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will: fox news alert and protesters reacting overnight as memphis police department released body cam footage of the death of tyre nichols. rachel: dell straiters shuts down a -- demonstrators shuts down a major highway as protesters took to the street. pete: lawrence jones is here with harrowing footage and alexandria hoff live with the protesters and charles is in washington with a look at the
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video. reporter: good morning. prior to the video's release, we were told it would be inhumane and savage and appears the videos live up to the descriptions and it all started earlier this month an january 7 when memphis police officers pulled over tyre nichols. body cam video shows an officer aggressively yank nichols out of his vehicles and the 29-year-old tells officers he wants to go home. nichols escapes from police and they tase him as he takes off down the road and at that point officers chase him and later on other officers spot him and catch up to him. nichols is on the ground as officers restrain him, punch him, and pepper spray him. all the while the officers are demanding he give them his hands as nichols calls out for his mother. >> mom! mom! mom!
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mom! mom! reporter: now, even though it appears officers have control of nichols, the assault continues. at one point you see an officer kick nichols in the head at least twice as if he's punting a football and then officers proceed to pass nichols around again punching him in the face and striking him with a baton before he collapses and is later dragged and propped up against a police car for several minutes without having any aid rendered and took more than 20 minutes for a ambulance to arrive on the scene. instead officer can be heard talking amongst one another claiming nichols had his hand on one of the officer's guns. >> he was going for my gun too so i'm like -- >> he grabbed the gun. >> yeah, i ain't -- look. we got him at the car. swung, pow, he hit me. >> he reached for my gun. it was on from there.
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he nearly had his hand on my gun. reporter: now to be clear, in the body cam videos, we don't actually hear or see any of those officers say that nichols grabbed their gun. there's also a lot of people out there disputing that that ever happened and additionally we're also lea learning that the shely county sheriff's department has relieved two deputies on scene after that violent beating of nichols and they say those deputies are now under investigation pending -- they're now under investigation as an internal investigation is underway, guys. pete: thank you so much, charles. outrage over nichols death sparking protest across the nation. rachel: we're learning more about tyre nichols, the son and father that considered becoming a police officer. will: alexandria hoff is live in washington with more. alexandria.
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reporter: most of the gatherings last night were peaceful and outrage boiled over in some places. memphis in particular where protesters marched for over an hour shutting down a four-lane freeway after the graphic body cam footage was released. in new york city a handful of demonstrators can be seen stopping on police cars while they were yelling burn it down and they appear to have tear gas in an effort to disburse an out of control crowd outside of the police department headquarters. tyre nichols grew up about 350 miles north of there in sacramento and he relocated to memphis and his family described the 29-year-old as a joyful person a loving son and father to a 4-year-old boy. there's no indication that nichols had any criminal record. his mom describes him as near perfect and described what he was doing before being stop bid police on january 7. >> he was on his home. he goes to shelby farms every weekend to watch the
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and law enforcement from the governor's office. i interviewed these guys and know these guys and they said it was the worst they've ever seen. looking at video, i just cannot get past the amount of police policy that was broken in this video. when they arrived to the scene, they were out of control. out of control the in a moment they arrived at the scene. you know why officer's safety issue, when you arrive at the scene, it's not just about the suspect, the potential suspect but your safety. you don't roll up on a car like that. you don't know if a person has a gun, a knife or anything. there was no consideration so that tells me they weren't in fear of their life because officers conduct themselves in a different way when they fear for their life. so they roll up to the scene, drag him out of the car, then he takes off running which is obviously you can't do that. that's breaking protocol, but
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then the constant beating, to say that you're going to break his arm. when he says is this really necessary. i mean at this point, i may be running and then the shot after shot as they took turns, out of breath by the way, don't know how to use a baton. cross firing your tasers, shooting each other with the mace because you don't know how to use it properly. i mean, there was just so much -- and people say training. yes, cops need more training. yes, there's a lot of rookies but they were an elite unit and the training that is necessary for that type of stop is basic police one-on-one. now, we have fair and honest conversations on this couch all the time. for these cops to be black and know the conversations going on in black america and then you go out there and make it worse, you didn't just dishonor your badge. you made it hard for all the cops out there every single day
