emily, your final thoughts. >> the speed which depape entered the home, the brutality which he entered the home, and the speed and brutality with which he attacked paul pelosi caught on video. i continue to be surprised both prosecution and defense resisted the release of this video. >> thank you for watching. "america reports" now. >> john: harris, thank you. fox news alert, begin with more on the release of the police bodycam footage from the attack against paul pelosi after a judge agreed with news organizations request to make the video public. john roberts in washington. heck of a way to start off friday, sandra. >> sandra: breaking news afternoon is expected. this is "america reports," the first time we have been able to see video of the actual attack. the footage was released just moments ago and we warn you, as we play it out in its entirety, about 45 seconds, this is graphic.

>> hey, guys. >> how you doing? >> what's going on, man? >> hi. >> drop the hammer. >> nope. >> hey, hey, hey, hey. >> what is going on? >> i'm not -- [bleep] >> i got him. >> send back-up, code 3. >> code 3 back-up -- unit -- [bleep] hands. >> code 3 as well.

got it? >> code 3. >> sandra: police also releasing surveillance video from outside the pelosi home. you can see the suspect, david depape, approach the house and then start hammering at that glass door on the back porch. >> john: we have complete coverage from andy mccarthy is here, and former fbi special agent nicole parker. >> sandra: claudia is live in san francisco on the latest as the video was just released. claudia. >> the attack on paul pelosi drew national attention with inconsist reports spawning questions and conspiracy theorys, now we are all getting to see the actual footage after media outlet, including fox, sued the district attorney and a judge granted that request. in the predawn hours of october 28, 2 police officers knock on the door of pelosi's san francisco home responding to his

911 call about a break-in. pelosi opens the door, the police bodycam video shows the 82-year-old pelosi and 42-year-old david depape both holding on to a hammer. the officers ask what's going on, depape replies everything's good. the officers order depape to drop the hammer, he says nope, here is what happens next. >> hey, guys. >> how you doing? >> what's going on, man? >> everything is good. >> hi. >> drop the hammer. >> nope. >> hey, hey, hey, hey. >> what is going on? >> oh [bleep] >> send back-up, code 3.

>> code 3 back-up at 26 -- unit -- >> [bleep] hands >> ten minutes, code 3 as well. got it? >> pelosi drops to the ground bleeding with a fractured skull. the whole incident lasts about 15 seconds. san francisco d.a. argued releasing some of this material could jeopardize security at pelosi's home, and depape's public defender said it could jeopardize his client's right to a free trial. the judge rejected the arguments and also released the 911 call, surveillance footage from the u.s. capitol police shows depape walking on to the property with a bag and smashing through a

glass door and the recorded interview depape gave to police during which he candidly laid out his plan to hold then speaker nancy pelosi hostage, break her kneecaps if she lied to him and realized she was not there, the decision to hurt her husband. nancy pelosi has not watched the videos and may not have the stomach to see the assault on her husband's life. attempted murder, assault with a deadly weapon and elder abuse. and parallel hearing in federal court, the state's case will go first, and life in prison if convicted. all of this evidence, the footage, 911 call can be available to our viewers at foxnews.com. >> sandra: claudia, thank you. john. >> john: bring in former assistant u.s. attorney andy mccarthy, so the video fills in a lot of gaps we had in the

story but also begs questions as well. we saw depape break into the home rather violently and the next thing the police are knocking on the door. the door opens and the two of them holding on to a hammer. what transpired between the time depape broke in and the two of them answered the door for the police. the police clearly see depape is holding a hammer, they order him to drop it. why didn't they rush him at that moment? >> this is a very difficult thing, john, especially for, you know, anybody who has ever had a security detail. i have some experience with this working terrorism cases years ago. you are always trying to balance allowing the person who is the protectee to go about his life and also the imperative of protecting, including using lethal force if lethal force is necessary to do the protection.

