♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> ainsley: there is jacksonville, florida, what a beautiful shot, brian have a different of the bridge? >> brian: yes to get to the jags are game i went to go weeks ago you drive into the city and you can see the brand-new facility of four seasons building up the docs. the jaguars, is there a team with a brighter future than t

them? there's really trying to rebuild that city. also wk b a shout out to them our local jacksonville affiliate they do a great job. >> ainsley: jacksonville is beautiful. >> brian: i talked more than you did. >> ainsley: while you had the open at 6:00 with the snow. i talked a lot. i love snow and he loves jacksonville. it's a big deal for brian. neptune beach have ever been there? we used to go on college. such a cool little town. >> brian: i graduated from college and i still go there. i haven't outgrown it. >> ainsley: i'll meet you there one day because it's so cute it's on the beach and obviously neptune beach. there are little restaurants. >> brian: it's fantastic. >> ainsley: it's great. >> brian: 's one of those places you take an uber or a bike and do you make sure you visit all the bars. >> ainsley: and you can walk if you are staying in neptune beach opening is walkable you don't even need a bike. >> brian: enters a margaritaville.

>> ainsley: there is a margaritaville or? >> brian: yes. >> ainsley: there is one in key west i been about one before. >> brian: i think they started there and decided this could be a franchise. >> will: have a margarita, get your friday morning started early it's the weekend. a little bit earlier in the show brian you were talking about joe biden spending so much time and energy these days still talking about donald trump. still talking about "maga republicans." present biden is promising everything the republican lead will do he will be told. >> this is a rogue imparting a different breed of cat as they say. that's why the maga republicans want to inflict this pain on the american people, why? they are chaos and catastrophe. it will eliminate the irs and eliminated completely and the only guys that will look at the complicated tax returns the people have. and replace the irs which would

be nice, no taxes, right? except with a 30% national sales tax. let me be clear. if any of these bills somehow got past the house and the senate i will veto them. >> brian: he whispered come that means he's serious. the worst magic trick has been projection. i come to believe whatever you are accused of is the thing the accuser is committing. accuse someone of racism and you are probably harboring some very deep, ugly thoughts. perhaps experiences in your past. here joe biden says republicans are the agents of chaos and catastrophe after we have seen over the last two years those exact adjectives to describe with perfection what is happening in america's southern border. what happened with kobe cove response. chaos and catastrophe has been the outcome of policies for mike two years and it's so rich to hear him now describe a just inaugurated, just have taken the

oath of a bunch of house republicans as agents of chaos and destruction. >> ainsley: and our country is not going in the right direction, is a question mark from border to interest rates to gas prices to crime, crime is a big one. >> brian: energy. >> ainsley: we are not energy independent anymore. >> brian: a couple things stand out with that. he feels he has a positive economic story to tell. you think you would use it positively and if everyone keeps on labeling him as a uniter this would be the time two months after the election go out there and say have got good numbers here is what i'm going to say but instead the majority of the time he was acting like he was auditioning for vince mcmahon's wwe just painting these broad and accurate strokes cartoonist strokes i could borrow your word about what exactly the republican party is and because one congressman brought up a flat tax which is worthy of debate because we are paying if you flip over the back of your check we get direct deposits now.

i think most of us to. no one sees how much is coming out, you are giving up six out of every $10 that you make. a lot of people are saying it get so complicated because these horrible rich people and i'm being sarcastic have a way to work the tax system where they buy assets and sell assets at the right time for the right amount they talk about flat tax which doesn't make them evil but wipes out the irs instead of adding 87,000 more agents to. instead he looks at one congressman says that is the republic and party. >> will: he's saying it's chaos for one congressman to say let's look at reforming our tax structure and reducing impact of the irs. i guess in him in position that of the democratic party as we are the party of the irs of big pharma of washington, d.c., bureaucracy of status quo. don't dare debate a disruption to the status quo. >> brian: bai '23 social security is broken you can ignore it and wait for someone to touch it and say

