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police released surveillance and body cam video of a deadly traffic stop that preceded the death of 29-year-old tyre nichols. kevin corke lays out the key portions of the video and also has the baking details. kevin, good evening. >> trace, the video takes place over two separate scenes beginning with the initial stop where tyre nichols was pulled over for allegedly recklessly driving. now, nelson had been sort of jerked out of his vehicle by officers, though we don't know why, given where the video began. then obviously there is an altercation in which officers are ordering nelson to turn over and put his hands behind his back. there's a lot of back and forth, a lot of talking, and eventually a scuffle. pepper spray is deployed. nelson struggles with the officers, and manages somehow to escape on foot. later on, after being caught at the second location, officers from the initial stop show up.

another altercation ensues, only this time for several minutes. nelson is brutally kicked, beaten, left unable to defend himself, even calling out for his mother at one point. >> mom! mom! mom! >> obviously horrifying to watch and to listen to, and even worse, no one, not one of the five officers involved, it appears to provide even basic help to a man who was obviously in distress. unlike the body cam video, the elevated shot that we have, which apparently is from perhaps, i'm not sure, maybe a pole of some sort or a street lamp, it's an unblinking eye, a window into the violence that some have described as "urban policing at its very worst," which has been characterized as being more violent and more punitive than other forms of policing. and all five police officers, and if you know, have been fired

for excessive use of force. the elf face second-degree murder charges among others, and i should point this out, federal charges can also be thrown into the mix depending on the outcome of any separate investigation, trace. >> trace: you are right, because that body cam video was very damning. but when you look at that streetlight camera and the big perspective that showed all of that that's going to be really damning against those police officers. >> no doubt. >> trace: kevin corke live in d.c. meantime, in cities around the country where protests are taking place, things are clearly very tense. let's go to memphis where we have gianno caldwell and julio rose to rosas. what have you seen throughout the evening, gianno? >> these are mostly peaceful protests and we have driven around since we arrived here, me

and my crew, today. we didn't see much but a lot of journalists and a few pockets of protesters, mainly that bridge that people have been mentioning where the protesters stopped all the traffic. the good news is, i think, for the folks here in memphis, it was peaceful, and i don't think we are going to see much else tonight, at least. the sense i have gotten from the crowds was twofold. people believe the chief of police took decisive action in firing these particular police officers, and they think that might be part of the reason why it was peaceful, and in addition to that, i think there are also people who think there was time needed to digest the tape. some of the younger folks may react differently, but that is yet to be seen tonight. it was all peaceful. >> trace: julio, from your perspective, is there any indication of outside agitators,

maybe mobilizing for the hours and days ahead? >> not from what i saw. i was also in that crowd where they stopped by the bridge. one thing i really want to stress is that it wasn't just any bridge or any part of town. this is the bridge that connects arkansas and tennessee. so a lot of people who rely on that key route to go either into tennessee or arkansas were unable to do so for a few hours. at one point they were able to redirect traffic and get people to turn around, but that was after they were stopped for a few hours. in terms of outside agitators, i think a lot of people, like gianno said, want to actually digest the video in full, because it's pretty long and extensive and obviously very revealing from what we have been hearing all week. >> trace: gianno, it sounds like everybody across the board was calling for peaceful protests, including the family attorney, benjamin crump. he had a great interview with him. i want to play some of that and get your response on the other

side. watch. >> what we want is for the protesters to take their cue from tyre nichols and how he acted in that video. he remained peaceful and calm. that's what we all should do. but i do worry about the agitators, because you have then lurking at every corner. >> trace: we all worry about the agitators, gianno, the right how it appears that people have taken this advice to heart. >> it appears cell, and i'm really glad to see that. i know we are all concerned about the safety of the residents here as well as the journalists that are here on the scene. i've got to tell you, benjamin crump has clearly been through this a lot. he was a family attorney for george floyd's family, breonna taylor, michael brown, so he has seen this quite a bit, and thankfully people have followed the advice thus far of the nichols family. >> trace: i'm interested, julio, because i see all these pictures.