and it's just a very -- these are snap judgments that have to be made in the moment. you know, obviously with hindsight and knowing what happened here it's very easy to be critical of the police for not either, you know, using force that was necessary to stop this assault or at least rushing him and acting more quickly. if it turned out they rushed him and nothing happened, you can imagine the arguments made on the other side. >> sandra: our good friend and colleague, jonathan turley, andy has put out a statement on his twitter following the release of the pelosi video tape and says it clearly shows the attacker holding pelosi's arm and then attacking him as soon as he tries to break away. it clearly refutes, he says, accounts suggesting that pelosi was free at the time. he says it's clear pelosi was

attempting to break free as soon as the officers were present. the tape believes little beyond insanity as a viable defense in his view, and that's a really important point. when they open the door you see him holding on to pelosi, the attacker, ok. if you could, andy, stand by with us. we have the 911 phone call that was made. we have it for our viewers and our listeners now. >> friday, october -- >> san francisco police, 74. >> i guess -- i guess i -- what is this -- >> san francisco police, do you need help? >> there's a gentleman here just waiting for my wife to come back, nancy pelosi. he's just waiting for her to come back, and she's not going to be here for days, i guess he'll have to wait. >> ok. do you need police, fire or medical for anything? >> i -- i don't think so, i

don't think so. there's the -- there's the capitol police around? >> no, this is san francisco -- >> they usually are here at the house protecting my wife. >> no, this is san francisco police. >> i -- no, i understand. ok, well -- what do you think? he's exhibiting -- i have a problem, but he says everything is good. >> ok. call us back if you change your mind. >> no, no, this gentleman just came into the house. and wants to wait here for my wife to come home, and so -- anyway -- >> do you know who the person is? >> no, i don't know who he is.

he -- he has -- he's telling me not to -- he's telling me not to do anything. >> what is your address, sir? >> 2640 broadway. >> what is your name? >> my name is paul pelosi. anyway, this gentleman -- he is telling me to put the phone down and do what he says. ok. >> ok. what's the gentleman's name? >> my name is david. >> the name is david. >> ok. and who is david? >> i don't know. what's that? >> i'm a friend of theirs. >> yeah, i -- he says he's a friend. >> you don't know who he is. >> no, ma'am. >> ok.

>> he's telling me i'm being very leading, i have to stop talking to you, ok? >> ok. you sure, i can stay on the phone with you to make sure everything is ok. >> no, he wants me to get the hell off the phone. ok? >> ok. thank you. >> ok, bye. >> sandra: ok, andy, that's a remarkable phone call. and he's apparently negotiating with the attacker over this 911 dispatch call? >> it's a gut wrenching call, i've never heard of a situation in which you have a person who is the protectee, it's not paul pelosi, it's nancy pelosi, but generally speaking a situation like this, even if the protectee is away from home, you have to have an eyeball on the home because the person is vulnerable, the protectee is vulnerable when she comes back. the idea they had an arrangement which this sure sounds like

where he didn't have a capitol -- if the capitol police were responsible for this, then, that he didn't have an emergency capitol police number or code to call the second that anything was fishy, and then you know, he's under great pressure and he's trying to convey to the police who turn out to be the wrong police, right, but he's trying to convey to them that look, i have a problem here, while he's obviously, you know, under threat by the person whose threatening him, and you know, they are asking him questions like well, you know, if you are sure, if you change your mind -- it's just -- it's maddening to listen to. >> john: i would hazard to guess in the wake of that phone call there's been some new training with 911 operators. people who have a famous name who are trying to say to you in code i got a real problem here

and cannot upset the person holding my hostage you put an emergency call in as quick as possible. he was doing everything he could to keep depape calm, and did depape know he was calling 911, did he think he was calling somebody else? when you look at the way that paul pelosi was speaking to a large degree in some sort of code to tell the 911 operator this is an emergency, he did a very good job of that, she did not do a good job of picking up on it, though eventually the police were dispatched. >> i think, john, it looks like just on our ability to hear that once, it looks like the assailant, depape, seemed to, you know, put 2 and 2 together as that call continued, because he clearly ran out of patience with whatever mr. pelosi was doing at the time, but i don't understand, even in a city the size of san francisco, you know,