they'll hate old people and a paul rancheros own off a cliff which has been devastating. >> ainsley: number in 2007 if you went to dinner with your friends there were three people in the table that lost their jobs. 70 people are waiting for their pink slips with these big corporations that dominate america are now saying they'll be laying off thousands of individuals. we are seeing that with electronics but now we are also seeing that with companies like 3m who make scotch tape, are post-it notes, we are also seeing it with hasbro who make our children's toys they are cutting 50% of the workforce. bed bath & beyond doesn't even have the money to pay back their banks. they owe 550 million allegedly to jpmorgan chase, $375 million to the facility provided by the sixth street partners. in one article i read they owe $1 billion. lift major layoffs, amazon freezing corporate hiring for months. we saw that with google and with

microsoft so let's look at all these companies on your screen we interviewed bob nardelli who is the former ceo of chrysler and home depot and he talked about how joe biden's decisions are impacting all of these companies. speak of the fact-checkers had a holiday yesterday didn't they? but after some of his state when did we ever think amazon would lay 18,000 people off? i can tell you dealing with a lot of lower/middle market companies, this rules down and we are seeing the same percentage, not as big of a number, but the same percentage on these lower middle market companies. they are all being affected by one of the first decisions as president made when he was in office. that is the effect on the energy policy. we were energy independent and he surrendered our position. >> brian: there are three things that would make this president on re-electable. the border from afghanistan, and energy. all against our interests for

special interest or his philosophy, not telling the truth about it, tapping into our oil reserve as we talk to people in alaska, we used to get 2 million barrels through the alaskan pipeline. into our country. now we get printer 50,000. this is all intentional to wind us down and transition us to a green energy which we clearly are not ready for. so those are the issues, we will see if he goes ahead and says i want four more years but i just didn't think yesterday in virginia was his time to bring up donald trump. >> ainsley: and how great our economy is. there is a hip-hop artist named azalea banks and she has recently relocated to miami. she used to live in l.a. where she said she didn't feel safe, she felt like she had to carry a gun there or needed to carry a gun there to be safe and she had this wide-ranging interview with the guardian. she said the media is chastising

her new governor, ron desantis and she just moved to florida and demonizing him but she said she was praising him because she feels way safer in florida. >> will: she said in fact to the guardian in florida people mind their effingham business. thanks feels the media lies about the often mocked republican media and she feels safer there than she did in los angeles where she feels like she needs a gun. part of that she claims is down to the governor, ron desantis. so here you have a celebrity doing something that is not usually done by celebrities which is praise a republican. to me shoot dell and we talked about this earlier this shows ay to break through. and reality is breaking through people are moving with their feet and voting with their feet, california to texas, new york to florida. they are choosing a butter reality. and the question is when the fake reality describes for people in narratives like she says that often mocked republican state of florida,

when that changes, when the narrative begins to reflect reality. >> brian: put it this way they still have that house with democrats. if they have a governor in california that knew the crime mattered because you see all of those seats that flipped in california and in new york. kathy hochul had to blitz the last ten days to hold off lee zeldin on one issue, crime. they would not own up to it, they would not say their policies are the problem, unwillingness to change or react in the issue and they really lost the house because of it. i'm not saying that for me, that is from nancy pelosi. she said the same thing and by the way, a quick note on ron desantis, at the last minute he has thrown his political weight with harmeet dhillon as they decide who the next leader of the rmc is. >> ainsley: but he wants ronald mcdaniel. they are running against ronna mcdaniel who had that posed her fourth time if she wins and harmeet dhillon who we have in our show often and mike lindell from my pillow. so that vote is taking place

today, right? so we will see who is going to be the head of the rnc. >> will: one more note on this, there was a poll out from potential new hampshire voters on joe biden or to include joe biden who is the favorite for democratic candidate for president 2024? biden came and i believe second or third. bhupete buttigieg came in second and he would have to make an argument that overcomes people like azalea banks. yes we explain that running a state into the ground essentially ruining the pacific ocean, i mean what better natural asset you have to keep your people in your state but hey, look, the pacific ocean. people go no, i'm good. i'm moving to north texas. he has ruined that in crime and people leaving and that is his argument. >> ainsley: when you think of florida don't you think of freedom when it comes to

