♪ >> bill: that's a party, okay. here we go. good morning, everybody. better late than never. nearly two weeks after a breached american airspace intel officials finally briefing congress on the chinese spy flight. it is happening now. we're in new york city and good morning i'm bill hemmer. >> dana: i'm dana perino and this is "america's newsroom." i got a good sleep, did you? >> bill: really good. >> dana: nothing like your own bed. lawmakers finally getting answers on the flight that has inflamed washington and beijing. defense officials are briefing the house as we speak.

the senate will get its own briefing later this morning. >> bill: the u.s. revealing the spy flight was part of a larger espionage program going on for years. china maintains it with as a weather balloon that drifted off course and traveled over sensitive military sites in the u.s. the pentagon says no chance. >> i can assure you this was not for civilian purposes. we're 100% clear about that. we are very confident we'll be able to detect these kinds of capabilities as evidenced by the continuing body of knowledge that we've been able to build up on this. obviously that's something our intelligence community will continue to work closely on for this and any other potential threats. >> dana: bryan llenas is in myrtle beach, south carolina where crews are still searching for debris. we begin the aishah hosni on capitol hill and more on today's briefings as we get thursday going. hi, aishah.

>> this all-house briefing got underway an hour ago and already seen some of these members exit the briefing. they are not talking to our cameras. not telling us exactly what they heard inside but they are being briefed by intelligence, defense and state department officials ten days after this thing actually entered u.s. mainland. it comes as the pentagon reveals the balloon is part of china's massive espionage program run by the people's liberation army based in a province designed to gather intelligence on military capabilities. >> it is bound of the president gave the order to shoot it down. what was the sequence of event and when was the order given? >> we want to get as much information as we can get and prevent them from gaining that information and our intelligence community takes it very

seriously. >> congress has a lot of questions. chinese surveillance program has sent out aircrafts of very diff different sizes and capabilities. there is a question whether this could explain some of those unidentified flying objects that congress has already held a hearing on. >> the question always was in my mind do our adversaries have something that's unexplainable or we haven't dug into enough or is it truly some type of other worldly life? either way, we have to dig into it, right? we need answers. >> we have to dig into it. there will be an all-senator briefing as well that gets under way in 2 1/2 hours. democrat senator from montana john tester is holding a hearing this morning looking into the decision making of the military with this thing. guys. >> dana: aishah hosni, thank you. >> thank you. the u.s. navy still searching

for any critical intel from the spy flight before it sinks to the depths of the ocean floor. bryan llenas has been in myrtle beach for three days. what do we have now? >> bill, good morning. look, the f.b.i. and naval criminal investigators are on board the u.s.s. carter hall, assault ship where they're cataloging the debris. according to antony blinken it appears the u.s. government is learning a lot from this debris. >> we are getting more information almost by the hour as we continue to work to salvage the balloon. we're learning from that. as well, we're learning from what we saw and picked up as the balloon traversed the united states. as to who is responsible for

that? china is. >> the pentagon says china's surveillance balloons have been spotted on at least five continents and vary in size and capabilities. the pentagon said it has been aware of the program for several years and four previous balloon that hovered over sites in the u.s. three during the trump administration and one at the beginning of biden's presidency. the pentagon says it has gotten better at tracking them and how it spotted the latest balloon. the u.s. expects china to adapt. >> we learned a lot about this balloon program and the last thing i would say on that is that i would not be surprised if the prc starts to re-evaluate its collection program. >> back here on the water outside of myrtle beach, south carolina it is glass, calm and

still. really beautiful out here. this is the kind of conditions that they have been working with over the last few days which has allowed naval divers and explosive ordnance teams to go and retrieve that debris. bad news is weather is supposed to get bad this week. 25 to 35 mile-per-hour winds that could damper the salvage operation. >> bill: bryan, thank you so much on the boat. for more on all this former secretary of defense mark esper will join us live. >> hindsight twitter should have reinstated the post's account immediately. >> the first to admit we didn't always get it right. >> we all know now this was not russian disinformation. it wasn't disinformation. >> dana: former twitter executives testified under oath before the house oversight