if you are the police department and you have the speaker of the house living in your jurisdiction, you have to know that, and you know, it's just remarkable to me that -- asking him -- >> john: the call should have come up with an address. >> yep. yeah, none of it makes sense. but what i keep going back to is i have never heard of a situation where you have a person who needs protection where if the person leaves his or her home that they don't keep an eyeball on the home because the home is vulnerable whether the person is there or not if you are dealing with people who want to be a threat. >> sandra: it's really -- just going back to the entirety of it, just bizarre that the attacker is actually letting him call 911, i guess letting might be not the right word, but he is standing there, and pelosi is turning him to help answer some of the questions while obviously trying to keep the attacker calm

as to not instigate anything further. just bizarre from beginning to end, andy. >> yeah, because you are dealing with, you know, with people who are not rational, which is a problem in and of itself. i mean, you know, the police, when they come on the scene, have to confront that fact. mr. pelosi has to confront that fact when he's under threat, and talking about an 82-year-old man under a threat like this in the wee hours of the morning, it's a lot to ask for someone to handle. he seemed to my mind viewing this, he seemed to have handled it exceptionally well for somebody who was under the kind of stress he was under. >> john: we don't know what turned from that, where the situation seemed to be under control to the two of them hanging on to the hammer, which ultimately led to paul pelosi getting hit by it. my goodness, you can imagine

what he was thinking at that point when he managed to get on the call with 911, and why that, a call to 911 from that number did not come up blinking red is beyond me. andy, good to get your thoughts on this, appreciate it. thanks. >> sandra: thank you, andy. >> thanks, guys, have a good weekend. >> sandra: bring in former fbi agent nicole parker. thank you very much for joining us now. we have had a chance to see the police bodycam video, we have now just heard the 911 phone call between the dispatcher and pelosi, and also, of course, you hear the attacker in the background giving some of the answers to pelosi to give to the dispatcher, and what is just really a bizarre situation, very scary situation, obviously, for pelosi. your thoughts so far? >> you know, i had reviewed the federal indictment and everything in the indictment matches exactly what's on the video surveillance. you know, there were two federal charges in this case, one of

them is the attempted kidnapping of a federal official and the second is the assault of a family member, immediate family member of a federal official and that is what we just witnessed on the video surveillance. i think that mr. pelosi did a phenomenal job of maintaining his cool, maintaining his presence, and very high durress situation. he's held postage in essence by depape. the ability he had to pick up his cell phone, to make a phone call and for him to convey this information so calmly to the 911 dispatcher is quite phenomenal. and clearly depape is there listening, he's right there, participating in the conversation. that call was made at 2:23 a.m. on october 28th, and the san francisco police department arrived at their home at 2:31 a.m. it was a series of eight minutes.

a lot could have transpired in the eight minutes, and the fact they arrived at the home and that they both came to the door and that they were holding the hammer is phenomenal that pelosi was obviously able to maintain calmness with this individual until the police arrived. >> sandra: we have put together this timeline since you are mentioning the time of the morning that this happened, that this all happened, 2:23 a.m. when pelosi made the phone call to police, a man in the house waiting for speaker nancy pelosi. police responded to the home, about eight minutes later, to their san francisco home. and then they walk in and the bodycam video reveals they are standing at the front door both holding this hammer and then it is what happens next and why what happens next, that's where there are is many questions. obviously pelosi was trying to keep him calm to not attack but then something obviously

triggered him to raise that hammer and bring it down on him. nicole. >> absolutely. in essence, the officers are coming to the door and evaluate what's going on. things move very quickly. trying to determine what the threat is, you know, trying to -- probably determine what they are seeing. they are probably realizing he's holding a hammer, they immediately tell him you put the hammer down and he says um, nope, and they move in immediately and by that point it's always something that we call action versus reaction in law enforcement. we have to make split second decisions because we know that you only have a split second to react before someone can be violently hurt, we witness in this instance. police officers moved in as quickly as they could and when you make a decision in those instances, a hammer, a deadly weapon. he could have killed mr. pelosi.