what i have not seen is a very large police presence in memphis tonight. i know the police chief told her officers not to wear riot gear. but did you see a vast police presence as you are roaming around the city tonight? >> no, not at all. actually, in fact, when the protesters did finally move away from the bridge and further back into tennessee, there was basically a line of cop cars that positioned themselves at an intersection to prevent more people from being stuck in a traffic jam. as the protesters got closer, the cop cars drove off, they drove away. so at least here in memphis tonight, they took a very hard hands off approach, is something that i have seen when they don't want to create a situation that can inflame more tensions and create more kinetic action. >> trace: i've only got a few seconds left, gianno, but i want your take. and all your political analyst. we talk to these protesters,

what is it they are looking for? are they looking for police reform, are they looking to just change the system altogether? what is it you are finding? >> i think that's a multipronged answer. some do want police reform and some believe that there is injustice against black and brown people just generally speaking, and they think the police largely are pushing this. and others just want to see justice in this particular case. the good thing is, as i mentioned, chief davis, c.j. davis, i think she did a really good job with her police tonight, not being in riot gear, making sure they were involved but keeping their distance at the same time, not to create a chaotic situation. so hats off to c.j. davis. >> trace: it seems like we have learned a lot since the days of baltimore and ferguson, really learned a lot. it's great to see you, gianno. julio, thank you so much for coming on.

>> thank you, trace. >> trace: along with being criminally charged, it appears the five fired police officers from memphis also broke numerous police policies. let's talk with andy sutton and charles moreno. gentlemen, thank you both. you pointed out to me that you are also a training officer, so you know the protocols backwards and forwards. it seems like you watch this video of this traffic stop and everything that could go wrong, did go wrong. >> i was aghast at what i saw. i've been a police trainer for many years with the las vegas metropolitan police department, specifically on use of force issues. everything that these officers did was outside of policy, outside of common sense, and seemed to be more of an emotionally driven type of attack. as a law-enforcement officer, it was an embarrassment for me.

to see the death of this individual who simply did not deserve this type of treatment was an embarrassment for law enforcement, but i will say this, rarely do i agree with benjamin crump. he actually called for calm, he said some things that were absolutely accurate when it came down to the police response, and i give kudos to the chief, as well. >> trace: i think we have learned a lot. jonathan turley treated the following. "given the level of force from the outset, nichols may have fled in a sense of self preservation. it's abundantly clear why the officers were quickly terminated. it is still very abundantly unclear to me, charles, why in the world they pulled him over in the first place, and then the beating is just -- i don't know what to say about it. >> i think you are right. randy's points are right on point, as well. and you can see from the victim

the fear in his eyes, and i do think that he tried to flee the situation to remain alive. look, kudos to the chief of police from memphis for the quick and decisive action against these officers, the investigation that took place, and now we know the judicial process is underway. as randy and i have said numerous times with you, trace, this is not representative of the men and women of the memphis police department or for the over 800,000 men and women of law enforcement. but we have got to be honest here and acknowledge that the profession of law enforcement can't suffer any more of these types of situations. you have democrats that are going to continue to pounce, to defund, dismantle, and alter law enforcement in a way that is not going to be capable of

keeping the keeping the law and order in cities across the country. >> trace: and i think that's a key point, because the concept here is that nobody supports the police officers around the country, clearly your organization and others, but fox news channel. we are supporters because they are such a key part of the safety as we have seen over the past years. we hear a lot, as charles was saying, about police reform. sometimes to me it sounds like defund the police but in different language. your thoughts? >> police reform is a euphemism, generally speaking, by the left, which really means police revenge, revenge against law enforcement. if we really want to do something, we can take this moment and we could shape the future of policing by doing this. we see that this training these officers had was abhorrent, but this was a failure of leadership and a failure of leadership and failure of training. we can now use this moment to

not just refund the police, but actually makes a meaningful inroads into real police training, which cops across the country are crying out for. we could do that right now, we could make some serious serious inroads in that, if we want to take this horrendous tragedy and make something positive from it. >> trace: he seen these pictures, these are not from tonight, we should point out. i look at the pictures that were from tonight, charles, and i think at one point in time there were nine or ten different officers, as you had the victims sitting there lying by the car, and there was nobody scrambling to get medical help. do you think there might be more charges coming against other people who are on the scene and didn't really offer the help they needed? >> i think there is definitely malfeasance that took place in terms of the medical component, but as you alluded to, the

numbers that we see on one victim, it was just overwhelming. i mean, the use of force was just abhorrent. it was too much, it was more than what the situation required for just one suspect. so there might be additional charges, because nobody rendered aid, nobody tried to stop the actions, nobody tried to minimize the amount of people that were dealing with the suspect to gain control. i mean, this goes against all aspects of training, as randy said, that i have been through. >> trace: it's amazing. a lot of people have compared the video we saw today to rodney king. i don't know, i'm not an expert. i know that rodney king might have went on a little longer, and rodney king also survived, and tyre nichols did not. gentlemen, thank you both, randy and charles. >> is a pleasure. >> thanks, trace. >> trace: let's go to legal analysis and bring in ted williams, along with civil rights attorney robert pattillo.