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that want to do the right thing that want to bring communities together, and you're a black cop and you know the talk that's been given, and you make it harder for the other cops. i have no respect for these guys and, yes, they do have constitutional rights, and they will get a trial by jury, but the damage they have done to america, to -- cops are the only profession that are judged by the few. it's sad, but it's a reality. we got to talk about it. it's not fair to the other cops. i'm around cops every single day, some people say you have become the crime reporter at fox. that's all db of interaural is talk with cops. everyone is ashamed by these officers. you know, i was talking to one of our friends the other day, i'm just curious what happened before they went after mr. nichols because they were amped up the moment they came to this scene. i want to know what happened. was there a murder scene you guys were at? what is the explanation for
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being that high for a traffic infraction? right, something that's going to go to the municipal court, not even county court because it doesn't rise to their standard. there's so much wrong with this. i feel for their families as well because they're going to have to see this as well. as family members, you have family's back, that's what you do. you do something wrong, you don't excuse the action but you got to answer for their mistakes. and black america is going to be a whirlwind for them. that's just the honesty. rachel: lawrence, it's a really interesting perspective and so much is spot on. you're ashamed for them; right. what about the chief of police because ultimately this, as you mentioned, basic one-on-one police tactics or strike thaty or whatever they do in these
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kinds of stops were broken. i mean, she's kind of on tv saying, yeah, this is really bad but leadership matters, it goes to the top. >> leadership matters and, look, this scorpion unit is kind of similar to the new york anticrime unit. just to be candid, you give those units a little bit flexibility of what they have to deal with. can i just be real about it? everyone is like saying, oh, we keep them in check. that's not true; really. you want to keep them in check, but you give them a little latitude because of what they got to go against. they're going to go against gang bangers and people on the street saying you've got to conduct yourself a little bit differently on the streets. you give them a little rope but you got to be careful when you give them too much rope because they start stepping out of policy, no one wants to have that conversation right there. these guys, they went way over the line. and that tells me this is a department that's not checking that unit at all. at all. but to give them -- let them
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wear plain clothes and plain unmarked cars because you want them to be embedded in the community. some of the gang bangers are their sources so you got to let them move a little different than your traditional rank and file officer. but it's obvious this unit is under control and what else is not being taked about is every case they're apart of will be under review. so you may have legitimate criminals that will be probably back on the street all because they couldn't hold their temper. i mean, this is a skate board kid. he didn't say momma. he said mom because mom is three streets away. he's crying for his mom. rachel: that's heart breaking. >> the last thing that got me at the end and i can't unsee it is the fist bump at the end. rachel: i didn't catch that. >> oh, yeah, i watched all five videos and the fist bump at the end of this after torturing someone at the scene and one point they held him up and
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stopped with the cuffs and started to exchange taking shots at him. you dishonored the badge, you made it -- the recruitment for officers is already low. no one wants to do the job because they're being demonized. you know that, and you were selfish. you didn't care about -- it's a humanity issue, we talked about it this morning and you didn't care about his life or the lives of your brothers and sisters that you call; right, that are on the force. they're going to have to deal with the consequences of your actions because recruitment is going to go back down. there's going to be more rage on the street, there's going to be more anti-cop rhetoric. the black officers that are -- that get it the worst by the way, they're going to have to take so much. i have seen black officers stand in a line; right, and slurs, selloff, everything because you're holding down the system and you have five cops that are
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black that know that, and now you got to -- you're going to be in jail while your fellow officer haves to deal with that. there's so much wrong with this case. i will say this that gives me comfort and the way the governor and the tbi tendency bureau. i went on the ride along and cop not a wokester and believing equality application and the way we do it and if we trust the system, there's really no reason to be not that there's ever a reason to set buildings on fire. we should be applauding what they're doing. this should be served as a model of the country and how we handle this case and by the way, they deserve a lot of credit because they did this before the video was released. they didn't cave to public persons. they saw it, they dealt with it,
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they reprimanded them and took them off the force and charged them with all the charges they could. well done. pete: well done. the officer saying he went for my gun. we were talking before the segment. like they knew right away that they went over the top. they were playing for the camera. >> these are guys that have come off the high; right, supervisor most likely is at the scene now, finally, i don't know what took you so long to get to the scene, to get these guys under control. but he's asking them what's going on? what happened? to go for the gun. there was one point the kid was in a fetal position on the ground. i don't believe it. i don't believe it. you know, this is going to be a rough couple weeks for law enforcement, for the community. there's going to be -- will and i always have conversations off air like we always do of what is appropriate to discuss.