covid-19, when it comes to her parents get to teach their children instead of what the school district thinks or what the school union think? and also no state taxes. so it's less-expensive to live there. that's why so may people flock to florida. >> brian: 11 minutes after the hour, i had mike rowe will join us and talk about whatever he wants. >> ainsley: and san diego's homeless population has a record high for the fifth month in a row, lawrence jones got a firsthand look at the crisis and will join us on the curvy couch, hey, lawrence! ♪ ♪ by cardiologists. it was proven superior at helping people stay alive and out of the hospital. don't take entresto if pregnant; it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. don't take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren,

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>> ainsley: cities across the united states are bracing for the release of the police body cam footage of the traffic stop in memphis that led to the death of 29-year-old tyree nichols. >> will: from atlanta to los angeles they are on high alert as nichols mother asks to remain peaceful. >> brian: charles has the details, charles. >> good morning steve, brian, and ainsley. we are learning that four of the five memphis police officers are out of jail on bonds after being charged with murder in the death of 29-year-old tyree nichols. as we speak dimitri salie is the only one who remains behind bars on the $150,000 bond and while attorneys for mark four of the man say they appreciate how law enforcement cooperated with them and allowing them to turn themselves in safely they say even they haven't gotten this chance to view the body cam video in question. >> at this point we don't know

what proof they had. we have not seen come we have not discovered, we have not seen the video. we are kind of in the blind right now. >> and that video is expected to be released as early as this evening, grand jury indicted the men on several charges including second-degree murder, aggravated assault, aggravated kidnapping, official misconduct and official oppression. the men are accused of beating nichols so badly during a traffic stop that he was left unrecognizable. nichols ended up in hospital on january 7th and died three days later. last night the community held a vigil for the 29-year-old come his parents were there as well. >> i want each and every one of you to protest in peace. i don't want us burning up our cities, tearing up the streets, because that's not what my son

stood for. >> we are expected to hear similar messages this morning as we expect to hear from the family of nickels and their attorneys, guys. >> ainsley: thank you, charles. let's bring in lawrence jones to react to this comment lawrence to? >> lawrence: good morning. >> ainsley: good morning. tonight they're going to release his body, the mom saying please if you protest protest peacefully. do think that will happen? >> lawrence: i think you know when people see the video, if it's as bad as they say it is and the fact that these cops are now on bond i think some of the activists will be out on the street. i'm on standby to dupe coverage with sean hannity tonight which shows you what we are bracing for. look, you all know me i am not a big fan of politicians but i do know bill would the governor of tennessee i find them to be an honorable man, he is not a woke wo, i sawhim get grilled by then

memphis, tennessee, and if he can take it from them i know this is a guy who will be honorable. if this tennessee bureau of investigation say this video is bad i believe the governor that it's bad. what happened to lead up to that i'm not sure. but if the tennessee bureau of investigation bill lee put the stamp on this to say these officers were in the wrong and to charge them with murder, i think we should be bracing for the worst tonight. >> brian: me the video they might even have iphone video as well as body cam video. >> lawrence: is important to note they have dropped and put these charges up before the video even came out. a lot of times we cda's and governors because of the political pressure will react to the reaction and you see some of those charges being reversed in the end. or downgraded. they did this before the video was out. i don't think it is smart to release the video tonight. go ahead and release it this morning so we can have infrastructure put in place bringing that national guard and

cities because we don't want a repeat of the floyd situation. >> ainsley: do even know what happened? >> lawrence: we have no information of what led up to the traffic stop, what happened during the traffic stop, we know there was a traffic stop and we see the end result of that photo right there. >> brian: they say pulled over for reckless driving nichols ran away from police on foot he gets pursued, and then we hear a lot of the cops. we did get the audio of the cop saying we are running, we are running, we are running and he's fighting and he's fighting. >> lawrence: these cops according to the report were also part of a special unit as well. there is an investigation right now to see did they know mr. nichols before this traffic stop? this is all speculation we have to get all the facts before coming to judgment but i will say having these individuals come out and the law enforcement of the tennessee bureau of