it's great to see you both today. ted, do you first, because benjamin crump asked a fair question. i know we've been saying we disagreed with him a lot over the years. he asked a fair question tonight, where was the de-escalation in this police procedure? >> you know, trace, that's an excellent question. the de-escalation was unfortunately not there, and it started from the beginning where there was an escalation. when law enforcement officers first walked up to that man's door, the first thing they did was to snatch the door open and to snatch that man out of that automobile. so there was an escalation at that stage. and it's a stage that they were trying to handcuff him. they were continuing to escalate, because they pepper sprayed him. they were teasing him.

at some stages, we saw in the fourth video, they were kicking this man. so there was an escalation, unfortunately, that took place. >> trace: we counted, and i'll tell you, there were at least a couple of baton hits, five or six punches, half a dozen kicks. it amazes me. i want to put this up, because this is memphis pd policy on force. quoting here, "officers should only use the necessary amount of force consistent with the accompaniment of their duties and must exhaust every other reasonable means of pres preven, apprehension, or defense before resorting to the use of deadly force." it doesn't look like that's what happened. >> absolutely. that is why it's so important to have leadership in the police department we see here, where these officers were terminated immediately. there's usually situation where they are put on desk duty or paid leave. they were terminated immediately.

there was an investigation, it was deemed they violated the law, it was taken before a grand jury, they were indicted, and how they have turned themselves in and will await trial. as we look at the streets tonight, it's important to recognize that these marches and protests have always been about accountability and justice, and what we see tonight is that, when a city provides accountability and justice, the protests are peaceful. we need to see this more so throughout the nation. >> trace: it's interesting to me, ted williams, we use you a lot because you have a different perspective. you were a police officer. you are an attorney. see you have done brilliant analysis for us for years because of that. i want to put this up, because this is the memphis pd use of force continuum. quoting here, "physical presence, verbal warnings, verbal commands, chemical agents, empty hand control, soft and hard, impact weapons, less lethal weapons, canine, and deadly force." it seems like we skipped right

to number six. your thoughts? >> you are absolutely right. they skipped over all of the continuum in place, trace. what you have found here was an out of control unit. at one time i thought it was inexperienced, and i have said that these officers perhaps were inexperienced, but i've changed my mind. these were officers who did have experience, but they were bloodthirsty for power, and they used and they abused their uniform, and their badge, by the actions that they took against this innocent man. this man hadn't done anything. calling for his mother, saying -- at the beginning he said, "i haven't done anything!" that was the first thing that came out of this man's mouth. >> trace: he was 6'3", 145 pounds. he had no criminal record that anybody can find, and we don't

know if there was reckless driving because there's no evidence. i've got about 15 seconds, charles. were you surprised how quickly the d.a. brought charges against these officers? >> i'm not surprised. i think it's a model for the entire nation. this is why we need conference reforms. congress needs to stop this. >> trace: thank you. thank. >> my pleasure. >> trace: we are continuing to monitor protests around the country, plus new reaction to the body cam footage released in the paul pelosi case. and get this, david depape, the attack suspect, called our affiliate in san francisco this evening. what he had to say about the incident. you will be flabbergasted. that's next.du to conquer the high road, or the off road. ♪

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>> trace: continuing coverage, breaking news, and our first look tonight at video of the attack on paul pelosi. the release of this footage comes after legal action by this network and others, and over objections by both prosecutors and the defense. christina coleman is live with a breakdown. christina, this video really answered a lot of questions. >> a lot of people were confused after this attack. they didn't know what happened or what went on. the suspect, david depape, called into the san francisco fox affiliate tonight from jail and spoke to a reporter. he's been described as a homeless man who used to live in a hippie commune in berkeley. take a listen to what he said during this phone call. >> i have an important message for everyone in america. you're welcome. liberty is dying. it's being killed, systematically and deliberately. the people killing it have names

and addresses. i got my names and addresses so i could pay a little visit and have a heart-to-heart chat about their bad behavior. >> there was a lot of rumors dictating about how depape got into the former house speaker's home on october 28th. take a look at this video. it shows him appearing to break into the back of their house, and now we have audio from the 911 call. mr. pelosi sounds hesitant to hang up the phone as he tells the operator that he does not know the man inside of his ho house. >> i've got a problem but he thinks everything is good. >> okay. call us back if you change your mind. >> no, no, no. this gentleman just came into the house and wants to wait here for my wife to come home. >> it sounds like he's talking in code, the police say when they showed up at the house mr. pelosi answered the door and within seconds depape swung a hammer into his head, fracturing the skill of this 82-year-old man. again, the video you are about to see is graphic.

