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trying not to get hit. they are stonewalling reporters day after day. now the justice were dumb department is blocking the intelligence committee from accessing the documents found at both president biden's home and former president trumps properties. lawmakers from both sides of the aisle are going after that move. and they are not -- they are no warning, rather they will stop at nothing to get their hands on those documents so they can do their jobs properly. you know, investigate, watch. >> the members of congress have an absolute right to this information so we can make an informed judgment that the risk if and eight this document imposed by not being properly handled. >> how can we judge and to see if it is accurate or if there mitigation efforts are sufficient if we don't know what it is where the materials that were exposed potentially as? >> we are left in limbo until

somehow a special counsel designates it is okay for us to get briefed. is not going to stand. >> harris : is this how it normally goes, sean? are republicans looking for an exception or to get back to how it is supposed to go? >> sean: they try to get back how it supposed to go but you can see the way justice is treating the senate specifically the senate bear lake you don't matter, you can't see these documents, sit down and shut up and we will give them to you when we think you're ready for them. that is because the congress for decades has ceded more power and authority to the executive branch. and a second they can reclaim that and say listen, you will give them to us. >> harris : how to do that? >> sean: they will say if he don't give it to us we will slash your budget. we have the right to know what went wrong so if there is a problem we can legislate and fix it. if there is a many problem we can send more money to it if they don't know they can't fix the problems and they are the heart of where you fix that problem and intelligence. >> harris : wow.

does it tacitly bring to a halt things like the hunter biden investigation if you can't get your hands on the documents? >> sean: and they get shows if you can't get your hands on these documents for the bipartisanship you really can't get your hands on the hunter biden documents but also i think you want oversight of the fbi and doj and that will come if the senate has both parties have the documents from both trump and biden and they can look at how now the fbi and the doj are handling both cases. it will be bipartisan to make sure it is handled squarely and fairly. >> harris : so do you think this is political? >> kara: absolutely. it's indicative of that two-tiered suit stomach system of justice we see over and over again because we checked in the national archives have yet to comment on this, right? when trumped at it it was over and over and over again they made statement after statement. but here, we don't know what we don't know as the senator said. at the heritage foundation we are issuing we already had foyer

requests so we are trying to figure out okay, is this election interference by omission? because joe biden and the justice department new four days before it that this was the case that they were improperly handled and yet not a peep. so yeah, i think it is political and we have seen that by giving the comparison between trump and what is happening now. >> harris : let me follow-up you foyer for this information, i am just curious, do you get a no, a stall, was the response? >> kara: it depends. there are lawyers that know how to stall, conservatives as a conservative organization if they see what kind of answers we want they will go to technicalities, they will try to limit the information that we and the american people can see hopefully now that republicans have control over the house and that oversight capability is intensified, hopefully they will be pushed to give us some real information. >> harris : it's good to get that detail. >> emily: may i interject as well by law the government has to respond to these foyer

requests within i believe 30 days so immediately once you request that you get a form response. that form response always says okay, fine, we are on it, we may or may not find it, it may or may not be relevant and that is when the stonewalling begins. it can be after that moment which is when they are complying with the law but that takes up two years, frankly. we have seen years for good working people that are waiting for foyer documents. >> harris : wouldn't that be conveyed and if you're thought was to run for president? [laughter] >> dagen: the it is not right versus left it's not republican versus democrat's people in powr versus eveready else. this is something national review and jim gertie have talked about and i talked about with sean on our brand-new show "the bottom line" we will talk about that as well. by bill clinton's former national security advisor sandy berger who took documents out of the archives including those in his socks, he noticed punishments was customer $10,000

fine. he had to relinquish his security clearance for three years and you can go through a long list of people who are in prison for a few months or even years. won that special counsel her prosecuted who was imprisoned for nine years for taking documents home, even though they were never released or sold to anybody else. so, again, the people who are reckless with these documents, there is no punishment starting with the hillary clinton president. secondly, andy mccarthy said this yesterday to us, sean, that he is troubled with for national security purposes when a document that is top-secret goes missing, or even if you have to wonder who saw it because it was in a place that wasn't supposed to be, they, justice, is supposed to do in intelligence damage assessment immediately to find of the sources of compromised or methods that are