committee yesterday admitting the social media company made a mistake in its handling of the "new york post"'s hunter biden story. the newspaper taking home a victory lap this morning. the front page says to grill a mocki mockingbird. we're live in washington with more. what did we learn, lucas? >> we learned that former twitter executives admitted they made a mistake censoring the hunter biden laptop story weeks before the 2020 presidential election but they denied the f.b.i. told them to do it. >> people could and did talk about the contents of the laptop on twitter or anywhere else. over the course of that day it became clear that twitter had not fully appreciated the impact of that policy on free press and others. >> aoc said she would rather talk about abortion and other issues not the hometown paper. >> a whole hearing about a 24-hour hiccup in a right wing political operation and why we're here right now.

it is just an abuse of public resources and abuse of public time. we could be talking about healthcare and bringing down the cost of prescription drugs and abortion rights, civil rights, voting rights. instead we talk about hunter biden's half baked laugh top story. it is an embarrassment. >> testifying james baker the former twitter deputy general counsel and top lawyer at the f.b.i. when they launched the investigation into donald trump. >> i did not act unlawfully or inappropriately in any manner with respect to hunter biden's laptop. >> republicans say the relationship between twitter and the f.b.i. was a bit too close. both agencies met quarterly. today on capitol hill there will be a hearing on what the g.o.p. calls the weaponization of the f.b.i. we'll have more in the next hour. >> dana: you saw aoc talking about a half baked laptop.

last week the lawyers confirmed that the content at least they said is real. then the "new york post" said this about her saying aoc serves up disinformation on hunter biden and us. gas lighting. social media figures shrugging off questions with vague answers and democrats yelling how it wasn't a scandal. guess what? americans are livid. the white house beg to differ and they don't think anyone case. >> bill: they said this is important reading from the post piece. hunter and joe biden never denied the story. candidate biden was asked about it during a debate and called it russian disinformation. i don't think the specific question every came is it real or not? >> dana: we found out twitter never contacted hunter or his lawyers to see if it was true. >> judy wood worth sat down with the president yesterday. pbs. here is the exchange we pulled

today. >> one of the things republicans say is a priority for them is investigating your family, your son hunter. how do you plan to deal with that? >> not going to pay attention to that. they can make up things about my family and it won't go very far. >> bill: that was interesting. a couple other things that came from the interview. he called these classified documents stray papers and suggested some are from 1974. he was 29 when he went into the senate, right? is that 1974? i can't remember. do the math. and then he said there may be something else, i don't know. but we've been talking a lot about if these classified documents are inoctoberous, tell us. if it's old information and doesn't matter anymore, tell us. that was the first indication we were given that it is 4 or 5 decades old and we'll see whether or not. >> dana: if the president does such few interviews and you just ask him how are you going to

handle it rather than did you do it, it seems kind of strange and see if he does anymore interviews. >> bill: tracking illegal migrants at the border is about to get more difficult. the biden administration is ending the use of one of its most critical and important border patrol surveillance, blimps at the border with mexico. bill melugin is on that story in mission, texas. what's up with this? >> good morning. these surveillance blimps are known at aero stats. there were 12 deployed along the southern border, now only four left due to a lack of funding. look at this video we shot of these stats considered a massive asset for border patrol. an eye in the sky. highly sophisticated cameras and technology. night vision, see for miles in all directions. they're highly effective at tracking evaders, smugglers and relaying realtime information to

agents on the ground. maintained by the department of defense but very expensive. a source telling me the 12 balloons cost $45 million for one year. the pentagon had recently helped share the cost but told that funding has tried up and eight of the 12 are now grounded. cbp confirm the reduction in a statement telling fox in part the u.s. border patrol began reducing the number of them that it deploys on january 1, 2023. although border patrol's number will be reduced the border patrol will continue to use them throughout fiscal year 2023. only four of those balloons will remain. the border patrol union sounding off telling us in part these have been one of the most successful tools on the border allowing us to see what's crossing into the u.s. and guide us to the location and apprehend people and contraband including fentanyl. the loss of these tools is a blow to border security making the american people less safe.