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let's lay it all on the table. have the conversations that need to be had, but also this is not a time to say that the system doesn't work. the system worked this time, and it's been working for awhile. i know people are saying there's no racial component to it because everyone is black. but there's a racial component because deep in black america, there's conversations that are had. and so i know the libs on cnn and msnbc making it their own type of spin and the white supremacy nonsense. no one cares about that and people say why do we have black cops that allegedly probably judging by where they're from had the same talks with their family members before go out there and do something like that. those are the conversations. the academics and media pundits. they're not part of that -- rachel: what is black america
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tells itself right now in light of this? >> like uh-huh, they're part of the system. which is not true because i grew up wanting to be a cop. the trust they broke i learned as a police explorer at 15 years old of what to do and whatnot to do. arrived at the scene, didn't check the trunk. you just reach in the car and grab someone out. you don't know what the person -- these are basic procedures that you learn in the academy. that you learn as a police explorer and policing 101. rachel: they're an elite unit. >> they're an elite unit -- pete: it's like special operations in the military. like your green bernards healthcare rays and sales -- berets and sales will get latitude and do things if plain clotheds. >> get a bit more kick with latitude but looks like you guys got the wrong guy too.
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okay. so that's why i keep saying, what happened before this? >> that's what pete's been asking all morning too. pete: what happened because tvs so fast. they were so aggressive so quickly. was it just the cultural of how they omitter or something we didn't see in the video that transpired beforehand because you're right, they get straight into that door, which normally you wouldn't do and that is a missing piece of information that we have. >> i want to know and just for the record because i know the media likes to watch this show and grab clips, when i say before this, i don't mean just what happened at this stop, i mean what stop did they conduct before this? a lot of conversation about cops going for a murder scene and i want to know what was going -- i'm trying to reason with five grown men beating the you know what out of a skinny little man. and taking turns. i want to know what was going
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through their minds before this stop. it doesn't make any sense. will: really fascinating and a great conversation and something i an sis pate you'll continue oe on cross country tonight. rachel: thank you, lawrence. will: unc chapel hill with diverse speakers and they break down the importance of free speech on campus. rachel: taking to china-owned tiktok about getting kicked off the house intelligence committee and being roasted online and that's coming up.
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thank you for being here. this is hard to see but the fact that something like that has to exist is a indictment of higher education but you're saying we're going to start a school within the school with all spectrums of use. >> well, good morning and thanks for having me. pete: good morning. >> i would start by saying really this is all about balance. at the university of north carolina and chapel hill, we clearly have a world class faculty that exists and teaches students and creates leaders of the future. we however have no shortage left of center progressive views on our campus like many campuses across the nation. but the same really can't be said of rite of center needs and this is an effort to try and remedy that with school of leadership and it'll provide equal opportunity for both views to be taught at the university. pete: it's not unique to unc.