compromised. i don't see any evidence andy mccarthy said they have done it with respect to biden, but they screamed and yelled, my words, hollered to high heavens about trump. they went to court, justice did, to demand access to the documents for trump to do a damage assessment. and they haven't done charcoal apparently with the biden documents. why not? >> harris : that is really critical. out of all the documents, and we do know they have 1,850 boxes. we don't know classifieds are among them but they belong to joe biden at the university of delaware. you know there is so much more out there just in that location that they could go search. but when you look at what we know about the classified documents, and we don't know a lot, it does strike me that we know this. we know that some of them were top-secret from that first batch found at the penn biden center. because it he got paid almost a million put his name on that. that's where he sent his personal attorney's first to get

stuff. anyone seeing more than just special timing of their arrival on november 2nd 6 days before an election november 8th, the midterms? >> sean: i think of it goes back to the archives ending the archives were freaked out saying oh, my goodness the republicans will win the majority and we just went after donald trump, we better check and see what joe biden has come what does anyone else have an oh, my goodness we may have other documents out there we better get on the ball. can i make a point in regards to these centers? they've never been vice president or president so they don't know how classified documents work in the white house. but they do know how classified documents work in the capital. we all know how every document is numbered and you get a packet, you check the packet back in with the overseers of classified information when you leave the building, and if you are missing a page they freak out. they will know within hours if not one day. so they are like we could never take a document out. how in the heck to joe biden get not just one document but more

than one document? >> harris : let me clarify too or add to this, the first batch i talked about that had the top-secret's, we don't know if those in fact dated back to his time of the senate. but we do know what you are talking about, the ones they further found i think on the second search at the house? right? in wilmington, delaware, that there were classified documents from the time he was a senator. senator rick scott to me last hour if there were any top-secret's there you definitely couldn't get out of the skiff with those. so we don't know we had. >> that is the mystery and that's why the senators, this mystery needs to be resolved. that's why we need all of this information and we will not stop until we get it. >> harris : remind us how this compares with trump because people get caught up on it and you been on capitol hill. >> sean: there is no distinction between the two unless donald trump actually declassified the documents which he said i had the power to declassify is the present, i am entitled to these documents, i can have the. joe biden never had that power.

but if donald trump did not declassify the document and had them come he is just as guilty as mike pence and joe biden. >> harris : so we know job that obama had 113526 trying to change how things were classified not to get into the weeds biden could have declassified based on what obama did. what is your take? >> sean: he cannot declassify come only obama can because he is the president. joe biden could not have declassified those when he was vice president and for sure he could not have declassified documents when he was a senator. so he is double dinged. >> harris : striking back after losing his position taking two tiktok of all places to call out republicans and apparently not realizing there is a little bit of irony there like china, our enemy, intel, that is supposed to be your specialty, we will be back.

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>> emily: democrats bound to strike back after getting kicked off of key committees. house speaker kevin mccarthy made good on his promise to block some controversial democrats from those positions. including schiff siting concerns and lowers later he took to tiktok tied closely to the chinese communist party and kids to denounce the move and ask for donations. >> kevin mccarthy moved me from the house intelligence committee for doing my job, for holding tropic stomach trump accountable and holding up to the extreme maga republican spirit we know will be better when they took over but it's worth some expected i can promise you this, this is not the end of my fight for our

democracy, this is just the beginning. >> emily: thanks goodness for that. the irony of all of this was not lost on his critics pointing out that apparent hypocrisy of complaining about losing access to sensitive intelligence data on tiktok, an apple banned in dozens of states on government devices over spyware concerns. and yesterday former secretary of state mike pompeo made this revelation about schiff here on out numbered. >> adam schiff lied to the american people and during my time as director secretary of state i know he leaked classified information that was provided to him. the fact adam schiff was chairman of the house of committee almost ruined the committee, it serves an incredibly important function for the american people, speaker mccarthy got this one exactly right. adam schiff should be nowhere near serving on a children's committee. i don't think he should be seeing classified information. >> emily: john duffy, so much there. >> sean: so much there. first off i think kevin mccarthy only got a partially

right. i don't like tit for tat and i don't think nancy pelosi took them off all committees she also took jim jordan and jim banks off of the russia collusion hoax committee, kevin mccarthy should respond because you can't serve on the intelligence committee, frankly shouldn't serve on any committee in the house but kevin mccarthy was nicer than i was and said you just can't serve on the intelligence committee and mike pompeo was right to say you know what? used information no one else has that is a secret to you and to use that, leverage it to lied to the american people, you've abused your power, you have no place to now serve in this committee. by the way adam schiff saying i'm just doing my job, lying to the america people is not your job, adam. it is so rich that he is on tiktok. >> harris : i mean come on. be one i want to dig in, when you say tit for tat what about the counter argument this is not

