♪ >> join us tomorrow for the post-game show, state of the union analysis. >> we'll be watching tonight. i'll be on "outnumbered" today. >> i will be on the big money show big weather channel and radio. >> have a great day, everyone. >> bill: good morning, let's get at it. tensions with beijing over a boiling point over the downing of the spy flight. lawmakers pushing for answers. two major hearings about to begin in washington, d.c. as we say hello on a tuesday. i'm bill hemmer. good morning to you. >> dana: good morning. good to see you. i'm dana perino. this is "america's newsroom." we have a busy day and the next 48 hours are really important not for the white house but the republican-led house is about to hold two major hearings on china. the first one dealing with thugs nall security issues. the other focusing on the economic threat.

looming over it all the latest and boldest example of chinese spying on u.s. soil. >> bill: that's the chinese spy craft shot down over south carolina. the military is in the process of recovering debris as we speak. crews combing through search area the size of 15 football fields. they've already apparently pulled some pieces from the water and taking those to the f.b.i. lab in quantico for analysis. >> dana: republicans are pummeling the white house to allow the air ship to spend days over military sites. >> the president, through the national security advisor directed the military to refine and present options to shoot the balloon down immediately. to collect the bull balloon. >> we took maximum precaution to prevent any intel collection. i was in close coordination with the united states strategic

command and we provided counter intelligence messages out of our intelligence shop across the entire department of defense and interagency so that we could take maximum protective measures while the balloon transited across the united states. >> bill: reaction. house homeland security chair mark green joins us. griff jenkins and we begin the bryan llenas after the coast of myrtle beach, south carolina. what's happening this hour? >> good morning. the conditions this morning much better than they were yesterday as the salvage operation continues. we're on a boat six miles off the coast of myrtle beach. our fox news drone team has footage of the salvage operation. you can't see much from where we're at. from the air you can make out those ships that are doing this salvage operation. we're told the majority of the

debris on the surface has been picked up by the military and is making its way to the f.b.i. lab in quantico. this operation is now moving towards an underwater operation. debris is 50 feet under water where they are trying to get the pieces of china's spy air ship. we're told it's the size of a regional aircraft several thousand pounds, debris field the size of 15 football fields by 15 football fields. monday morning the u.s. ns pathfinder began mapping the ocean floor using sonar and underwater vehicle technology to locate the debris. it is collected on board the u.s.s. carter hall. f.b.i. and naval criminal investigative service agents are embedded with the salvage.

yesterday general, the commander of norad and north command spoke to the press by phone saying they had eyes on the surveillance balloon before it approached alaska but chose not to shoot it down. it did not demonstrate hostile intent. it allowed the military to collect intel. >> this gave us the opportunity to assess what they were actually doing. what kind of capabilities existed on the balloon and what kind of transmission capabilities existed. i think you will see in the future that time frame was well worth its value to collect. >> water conditions can change in south carolina in the winter. the general warning to the public it is possible the debris could make its way on shore to myrtle beach and other parts of south carolina. they say to call law enforcement and don't take any of that debris. >> bill: thank you. bryan llenas after the coast of

myrtle beach. >> dana: less than an hour from now the house armed services committee will dig deeper into china spying poses to u.s. defense. what to expect. >> good morning. you can expect fireworks to fly at 10:00 a.m. when the committee chaired by mike rogers gavels in. there are partisan concerns over tensions in the military read enes. we'll hear from lawmakers for the first time since the spy balloon was shut down. carlos jimenez is concerned about the message sent to china. >> one trying to spy on the united states crosses u.s. airspace should be shot down immediately. not have them traverse the entire united states and shoot it down. bad signal and message. >> former trump national security advisor robert o'brien

and former commander of the u.s. pacific command as witnesses today. they will address past instances of chinese spy balloons and the decisions the biden administration made over the past few days with some wondering if the balloon would have been shot down had it not been discovered over montana. the president was asked about that yesterday. >> has it always been your view to shoot down a chinese spy balloon or was it only because it became public? >> oh no, always my position. shoot it down as soon as it is appropriate. >> does this change your speech tomorrow night and your foreign policy? >> no. >> the house financial services committee will look into the economic threat china poses today also. >> bill: want to bring in congressman mark green republican from tennessee chairman of the homeland security committee. let's get to it. we heard from the general from