this move defies logic. former u.s. border patrol chief rodney scott sounding off saying it is another gut punch for agents. take a listen. >> this administration doesn't really truly care about securing the border. they care are optics. by dropping these they'll lose more visual into what's going on. the money is there. they redirected it to soft sided facilities, processing and humanitarian. carrying, feeding and transporting illegal aliens. >> multiple cbs and border patrol sources say losing these will artificially reduce the number of gotaways. you can't count them if you can't see them. back to you. >> bill: do you know how much these cost per balloon? do we have a number on that? >> it sounds like they are about $5 million per balloon. senior cbp source says for all

12 balloons for one year is $45 million not including some of the manpower it takes to operate them. you look at maybe $5 million per balloon that ballpark. >> bill: pennies the way washington spends. thanks, bill melugin. >> having spent a year and a half working for him and traveling with him i have never met a bigger extrovert. when he is out on the trail is when people see the magic of who he is. >> dana: president biden is back on the road heading to florida to talk social security and medicare still pushing the claim that republicans want to get rid of it. >> bill: a race against the clock in turkey and northern syria. crews searching for survivors now at risk of freezing to death. but the window for survival closing by the hour. new satellite images giving stunning perspective on the scale of the devastation and we'll share some of that with you coming up in a moment. >> dana: the i.r.s. reaching its hand into the tip jar.

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>> dana: president biden traveling to florida today. an event in tampa focused on social security and medicare. inside the beltway republicans are still having to push back against these false claims that the president made about those government programs and the gop. mark meredith is at the white house with the latest. my sense is no matter what the republicans say, the democrats are going to keep pushing this starting with the white house. >> i agree with you. i believe they found something that would create a wedge issue

with voters. the president doubling down if not tripling down on those claims you were just talking about that he says republicans want to cut medicare and social security. what he may say when he gives the speech later this afternoon in tampa, florida. tuesday night during the state of the union address that republicans broke out in sheer anger even booing the president after he accused them of trying to cut both programs. top republicans insist there is no such plan in the works. the president repeated the claims while in wisconsin on wednesday. >> president biden: look, a lot of republicans their dream is to cut social security and medicare. well, let me just say this, it is your dream but my veto pen will make it a nightmare. >> bill: the white house sent out a list of republican proposals that shows their interest in rein in the programs and the president backed similar efforts while serving in the senate. >> president biden: when i argued we should freeze federal

spending i meant social security as well and medicare and medicaid. i meant every single solitary thing in the government. and i not only tried it once, i tried it twice, i tried it a third time and i tried it a fourth time. >> the president is engaged in a war of words with florida senator rick scott who supports effort to let federal legislation expire every five years. he mentions the senator during his wisconsin stop. scott is calling on president biden to resign. the ad a sign of the growing bitterness between the white house as well as republicans in some of these swing states. while the president will be in florida he will probably bring up senator rick scott. i will be curious if he mentions florida governor ron desantis who many people believe he may face off against in 2024. >> dana: something to watch. thanks. mark talked about florida republican senator rick scott and we'll have much more about this fight over social security and medicare.

he will join us in the next hour. >> bill: there is this. check it out. >> president biden: typical middle class family for decades the backbone of america, the middle class has been hallowed out. those times were hallowed out something else was lost, pride, self-esteem, a sense of self-worth. but now we'll turn that around. we're building an economy where no one will be left behind. >> bill: this was the message in wisconsin yesterday repeating debunked claims that republicans want to cut social security and medicare. maria bartiromo is here. hello to you and good morning. gallup poll, right? the highest number since 2009. 50% of americans say they are worse off than they were a year ago. that's going back 14 years. >> the reason they're worse off

is because the price they are paying for goods is exceeding the money that they are making. that has everything to do with the biden administration and democrats and all of this spending in the last two years. let's face it, inflation is still at incredibly high levels cutting into wages. inflation is rising higher than wages and that's why american families are hallowed out because a dozen eggs is costing you 60% higher than a year ago, etc. , etc. that's the problem that did not come up the other night in the state of the union. >> dana: i really just brushed over it a little bit. we know in every poll that you see, every single one, ones you like and don't like say inflation is the number one issue. when you ask people do you think the president cares about issues that you care about that are important to you? the answer is no. so they don't talk about it here. i think it has left people a little cold. >> i think so, too. we are all living it.