tit for tat because this is responding to adam schiff's lies and his inability to be trusted in an intelligence position, why is it not simply responding to his lack of character in that way rather than playing upon game for optics? >> sean: would come up, kevin mccarthy is saying is right he is an intelligence risk we can't have them on this committee. we can't play by a separate set of rules where democrats are taking republicans off committees republicans get power and they say well, hold on a second, that's not nice, we will let all democrats serve on committees and we won't take them off. you have to play by the same rules. if democrats go in the mud, i don't like it, but yet to follow them or you can't win. you will lose. that was my point on that. but mccarthy is right on intelligence with schiff and swallsend.>> emily: i think ames feel relief when this was made public at this point thank goodness speaker mccarthy made good on that.

>> dagen: that tiktok bullschiff showed the american people why he needed to be kicked off the intelligence committee and why he deserved to be kicked off the intelligence committee. and he doesn't even know he's doing it. >> harris : 100%. >> dagen: that is essentially chinese spyware that less than a month ago was banned by congress by the democrats signed by joe biden for being used on government devices. and he goes on tiktok to complain about republicans. so i am assuming that was maybe not a government device he did that, and is going to. i'm sure he doesn't even know i sure he didn't even know and lying to american people even after the mueller report, he went on tv and said it was in

plain sight, trumps collusion with russia. after the mueller report. and then you've got swalwel hooked up with a chinese spy diluted with his own handsomeness i suppose. now he has plenty of time on his hands to go out and knock it honey pot honey smeared? and honey dipped and honey rolled but he is not going to be an intelligence risk to the american people anymore and bullschiff won't be either. >> emily: what you think about the editorial which is what if all we did with speaker mccarthy was placed adam schiff in a potential position to succeed dianne feinstein, a senator from california and potentially a committee position which may be far more risky to american national security? >> kara: you are right that

would be entirely problematic we know that she is also in the ccp's pocket, her driver was employed by the ccp for years and years and years. so it's the china question we want to keep adam schiff as far away from those corners of power making those decisions as possible. like you said, it is a judgment issue. when you talk about tiktok, you are a guinea pig. if you are on tiktok and if your kids are on tiktok you're a guinea pig for the chinese communist party. they have access to the data, chinese engineers have proven they have access of that data through parent company and have spied on multiple journalists as well come they've used it as the surveillance tool that it is, so i think americans need to generally exercise better judgment which means keeping adam schiff away, not playing by the rules that republicans always played by while the democrats are as you said in the mud so keep adam schiff away, stop minting eric swalwell's every day with this espionage tool close to blackmail because china is playing the long game and that's what you have to do.

>> emily: quick follow-up, sean come on behalf of the american people do you think adam schiff is truly that tone-deaf? this was his first tiktok video, remember, or is he doing it purposefully to ground digs at the republican party who have been so the syphilis about the national security concerns with tiktok and the like? >> sean: he is tone-deaf. he does not get the humor he is using a chinese app you talk to the american people by the way he would trick michael were raise a bunch of money due member marjorie? she raised the most money of any number congress outside of leadership because she was kicked off. this will be good for schiff but it's good for america he is not there. >> harris : you know what, elon musk took away the megaphone. didn't he? and adam schiff is on tiktok and doesn't understand as you said he is owning himself because of the china, the china spyware. but he is also owning himself in this way. 24 states as of the middle of this month had also banned, maybe he's not paying any

attention to what is going on capitol hill which is troubling. if he wants to be on the intel committee. but it's also troubling he is so out of touch with the american people and states. how do you live in america and not know tiktok is at the heart of what people are blocking? >> sean: there is a federal ban as well. >> kara: that they voted for. >> who knows that he read it? >> emily: i'm sure he didn't. he's deafly not earning his paycheck that way but he is in touch at least for the mic with the 13-year-olds or whatever. coming up senator jack holly had introduced a bill to stop members of congress and their spouses from profiting off stock trades. and its title is a dig at nancy pelosi. more on that great bill next. ♪ ♪ back... inflammation might be to blame.