in this situation they moved in quickly but unfortunately the defendant had already taken the hammer and hit mr. pelosi with it. but in those types of situations you want to be very, very careful, especially to be using deadly force especially when you have the hostage individual next to, you know, it's just a split second decision. you don't want to do a nonclean shoot, don't want to hurt mr. pelosi. they did the best they could with the information they had, acted as quickly as possible. >> sandra: nicole, final thought, were you surprised if you heard the conversation with andy mccarthy that this house, this address wasn't more on the radar of the police department when that phone call was made, considering paul pelosi was calling from the speaker of the house, one of the highest ranking government officials in the country? >> right, i mean, you would think that in that district that they might be familiar with who their residents are and that they lived in their area, but

again, i'm always careful to criticize, you know, that 911 dispatcher did the best that they could. >> sandra: nicole parker, appreciate you joining us, thank you very much. >> my pleasure, thank you. >> john: another big story we are watching this friday afternoon, cities across the country bracing for potential unrest tonight as police in memphis prepare to release bodycam footage of the traffic stop that led to tyre nichols' death. the five former officers involved in the incident now face murder charges. his mother speaking to reporters moments ago. >> really i want to say i've never seen the video but what af heard is very horrific. very horrific. and any of you who have children, please don't let them see it.

i just want to ask for prayer for my family, for this whole community, and i want to say to the five officers that murdered my son, you also disgraced your own families when you did this. but you know what, i'm going to pray for you and your families because at the end of the day this shouldn't have happened. this just shouldn't have happened. and we want justice for my son. justice for my -- >> john: the video we saw there, paul pelosi attack was brutal, according to rowan wells, this video when it come out will be

far more graphic than even that. charles watson on the ground in memphis. what's the current status of the ex-police officers? >> well, john, as of now all five of the former memphis police officers who were charged that posted bond and are back on the street, this coming after a grand jury indicted all five former officers on thursday. each of them facing a long list of charges, including second-degree murder, aggravated assault, aggravated kidnapping, official misconduct and oppression for their alleged roles in the violent beating of nichols. at a press conference ongoing as we speak, civil rights attorney ben crump said the way this case was handled is the outline in terms of how you deal with officer misconduct moving forward. meantime, the attorney for one of the former officers, desmond mills, jr. says his client is absolutely devastated. >> we want to proclaim that this

is the blueprint going forward for any time any officers, whether they be black or white, will be held accountable. >> he could not be more upset about this entire situation. again, somebody who has dedicated his life to protecting society, to protecting the community, to be accused of being involved in the death of another is devastating. >> the former officers are accused of beating nichols so badly during a traffic stop that he ended up in the hospital intubated on january 7th. he died three days later. the incident which many have described as inhumane is also getting the attention of president biden, the u.s. attorney general, and the fbi director who said he was appalled and as this city braces for the release of bodycam video of the violent encounter this evening, the message from nichols' family is peaceful protest.

>> we want peace. we do not want any type of uproar, we do not want any type of disturbance. we want peaceful protest. that's what the family wants, that's what the community wants. >> and so you hear the message from nichols' family, peaceful protests. the attorneys that are representing them also calling on the fraternal order of police to release a statement. they say they have been quiet on this and they want to hear from them, guys. >> john: charles watson for us with the latest from memphis. fingers crossed it will be peaceful tonight. we'll see. sandra. >> sandra: all right, john, as mentioned, watching for a lot of breaking news this afternoon, a live look now from dana point, california, the republican national committee is kicking off the final day of its winter meeting. and after weeks of intense politicking and party in-fighting, the showdown over the chair leadership will come to an end today.

ronna mcdaniels is looking for a fourth term but the challenger says they need new leadership. katie pavlich will join us in a moment, but first william is live at dana point. what do we need to know? >> well, sandra, number one, the smart money is still on ronna mcdaniel, worked closely with about two thirds of the people in the room the last six years but no question the insurgent campaign has tapped into a frustration that activists and donors alike have that the party has underperformed. the question who to game, and will they go with dylan or mcdaniel. majority trust her fundraising and judgment and will not blow up the party she helped build just months before the 24 presidential primary.