sin com twice but a critical quote. listen to the last phrase he uses about previous incursions on behalf of beijing. watch. >> every day as norad commander it is my responsibility to detect threats to north america. i will tell you that we did not detect those threats and that's a domain awareness gap we have to figure out. >> what does that mean to you, domain awareness gap? it sounds like it is a problem. >> it sounds like a significant problem, bill. the initial knee jerk response from the administration was trump knew about it. and what they really -- what the truth is, trump administration and secretarys per have all said they never heard anything about this. they went back and looked at the tapes of previous radars and

things like that and discovered that they saw something but they didn't attribute it to a balloon. of course now in retrospect with the information they have, this is in the previous administration, they realize there was possibly an incursion then. but for a fact they know during this administration they had a balloon come through and did nothing. so this is the actual second balloon that has come through during the biden administration. >> bill: sir, this is the "washington post" editorial. the frenzy over the spy balloon is dangerous. war with china can and should be avoided but we can make it likely and giving vent to exaggerated fears about chinese power. they alarmed americans about the threat it poses. how do you approach that opinion? >> i think that's absolutely absurd. this was an invasion of the

united states airspace by chinese spy balloon. the fact that it was allowed. the fact that someone gave the president the advice not to shoot it down before it traversed over what appears to be 21 military installations is indefensible. the fact there are general officers who said let's not shoot this down is a huge problem for america. >> bill: conversely the "wall street journal" poses it this way. seen any other spy balloons lately? an $850 billion defense budget and we can't detect a chinese air ship? what will you learn today? >> hopefully the armed services committee will dig into committee who knew and who made the decision and recommendations not to shoot it down. as we compete with china, we have to advance our technology but we also have to have general officers warriors who will not allow a spy satellite to traverse over 21 military

installations. the fact they're there -- secretary austin comes to the armed services committee time and time again and says the pacing threat is china. if that's the pacing threat why are you allowing this emotion to fly a spy balloon over our country and military installations? it is absurd to suggest that's okay. >> bill: thank you for your time. busy day. appreciate you spending a little bit to kick it off this morning. thank you, sir. tonight big state of the union address. does he go there? >> dana: i read this morning there will be a reference but not a paragraph. a passing mention, i imagine. >> bill: we'll wait and see. >> dana: as mark green pointed out. what he said about secretary austin always saying china is the pacing threat. what do we do about it? i don't know if we hear about it tonight but the hearings will be important. the house oversight committee is holding a hearing on the biden administration's handling of the border crisis.

lawmakers will hear from two border chiefs the administration initially blocked from appearing coming as border officials raise the alarm over the growing amount of drugs seized at the border and the number of migrants illegally entering the u.s. a lot of scrutiny over mayokas over the dire situation. >> bill: the story has gotten worse by the hour. images and video out of turkey and northern syria. two massive quakes level entire city blocks. 5,000 confirmed dead. unknown number trapped beneath the rubble. the latest on the search for miracles and survivors coming up. >> dana: a major development in the alex murdaugh double murder trial. the judge ruling his alleged financial crimes are indeed fair game for the prosecution. does that strengthen the chance of a conviction?

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>> bill: this is stunning news in a stunning number. more than 5,000 said to be dead, confirmed dead after two major quakes in turkey and northern syria. emergency crews racing the clock to dig through the rubble of collapsed buildings in a desperate search to find survivors. senior foreign affairs

correspondent greg palkot live in the disaster zone in turkey with more today. got to be a tough one, greg. >> myself and my team have been traveling across this country all today. we've landed here in the town they simply called morash. we came first because this is where it started. 7.8 on the richter scale. the earthquake sent shock waves throughout this whole country. i'm standing in front of a very long line of cars waiting to get gas. there are shortages of gas, shortages of water, shortages of electricity. the real problem and what we've been seeing as we've been driving in here are buildings, homes, apartment houses, office buildings crushed, flattened like pancakes due to the strength of this earthquake. the latest estimate over 5,000 dead. the injured in the tens of