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you have a world class professors, all of which will left wing and as a result this is an attempt to say let's have conservatives, libertarians, moderates, left wingers in this particular part of the school so students can choose to take courses in this alternative school or courses from the university. how does it work? >> that's correct. well, this is all about individual freedom and intellectual vigor. we want that to be alive at the university of north carolina at chapel hill. research shows that students especially conservative students routinely self-center themselves at many of america's leading colleges and universities, including here at north carolina. we want to provide that opportunity for students to express themselves to learn and develop the skills necessary to be leaders of the future. in an earlier segment this morning, we heard from former
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congressman harold ford on your show who talked about thoughtful disagreement and the ability to find solutions by talking and including multiple opinions. we've got to move that idea to the classroom and help to lead and teach to make our society great in the future. future. ped, a universal board of trustees at a prominent university to recognize the prominent one and do something about it and in the future leads the entire university system to being balanced, which is what it was supposed to be at the beginning and david boliek, thank you for bringing us a bit of good news this morning. >> thank you, have a great day. pete: you too. wonder how we got here and create separate universities to get balance?
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we've got answers. don't miss season 2 of the miseducation of america. it's available right now on fox nation. five episodes, very bingable and helps explain how we got here, unions, standards. why do we get rid of phonics and instead have a whole world method. how are we transitioning kids in middle school to a new gender and we have the insidious background on how this happens on the misinformation of america season 2 on fox nation. i hope you'll check it out. it's worth your time. as migrant crossings hit a record high, we're getting a look at the crisis and following the money led us all the way to george soros. will and i go off the wall to explain. and oh, the irony. congressman iowa h adam schiff o china about getting kicked off
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>> hello, i'm congressman adam schiff with troubling news. today kevin mccarthy removed for from the house intelligence excite committee for doing my job and holding trump accountable and standing up to the extreme maga republicans. will: there's democrat adam schiff using chai 's own tiktok to complain about being booted off. our next guest accused the california congressman of leaking classified information and abusing his prior position. fox news cricketer and former sec -- contributor and sector of state of never give an inch mike pompeo joins us now to react. glad to have you with us mike, thank you. >> thanks for having me on this morning. will: you bet. start with adam schiff. so kicked off his committees and then there's an effort on the
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behalf of matt gaetz to take away his access to classified information. do you agree and what would be the case? >> i do think that makes sense. i wrote about this long before that book was finished long before kevin mccarthy made what was in fact the right decision to remove him from the house intelligence committee. look, i had served with adam schiff when i was a member of congress on the intelligence committee and seen the way he operated and when i was ca director i watched as we provided information to them and ended up in the press when shared with him or his staff sharing information with the press and we can all see these last four years and him telling the story of the russian hoax saying there's more information coming and i know stuff you don't know. he told the american people he abused his position on the committee and had secrets he couldn't share and that was all false and had no secrets and knew he had no secrets and put the russian hoax on the country
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for two and a half years and shouldn't be anywhere near the intelligence committee in congress. will: his access to classified information to his relationship and usage of tiktok, which has been banned across several states when it comes to using government accounts then as the argument he is in fact a national security risk with access to that kind of information? >> look, i think there ought to be an investigation when anyone leaks classified information or anyone tells people that they have classified information that they don't think they have, that's the appropriate role for folks to look into. when that investigation is complete, they'll make the right decisions. the house has the authority to make all of the decisions it needs. but you suggested something else, this is someone who's now shown he's reckless. i've said for almost half a decade tiktok needs to go away and out of the u.s. and decided to share a major announcement on the chai niece intelligence apparatus and encouraging young kids and voters to go to tiktok
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and see him. that shows a fundamental misunderstanding of american security and i hope if he decides to run for the senate he'll be rejected and i hope we get to the bottom and don't have classified information in the wrong places and adam schiff has shown she's not capable of handling the most sacred opportunity. will: your new book fighting for the america i love is out now and a fax nation special airing at 10:00 p.m. on sunday on fox nation. i think we have an exempt from the book itself where you write the following regarding meeting the north korean dictator, you say the small, sweating, and evil man tried to break the ice with all the charm you'd expect from a mass murder, mr. director, he opened, i didn't think you'd show up. you've been trying to kill me and my team and i have prepared for this moment but a joke about assassination was not on the list of things he'd say when he
