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that vote and you had basically it come down to 536 votes after the recount. so you do see some fascinating trends and threads to pull and i'm sure we'll see more on the story. >> these are riveting hearings. >> great job last night. see you at 3:00. >> dana: harris faulkner is up next. >> breaking now a fiery hearing underway on capitol hill. the republican-led house is holding its first hearing to get to the bottom of the censorship of the hunter biden laptop story and how the feds were pushing twitter to do it. chairman james comer, republican from kentucky, leading the way to press former twitter executives on why they suppressed the bombshell reporting on hunter biden's laptop emails just before the 2020 presidential election. i'm harris faulkner and you are
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in "the faulkner focus." today's hearing comes after the twitter files exposed execs conversations around the hunter biden laptop story and the biden family business dealings. lawmakers looking to those witnesses, among them twitter's former deputy general counsel james baker to explain how the true story on hunter biden's laptop was censored by social mead and dismissed by media outlets including "the new york times" and "washington post" as disinformation. the republican and democrat leaders of the committee are already clashing from the jump. >> america witnessed a coordinated campaign by social media companies and intelligence community to suppress and delegitimize the existence of hunter biden's laptop and its contents. now mainstream media outlets have verified the laptop. the damage has been done.
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>> silly does not begin to capture this obsession. the conspiracy theory have gotten what they want, an apology. what more do they want 57bd why does congress have to be involve in the nonsense when we have serious work to do with the american people? >> harris: you watched when trey gowdy was in "focus" saying getting to the point is essential. this point in particular. >> jamie and jim and mike turner want to know was the government involved? this is not just a private company doing what they want. was the f.b.i. putting pressure on you? you had two people who knew from the get-go this was not russian disinformation, chris wray the head of the f.b.i. and john ratcliffe, the head of our intelligence community. somehow the media picked a bunch of former has beens that had no access to the intelligence, no access to the laptop and they
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believed them. >> harris: so while we do the fact checking and fact finding, the white house is doing spin through their binder of spin calling today's hearing a bizarre political stunt. if you keep track they called yesterday's border hearing a political stunt as well. maybe they were on the same page in the binder. sean duffy former wisconsin congressman and host of the bottom line on fox business. douglas murray, great to see you both. douglas, i will start with you. in the last few minutes we have seen those twitter executives get pressed on capitol hill about the facts. what are you learning so far? >> we're learning first of all is about the evasion by senior twitter executives about exactly what it is they did. their clear discomfort about the facts as they are coming out in weeks and months. we have had the twitter files that have been released since
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elon musk took over the company. and now we see them finally having to answer to politicians about this. they are very evasive. so far we have not gotten to the full truth of it. we already know how many questions there are to ask. i think they are deeply uncomfortable and understandably so. everybody who looked at this can see there was a significant political cover-up going on. the question is simply how high up in the democratic party and how high up in twitter that went on at. >> harris: all of that matters given it was happening so close to a presidential election in 2020, sean. >> the american people deserve to have all the information about all the candidates. twitter did a fantastic job of making sure the american people and voter didn't have all the information on joe biden and hunter biden. raskin as you came in was asking
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the question you got your hearing, we exposed information, what more do you want? what more do you want? we want to make sure it never happens again and make sure there is an open and consistent debate across all platforms where everyone can have their views shared and we don't have truth censors, one other point that's interesting to douglas's point these were nameless, faceless employees at twitter. they never thought they would be exposed and thought they could censor a very relevant, truthful story about hunter biden and never have to be exposed and sit in a hearing where all americans can look at them and hear the questions asked of them and how they can't answer them. the hunters have become the hunted in this hearing. it is really uncomfortable for these twitter execs but i think google and facebook are watching saying i don't want that to be me one day. let's play by a different tune.