thousands. a state of emergency has been called by president erdogan here in turkey for the next three months. as we've been coming in alongside us at the airport and elsewhere we've been seeing teams and teams of international squads coming to help out bringing their sniffer dogs, by the way, united states will be bringing in two teams and they will amount to something like 70 different countries participating in the rescue operations and it is absolutely, bill, a race for life. it is freezing cold. we're just under freezing here now. at night it gets very cold here. the folks still trapped and the fear is that there could be thousands and thousands still trapped in the rubble, have maybe three days to live under these conditions. that's why they are hustling to get them out. it is a major issue. because it's a major issue for

the whole world. this region is a hot bed as you and your viewers know just across the border is syria with refugees here from that crisis. both on this side of the border and in syria itself just adding to the difficulties upon difficulties here. but in fact the world putting down a lot of its problems with each other, countries rivalries set aside to help out here. again, we've just arrived about five minutes ago in this town which was the epicenter of this quake and we'll explore it more as we spend some days here. >> bill: long days and weeks ahead for many an months as well. greg palkot on the ground in turkey. thank you, greg. back with you throughout the day. thanks. >> dana: there is a new poll spelling trouble for president biden ahead of his state of the union address tonight. the survey finds 62% of americans think he hasn't achieved much since taking office more than two years ago.

to counter that let's bring if senior advisor to the president mitch landrieu from there on the north lawn. thank you for being with us. a little bit more on this poll that came out. 60% of people say that the president has not created more good jobs in their community and has not improved roads and bridges has not made electric vehicles more affordable and hasn't dropped medication prices. what will the president say when theme are in a mood like this? >> the previous report is unbelievable. our thoughts and prayers go out and the united states will do everything to help the victims of that tragedy. the president is going to give the state of the union speech tonight and a good speech, an optimistic speech. he ran for president of the united states because he wanted to rebuild the backbone of the country and unite the country and restore the soul of america. the fact of the matter is in the

last two years he accomplished than most president in four. 10 million small businesses, 14 million jobs. prescription costs as you know are going down. it is not a surprise. you've done this before and worked for president bush that it takes time for things to click in. as you know when the president took over we had a massive covid problem in this country. we were in the midst of an insurrection. an economic crisis. as a matter of fact most of this stuff is kicking in right now. this year we'll have 20,000 projects funded by the bipartisan infrastructure build to rebuild roads, bridges, airports, clean air, water and high speed internet. the people will see that stuff coming out of the ground. when they do, they will begin to see the difference that the president has made. the economy is strong. president will talk about that tonight and now finish the job. >> dana: i hesitate to call you mitch. you have had so many titles and

earned every one of them. senior advisor so i'll call you mitch. michelle goldberg of the "new york times" progressive left columnist says in her column today biden is a great president. he should not run again. basically says that he doesn't think he would have the power to run for president for a 60-year-old it is a lot. for an 80-year-old it is an almost impossible task. what do you say to the democrats who say they don't want him to run again? >> first of all age is a number. the numbers that really matter are the ones that matter to the american people. when you say you've created 12 million jobs and you know this. you worked for president bush. if you could clock a number like that in two years is better than most presidents have done in four years you would say that's a pretty good job. if you would say get the unemployment rate to the lowest it has been in 50 years. you would say it's a good job. if you could unite americans and bring them together to pass historic legislation like we

haven't seen in 50 years. have you judge him on his record and work he is good to go. he understands america is in a difficult spot. we've come out of hell for the last six years and his stead' leadership and economic plan is working and a good vision for the country and his job tonight to talk to them about it and to make the case. at the end of the day that's what elections are about. >> dana: you are a good advisor for him. that was a democrat talking about that. specifically on infrastructure i wanted to ask oil and gas worker like in your state of louisiana. they are feeling that the deck is stockades against them because of the administration's policies and read from the national review. government is in the way. saying the federal government on purpose year after year has made it more difficult to americans to build things under the mistaken belief that doing so is necessary to protect the