investigation cops cops, one cop told me off the record this is one of the worst she's ever seen before. so i want to see the video for myself. >> will: the number of homeless in san diego hit a record peak, this is a me you've been taking at, let's watch a clip i believe will be on. >> lawrence: i'm just the chocolate p. >> will: i called you p? i did? >> lawrence: on the chocolate p. >> will: when you say something subconsciously that the response i'm the chocolate p i'm like i have no idea what happened here. >> brian: let's regroup and refocus but here's the clip of homeless in san diego. >> there'll be a food kitchen, mess hall, women's center, storage facility, there will be a dog pound, gardening, all of the things that are needed but the whole idea here is to centralize the homeless all providers are there to help them get out of here to where they

need to be periods >> lawrence: there is a real crisis going on in san diego, there has been years since i've been back, it is worse than skid row. the thing that hit me the most is the amount of young people there now. you have kids that have been there since they were 15 and 16 years old. but there is feces everywhere, they are choosing to live out there, there are resources, health care on the street so this is the idea, you know knowledge travels with me everywhere now. i felt so bad i kept lifting her up off the ground. >> will: your dog. >> lawrence: yes because it was gross. i wouldn't have her step on it because i wouldn't step on it. >> ainsley: the numbers have gone up every month they did numbers from september october november december. >> will: i'm sure you'll be all over both stories. >> ainsley: brian comes on at 9:00. >> lawrence: will bond gino than me. >> will: we will see you.

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>> will: six witnesses took the stand in the double murder trial of alex murdaugh when he discovered the victims of the crime scene. >> as you approached and first saw the male victim and the female victim what was your assessment? was there any possible signs of life? >> my assessment was there was not. there appeared to be a large amount of blood around each of them as well as brain matter. >> did you ever see any tears or physical tiers? >> i did not. >> will: joining us now host of sunday night an american author of a new book which we would get to them just a minute trey gowdy, trey, great to see you. as i look at those clips i don't know how relative tears are to the potential guilt of a suspect, but what did stick out

to you as relevant in the first moments of the trial? >> you know, all of these are really two trials in one. the trial against the defendant and then the trial against the police. so what i am judging is how good are the prosecutors at anticipating what the defense cross is going to be, you know jory is not an expert in crime scene analysis. you and i, well, we know the first responding officer does not process the crime scene. he doesn't take fingerprints. he doesn't do dna analysis. he is the responding officer. the jury doesn't know that. i'm sitting here wishing the prosecution had done a better job of anticipating what the cross would have been. remorse, you better be really careful with her because different people react differently. if the best thing you have in your parts if you could share kitchen case is that the person didn't cry then you don't have great evidence. >> will: yeah, that seems really tenuous to me as well.

i think you're pointing out the attempt to say the police here did not handle the crime scene correctly and somehow planting reasonable doubt here for murdaugh. tres, i am excited about this for i don't know because i'm super into self-improvement in some way, but your book seems to be -- >> you're doing pretty good. >> will: we could talk privately, you know we will talk in long form on the will cain podcast because i need to make decisions in your new book "start, stay, or leave" is a process on how to go about decision-making, tell me about it. >> i mean we only get one shot at this gift called life. and life consists of the decisions we make. often to start something, do i leave something, do i stay with something? you mentioned the court room i spent two decades in the courtroom which is the job i hope people judge my life by. i loved it but yet, will, i had to leave. sometimes living a job is not enough. sometimes the cost is too high.