>> how you doing? what's going on, man? >> everything's good. >> dropped the hammer. >> nope. >> what's going on right now? [bleep]. >> that video is so hard to watch. in addition to multiple state charges, depape faces separate federal charges including attempted kidnapping, of a u.s. official. if convicted he could face up to 50 years in prison on the federal charges alone. very disturbing case. >> trace: when he was on the phone with the dispatcher and said he's waiting for my wife to come home, i don't think the dispatcher had any idea his wife was nancy pelosi. alarm bells would have run across the city, and yet nothing. "will get back to you, let us know if you need help." >> it sounds like he is so desperate for help and they are like, "just call us back if you need something." >> trace: for more on the attack and release of the video, let's bring in the deputy editor

of "restoring america." great to have you on. miranda devine hit this on the head tonight. she said the following, quoting here, "the real story is that democrat cities are so overrun with drug addicted, mentally ill, and criminals, that even the husband of speaker pelosi is not safe in his own bed. instead we have silly theories from the right and fake claims from the left that a trumpist did this." >> it cleared up a lot of theorizing over the past few months and forces us to wonder why prosecutors were so hesitant to release the footage in the first place. when i watch this lic is a terrified man trying to save his own life, and a deranged psychopath who has broken into his house, clearly for political reasons. as his call earlier shows. it's disturbing, upsetting, and there were multiple security failures that need to be

addressed. >> trace: in past month the doj has maintained that police opened the door, that paul pelosi did not come and now we know he did open the door. what is the damage that you do by just admitting what happened? >> well, they should have been up front about it in the first place, and perhaps the reason they weren't and they were giving different answers and what had been reported by, for example, nbc, they genuinely didn't know what had happened. i find that difficult to believe. i think they did know what happened but they were so interested in upholding this political narrative that this is the answer we have been given. >> trace: can i just play this quickly and get a quick response from you? this is one more sound bite from david depape. from prison. watch. >> i have an important message from everyone in america. you're welcome. i would also like to apologize. i want to apologize to everyone. i messed up. but what i did was really bad.

i am so sorry. sorry i didn't get more of them. >> trace: your final thoughts on this, 15 seconds. weird. >> he is deranged, and it is a shame that capitol police were not doing their responsibility and protecting paul pelosi and his family that evening. that security failure really needs to be addressed, because a man could have lost his life as a result. >> trace: capitol police, san francisco police, the dispatcher come big-time fail, all three of them. thank you for coming on, we appreciate it. we also have a new video to show you tonight of madison brooks on the night to the 19-year-old lsu student was allegedly raped and later died from injuries sustained when she was hit by a car. ashley strohmier is digging into that footage tonight, and this really could be key to the case. >> it could, trace. we are getting a new look at the night that madison brooks was allegedly raped before she later died after being hit by a car. this newly obtained surveillance

video from local affiliate w letter afb, shows the four men in conjunction with her alleged sea 11 leaving reggie's bar in baton rouge, louisiana, and crossing the street. a woman whose appearing to be brooks can be seen running behind them to catch up. in the second video, she can be seen walking with the four men she met that night across another parking lot. an attorney representing two of the suspects says the sex that night in the vehicle was consensual. the east baton rouge sheriff's office declined to comment on the video. reggie's bar has had its liquor license suspended and was temporarily shut down on tuesday after one of the underage suspects told police the group was drinking at the bar that night. in the statement, the bar says "the owner of reggie's has fully cooperated with the east baton rouge sheriff's office. louisiana state police, and the abc office, since their first request for assistance in their

ongoing investigations, and will continue to do so." the three adult suspects have been released from jail after posting bond. funeral services for brooks will be held next week. >> trace: ashley strohmier lives for us in new york. thank you so much. new video today just tonight from memphis, san francisco, and from baton rouge. let's talk about what we can learn from the body language with dr. carol lieberman, a forensic psychiatrist and body language expert. great to have you on. i want to play this video of madison brooks. we just saw a little bit of that, because clearly we all know that she was drunk. you can see the circle there, she's running behind. she is clearly inebriated and this is going to be key evidence in court, because her blood alcohol level was more than three. >> yes, there's absolutely no way she could have consented in a legal way to the sexual activity that went on in the car.