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>> harris : it is coming, a judge in california ordered the release of the body camera footage from the october hammer attack on paul pelosi, the husband of former house speaker at nancy pelosi. we are told a decision on when that will actually happen that we will see the video be released could take some time. maybe sometime today, the judge said immediately when this was announced yesterday. we will bring you that as soon as we get it in. meanwhile, republican senator josh hawley made a not-so-subtle dig at the pelosis with the new bill called the "preventing elected leaders from owning securities and investments" act or the pelosi act for short. the bill would ban members of congress and their spouses from trading and owning stocks and it comes after revelations of course that last year the paul pelosi traded between 1000000-$5 million of stocks for semiconductors just days before

congress allocated $52 million to the same industry. the sock stocks were later solda loss to erase impropriety. but you can't lose foul erase the facts. >> kara: during to the antitrust lawsuit against google that was just announced? they traded google stocks. it makes sense like dan crenshaw said you want to better yourself and grow your portfolio, but at the same time what happened to selfless service? trump left office a poorer man then when he went into the office of the presidency, yet we are seeing some in congress members leaving with gobs and gobs of wealth. i mean in my estimation i think that is not the selfless servant leaders that america's founded on paris must be farmers and citizens first not looking to engorge ourselves with bigger and bigger gobs of money. >> do think we have enough transparency? a lot of times what care is talking about is you find out after what they were training is this about transparency or is it

really needing the legislation holly from missouri? >> dagen: knew they need to ban trading of individual stocks futures options anything traded on inside information and i say that because i have been a financial journalist almost 30 years and i have never, ever owned an individual stocks. i have owned mutual funds or exchange traded funds. you can make perfectly decent investments and you can remove any appearance of impropriety by not owning individual stocks. i did that by choice because i didn't want it. i didn't want to look bad. they don't give a flying flip. it needs to be forced down their throats. >> harris : helper safe dell my pervasive business on capitol hill? >> sean: i cannot agree with that more. most numbers of congress do not

have what the pelosi's had with gobs of money by the way and never figured out how to do that because i was pouring congress. >> harris : you also have 99 children. >> sean: that too. thank you. but cash wise i can't figure i had to do it. but you shouldn't have to pay a price to serve in congress. these people have two homes and make hundred $74,000 a year, let them trade stocks, let them trade futures if you do, the concept. >> harris : what are the consequences? we need a speaker of the house was so one the consequences? >> sean: a goes to dagan's point if you are the elite rules don't apply to you. >> harris : take it away. why not take it away? >> sean: or prosecutor. >> harris : that's not going to happen. they will not prosecute an 80 something-year-old woman at this point. >> sean: they should. >> harris : god bless her eye want to live long too but they've been making money forever, this isn't breaking news.

>> sean: but we passed laws and make things illegal and have penalties for them for a reason. they should apply to everyone. the nancy pelosi's of the world to not be excluded from that so we are creating new laws. >> harris : i feel like i am on your show sitting between you and dagan. he was throwing his brow at me. way said about mutual funds it's a conglomerate of things nobody really gets a tip on any one thing. so why not do that? >> dagen: it's not a hardship. [laughter] >> harris : this is a happy place right now. >> dagen: you don't get to speculate is what it is. and if that is such a hardship on you, nancy, and your husband then leave. >> sean: most members of congress only have a little bit of money and their trading if you stocks here and there having fun and they are not using information.

>> harris : -- >> emily: the average member has five to $6,000 worth of stock in contrast to her husband that has $500,000 worth of stock very remember before you at a hearing a congressional subsidy hearing and he bought multimillion dollar purchases at the time and we were told to assuage the appearance for optics essentially he was caught and they cared more about presentation than about the service and the servitude of their position. so i think where this bill navigates that line between being a servant and also allowing congressmen to take part in capitalism is that six month mark and i think that's the important thing because bottom line, the pelosi pluralists have benefited time and time again that, purchases, representative commerce at its another bad example of nancy pelosi's leadership comments on the first time her husband has done this. he it repeatedly and he says it

is not about just that desperate part i said about the difference on the cost but the fact they continue to do it. you make a huge profit if you know the stock will move and he said this is another example of the media turning a blind eye to nancy pelosi bad behavior and unethical behaviors or to your point, harris when you say they won't prosecute an 80-year-old and you say you should that's instantly right. if someone is breaking the law it doesn't matter how old they are, but the media is who has been complicit because they have normalized these guys and gorging themselves. >> harris : and the reason i pointed out she is an octogenarian is how long they've been doing this. if anyone thinks you and your spouse when your spouse does something doesn't touch you then she ought to really make that point very, very clear. because for all the reasons both of you just enumerated, it looks like there's something unfair going on. that ought to be enough for her to come forward. >> dagen: how about people in leadership? >> sean: find.