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you are good. [laughter] i would love that costume. come on up, joe. [laughter] no, you're not going to dance, believe me. we would not want to ruin the evening. >> first lady joe biden blocking reporters from asking president biden about classified documents. this is not the first time the white house staff and members of the family pulled him away from the press, here to react geraldo rivera cohost of the five, hey, geraldo. >> hey, ainsley how are you? >> she is deflecting making a joke, laughing and pulling she stands between the president and the reporters so they can't ask questions and pulled them up on stage. why won't he tell us or to say look, you are honest about classified documents and hand them over and tell us what is in them? >> will i think first of all the celebration for lunar new year the first lady did what she does so well, she ran interference

for the president. number one to keep them from answering reporters questions just as you indicate, ainsley. and the other thing is not to make a full of himself out there on the stage dancing. it was a strange celebration of the lunar new year as you know the event overshadowed by the two mass murders on the west coast, the monterey park 11 killed at the dance hall and just days later at half moon bay another seven slain. all asian on asian, a terrible, terrible confluence of events. on lunar new year and the whole thing also overshadowed by no one knows what's going to happen tonight in memphis when they release that awful video y'all have been talking about this morning of the five police officers beating the black motorist to death. i think interestingly when i look at it the curious thing is that all of these events break

stereotypes. the two mass murders on the west coast in half moon bay and monterey park, the assailant in both cases an asian man and then in memphis the five cops that beat the motorist to death allegedly are all black. what do you do when the racial stereotype does not apply? it's a very, very perplexing time now, we are all wondering what's going to happen tonight. you know, one of the bright spots in the white house celebration, ainsley, was celebrating everything everywhere all at once the movie asian themed movie that got 11 academy award nominations but you could also use that to describe what's on the presidents plate, everything, everywhere, all at once, ain ainsley. >> ainsley: yes, thank you geraldo, have a great weekend good to see. >> happy lunar new year. >> ainsley: actually you have

some headlines question mike >> we will start that jay leno's back in hospital months after sustaining major burns in a garage fire, he broke his collarbone, two ribs and cracked both kneecaps and a motorcycle crash but a vintage car is in good spirits telling a las vegas affiliate he is okay and he is actually working this weekend and leno also suffering a blow to his career. cnbc is canceling jay leno's garage following his fiery accident ending his 30-year run with the network. he has been with nbc universal since his tonight show dates the lactase back in 1992. james no one is threatening to shut down all cattle sales in the upcoming hoquiam at madison square garden's and response to the state liquor authority's investigation of the menus facial recognition technology that is fused to ban lawyers suing dolan, dolan also says he put up signs with the liquor authority ceos photo

and contact info telling him to call and complain if they want to drink at hockey games. kansas city chiefs tide in travis kelsey was caught up in the moment when he decided to launch back at quarterback chad hensley, someone help me out with this. hannay, there is a z in there. first touchdown in a playoff and thanks to the fan they tracked down the ball, they say once henne gets a back they fans will get it done my coming as a thank you, and there'll be a rematch of the 2022 championship meanwhile ricky sensation brock purdy and the phillies are battling it out you can catch the game at 3:00 eastern on fox. americans are getting pink slips as corporate layoffs spread beyond big tech but chipotle is beefing up hiring ahead of brito season.

the fast food chain says it is looking to hire 15,000 workers over the next few months. chipotle says it's expecting to be a very busy march all the way through may as demands increase during big events like march madness and si cinco de mayo. >> will: i didn't know it was brito season. >> brian: they should put some. >> will: i would like to see stats. >> ainsley: there are big events, super bowl, march madness. >> will: starts in march, cinco de mayo and march madness really boost burrito sales. >> brian: the wrappers are at their peak. let's check in with somebody in season senior meteorologist janice dean the janice dean. >> it's nice to see all of you this morning and you know what que?at the beatable day in new york city. we are expecting some cooler air to move and especially across the plains states, let's take a look at it. the coldest air in some seasons