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greeted you but i was director of the cia so maybe his bondmont made sense. what can we expect in never give an inch? >> great stories just like that. four years of the trump administration and we put the american people first. you'll see some very personal stories as well about the return of hostages and how we got these folks home without apologizing for america paying for it. you'll get to see behind the scenes of how we always focused on the american economy, the american people, and american security, and we delivered for four years. no wars, more peace, more proprosperity here at home and that's the good work you'll see in the book. it's a lot of fun and a good read and hope folks will take a look. will: never give an inch out now and there'll be a fox news channel special form night at 10:00 p.m. eastern time. mike pompeo thank you for being with us this morning. >> thanks for having me on this morning. so long, sir. will: still ahead, back to fox news alert and body cam footage released in the horrific beating
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victory yesterday mcdaniel told fox news this would be her last term as head of rnc. there was 111-55 was the final vote. hundreds of climate activists in the netherlands blocking the main roadway into the hag this morning and protesters going forward with the major disruption despite warnings from police that dangerous blockades would result in arrest. several protesters seen taken away by officers during the demonstration but hard core climate protesters in europe did get a win this week when the eu approved meal worms and house crickets as suitable sources of food. they're going back to eating bugs in europe. going backwards to go forwards. those are your headlines. that looks like a group that might like bugs. rachel: they're building back better, pete. pete: yes. rachel: all right, back to top story and this is a serious one. memphis police released the body
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camera video showing the brutal beating of tyre nichols. the hbo host bill maher says this shows america's culture of violence goes keeper than race. listen. >> a black man is brutally beaten in memphis by five cops, they're all black. what i'm asking is america's cultural of violence, is does go deeper than race; right, and this mono-focus we have on race is short circuiting us trying to fix some of the realer problems. rachel: here to react is dr. bob woodson from the woodson center founder and president. dr. woodson, you're the perfect guest to have on this morning and i thought what bill maher said was really interesting because it was black on black. we had lawrence jones here earlier and he said, you know, there's going to be some really interesting tough conversations in the black community because they were all black. give us a window into what some of those conversations look
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like. what are blacks telling themselves in light of this horrific video? >> well, fir of all, thanks for having me on. rachel: of course. >> i think lawrence jones is right and bill maher is spot on and i've said for years, it is not the sexual race of the ruler that determines winners or losers but the value of the rulers. for a long time the great promise of the civil rights movement -- electing black people to office and our problems will be solved. if you have people going in and implementing the same rules, it won't work. it's when you detach people from the values. for instance samuel adams said a disillusion of principles and manners will overthrow liberties of america than the whole force of a common enemy. jesse jackson said something in '78 when the civil rights movement was on a morally solid ground and the neighborhoods on
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the verge of ethical collapse and morally weak people not only inhibit their own growth but finally contribute to the politics of decadents. this is what we were focusing on and that's why we must return to that. race is a deflection. it's preventing us from addressing the moral and spiritual free fall and consuming white kids in silicon valley two-parent households and the suicide rate is six times the national average. the homicide rate in the inner city is the leading cause of death and white, low income app appalachian, it's prescription drugs and america must realize we need to move beyond race to get away from the spiritual free false positives that's consuming us -- free fall that's consuming us and it won't work if we continue to let them concentrate their energies on the wrong
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issues. rachel: it's such a great point and i'm glad you expanded this out from black and white and there's white kids that commit suicide and feel hopeless and have no faith and spirit and nothing to look forward to. just as there are people in the inner city. one of the thins that i found a -- things i found a bit reassuring in this is the people on the ground, we saw interviews by sarah carter and interviewed people at the protest last night in memphis and they were saying this isn't about race. this is about leadership at the memphis police, you're saying this is about, you know, some other underlying issues, perhaps fatherlessness and the culture inside of the neighborhoods. so it seems like the people get that but as you said, there's going to be other people who profit for making it about race. >> it's a multimillion dollar industry and booker t washington