we're living 40-year high inflation and higher interest rates and the fact we had to walk away from a house we wanted to buy because mortgage rates shot up because the federal reserve is raising rates. i want to be clear the worry and predictions of mass upset for the economy seem to be getting rolled back. a lot of people say maybe we can do the soft landing and won't have a severe recession. we're talking about a weak economy and one weakening. we haven't seen the impact of the string of interest rates all together. inflation is still elevated. i have a tough time having a victory lap now. >> bill: if you are making less than $4 hundred thousand a year you won't see a tax increase unless you are a waiter or bartender. let's take you back to april of 2021 when the claim was made. >> president biden: let's start with what i will not do. i will not impose any tax increase on people making less than $4 hundred thousand.

but it is time for corporate america and the wealthiest 1% of americans to begin to pay their fair share. just their fair share. >> bill: the thing that's getting a lot of attention if you are a waiter or waitress they'll crack down on your tips. the i.r.s. is saying it is a proposal for comment, not a rule. >> they are waiting to hear from people to comment on it before they make this an official rule. clearly this is one of the things they are looking at. let me look under every rock to see if i can find more tax revenue and waiters and waitresses living paycheck to paycheck and living on tips and try to tax them. it will be a big failure. it will lead to everybody lying. i just spoke with joe, the father of lady gaga who has a restaurant in new york. my waiters and waitresses won't tell me the truth. they will say i made $20 in tips. on the social security thing, i just want to point out how about

honesty? i look at the committee for responsible budget fact sheet now. the social security trust fund will be insolvent by 2035, 12 years from now. we heard a lot of bluster about what the republicans want which wasn't true at all from the president. where was the plan to make social security solvent? that's what we need, plans and goals to get us out of this pickle we're in. pickles are also higher in price. >> dana: of course they are. >> bill: lady gaga's dad is a new yorker. what did he say about the state of new york? >> he said it is a mess. illegal migrants are asking for jobs and he said we can't give them jobs, there are migrants everywhere. climb is on the rise and homelessness is everywhere. he said new york is a complete mess. i'm sorry, i'm telling you what i just heard. >> bill: it will cost the city a lot of money along the way. maria, thanks. >> dana: apparent act of

deception in the chinese spy craft that flew over the u.s. is not just a one-time event. is the biden administration doing enough about chinese surveillance?

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the death toll is mounting. it is looking like one of the most serious disasters we've seen in many years. there is help on the way and on the ground including from the u.s. we're in fact standing in the usaid base camp set up in the last couple of hours in the town here in turkey. we were shown around by john morrison with the fairfax, virginia fire department. search and rescue teams from that fire department as well as from los angeles have traveled in here at great speed and with great intent and they already have teams out in this hard-hit city trying to rescue people. here is a little bit of what john had to tell me. >> we're here to help the people of turkey. >> you think three days after the earthquake you have a chance of saving some more people? >> absolutely. that's why we're here. >> yeah, this has been chosen as a city that they have come to for a couple of reasons.

one, because it is one of the worst-hit cities around and two, because it is so badly served by government rescue teams. but there is some hope. just in the past 24 hours a 10-year-old child was pulled from the rubble here. in fact, as john explained to me, that they do think they have a chance. they still have a window of opportunity that working alongside turkish rescue teams and other international rescue teams here as well as the u.s. folks who are well skilled at this kind of stuff, they think they can save more people. they think they can bring a little bit of happiness to some families here. families that have been so shattered by this disaster. one more note also confirmed overnight by the state department, three americans were part of that death toll that 19,000 plus death toll. one more sign of the international scope of this whole disaster. back to you. >> dana: we'll all pray for more miracles.