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>> harris: you know what? bringing that right back to the point that douglas made, nameless and faceless is what sean is saying. it reminds me of the bots that must being. who thinks it was only happening at twitter? >> it had a lot of power. but other social media platforms did as well and continue to have that power. twitter and facebook and others were able to lock out of the accounts the account of america's oldest newspaper, the "new york post." if they could do that, they have the kind of power that the traditional press never had. a newspaper could decide what it ran in its pages but not decide that other newspapers couldn't be printed. that's the power that twitter had and facebook had ahead of the last election.
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it is an awesome amount of power. as we see very quickly, a lot of the story that the hunter biden laptop has been distracted to some of the unpleasant personal things of the now everyone admits owner of the laptop. the real questions were about the president's own business dealings. about the dealings that the biden family had in china, ukraine, and elsewhere. that was a story that was absolutely legitimate ahead of an election. >> harris: that is so critical what you are saying. it is almost like they are willing to acknowledge the laptop now is almost another shiny object you might want to take a look at. meanwhile the real information they want to get to in the hearing is what you laid out. has our president been compromised by any of the business dealings going on through his son? was our president part of those business dealings and can you use the laptop and its emails
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materials as receipts? you just brought it up. the wider media. a new study shows major networks are nearly completely avoiding coverage of all the recent hunter biden news. so they are not, you know, gas lighting us this time, they are trying to ignore it. th abc, cbs and nbc. the alphabet soup networks have been hiding unflattering information about the president's son. in recent weeks the founder of mrc sounding off. >> they are whitewashing this. they don't want the public to know about the biden family. i think -- i find it beyond horrifying and beyond disgusting that nbc, abc, cbs have the word news next to their names because there is nothing newsworthy about the product that they are
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delivering. >> harris: forensic cleansing. >> we all know they don't cover the news. they aren't news organizations. they are a wing of the democrat party. they do service, do cover-up for the democrat party and failings and attack republicans non-stop. this isn't news to me or to our viewers. the question becomes how do you navigate this as a democracy and as a free people? it comes back to the hearing and the news media, the role of f.b.i. and c.i.a. inside of government who hated donald trump as the president. wanted to see him defeated. what role did they play trying to push social media platforms to censor certain people or other stories that have an impact on our election? it goes to the very heart of do you have a democracy where you have the free will to vote on
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all the information out there or do you have the government agencies that control elections? this goes to the heart of our democracy and if we had news organizations that would actually report it and hold government accountable this country would be way better off. there is only one out there, fox news, the one you and i both work for that report the good, bad and ugly of every story. >> harris: i love getting the inside perspective. you are in media now but you were also on capitol hill and i would imagine would have been pushing some questions this morning as well. i can't imagine republicans even outside those chambers at that hearing aren't, you know, hey, ask this, ask that. you know, i wonder, douglas, do the other news media outlets realize that they are now not a free press when they become complicit in whatever is happening? if there are ways to show their complicit actions and they keep admitting stuff about the laptop
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quietly. >> we know that as well. released audio recordings from cnn say they completely openly the campaign is to get biden in. we know that. that was leaked by project veritas last year. they are completely open about that and one of the reason why their viewing figures have fallen off a cliff. there is an open discussion on these platforms. just to return to what we've been discussing about the complicity and the involvement of government in this. this is the shocking thing. as we said we had dozens of former intelligence agents signing a letter saying there is nothing to see here with the laptop. but we have learned in recent months since the matt taibbi have been releasing twitter files. >> harris: the chairman of the judiciary committee is speaking at the hearing with the three
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twitter executives. jim jordan. let's watch. >> twitter didn't give me access to my laptop but special agent chan has said publicly and the f.b.i. has confirmed those documents did not relate to hunter biden and that's my recollection. >> what did they relate to? >> any relations with f.b.i. entirely focused on what the f.b.i. called malign foreign interference. iranian involvement in the election and russian troll farms not domestic. >> any information on there classified? >> no, i don't hold a security clearance. i would not have received any classified information. >> who does hold the security -- 30 days out from the election another email to you from mr. chan. we get temporary clearances. you pick who they are. who were the people at twitter who had a security clearance? >> i'm not sure to be honest. we didn't follow through on the plan to get temporary clearances. >> did anyone at twitter have a