>> and so i have run the campaign of how do we come together, how do we make addition, bring independence into the party, how do we be positive and uplifting and that's the race i've run. >> so now too, yesterday, the challenger was a long shot and governor ron desantis of florida said i support you and in terms of getting the rnc out of d.c., that was his quote. many agree the party needs some new blood, about you do they believe or resent some of the tactics that harmit used, hard ball tactics to get their vote. >> i've been supportive of ronna, i don't think some of the criticism is fair, she has tried her best, but you know, at the end of the day like i said, this is not school, you don't get a gold star for effort.

you don't get to stay in your job forever. >> so the polarized atmosphere that's here, many fear is going to carry over, right, so reflected on the party at large and also in the room, the party, republicans and democrat alike, you know, sandra, it's like a family. it's like a friction. the most important part is how they end. basically a timetable. another 30 minutes the voting will start and about 30 minutes after that we should have some people making results, so by noon local time, 3:00 on the east, we should have a new chairperson. back to you. >> sandra: and we have that bug in the corner of the screen to let our viewers know we are watching this. we should know more how this is shaping up a half hour from now. william, thank you. john. >> john: let's bring in katie pavlich, town hall.com editor and fox news contributor. about six weeks ago ronna was sitting in that very chair and

looked like she had the votes but now ron desantis is singing the praises of harmeet, saying i think we need a change, new blood in the rnc, and i like what she said about getting the rnc out of d.c., we need some fresh thinking. initially thought it was an endorsement, and then maybe not a complete endorsement, so she took down desantis picture off the endorsement page, but people like desantis behind her, what does that say about ronna mcdaniels having a lock on it. >> mcdaniels needs 85 votes to win the majority, it is a majority. as of wednesday night, harmeet's seem said she needed just 12 people so mcdaniels said she had the votes, it was not a contest, but harmeet has picked up off some from around the country,

and capitol hill and ron desantis yesterday. interesting to see how these two have made their arguments. at townhall.com, we ran op-eds of them making their case. harmeet said like in the interview, i respect ronna mcdaniel, done a lot to outreach voters and make contacts but it has not resulted in winning elections, what the rnc is for. but ronna said she has built the infrastructure and it would be detrimental to take her out in the middle of the game. the desantis endorsement, it's interesting on the 2024 level, candidates looking to get into the race have an interest in who the rnc chair is and it's been implied that president trump is supporting mcdaniel behi electis

in a row, you want a fourth try at that, i guess thinking albert einstein said the definition of insanity was the same thing over and over again hoping for a different result. but desantis said a tendency to for a scapegoat or ignore wins. narrow margin, they did not win back the senate but turned a lot of seats. >> harmeet has argued there is a lot of fat that could be cut, resources to go to the races that counted the most when it came to the midterm elections, mcdaniel said that's irrelevant to the way that they run the rnc, it's that the voters vote for candidates and they provide the infrastructure for the finish line, she is saying it's not the rnc fault but candidate quality. overall how it will shake out, conservatives as we saw on capitol hill with kevin mccarthy's fight for the speakership, competition and everything, whether it's business or politics is a good

thing, and if it means and if harmeet does not pull herself across the finish like with the alleged 12 votes she needs, there will be more focus on grassroots efforts, attention to what people want in terms of change and the problems on the ground in their districts or their committees. harmeet dhillon is not new to the process, involved in the california republican committee for years, she will still be involved in the process regardless of how it shakes out. >> john: while ron desantis has, i don't want to say put his support but talked nicely about harmeet, former president trump is officially staying neutral in all of this, but it's interesting to look at how delegates to the rnc are looking at him, the "new york times" interviewed 59 of the 168 delegates, a third, here is what they got from some of them. mac brown, kentucky gop chair, this isn't 2016, people have moved on.