certainly one has to wonder, did these four men pick her up? they knew she was drunk and that's part of why they picked her up. >> trace: it's interesting. we move on now to the paul pelosi video. what struck me, we have hammered the 911 dispatcher and the san francisco police and their response. the video i'm interested in is the opening of the door. you see paul pelosi opens the door there, and you can see them both standing there. as you watch this video, we can kind of listen for five seconds. >> what's going on right now? >> trace: we don't even need to see it anymore because we've seen it so many times today. it's really hard to watch. what do you look at? when you see them both with a hammer, if you are looking for body language and so forth, when they both got the hammer, what was your take away of that, dr. lieberman? >> it seemed like paul pelosi was frozen in fear, paralyzed. he didn't know quite what to do. on the one hand he was thinking he's safe, the police are here, but then they didn't really do

anything, so that gave david depape the opportunity to hit him in the head with it. >> trace: i'm wondering, when they said drop the hammer, do you think at that point in time paul pelosi was showing and a fear in his face that police should have done something? >> absolutely. they should have done something before that point when they saw that strange site. they should have realized there was something in congress about what they were looking at. >> trace: lastly, we have the big video of the night, the police video in memphis of tyre nichols being hit. you kind of look at this, and it's interesting, from you, you have a legal background and a body language background and you can see the police here. he's clearly down. there are five of them. and you look at this and you wonder, aside from the obvious, but is there anything else alarming that you take away from this? >> oh, yes. it looked like wild animals, hyenas, going in on prey. really devastating. i think what we need to learn

from this is that police need to be tested psychologically before they get to be on the force. this is the new scorpion for us, supposed to go after very heavy crime, and instead they are stopping a man for supposedly reckless driving. >> trace: we've got to go. we have a break to hit. thank you for the insight, great stuff. coming up, elon musk goes to washington, and a new hit piece film premieres at a film festival, next. ♪ ♪

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>> trace: checking back in on tonight's top story, the state of protests around the country following the release a video of the january 7th beating of tyre nichols, and the suffering he did at the hands of memphis police that led to his death three days later. fortunately, protesters almost entirely have heeded the calls of everyone from president biden to tyre nichols' mom to keep

these demonstrations peaceful tonight. mr. muscat goes to washington. mike pence addresses being the third man in on the classified documents fight, and a new speefifteen hit piece. and all-access pass to tonight 's culture club. great to have you on. i like the elon musk story because it makes me laugh. he went to capitol hill today and met with kevin mccarthy and the minority leader, hakeem jeffries, says, "i think i saw him in passing. was that elon musk? i didn't know." kevin mccarthy said the following. >> we talked about making sure twitter is fair on all sides. he wants to have a level playing field for everybody. he's really defending the first amendment, and we had a really good discussion. hakeem jeffries was there. he had not met him before. >> trace: i think he is saying he wants a level playing field, and the left are thinking, "we like the old-fashioned way with

the fbi can call up and say, kill that story." >> musk has a lot of problems. the financial problems of twitter and the threat of regulation. he wants to get out of that. right now, donald trump is not back it. what happens when donald trump comes back, and you know he will, and starts to treat similar things to what he has on true social? the outrage starts. he needs all the allies he can get on capitol hill. >> trace: he is suggesting that someone might have to check over the tweets of the former president, and elon musk is like, what do i do? >> it's very interesting. i find it also interesting that it was kevin mccarthy who said, "and hakeem jeffries was also there." i never met him before. everybody is jockeying for position right now. >> trace: hakeem jeffries made it clear, "i wasn't meeting with him, i just went into shake

hands, i had lunch, had to go pick up some lunch for my team." and that was the end of that. so hold the presses, because somebody actually took responsibility for mishandling classified documents. play the sound. >> i take full responsibility for it, and i have directed my counsel to work with the department of justice, with the archives, and with congress on a full investigation, and they are cooperating in that as we speak. >> do you think there's differences between your situation and president biden's situation? >> i was not aware that these documents were in my personal residence, but they shouldn't have been there. >> trace: i'm skeptical. anytime anyone tells the truth and politics, i'm thinking, is this a new campaign tactic? did they do polling where they found people actually like the truth, and then they tell the truth? i'm kind of baffled. >> it's extraordinary. former vice president mike pence and i have very different