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security clearance? >> some did. i wasn't certain about that. >> do you know if yin one took up mr. chan's offer to hand out security clearances? >> not that i'm aware. >> we don't know how many people had security clear clearances at twitter do we know? anyone know how many people at twitter had a security clearance 30 days prior to the election? >> i do not know. >> i don't know. >> mr. roth, you don't know? >> no, sir. >> do you know? >> no. it seemed like they were handing them out like candy. i wonder who had them. no one knows, okay? the f.b.i. didn't tell you that it was fake, didn't tell you it was hacked, and mr. roth, did the story violate your policy? >> in my judgment at the time no, it did not. >> why you said it isn't clearly a violation of our hacked
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materials policy or anything else. i think what a lot of people are wondering if it didn't violate your policies and they didn't tell you it was fake or hacked, why did you take it down? >> the company made a decision that found that it did violate the policy. it wasn't my personal judgment at the time that it did but the decision was communicated to me by my direct supervisor and i didn't disagree with it enough to object to it. >> what i think happened, mr. roth. i think you guys got played. i think you guys wanted to take it deep down. we saw what the chairman put out everyone in the white house is a fascist. i think you guys wanted it to be taken down. i think you meet with these guys every week. that has been established in the twitter files, weekly meetings with mr. chan in the run-up to the election and send you emails and documents on the super secret james bond tell porter.
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i think you guys got played by the fib and you wanted to take it down. that's the scary part. we had 50 -- this is the real take away. 51 former intelligence officials five days after you guys take down the hunter biden story and block "the new york times" account 50 former intel officials say it has the classic earmarks of a russian disinformation operation. it was run on you guys and by extension run on the american people. that's the concern. to mr. raskin's point that you guys aren't bound by the first amendment because you are a private company, okay, maybe so. but your terms of service don't have to comply with the first amendment. would that be right? they don't have to. you said that in your testimony. >> my understanding of the first amendment is it protects people and businesses from government, not -- >> your terms of service. what i want to know, here is what i want to know, is this a
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violation of the first amendment when the government, mr. chan again, sending you an email saying we think these accounts need to be looked at because they violate your terms of service? that's a different standard. you got the government saying your terms of service which don't have to comply with the first amendment but the government saying we don't think these accounts comply with your terms of service, please take them down. you see a problem there, mr. roth? >> i'm seeing a flashing red light and i'm happy to answer the question. do i think it's a valuable use of the f.b.i.'s time? no. but i don't see in a request for review a problem under the first amendment, no. >> i sure do. i thank you and give back. >> mr. connolly for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. my, my, my, what happens when you hold a hearing and can't prove your point. we heard from the chairman in his opening statement that it is wrong for government to call
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twitter and say take down a tweet. >> harris: we are watching that fiery capitol hill hearing now as the three twitter executives are in the hot seat. you saw a member of oversight but jim jordan is also the chairman of judiciary and we got to see a little bit of his legal -- he gave this executive advice. you guys got played. first of all, douglas, i will come to you. tell me the significance of where chairman jordan was going there. >> he is trying to show that -- on that particular point that i think it is a rather generous point. that twitter didn't want to be played. but that the f.b.i. played them. it is a somewhat generous interpretation of the situation. we've known since december former f.b.i. agent james baker was working inside twitter, was working not just inside twitter
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but working after the company was acquired elon musk he was filtering information that musk asked to be released. he is working inside. i would say that as i say, with all due respect, the idea that twitter was played suggests that they didn't necessarily want to be played. i would say all the evidence shows they wanted to be played and they were playing themselves. >> harris: i thought the question, sean, if it wasn't against your twitter policy, why did you take down and what we know it to be is the "new york post" reporting. why would you kill the story and censor things if it wasn't against your policy? what we learned there is the federal government was telling them to take it down. this executive didn't have a problem with that. >> they were telling him the same thing. to your point, it wasn't hacked