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he one now america's crime crisis new york city's police officer struggling to grapple what they call it deficient juvenile justice system, "the new york post" out with this covered teenage wasteland, authorities called the post the states raised at the age statutes is the reason for the declining number of arrests and its slap on the wrist punishments for juveniles. while those numbers have gone down, the number of underage murder suspects have done. doubling in recent years. the crisis is not just in new york, "wall street journal" article saying it's nation wide violence among children has risen since 2020 since the

decades long decline, dagan we have talked extensively about this, multiple factors have contributed to this most of them within the criminal justice reform arena periods before this can be traced right back to former governor andy cuomo. he signed in 2017 the raise the age law. it up to the age for a teenager to face adult charges to 16 from the previous 16 and 17 euro threshold. major crimes, what that did, it kept these kids in juvenile court. now they face friendly her treatment as juveniles for very serious crimes. these records are kept under seal, the sentences are extremely light and it has created incredible recidivism among teenagers. so that is why you see the number of underage murder suspects doubling. because this crime is now

rampant. because these kids are kept on the street to assault and assault again and assault again and rob and eventually it leads to murder. and even people in criminal justice, d. das are concerned ad people in the city and elsewhere will end up protecting themselves. >> harris : we talked about that. this is so troubling as a parent of teenagers because you realize there are certain kids out there that are not getting the messaging our kids are getting. primarily because there is nobody at home. and it used to be that you, you know, you had somebody there but they were on lock down for a year or so, now they are out and they are the youngest, cartels will target them, don't think cartels are not here, stop being naive mr. biden. gangs will target them more, oh, my gosh, that's a 13-year-old,

we can use that person over and over and over again because they will let that kid go. in the meantime, you are turning a 13-year-old into a hardened criminal. i would have to imagine that it's like a gateway to more crime they will commit that is much more violent because they are used to it. >> sean: it's a gateway to a life time in prison this is a cultural and parenting problem to your point, harris, and wisconsin i think we were able to waive kids into adulthood at 13 years old, if you commit a murder at 13 or 14 you should be in adult court and go to prison for very long time and again to dagan's point yet change the laws and hold them accountable. you can't have it get out of jail free card because were 17 years old. >> emily: and you said waive one of the courts issues as removing discretion on behalf of the judge. so when you prescribed by law and inability to waive, and inability to assess each case individually and say we are calling this person a child, however they brutally disfigured, stabbed, dismembered, and raped to death

this victim we will try to him in adult court. when you remove the ability to do so that leads to all the results we are talking about. >> kara: in the meantime outlook not so good because we know through heritage analysis the 27 out of 30 of the most violent cities in america today are run by democratic mayors and these are the purveyors of the soft-on-crime policies so i'm not looking forward to it. >> harris : or governors, andy cuomo i still point my finger at that ghoul. >> harris : i didn't know what you were going to. >> emily: to an update on our friend benjamin hall who was severely injured last march covering the war in ukraine. he and his crew were hit by russian drone strike killing his cameraman and a fellow journalist. benn is now telling his story in a new memoir titled "saved" a war reporter's mission to make it home. he appeared on "fox & friends" this morning and spoke about the fight to survive his horrific

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next? is there any limit to what the u.s. will give zelinski? senator john roscoe franzen and i will see with the top of the hour for america reports. >> emily: welcome back, jane fonda is stirring up controversy again. the actress who became known as hanoi jane for her antimilitary activism is citing her sights on the apartment crisis. during her appearance on "the kelly clarkson show" she likes it or racism. watch. >> for me it was learning about the vietnam war. when i really understood what that was about i couldn't not come i couldn't do anything but be in the movement to stop. sexism, massages and some, racism, the war, if you really , everything is connected.