environment. progressives have cheered every step of the way and they, not conservatives, are the ones committed to the regulatory status on construction. there is a huge pile of money, infrastructure can be a bipartisan thing but you cannot achieve any of these projects if they will be tied up in red tape and in courts for years. what is the administration planning to do on that in the next two years? >> first of all if i'm not the most impatient in the world i'm close. the president is the second most impatient person in the world. my name is could you hurry the hell up. how insistence the president is on making sure we rebuild. the first thing we thatted to think about is the fact that many presidents tried to get the money to do that. joe biden is the only one to deliver infrastructure dollars the likes of which you haven't seen since fdr. that's the first big thing. no other president could get it done. to get the money out the door we've pushed over $2 hundred billion out of the door. we have 20,000 projects in

formation. we have to learn how to build faster and better in the country. something we're working on with permitting reform. accelerators in place getting down to the ground. when we're building a clean energy economy it is about creating jobs not taking jobs away, getting ready to the transition for the future. i am from an oil and gas state and i have a son who works for the gas industry and talked to him getting ready for the future. no question climate is a dramatic problem for us in the country. if we don't figure out a pathway from where we are to where we're going we'll be in a hell of a mess. this president understands it. he wants to get the construction projects going as fast as possible. you saw him last week in baltimore, in new york, me at the golden gate bridge. these projects are starting to happen. when they come out of the ground the american people with see and

feel them and life easier because of it and the economy will grow as a result. by the way, the deficit will go down. >> dana: senior advisor, that's what they are saying to me from the control room. i have to run. great to have you on the show and see you after the speech tonight. thank you. >> bill: now 27 past. there is yet another tragedy for our nation's law enforcement. a milwaukee police officer shot and killed in the line of duty overnight. details murky. authorities say that officers were chasing a robbery suspect who opened fire during a confrontation there. >> one of our finest who put on that uniform, put on that badge, went into work last night and paid the ultimate sacrifice for protecting our community.

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>> bill: we're waiting three major hearings on the hill. a couple of those you'll see in

a moment here. a house hearing on the border crisis. you've got a focus on china's military. also china's economic threats to the united states. all that is happening now. the reason it's happening is because republicans got the majority. today is kind of the day to hear things. three will begin within 30 minutes' time and see what kind of progress they make from there one is called on the front lines of the border christ, a hearing with chief patrol agents. i was under the impression mccarthy was going to go to the border and hold a hearing there. is that a misimpression? >> dana: i believe they are going to do that. this is a prelude. one of the people testifying is gloria chavez. she is so smart and thoughtful, wise and empathetic and a wonderful witness. >> bill: counter argument for republicans before the state of the union tonight. they'll get headlines out there.

>> dana: it will be a different state of the union. we have divided government. we didn't have that in the last two years. something to watch tonight. on to south carolina. >> i find that the jury is entitled to consider whether the apparent desperation of mr. murdaugh because of his dire financial situation resulted in the commission of the alleged crimes. >> dana: the south carolina judge in the murdaugh double murder case is making a stunning decision regarding the disgraced attorney's financial crimes. prosecutors hope it will expose the motive for the murders of his wife and son. good morning, jonathan. >> the judge ruled that prosecutors can introduce this financial evidence and testimony as they attempt to establish the motive. he cautioned the jury that they should not use financial evidence to determine the defendant's character.

allegations that alec murdaugh misappropriated millions of dollars in funds belonging to clients, other attorneys and his law firm are central to the prosecution's theory the defendant killed his wife and son to create a distraction. his finances faced the threat of increased scrutiny after the family of 19-year-old mallory beach sued over her death in a boat crash allegedly caused by paul while intoxicated. >> alex said he was broke. he doesn't have any money. he may be able to coble together some amount of money but he is broke. i didn't believe it. so i filed a motion to compel. >> just days before a hearing to determine whether murdaugh would be compelled to hand over his financial records, the bodies of his wife and son were found shot on the family's hunting property. the defense argues the prosecution's theory on motive is unproven and the motion to compel financial records was to put pressure on murdaugh to