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and it wasn't against the policy. the question is why did you take it down if you had no reason of a violation to remove it? i think this goes, two points jordan is trying to make. one you are making a political contribution to joe biden by suppressing the story and you can't make a millions of dollar contribution and removing this story from one of the main platforms of the public square in america? that's one issue. the second issue he brought up last was he is showing the connection between the federal government, f.b.i. and twitter. and it begs the question how did the congress respond after we learned from this hearing all the involvement of the f.b.i.? what next steps have to happen to make sure this doesn't happen again? one other point. i find it fascinating that democrats aren't joining in the effort to say you know what? this is contrary to the american principle. it might happen to republicans today but might happen to us tomorrow. we should preserve everybody's
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rights. >> harris: we have a democrat connolly of virginia who wants to talk about the suppression of former president trump tweets. let's watch. >> certainly none i'm aware of no. >> i don't recall anything like that. >> i'm sorry, president biden did what, sir? >> has joe biden ever called twitter to your knowledge or his white house on his behalf to take down content or urge you to take down content? >> i don't know the answer to that question, sir. >> well, i will have to conclude from three of the four now there is no evidence you've ever done that but plenty of evidence donald trump tried to do that. and if we will have a hearing about the misuse of social media and the intrusion of government in the content on social media, we've got an environment-rich
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target but it is not joe biden. it is donald trump. of course, we don't want to talk about that. we don't want to talk about russian bots and russian fabrications using fake accounts on twitter to a political purpose, not to help elect democrats. and we don't want to talk about four years of donald trump manipulating the truth and trying to manipulate social media and threaten it. or directly to try to shape it by taking down content because it was critical of him personally. and that's what we ought to be talking about as we move forward, not the subject of today's hearing. i yield back. >> chair recognizes mr. donalds for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman. quick, mr. roth, you've stated already -- >> harris: we'll continue to monitor this. i wanted you to hear where the democrats are going. they are going to lean all the way in on former president
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trump. it is reflexively where they go. they want to know who called twitter and all of that. do they not see the complicit nature that republicans are trying to show the public? americans can see it from the wider media, the suppression of facts before a presidential election around a candidate, then joe biden in 2020, and the movement of the feds to try to tell twitter what its policy is or should be to take down material to censor. it is not a free and open press and we know that. some media members were willing to be part of all of us losing some of our freedoms in the press. most of it, in fact. fascinating. i wanted you to see the democrats go after trump at a hearing that is literally all about getting to the bottom of what was going on with a
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president who may have been exposed through business dealings either through his son, hunter, or complicit on his own right, joe biden. what was going on in those millions and millions and millions of dollars paid from ukraine for an energy company that hunter worked for without the resume to even sit on that board? china, deals there. and now classified information shows up at the penn biden center and we know china's government, the ccp sending money into that collegiate system. there are so many questions and republicans are going to fight. they promised and they are doing it. you see representative there from florida. we'll dip in and out of this as we can. i want to thank my guests sean duffy and douglas murray. we'll go back to them as it warrants. let's move forward.
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>> president biden: instead of making the wealthy pay their fair share some republicans want medicare and social security to sunset. asme owe not saying it's the majority. [shouting] >> president biden: let me give you anybody who doubts it contact my office. i'll give you a copy. i will give you a copy of the proposal. i'm glad you see -- >> harris: it got a little raucous. the state of the union address looked like a u.k. house of commons. the president taunting republicans over entitlements and then a realtime fact check led to this moment. >> president biden: so, folks, as we all apparently agree, social security and medicare is off the books now, right? [applause] all right.
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all right. >> harris: oh my goodness. all that for nothing for him to capitulate and saying no, what i said wasn't true, it is off the books. it's safe. wow. could he say he is sorry for not telling the truth? no. the president made some other questionable claims about the debt limit, jobs and taxes and the "new york post" is not being gentle. the cover blaring joe liden saying it lost count of all the fibs he told during that address. fox business correspondent edward lawrence is live from the white house, one of my favorite fact checkers. >> very interesting speech when it comes to the facts that were put out there. stubborn president we saw last night much like the construction equipment at the white house. house speaker kevin mccarthy warned the president not to go after republicans. the president did that when he said republicans wanted to cancel or cut medicare and social security.