jonathan barnett of arkansas, i've been a supporter of donald trump in the past, we need choices this time. hank mccann from delaware, did i vote for trump in 2016, you bet. vote for him in 2020, you bet. now, i don't know. there's discord in the ranks. >> with all due respect, sounds like the 2016 primary. rnc is not supposed to get involved in primaries and i doubt if president trump were to be the nominee in 2024, the rnc would not back him in the race. >> john: some delegates supported trump two years ago and six years ago, saying well, make it's time -- >> he's the only declared candidate, we are so early in the process. they can ask for alternatives, seems like there will be ten, right, but those people are not in the race yet, we will see what happens. at the end of the day, the voters decide who is going to be the presidential nominee, not

the rnc, and it's their job to back him up with whoever it may be, ron desantis, mike pompeo, nikki haley, former president trump to get them the infrastructure they need to go against president joe biden if he decides to announce. he has not done either. >> john: we may find out not long after the state of the union. thanks for dropping by. and more on all of this with shannon bream in the next hour. >> sandra: as we mentioned, jam packed afternoon on this friday, john, as we head into the weekend but not without a lot more breaking news happening this hour, next hour, and on into the evening. because we are going to highlight -- go ahead, john. >> john: we will find out who the new rnc chair will be in the next hour. >> sandra: indeed. watching for that news to break, and watching the white house because we do anticipate a white house press briefing, originally scheduled for this hour, it's moved to 2:00 eastern time.

so that should be happening about 25 minutes from now, as we await the release of the video of tyre nichols being beaten by police, that video is expected to be released tonight ahead of that the memphis police chief is warning footage is heinous. we will see what happens in the white house briefing room as far as questions to the white house on all of that, ahead of the video release. and the growing classified documents scandal, front and center likely again in the briefing today. and by the way, next hour, our own rich edson will talk to mike pence about the classified documents found in his home. brand-new reaction from the former vice president next hour. meanwhile, south carolina attorney alex murdaugh back in court. yesterday he was emotional, weeping at times as police described the murder scene of his wife maggie and their son

paul. how is it in court today? >> today it's still emotional, sandra. the prosecution continues to call on police officers and other first responders who were there at the murder scene. alex murdaugh appeared to wipe away tears as the sheriff's detective described the bloody crime scene where his wife and son were shot. happened on the family's 1700 acre estate, seen in drone video entered into evidence. a recording in which murdaugh told investigators he had checked for a pulse and inspect suspected the son's cell phone, but the detective saw no footprints or knee prints around the bodies. >> did you see what appeared to be blood on alex murdaugh's hands? >> i did not. >> his arms? >> no. >> his shirt? >> none. >> on his shirts? >> no. >> his shoes? >> i did not. >> during cross examination, the

defense tried to use the clean clothes to cast doubt on the alleged involvement with the double murder. >> in your mind's eye, that night on june 7th, did he look like someone had just blown his son's head off, spatter going everywhere. >> again, i can't say that for sure. a lot of things would come into play to affect that. distance is one of them. >> and in the courtroom today, they played a recording of crime scene interrogation murdaugh once again brought up the theory it had something to do with his son's boat accident in a previous month, an accident that killed a 19-year-old passenger. he said that his son will be bullied, punched a bit and he had been receiving some threats. back to you, sandra. >> jonathan, just a lot of emotion in that courtroom as that continues to play out. thank you very much, john. we saw a lot of it yesterday,

obviously. watching him really weep as some of those phone calls were played out, especially, so many twists and turns, hard for us who watch it every day to keep track of it, but people are watching where it goes next. >> john: and the attorney that he's got representing him, dick harpootlian is known for some pretty impressive courtroom gymnastics, so we'll see as the trial goes on how he tries to get witnesses to say things that they don't want to say or take the trial in a different direction. he is the sort of guy -- if you are charged with murdering somebody, he's the guy you want in your corner, but it's such a bizarre and many-headed snake all of this, we'll see which way it goes. >> sandra: we are also watching this. the national archives reportedly asking former presidents and vice presidents to start searching their own records for