politics, but i have never looked at somebody, a politician, and said, "man, i like that guy." he just tells the truth, and he's like, "i did it. sorry. i didn't think i did it, but it's clear that i did. >> trace: "my bad," yeah. >> he's the only one not under an investigation, but every time this happens it makes it look better for the person before. when it happened to biden, it made trump look better, now it's gotten bad enough the hook for now. >> trace: finally, the secret brett kavanaugh documentary is reviewing the sexual assault allegations, and it's now been made. not a bit of evidence, zero evidence, and of course it was directed by michael avenatti. >> it was doug lyman, who did "the bourne identity," "mr. and mrs. smith." sorry about that, angie and

brad. but it focused on deborah ramirez, and it was an assassination attempt. it wasn't an investigative documentary. >> i haven't seen it but i have read about it. all they come up with is that the fbi didn't aggressively follow up on tips. that's what they have. we are talking about things that happened 30 plus years ago. >> trace: does the movie have anything about beers with bobo or whatever his name was? thank you both. putting the events of tonight in perspective with our reporters who have been out in the field covering past protests, that is next. >> i am meteorologist marcia torres and here's a look at your saturday forecast. to get off on the west coast, quite across the west. we have some snow through the northern rockies and that arctic air blasting through the northern plains into the central plains where it's going to feel quite cold. then you make it further into the south and we do have some

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there was some smoke coming up. unclear if that's from a fire. we don't know if the protests are peaceful or not, but we will keep our cameras on, and we will get back with any breaking news as it happens. meantime, we are back with the nightcap crew, ashley strohmier, kevin corke, christina clement, eric messersmith, all journalists, and tonight's topic is the tale of the tape. multiple national stories tonight where new video was released. kevin corke, t for us. what struck you the most about the populace he taped? >> the incomplete nature of it. while we do see some of the video from outside the home and just a bit from inside, i would like to know what else there is available. as you know, the d.a. wanted to sort of hang onto this for a while, so i would like to see if this is the entirety of it or if, as i suspect, there is more available. >> trace: there's always a little more context we can add. the beating of tyre nichols, did you look at it and think, "good lord hewitt" >> that's tough to

watch. the family of tyre nichols knows the pain so many american families have known, which is sometimes interaction between a potential suspect and law enforcement can result in death. what i'd like to see more of is what happened in this case, which is, if there is clear evidence, or apparently clear evidence, that they take quick, swift, and certain action. it appears they've done just that. >> trace: ashley journalist >> i think he was trying to kee. but you saw him step back, and i thought that's when the police should have stepped in before he reached for the hammer. obviously you can't play monday morning quarterback in a situation like that because it was so fluid, but i think he was trying to keep the guy. >> trace: and what about tyre nichols? >> i just hope there can be justice for tyre and his family, but this proves -- this is coming from the wife of an nypd counterterrorism officer, i

think there needs to be more training across the board for police and every department and it needs to be something that they really hit hard in the coming years. >> trace: that's a fair assessment. it's all about training. sometimes police reform might be retraining some of these people. >> i have many family members in the police and i do think it's time. i think this is a shout out across the board. this is time for real. >> the 911 call blew me away. he mentioned pelosi, he mentioned the capitol police. i was struck at the nature that this professional 911 did not have the information. >> trace: to me it was absolute code and what he was doing was brilliant, because he was trying to be diplomatic and trying to convince someone on the other end that he needs

help. >> it was terrifying, and props to him in the moment for being able to think on his feet and keep that call alive. and it showed you a lot of the conspiracy theories turned out to not be true. he almost wish this would've come out sooner. >> trace: it's amazing. and tyre? >> it's time for some police reform and maybe this can galvanize what we really need, which is bipartisan solutions. >> trace: i always worry that police reform is just code for defunding the police are going after police. your thoughts? >> i hope they don't take that direction. if anything, police need more funding in this case. i was really struck by, when the officers approached the vehicle initially and that surveillance video, they seem so angry. they were cursing, they were upset. if someone came to your car door like that, how would you react to? and how comfortable the officers were in this video, even kicking this man while he was on the ground, which leads me to believe that perhaps this wasn't

their first time. i know there will be ongoing investigation but i'm curious to see if any complaints have been filed against these officers before. >> trace: it really is amazing. we are out of time. michelle paulino, eric messersmith, christina coleman, ashley strohmier, and kevin corke, thank you. ashley strohmier, enjoy your four months on the early "fox & friends" show. thank you for watching america's late news. i am trace gallagher in los angeles. we will see you on monday.

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