reach a more favorable settlement rather than proof of any impropriety. another debate in court is over the blue rain jacket found at the home of murdaugh's ailing mother. prosecutors say it tested positive for gunshot residue. the defense points out murdaugh and other family members were avid hunters and around guns all the time. it would make sense to have gunshot residue on their clothes and other belongings. >> dana: thank you. >> bill: he sets it up nicely for a criminal defense attorney jonna spilbor. trial continues. pick up on the last point. listen to shelly smith. the caregiver for alex murdaugh's mother. now the night of the murders he said he went to check on his mom. here is how the exchange went in court when she was on the stand. >> did alex murdaugh ask you to tell somebody how long he had been there? >> he said someone asks you i've

been here. he had like a tarp you could put on a car to cover it up. a blue. >> was he holding it like this? >> yes >> when you came back the next day was it there? >> no, it was gone. >> 30 to 40 minutes. did she say how long he actually stayed there. he has time to stash clothes. >> i viewed this witness as cutting both ways. she also testified tearfully about how much she loved the murdaugh family and how much she loved her job. whether she can say that alex murdaugh was there for 20 or 30 minutes or less to me is almost less important than the fact that she didn't want to testify against him. she didn't want to be there. she loved that family. i didn't look at her testimony as being some sort of lynch pin. what i did look at the ruling

yesterday by this judge really to allow the bad character evidence really, really turns the table against alex murdaugh and it will be a game changer for this trial. >> bill: how come? >> we do this all the time for any defendant. when you allow prior bad acts and tell a jury don't look at this evidence that this defendant has a bad character. we'll look at it for some exception to the rule. in this case the exception is the motivation. if i walk into your stud owe and i'm 600 pounds and said don't look at my weight that i'm fat but not motivated to go to the gym. at the end of the day the jury will look at me and say i'm fat like they will say he is a criminal and criminals are capable of committing murder. that's the game changer. that's what they'll do. >> bill: forensic expert said there was gun residue on the

clothing retrieved from his mother's home. the defense attorney will say they have guns all over this ranch. they were hunters on that 1700 acre property. does it score for the defense? >> i think it doesn't help or hurt that much. even the prosecution proved there were guns all over the place and they recovered a lot of guns. there was a berm for target shooting and evidence they target shoot. gun residue will get all over the place whether it's transferred or not. again just a small piece in the puzzle. i don't think it will be the lynch pin for this jury. >> bill: thank you, we'll talk later in the week as the trial continues in the low country. thank you. >> dana: there are two hearings today on the threat that china poses to the united states. happening today. in advance of the state of the union that the president of the united states will give tonight. debris collection right before jonna's interview they are

collecting that and bryan llenas is on a boat watching it happen and there has been a request from our government if any of this debris washes up on shore and you come into contact and you aren't sure what it is, they ask you please call them, turn it over to the government. they want to analyze every single bit of it. >> bill: they've taken to some pieces to the f.b.i. headquarters to give analysis. kate beddingfield was making the case of the state of the union address tonight. she was asked and this is how she addressed the findings thus far. >> we were able to gather more intelligence and more information and able to collect back on the balloon. we know more about chinese capabilities and trade craft as a result of that decision. and then we ultimately shot it down and sent a direct message to china it was unacceptable. >> dana: there is -- >> bill: 200 feet high mostly helium and a contraption on the

bottom. >> dana: he is pushing for all house members for getting a briefing but the gang of eight, the top four on each side will get an intel briefing soon and if it turns out to be the case. hopefully we'll find out. we'll move on to this on border security. >> congress must fix our broken immigration system. and congress must provide the necessary funds for border security. >> bill: vice president harris delegating her border czar duties to congress as the house oversight committee gets ready for its first hearing on border security. our cameras are ready on the hill. inflation high everywhere you look and american families feel it. how to keep control of your money. we'll talk to the experts next.