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let's bring in our econ panel. robert wolf, and david asman. >> john loves to say osman, thinks i'm a member of the osman family. >> sandra: and i said do we have a segment for you, i've been having this conversation all week, teeing off of jen granholm on monday blaming the republicans for high gas prices. listen to this. >> house republicans are now pursuing this extreme agenda that risks worsening supply shortages in times of crisis. and risks raising prices, gas prices for american families. >> sandra: wait, wait, what? what? how is the gop to blame, robert? >> i have to be consistent. i would not blame the gop for raising gas prices. i've always been consistent and

you know i'm still nervous of inflation than recession here because of gas prices, especially china reopened the refineries have issues, supply continues, we have people driving again, post covid, so i'm concerned, i'm not surprised gas is up, i probably would not have spiked the football when gas is going down, i felt in the winter and if ukraine was extended -- >> sandra: how can you expect tapping the spr before the midterm election, how can you expect it to be a long-term solution. that does not increase supply or decrease demand. this should have been predictable. why would the white house, the energy secretary blame the republican party when not even democrats -- >> she's not an energy expert, she's a politician, that's part of the problem. it should be somebody with a lot of experience in what they are secretary of. she doesn't vit.

i would agree with bob about china. china is getting back on its feet early, opec is going to use 500,000 barrels more a day than they were during their lockdowns, but this spr thing, the president, it was never meant to be used as a price tool, it was supposed to be for emergencies here. we are selling it abroad, in fact, the chinese bought up $2 million of our reserves that were supposed to be used here and then resold it to make a profit. so it was just used for the wrong reason. >> sandra: really important point. because granholm proceeded on monday in the news conference to pat the white house on the back for refilling the strategic petroleum reserves this administration has depleted with oil at $80 a barrel. listen to this. >> i have no concerns that we will be able to refill and replenish the spr and savings to taxpayers because of the way this has been managed.

people will be pleased to see the savings to taxpayers. >> sandra: trump tried to refill it at $24 a barrel, stopped by democrats. chuck schumer march 2020, when trump said he wanted to fill it to the top with oil as low as it was, $24 a barrel. chuck schumer after blocking trump on that plan to fill at 24, we have eliminated a $3 billion bailout for big oil. so what do you call what the biden administration is doing? that's a huge bailout of big oil then. >> a few things here. one, as you know, you've had me on for a very long time, i'm always for an all-in energy approach, from nuclear energy to fossil fuels to gas, clean energy as well, i have not changed. with respect to the strategic petroleum reserve, a few facts. one, released 180 million barrels over six months. that was 1 million barrels a day, for the most part they can do four but released 1 million a day. we have about 400 million barrels in the strategic reserve

today so we have a lot of availability if needed. the reason they released 180 million, we were losing about 10% globally from russia when they had to make the release, and with respect to granholm, just say one thing. >> sandra: we shouldn't have been dependent on russia. >> oil supply is a global commodity. we are not dependent on russia, we were, but global supply was. >> hold on, one thing -- we have domestic supply is what we have to talk about, robert, and we have just -- just in the gulf alone, we could improve 2 million barrels more a day, we could get out of the gulf, and that's cleaner burning gas and oil than from the rest of the world. >> i'm not against that. >> the biden administration is. they are talking about cutting back gulf oil production. we could produce it all here, all of the oil that we are giving -- all the oil we are giving up, all the oil we are giving up from the strategic

reserves, we could get from the gulf alone. >> sandra: three seconds. >> we know there would be more energy supplies if companies did not buy back stock. a lot of refineries. >> sandra: how about an energy friendly environment in the united states, that would help. this was fun, appreciate both of you here. our friday econ panel. and john, if i could put it up on the screen, gas prices under this president when he took office, gas at 2.39. today, 3.50, up 46%. we are talking about it going potentially, according to energy experts, $4 a gallon and you look at the spr that our econ panel was just talking about, and look at this line chart and that is where we are today. >> 400. >> incredible. >> started about 700 million. >> john: a lot of stations where i live are up to 3.80, and don't get us started on california. great to see david asman again.