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that was met with jeers and what not. listen to what the president said. more of it. listen. >> president biden: i'm glad to see. i tell you, i enjoy conversion. if congress doesn't keep the programs the way they are they would go away. i'm not saying the majority of you, even a significant -- it is being proposed by individuals. >> even the "washington post" gave the president four pin oak yas when he made the same claims. the president deliberately goaded republicans into a response. >> we need to be smart. don't take the bait. stay with the american public what we want to do. curb the runaway spending the president has been spending. the democrats increased discretionary spending by 30%. >> the president said he has created 800,000 manufacturing
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jobs and 12 million jobs overall. the economy added back all the manufacturing jobs lost in the pandemic and created 214 overall the economy there added back all the jobs lost during the pandemic and created 2.7 million. the president on his way to wisconsin now actually talking about jobs going forward. you will likely hear the same false claims at his speech later on today. >> harris: it is amazing. the numbers aren't even close. >> 10 million off there. it looks and sounds good. little word games going on here. when i talked with the labor secretary he always used it correctly and spoke creekly. it's the president and white house fudging the numbers a little bit. >> harris: maybe the president doesn't get the correct notes then. edward, thank you. president biden sounding like he was back on the campaign trail at moments last night saying at
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least 12 times this making his case for the next four years. >> president biden: let's finish the job this time. thanks to the law i signed last year saving millions, saving $8 hundred a year on their premiums. let's finish the job. we have to finish the job. let's finish the job and close the loopholes. let's finish the job. let's finish the job and get more families access the affordable quality housing. let's finish the job by providing access to pre-school for 3 and 4-year-old. let's finish the job to connect students to career opportunities starting in high school. let's come together to finish the job on police reform. let's finish the job and ban the assault weapons. we've been sent here to finish the job. >> harris: i didn't realize we were going to show you almost all the 12 times he said it. oh wow, did they poll test that? they used it a lot.
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democratic pollster called the speech a campaign manifesto. the big gamble of speech and re-election campaign is how the president can raise his poor job ratings with new taxes and big promises while ignoring the kitchen table issues of inflation, immigration and crime on the minds of most americans who see the nation as headed in the wrong direction. bret baier special report anchor is in "focus" now. so bret, 12 times and we had most of them. let's finish the job. >> definitely good morning harris. definitely sounds like a campaign slogan for 2024. i think it probably is going to be that launch. part of that speech was about that. and part of it was about laying down markers. immigration to your point, border security only got four sentences in the speech. china didn't even really get that much in the speech after the week we saw of the chinese balloon going across the
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country, resort fees and how much money people were going to save on hotel overcharges got more than immigration and china combined. so i think there was some criticism of the speech. democrats came away saying it is a president who fights. republicans came away saying he overstates some things and accused us of trying to kill medicare and social security and it didn't work out for him. >> harris: he missed an opportunity. if you were struggling to put food on the table now because prices are so high and blessed enough to have a job that has given you a raise you are spending it on what you used to spend less on, food and heating right now. resort fees, probably not first on your list because you try to put food on your table, not the resort's. >> exactly. i think it was -- there were some chuckles in the crowd. i don't think it was meant to be a laugh line. the president did say a number
