddler while pulled over on a road in north florida. phil keating live in miami. we're perched for the latest on this now moments away. >> absolutely.

the jacksonville beach police chief and state attorney are going to announce a significant development in this case and police this morning confirming to us that quote, an arrest is imminent. in their ongoing investigation of the murder of the microsoft executive has been unsolved for almost exactly one year. that will likely change at the press conference, which starts at the top of the hour. jared bridegan, software executive was gunned down in february last year in what appears to have been a pre-planned pre-staged ambush on a 1-way road in jacksonville beach. there was a tire lying in the road leading him to stop his car, move the tire out of the way and that's when the killer shot him repeatedly as his 2-year-old toddler was in the back seat of his car. bridegan had just dropped off his twins from his first marriage at their mother's house. ex wife, when the killing

happened. the ex wife and second husband have been considered suspects in the mysterious killing. shortly after ward jacksonville beach police put out the flyer of a dark f-150 pickup truck as a vehicle of interest in the case. for nearly a year no one has been arrested. gardner fernandez and bridegan were divorced but were fighting over finances and custody. shortly after the murder the ex-wife pulled their twins, nine at the time, out of their private school and then moved all the way across the country living in the tri-cities area of washington state. harris. >> harris: phil keating. thank you very much. fox news will be all over the story covering the breaking details we expect on top of the hour. president biden is taking some heat from law enforcement groups

today. he actually said -- actually tried to tell them how to do their jobs in this speech on friday. >> harris: when i was coming up as a kids cops, we learned to shoot to kill. you ought to be able to shoot to stop, you know. everything shouldn't be in the extreme. the way we train police officers is changing. there is a lot of things you can look at to determine whether or not you can effect the safety of your city. >> harris: the professionals responding now. former swat officer says quote, you have a split second to make a decision. if the suspect has the means to use deadly force the officer has every right to use deadly force to neutralize the situation. tyrus, fox news contributor. this one really, really bothers you. >> this is grossly irresponsible and negligent and borderline criminal. first of all even if you aren't a police officer, when you take gun training and learning to shoot a gun there is no chapter

on arms and legs. that is ridiculous. it is center. when a police officer used a gun it is because one, he is in fear of his life. two, in response to someone coming at him with deadly force. it is unbelievably irresponsible for the president to say that. at one time we used to consider the president of the united states the chief of police and the head policeman of the united states as free world as we know it. what woke moron wrote that for him saw a dumb movie saying shoot him in the leg. >> harris: not to mention the fact it isn't just the officer's own life in danger >> bill: imagine make a decision, make a decision. they are acting like police officers are like oh, okay, boom. no, it's like that. >> harris: okay.

several new house republicans have snubbed biden's invitation to a freshman welcome reception. it happened last night over the covid requirements. the event mandated all attendees to present a vaccine card or negative test for covid. at least four members called it a punitive policy. the white house fired back. >> we have protections in place to protect staff and the president of the united states. covid isn't over. we've been very clear about that. >> harris: we remember this real quick. >> president biden: the pandemic is over. we still have a problem with covid. we are still doing a lot of work on it. but the pandemic is over. >> harris: i see the press secretary going >> i'm glad they did this. they did it on purpose so the

republicans wouldn't go. when the president said the pandemic is over. when new republicans are coming in they all have to be tested. i wouldn't go. keep your party, i'm good. i'm fired up. >> harris: you are fired up. that's a good thing. i love it. look at you. you a ready that quick? good to see you. "outnumbered" after the break.

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♪ ♪ >> harris : you are watching outnumbered i am harris faulkner with my cohost emily campagno today, also carley shimkis, tammy bruce and former secretary of state mike pompeo, it is hot. let's get to it. the latest twist in the biden document scandal now could complicate the 2024 white house race after classified documents were found at the home of another potential presidential