there being no climate crisis if it wasn't for racism. where would they put the poison and pollution? not in bel air. there to put somewhere where poor people or indigenous people or people of color are living, put it there, they can't fight back. that is why a big part of the climate movement now has to do with climate justice. >> emily: your thoughts? >> kara: this is another avenue to shame people into submission. accuse them of whatever ism and we've already seen the policies wreaking havoc on the american economy in the hopes of making this green new deal paradise, it is a hellscape with the keystone pipeline which has tangible effect on their lives while she sits in bel air i'm surprised she even invoked that because it's a matter of have and have not end jane fonda is just trying to shame people into this ideology that she is never going to face the consequences of it

whatsoever. >> emily: one can argue the best way to lift all boats is to stir up a robust economy which in part has to do with policies that support capitalism that support entrepreneurialism, that do not increase regulations, exactly that the prior administration emphasized that community she was talking about thrived under. >> sean: you think she would know that but everything this is a leftist socialist marxist movement and she is all of those things. she can look at the global warming movement and say if we can get all americans to buy into it and use racism to do it we will be part of this great transformation of america into something that has been great to something barack obama and vision which is i don't know what. >> emily: harris rumor when we learned there is a humongous multithousand dollar grant i was given to the department of defense, one of those issues for which was climate justice, which was really difficult for people to define, let alone for our tax dollars to justifiably go to? >> harris : she didn't define it there, that's for certain. she didn't really define much.

look, i don't know that anyone is listening to jane fonda tell them how to live correctly when it comes to racism or any other thing. she has on tom brady's jersey because we she has the new movie coming out which looks hilarious by the way. what she has been doing the last year, and i wholeheartedly hope she is healing, is fighting off not hodgkin's lymphoma which she said was very treatable and that was just september of last year so she has some things and with the climate change on the racism in all of that stuff she says is interconnected coming from her, i don't think that is her role. she can step out of her lane if she wants. >> emily: there is room in a common sense lane for sure. dagen to harris' point when we are hearing someone representing hollywood saying things that are not defined and are frankly nebulous it is difficult to have action items. all the people taking influence

in that way from a celebrity in hollywood, they are sort of left being like okay, what does that mean, now what? there are no action items that actually help the citizen-ry. >> dagen: she seems to be confusing climate change with pollution. if she's really worried about pollution she wouldn't be pushing electric vehicles and the pollution caused with mining for the elements and minerals needed to make batteries. her cancer, her non-hodgkin's lymphoma is in remission. >> harris : thank goodness. >> dagen: god bless on that. my father's best friend, colonel jean smith at age 22, flew helicopters in vietnam. and the first cavalry airmobile, first of the ninth. so to all of them and he just died recently. rest in peace, jean, to him and all of the vietnam veterans.

hanoi jane is a disgrace to the united states of america that she would go into north korea -- north vietnam and sit on that antiacademic aircraft gun, she is a disgrace. she is the original nap oh baby, the nepotism baby who would never have a career if not the name fonda and we would not be g about her today if she was not n into an acting family and i don't say that with humor, i say it with complete disdain and complete derision, go away, jane fonda. can you just retire? >> emily: more "outnumbered" in just a moment. ♪ i'm never going to not ♪ ♪ dance again ♪ ♪ i'm never going to not dance montagain ♪ i just --

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>> last but not least, dagen and sean's schedule got a little more packed if that's possible. they launched a new show on fox business, it's called "the bottom line with dagen and duffy." it airs weekdays from 6 to 7:00 p.m. eastern. make sure you are tuning in every single weekday because it is fabulous. are you having fun? >> yes. >> are you having fun? >> having a blast, yes, i am. >> i got a taste of it right here. >> so, we worked a little together over the course of the years i've been at fox, and when i was in congress she would interview me, she was tough on me in congress. we are having a blast, almost like, you know, we spend a lot of time together now. >> you were tough on each other today. >> can we say who we have on tonight? >> i would hope you do. >> tucker.

>> tucker is joining us, yes. >> tucker carlson. >> yeah, yeah, with d and d, about his new special, sam bankman freed. a few seconds, set your dvr if you can be in position you are not watching us live. "america reports" now. >> i could see mr. murdaugh down at the end of the driveway. as i approached toward him i could see the male victim laying on the ground to my left as well as the female victim on the ground to my right. his immediate reaction was to start telling me about an incident that happened with his son, with a boating accident. >> john: fox news alert, a break in the alec murdaugh trial, a jury deciding whether the disgraced south carolina attorney murdered his wife and son, are shown dramatic