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of things that -- he was trying to reach across the aisle but there were also things that he hammered republicans on. that social security and medicare to go back to that. the fact that he had at the end and walked it back a little bit and said okay, so we're all on the same page and everybody stood up and had an ovation. he is ready to go to florida and that speech writer writing a speech using a line that republicans are coming after social security and medicare has to go back to the drawing board after the visual of everybody standing up and saying we aren't going to touch it. >> harris: i will see you on your set in d.c. tonight. i'm coming down for an event at the smithsonian. see you in a few hours. i will cut in now because aoc is at the twitter exec hearing with oversight. let's dip into that. i'll see you later. >> bomb threat to the boston children's hospital. >> yes, i am aware. >> this account is still on that
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platform today, isn't it? >> regrettably yes, it is. >> despite inspiring a bomb threat due to the right wing incitement of violence against trans americans in this country because they cannot let go of this obsession with fixating violence and inciting violence against trans and lgtb people in addition to immigrants and women of color. the party cannot pick on anyone their own size and they are trying to call off an entire social media platform and use the power of this committee and congress in order to pursue a political agenda. i yield back. >> chair recognizes mr. frye for five minutes. >> thank you. this hearing shows who really has been in control of what said to be one of the world's most widely used websites, twitter. the american people probably didn't know who the witnesses
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were today but they were powerful enough to silence an american president with a few clicks from their california office and learning that some of those in washington, d.c. have forgotten their role and exercised their power to achieve ends, the f.b.i. is the lead federal agency responsible for investigating foreign influence operations, however in recent years they have devoted countless amounts of time, taxpayer money and manpower to combating russian foreign influence on social media. the f.b.i. as one reporter noted acted as a doorman to social media surveillance and censorship with agencies across the federal government from the state department, pentagon to c.i.a. thousands of reports from the f.b.i. and the foreign affairs -- >> harris: you saw the tail end of alexandria ocasio-cortez of new york also talking about what republicans are doing and going
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after republicans decidedly from the left today this will be more political. that is fair to say because you have these three twitter executives and much of the question has come after the statement from each of these representatives from all over the country on this committee on the republican side they want the facts of what was happening. a lot of emotion from both. we wanted to show you a little bit of democrats in this because they are capitulateing and leaning hard on the political side and emotions in all of this. that won't help us get to the fact of the feds being complicit with social media to suppress a story that had something to do with a presidential candidate in 2020 whose name was joe biden. we will continue to monitor for now and we'll move forward. >> president biden: my personal conversations, many, with president xi and we seek competition not conflict. today we are in the strongest
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position in decades to compete with china or anyone else in the world. if china threatens our sovereignty we'll act to protect our country and we did. >> harris: the president mentioned china. you heard bret baier tell us that moments ago. he just didn't do much. and now he is facing fierce fallout for not paying more attention to china in last night's state of the union address. he made that one oblique reference to the spy flight the military shot down saturday off the coast of south carolina. senator josh hawley of missouri. >> i thought it was totally inadequate. no specific talk or knowledgement of the balloon, no plan to counter it. and no acknowledgement that he has been incredibly weak on china. he is in total denial. they haven't leveled with the american people or senators for that matter. >> harris: an op-ed argues biden is bowing to china one week
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after it invaded our borders. it comes one day after republicans held hearings, two of them, on how the best -- how to best counter beijing. >> china is the most challenging national security tlet america has faced in 30 years. >> china remains a global threat. we saw the im ens of that adregs last week. >> the challenge for us is what do we do in a timely way that matches the capability and capacity that china is building right now? >> harris: brian mast, member of the house foreign affairs, great to have you in "focus." i want to start with where we are right now on the topic of china and work back. the hearing today and ones yesterday have an interconnection. why don't we know more about the spy flights? >> let's start with where we are at in the spy flight as well.