for the northern plains and the midwest as things dip to below zero in a lot of these cases so negative 13 is what it will feel like in bismarck. these are not winchell's by the way these are actual day of forecast low temperatures. that will be the biggest story. we also have potential for showers and thunderstorms along the gulf coast, snow for interior west and across the midwest as well but we have a big event, brian kilmeade, so big i had to take the day off yesterday. we went to a book signing and brian was nice enough to come out to long island university. his alma mater to do a q&a with me on stage. i think i probably pressured him into a boat we had lots of people come and we did a book signing of i am the storm and what an event. that's exactly how i usually feel. >> brian: we braved the pouring rain and the audience was tweed roosevelt, great grandson of teddy roosevelt. >> he came to the book signing! >> brian: it's amazing, he flew in for a. and kim klein who is the

president of the university did in an article job bringing sports to derision one, bringing a veterinarian school and the roosevelt school which as you can see with everyone signing her book talking about your book, the roosevelt school was a replica of the white house. >> it's amazing i want to do a story out there, brian kilmeade. >> i think you should, well? was that right? ainsley question marks be one year of the style guide i have the executive, janice we will do a show with. >> brian: a whole show? >> i'm grateful ryan came, i think mr. roosevelt came because brian came not just because i was there signing books. because brian is a big deal on campus at liu i want to say t that. >> brian: is "i am the storm" still available? >> it is wherever you buy books but also at libraries, make libraries great again. >> brian: no, by the book. >> will: i took self-conscious she likes libraries, it's okay, people should buy "i am the storm" >> brian: it's not in the library at them to take it off the best seller list to put

it in the library that's not how it works. >> ainsley: he is a graduate of long island university and so was chris pine the camera. >> it's amazing the alumni in the building so thank you long island university and theodore's books are making that happen. >> brian: if you see chris you can see who the football player and with the soccer player was. >> look at that. pay good job, chris. >> brian: anthony too of course. >> ainsley: thanks, janice, coming up mike rowe says the government is to blame for millions of american men not working. and he may be washing his hands now but he is not afraid to get them dirty as we know. wait, they are still dirty. ♪ ♪ wake up to a new you. with mucinex nightshift, it's not cold and flu season. it's always comeback season. this is a tempur-pedic mattress and it's designed to help make aches and pains a thing of the past...

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bengals fan. mike rowe is warning americans in over 7 million men dropped out of the workforce with no plans to find another job. >> brian: as bls data shows men are spending around seven hours a day doing leisure activities like watching tv and playing games while more than 700,000 manufacturing jobs are available. >> ainsley: good luck getting a girl. post narrator of how america works on fox as mike rowe joins us, mike, why are so many men not working? >> mike: clearly because they don't want to get the girl. obviously. >> brian: it will not be a worry. >> mike: first of all, well, thank you it's not me warning, i'm repeating a warning. when i first heard this stat it was in a book called "men without work" by an economist called nicholas eberstadt. i had him on my podcast, we had a conversation and it is just stunning. never in peacetime have so many able-bodied men specifically not only not been working but affirmatively not looking for work.

that is new. that is a new thing. it is very, very difficult to think about it because we are inundated with stories of giant layoffs at amazon, et cetera. so part of our brain goes while matt, people are about to get laid off in record numbers. the other part says jeez, 7.2 million men just saying nope, i'm out. what does it all mean? it's kind of like talking about an elephant if you're only holding onto the task. versus the tail, versus the trunk, right? it's a big, complicate a problem but this is part of it and it doesn't get enough attention. >> brian: something about the two and a half years it made a lot of people go i don't want to do this i'm not fulfilled by doing this pay whatever it is they will study this for years. you also another concern and you will say it's happening in california, it is the attack on the giga economy. >> mike: this thing known as talking about it in my view the way they should. it started out with us in an assembly bill called a.b. 5 intent was to essentially

stop the ridesharing or at least reimagine it so all your drivers are employees and not independent contractors. has since spread to all avenues of freelance. 70,000 independent truckers have just been impacted in a way that we are not quite sure what this is going to mean for the supply chain, but it will not mean anything good on a macro level. on a micro level you guys like tom odom who i read a profile on, extraordinary story about a guy who's netting six figures a year driving independently. he is done. he either quits or moves to texas right now. this is going to happen over and over and over again and again and again and i only bring it up because california is probably lost at this point. on this topic but there is a bill right now in congress called the prose act i believe. it will attempt to do the same thing all over the country. anybody who has ever freelanced