>> i knew he could get it right if he wanted to. the osmon brothers. >> john: moving on to education, fairfax county, virginia back in the news. this time it's because the local public library is planning to pay a controversial writer more than $35,000 for a one hour lecture next month. nicole hannah jones is the author of 1619 project, and a bush for equity led thomas jefferson high school to cut merit admissions test in 2020, causing asian-american enrollment to plummet. and the author of "an inconvenient minority," and a board member of students for fair admission. the lecture will happen down the street from where i live, it's of interest to me. nicole hannah jones has argued that asian students did not qualify as students of color,

and there are many people who believe asian-americans don't really qualify so much as minorities because they are "white adjacent." what do you say? >> yeah, and even max kennedy, another social activist, said the standardized test is raises. are mcats racists now, we are doing a campaign against unc medical school right now, they want to instill anti-racism in the medical school training, including getting rid of mcat, teaching doctors intersectionality, the top math and science in the country, top doctors in the country, and they are being fed anti-racism, not how to be a good doctor, not how to be a good engineer. >> john: so you wrote about all of this in an op-ed in the daily mail, said the hate-filled far left are punishing thousands of hard working students because they are the "wrong race."

yes, progressives really are the true racists that they claim to loath. you know, when you talk about this push for equity, it's different than equality. equality gives everybody a level playing field and opportunity to excel. equity stops the highest performing people from acceling to make the lower level look like they are doing better than what they are. and likened to giving everyone the participation trophy, versus the team who win the championship the only ones to get the trophy. >> it's from the accreditation agency, from the fairfax county school board and the medical school accreditation agencies. they have 89 ways people have to be dei compliant, including speakers like nicole hannah jones, affirmative actions in admissions, american association for medical professionals has

the same program to read about it at color us united, we are doing the unc medical school campaign, but fairfax county and the education and the healthcare lobby are conspiring together to create this kind of new racket promulgated across american schools and medical schools across the entire nation. >> john: bill mcgurn wrote about this, what makes asian-american achievement so resented by the equity warriors, exposes as false the narrative about an ir redeemable racist america where minorities can't succeed. what do you think of that? >> exactly. they are the inconvenient minority. think about a racist country, right. why would a racist country let a minority group, asian-americans get the highest education levels in the entire nation, the highest incomes out of all of the racial groups in our country, why would a racist country do that, and the answer

is because we are not a racist country. we are actually -- thomas jefferson shows this, thomas jefferson, nations number one high school is 70% asian. it's so asian the woke progressives feel that it's too asian, and they want to admit more white kids now. how ironic is that. woke progressive standing up for white kids. the new mantra of the progressive left. >> john: kenny, great to talk to you this afternoon, clearly attention of the nation because it's not just happening in one place, it's beginning to happen across the country. thanks for being with us, appreciate it. you know, sandra, and then the long-term effects of all of this, if you keep the highest performing students from performing, what is that going to do to american competitiveness down the road when countries like china are doing everything they can to produce the highest achievers in the world and then they have the back-up to help them on their

way to global domination of the economy, and potentially military as well. >> sandra: that is the core question at the center of that debate. a fascinating discussion there, john. i really look forward to seeing where that all goes. >> john: interesting fella. >> sandra: indeed. we are approaching the top of a new hour, and the white house press secretary is set to take questions from the media as memphis and other major cities brace for the release of the tyre nichols' bodycam footage. a whole lot she could be asked about, including the growing classified documents scandal as well, plus the rnc is set to vote on the party's next chair. shannon bream is here, plus our all-star panel line-up i should say, brian kilmeade, dr. nicole saphier and brian claypool as "america reports" rolls on.

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>> sandra: "america reports" rolling right into a jam packed hour two to wrap a busy week. moments from now former vice president mike pence will be speaking about the classified documents found in his home and he's answering questions, a first on fox. welcome back as "america reports" rolls into the second hour. here we go, john. i'm sandra smith in new york. >> john: big friday afternoon, john roberts in washington. we are watching a lot right now, coast to coast, all new at 2:00. in california, ronna mcdanie minutes from learning her fate as the rnc votes whether to keep her as leader. >> sandra: and in washington, look live at the white house press briefing room, karine jean-pierre is set to take questions. >> john: police officers accused of murder in memphis. city on edge and