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said many years ago there's many people profiting off the grievance off the negro. if the negro loses grievance, he loses income. we brought voices of black mothers, mothers that lost children of homicide and brought them together with some of the white moms from silicon valley and apalachia and we had a round table sharing common ground and that's the kind of coalitions we need to be forming. when black america has to address the crisis on within, i have said that we must stop complaining about what white folks did to us and come together to address the crisis, the enemy within. rachel: yeah. it's a spiritual battle. there's so much hopelessness that goes across, you know, racial divides and economics divides. i love this idea of uniting
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those moms together. i know when i saw that video of tyre nichols mom, i just felt connected to her as a mom. not through race or anything else so thank you for what you're doing at the woodson center. it's powerful, it's much more complicated and dynamic than the easy answers about race that's being offered by the leaders. you are a true leader in america, mr. woodson. >> thank you so much. we must give voice to those suffering with a problem over the race mongers. 80% of black americans are against defunding the police. the mothers took out a full page ad in support of the police. i can show you examples of police being saved by people, black people so we really need to come together. rachel: yeah, i think that's what those other people don't want, but we can do it. thank you, mr. woodson. it's so great having you on the show.
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will: every month the number seems to get bigger and more astounding and mind blowing and 250,000 migrant encounters and the highest ever recorded and data shows that non--governmental organizations or ngos helped fund many of their journeys. pete: we talk about this number as a problem but there's plenty of people out there who want it to be bigger if they can. who funds those organizations? according to public record, a lot of that money ties back to this guy, right here, george so soros, let's learn more going off the wall. will: pete and i were talking about this heading into the segment but the challenging thing and maybe the revealing thing about this segment of off the wall is quite honestly when i hear the word ngo or nongovernmental organization, i'm already board. i think to some extent, pete, that's by design. pete: that's kind of the point. when you see some of the organizations, their names are very benign and forgettable
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pete: atheist releases and the organizations. will: the immigration equality center, the american immigration counsel and i'll bounce all the way to the end as well and national immigration loss center. >> they sound the same. will: pete, by design your brain hears white noise. what does it all mean? each and every one of these have a specific purpose funding a specific vision of america. pete: it starts with funding from soros and then turns into government funding. what do groups like this do at american immigration counsel, pushing for sanctuary cities and building up the infrastructure for sanctuary cities and the law center focuses on welfare benefits for illegals.
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it's not just about helping illegals come across the boarder and making them a permanent presence and the magnet and using these organizations to push it. will: next the vera institute of justice founded in 19 60s by a group of new york radicals and it was designed and it has evolved into helping fund the idea of defunding the police. what's fascinating about this is we focus on vera and what pete eluded to a moment cassioppi ans contributed to the vera institute and not long afterwards guess who steps in and funds the ngos and how about the government of the united states. pete: not just a little bit. there was a contract awarded to the vera institute of justice initially for a couple of -- i don't know what the total amount of money was and millions of dollars. if it is re-upped again. they'll get up to $983 million from the government to help
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unaccompanied minors to help defund the police and the contracts keep growing because the problem continues and george soros-funded institute works with the government to keep facilitating the problem. that's what george soros wants. will: to almost a tune of $1 billion. soros has a specific vision of the future and world and a specific philosophy and now the government is helping fund organizations that execute that philosophy and what are we paying for as american taxpayers? take a look at these organizations and these ngos who again have ties to vera and ties to open society. pete, the center for justice, $41 million from taxpayers and what does aca cia do? pete: fight deportation for illegals. it's fighting against deportation of illegals against ice and funding the other side of what ice is trying to do.
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will: straight to fox news alert, protesters across the country reacting overnight after the memphis police department released body cam footage of the police-involved death of tyre nichols. pete: demonstrators in memphis shutting down major highways as large groups took to the streets. rachel: don bongino us live with his reaction and alexandria hoff is live with his look at the protest. >> a look at
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