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it press an opportunity to present a larger national security challenge, this. joe biden is the biggest national security challenge we have because he is not a credible threat. if we know there is a balloon coming our way and he makes a threat about that balloon but it continues to go across the nation and china doesn't care, then they do not consider him a threat. the taliban and al qaeda did not consider him a threat when we were withdrawing from afghanistan. vladimir putin does not consider him a threat. that's the big national security challenge that is posed by him being president. why don't we know more about this balloon? it is something that the administration didn't want anybody to know about. they knew it was taking place. these existed around the globe. when you look at secretary of state antony blinken he only canceled his trip to china not what they knew was taking place, they only canceled it because the american people found out
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and don't want the american people to be in the know. >> harris: china, taliban, putin, don't consider him a threat. what about iran? how much damage gets done when you let another nation invade your airspace? >> hefty amount of damage. it continues into those dominoes. afghanistan was the first domino of all of those. but each and every action where he allows america to be stepped on sends a message to foreign intelligence agencies whether it's iran, north korea, venezuela or any of our allies. they are looking at that and saying what does this president do? how does he react or not react? and they read into it. >> harris: i do want to get to -- we don't have to spend much time on it but i don't want to miss the interconnection. connective tissue between the hearings on china on the hill yesterday and what we see with the twitter execs. at the heart of both of those two days of hearings is china.
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>> yes. you look at china and we all understand that it is a threat. you now have speaker kevin mccarthy put together a select china committee to take it seriously for the first time in years compiling members from all committees to look at all of the things china is invading airspace with a balloon. buying up space in the bahamas and either side of the panama canal. farm area in the united states of america. collecting intellectual propertyment looking at us through tiktok or other means of social media. for the first time we have a committee that is truly taking that seriously. my hat is off to kevin mccarthy on that. >> harris: that's the point. we don't know that twitter particularly relevant to today's hearing was the only group listening to the federal government to suppress information that might touch a presidential candidate in 2020,
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joe biden. facebook should be looked at. tiktok has to be looked at. the china connection. what are they manipulating in that sense? wow. so much to get to. your last quick thought. >> manipulating anything that they can. we should be under no illusion that china wants to be stronger than the united states of america and they will do anything they can to get there. >> harris: congressman mast, always great to have you in "focus." i saw the salute. we salute you too and grateful for your military service. a quick gaffe off the top of the state of the union. sparking more criticism with an expected 2024 run. republicans hitting the president for not digging into illegal immigration at our southern border. but leader kevin mccarthy is pledging to hold the administration accountable on that as well. >> i think he knows the border
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>> president biden: we now have a record number of personnel working to secure the border arresting 8,000 human smugglers, seizing over 23,000 pounds of fentanyl in just the last several months. it's our duty to protect all the people's rights and freedoms. congress must restore the right and the -- [border] >> president biden: fentanyl is killing more than 70,000 americans a year. you've got it.
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>> harris: wait, first he says they are solving problem and then he lowers his tone and says people are dying by the thousands? did he read the speech beforehand. those two things don't go together. president biden glossing over the desperate border crisis giving it just a few seconds last night during his state of the union. record numbers of illegal immigrants and fentanyl are still flowing into our nation. customs and border protection saying agents have seized nearly 10,000 pounds of fentanyl just between october and december of last year. one border agent acknowledges agents have now seized enough fentanyl to kill every single american times five. 330 million times five. desperation is setting in. >> what i can tell you is fiscal year 18, 19 and 20 tucson sector had 60,000 apprehensions, 21, we
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tripled it. last year it quadruple. it was 250,000. we're 20,000 ahead now. we went from what i would describe as unprecedented to a point where i don't have the correct words to describe what's going on. >> harris: we watched that live yesterday. flores, former republican congresswoman from texas and mark bag itch from alaska. i want to get your reaction, congresswoman, when you hear the president say we are making all the success. so many people are still dying. >> it's heartbreaking to see. he is clearly not doing well honestly. it is sad to see he doesn't have a caring family and friends to advise him not to run for re-election, 37% of his fellow democrats don't want him to run for re-election.