before needs to pay attention to this. >> brian: supplementary hint comes aside also whatever, huber and lifts. >> mike: you said it earlier, when you look at the back of your check you see all of this, it's like a rubik's cube, right? when you are an independent contractor you have to write your own check. to the tax bureau every quarter, right? when you do that, well, it's a very different experience when you sit down to write what you owe as opposed to having it withheld. i believe that a lot of people in power don't want us to do that. >> will: don't want us to feel the emotional pain because we are asking where is our money going. >> mike: because writing the check is very, very different. >> brian: what about the easy pass? you don't know that tolls have changed we don't even see the tollbooth anymore. >> mike: we are a frog in the boiling water and so many ways and the heat goes up a little more in a little more in a little more in the next thing you know you are accepting things as dogma. >> brian: you are saying this to alert our audience to stop

this, this is no benign bill, this is something that has to be stopped. >> mike: you have to look at it, it's a quick google but when you look at the war on freelance it goes right to my foundation, right? we talk about work and we look at the dignity of a good job and to eliminate the ability to eat what you kill, it is primal, it's fundamental, and it is screwed up and we really have to talk about it candidly. >> ainsley: the president yesterday, he was talking about, you know we went out and he was praising the economy saying how wonderful it is and you are talking about all these layoffs and people don't want to work. we have 3m who makes scotch tape and the post-its notes and all these company lanky block on the tech world obviously, but he goes out there and he says our economy is doing well and i am improving it and we have the feds saying they could raise interest rates again which we all know they will. >> mike: it's back to the elephant, right? if you're going to talk about ivory, grub on the task and say look at this amazing piece of

ivory but it's much bigger, somebody else's hanging hanging onto the tail. somebody else is trying to figure out what the trunk is. two, three, four things can be happening in the economy at the same time so i don't want to say the president is wrong or making stuff up, what do i know? i just know the part of the elf and i am looking at right now is scary and it's real. >> brian: i would love a president or leader to say guys coming up to start working, there is glory in work, glory and effort, so they don't feel that will get them votes. i've good news for you. how america works monday nights at 8:00, that is on. >> mike: great show. >> brian: why would you say someone like that? >> mike: why? it could be because i produce it. but truly how america works and dirty jobs are two shows that show the country what this brand of work still looks like. and looks, it has always been important to me but when i look at the tiktok videos going around and all of these examples of here is my day in the

aromatherapy booth it's like okay, i am not poking fun. >> ainsley: what's the worst when he did? i remember there was cockroaches in someone's house, and then in the sewage. >> mike: i did that. >> ainsley: what was the worst? >> mike: this week on sundays i go into a manhole with a manhole rehabilitating crew, it is a family-run organization and they are extending the life of manholes by 50 years. it has to be done. >> will: the worst is this week, check it out. meanwhile, more "fox & friends" moments away with him. >> ainsley: not so bad. ♪ ♪ . coming... back... inflammation in the eye might be to blame. feel the ache and burn! one man learns the truth... over-the-counter eye drops typically work by lubricating your eyes. they may provide temporary relief... but probably won't touch me! mwahaha! tell me there's another way... there's hope for lasting relief with xiidra! xiidra works differently targeting inflammation that can cause dry eye disease. xiidra, nooo!

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♪ >> it's friday. we'll catch you saturday and sunday. >> it is my monday. see you tomorrow and sunday. >> you have the radio show from 9:00 to noon. we have guest mike rowe and matt taibbi. >> bill: good morning. it's friday. on tap, day three of the double murder trial of alex murdaugh starting 30 minutes from now. more dramatic testimony expected coming off yesterday. first responders describing the gruesome crime scene as prosecutors continue to present their case. we'll have more throughout the morning here. meanwhile there is high anxiety nationwide. cities bracing across the country for the possibility of unrest with memphis set to release body cam video of a traffic stop from earlier this month that led to the death of tyre nichols. that's where we st