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>> i think the objective as is always the case for the president is to number one meet the american people where they are. with the recognition that the anxiety and ongoing challenges that families feel in their lives are -- the reality of a very challenging period. >> dana: national economic council director brian deese how the president will deliver his remarks in the state of the union address tonight. many americans struggling to make ends meet. we want to bring in dave ramsey and ramsey show host and a debt elimination expert. dave, one of the problems when the administration goes out and talks about how wonderful everything is an the job market is great and inflation coming down, in fact the press secretary this morning was on another network saying wages have gone way up. just take a look here call for

number one, wages versus inflation. wages up 4.4%. inflation 6.5%. asme -- i'm no math genius. >> the difference is called eggs. the cost of eggs. oh my gosh. let's have a little common sense even if we're in washington, okay? be observant and realize people are hurting because the economy is out of control and a lot of inflation. you can't talk yourself out of that. it is really there. you've really got to deal with it if you are a normal person in spite of the babbling going on in washington, d.c. >> dana: jade, if you look at this here. fox poll now your personal financial situation five times as many voters say they're falling behind financially as they are getting ahead. you know a little something about that. maybe tell us a little bit about your story and what you recommend people try to do now. >> at the end of the day you can't control those things but you can control what happens in

your own home. that's what my husband and i did. we were in $460,000 of debt and took control of that and started budgeting money and giving every dollar an assignment and paid off the debt using the debt snowball method and did whatever we could to increase our income and change our mind to make progress instead of excuses. there are a lot of excuses out there. >> dana: i'm happy for you. you are a bright, shiny light and probably relieved of that purchase den a-- burden. give tips on controlling your money. go through them. save or set aside $1 thousand in an emergency fund and go from there. >> that's a baby starter emergency fund to keep the little things off your life while you work off the debt snowball knocking off all your debt except your home. working smallest to largest.

we talked about the baby steps for 30 years teaching people how to do them but it is how you manage your way through hard times like this is with a freaking plan not sitting around waiting on the white house to fix stuff at your house. they never have republican or democrat fixed my house. it has been my job to fix my house. i build a 3 to 6 months expenses for an emergency fund and retirement and college and get the house paid off. the whole process takes seven years but it is the path to becoming wealthy regardless of the economy. >> dana: any last words of advice for people who might need inspiration today? >> yeah. i would say do something to change your situation. we've got so many resources here at ramsey solutions. head onto the website ramsey solutions.com/peace and find the right resources to change your situation today. >> dana: if i come to nashville can i have lunch with you? >> absolutely. >> dana: i would love to get to know you better. congratulations on your success. thank you so much, guys.

>> thank you so much. >> bill: dave, you can go to lunch with me. the search for accountability over the border crisis moments away from the house hearing looking for answers into the ongoing disaster. we'll take you there live. the president will talk up accomplishments tonight against the back drop of a chinese spy flight that crossed the entire united states. is he delivering for americans? karl rove will take that up coming up. my asthma felt anything but normal. a blood test helped show my asthma is driven by eosinophils, which nucala helps reduce.

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store with availability around the dinner table. like i said this commercial fishing dock they fish for everything from tuna, scallops, squid. one of the things they notice is the changing in the routes they have to take. oftentimes it is longer because of these wind farms popping up to make it more expensive and dangerous in certain conditions. then also can make it so that they have a smaller catch because they can't be out for as long. when you talk about what's actually happening with the survey boats. the real concern right now is the sound that is emitted. i'm on a scallop boat here. a bottom boat. they fish 120 feet down. the species down there rely on sound because it is pitch black. you can't see anything. i spoke to the captain of this boat. he knows all the stops. he has been doing it for 40 years. now with the development of these spots off the coast here in long island that institutional knowledge is going

away. listen. >> typically scallops live in the 120 to 160 foot depth and this is the exact lane that, you know, all 12 active sites are engaged in now. that was our bottom. >> you know that changes because when you have the sound emitted those species move around. we got to chance to talk to squid fishermen. they pulled some in today and they say they're seeing the impact because of the sound emitted. it's a big concern there. everyone i spoke to want more research and more answers, bill. >> bill: intriguing stuff and we'll follow it. nice to see you today. >> dana: two big hearings on china about to begin on capitol hill. the house armed services committee taking up the threat to national -- and the other with the economic threat days after th