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he is clearly not doing well and doesn't really understand what is happening in our country. people are dying, people are struggling to pay their bills. eggs are $ten. he is talking about hotels and people on vacation. we can't afford to go on vacation. he can barely afford paying our mortgage, our rent, our electric bill. groceries are extremely expensive. we are struggling in this country and he just doesn't seem to understand and resonate what he is doing to the middle class. he is destroying the middle class, the hard working people that are the backbone of this country. he has destroyed the economy of our country. he has destroyed our border, and it is just so heartbreaking to see. he is our president. i want him -- at the end of the day we're all in the same boat. >> harris: 100%. senator, i want to hear from you
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in reaction. >> my reaction, i'm not sure what she saw last night but here are the facts. you want to talk about i said this before on your show. if you want to talk about hurting the middle class, the federal reserve is doing the worst job they could do. they raised interest rates which impact every american on this country an auto loans and car loans to assure they can get a college education for their kids. let me finish. you let the congressman go on all the economic issues. the speech last night was clear. we are moving in the right direction. on your question specifically which she did not answer i will. that is he acknowledged there are challenges with the border. it would be nice if congress would work together when i was in the senate we had a bipartisan immigration bill. instead of poll it sidesing on both sides, i will tell you that. they need to sit down and get this issue resolve. it is good for our economy to resolve the issue and good for
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the country in the long term immigration policy. 40% of the people that come into this country under all administrations are people who come under legal visitation or tourist visas but do not get followed up on. so we have work to do. but is it perfect? no. before this issue came up it was cocaine coming through the border. let's get serious and deal with this issue instead of always batting it back and forth because it sounds good politically. >> harris: look, you know how long it would take congress to do something about this? the desperate need right now is to stem the flow so that we can catch up. >> that's the challenge. >> harris: maybe that's hilarious to you. having been to the border recently it is heartbreaking to see our men and women pulling bodies out of the rio grande. people who desperately want to make it to this country, senator. they are coming and they think and promised by the cartels it will be different. i don't find any of that funny. i find it heartbreaking.
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i don't want to wait for congress to figure out how they can all get along. let's do both. let's have them figure that out but in the meantime stem the tide and see the best country on the planet and not have a humanitarian crisis every hour of every single day because no one can get along on capitol hill. >> you can laugh all day but i'm a border patrol wife. i live it every single day. it is very honestly upsetting you are laughing about this because we are seeing women and children get abused and get raped at the border. i'm an immigrant. i see it every single day. these criminal organizations have destroyed and destroying our southern border. we need to focus on legal immigration. stop playing politics with these people. stop playing politics with the american's safety. if you cared you would focus on new immigration and not illegal
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immigration. >> i would say this. i agree with the congresswoman. i'm not laughing at you. what i am saying is this is an issue that has been around for the last 2 or 3 or 4 decades. i agree with her. her long term plan is right on. reality is if we deal with this, we have to figure out a solution just as the last two years in congress has done over 300 bills passed in a bipartisan effort. major legislation. do you think we could find a solution to this? i believe we can. if people put their heads down and start working on this we could get a solution. i don't doubt it at all because it is about border security and insuring we have more patrols. >> harris: let's move to this real quickly. the white house reportedly working overtime to keep the president's speech free from the usual gaffes but this came right out of the gate. >> president biden: congratulations to chuck schumer, another -- another term as senate minority leader.
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i think you -- this time you have a slightly bigger majority, mr. leader. you are the majority leader. about that much bigger? chief justice gets to go to the game tomorrow -- next week. i have to stay home. >> harris: i felt so bad for the vice president who could only silently look cringed. she literally leaned back, congresswoman. >> again, he is clearly not doing well. doesn't really understand what is happening in our country. that's why i mentioned earlier he needs to back off and not run for re-election and dedicate himself to his family and get the care that he needs. he clearly doesn't know what is happening in our country. >> harris: she wants a wellness check on the president of the united states. does he need it? >> i have five brothers and sisters, 13 nephews and nieces
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and sometimes i forget their name and who they are married to and where they are working. i give him a check on that one. it was an incredible speech. 70% of the american people thought that way. growing and good economy and a good thing for this country. >> harris: don't eat breakfast food. it is up by 40%. good to see you both. thank you for being in "focus." "outnumbered" after the break. ... the day you get your clearchoice dental implants makes every day... a "let's dig in" day... mm. ...a "chow down" day...
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