they do happen and especially this late stage after the event. thank you so much. >> bill: numbers are staggering. thank you. on the balloon, the update behind me. viewers to what we think we know. originated off the southern coast of china several weeks ago. we spotted it two weeks ago on the 28th of january off the coast of alaska. the chain of aleutian islands to the northeast and you have canada and then about ten days ago northern idaho and montana you cross over and see where it goes before it was blown out of the sky on saturday off the coast of myrtle beach, south carolina. since that time the pentagon has told us they have gone back and pieced all this stuff together and now they believe that this was not unusual apparently. we will bring in an expert to explain that. these are u.s. sightings of the chinese spy flights. in red is what apparently happened during the trump years. blue is apparently what has happened during the biden years.

you have guam under trump, hawaii, corn nadia, california. under biden unspecified locations early 2021. the country of columbia and south carolina as well. what does it mean? mark esper might have an answer. former defense secretary. i want to pick your brain what you are learning today. state department said that the u.s. now believes 40 countries have been surveilled by chinese balloons across five continents and also the a.p. is saying this is the chinese military which i think a lot of people talked about over the past few days. what's up with this? >> well, bill, i'm not surprised the state department's announcement but i think it would be twice that number if not more. i think the more that we uncover information and learn more in the coming days and weeks we'll find out indeed there were both more incidents of chinese spying in other countries and above our

own. it is disturbing and a gap we need to address immediately. i'm sure congress will get on top of it. they are being briefed today. much more we'll learn in the coming weeks. >> bill: why didn't we know it was going before? balloons have changes, right? they are flying high and slow and they can linger over targets they want to sur veil. yesterday judy wood worth asked president biden about the u.s. and beijing. >> have relations now between the u.s. and china taken a big hit? >> president biden: no. the idea of shooting down a balloon that is gathering information over america and is -- that makes relations worse. i made it clear to xi jinping that we'll compete fully with china but we aren't going to look for conflict.

this man has enormous problems. he has also great potential. >> bill: to look at it diplomatically how do we see this? is he right that nothing changes? >> relations between the united states and china have gotten worse in the wake of this incident. there is less trust today between the u.s. military and the people's liberation and political levels as well between our two countries because of what happened and you have to wonder as well how do the chinese regard us now in the wake of the fact that we allowed the balloon to enter our airspace and traverse the united states and cross over the top of many strategic sites without doing anything until after the fact? these are important issues. the chinese weigh this out. we need to know what happened on their side as well. is there a disconnect between the people's liberation army and xi jinping is beijing or bureaucratic incompetence? >> bill: fair point. i want to know why we didn't see

the things in the past. can you explain that? >> that's a very important question. is it a technical question? is it a reporting question? or decision making questions? we knew two weeks ago it with as coming our way. was there a communication issue or political decision made not to act because maybe we didn't want to upset relations between the two countries or maybe upset tony blinken's upcoming trip. those will be found out in the coming weeks. >> bill: or maybe we just missed it. thank you for your time today. >> dana: looking for answers, the chief operating officer of southwest airlines about to take the hot seat on capitol hill and it will be hot and face questions about the airline's holiday meltdown that forced the cancellation of 16,000 flights and thousands were stranded. surprise. [ laughs ]

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>> dana: enes kanter free dome is dunking on lebron james for dunking to china. he surpassed the record for basketball points. while many celebrated kanter

freedom sent out the tweet. 38,000 points, 0 values, 0 empathy, one vow to china. joining us now is tyrus. fox nation host. that sings a little bit. >> it was a little heavy. i respect freedom for what he stands for but i think when you stand for something like that to shun other people isn't the right way to go in. lebron james what he did was -- i'm a celtics fan. everything he does bothers me to the core but the athlete and citizen are two different people. if he chooses like this country we choose to do business with china. all of us who have an apple phone should be the last one to condemn anyone. >> he has a contract with nike and making shoes.

they are in indonesia and vietnam and a lot of places. >> every one of us fe this country who gets stuff from china, our country trades with china. why single out lebron james. he is wrong. he wants to make his point to say he is a tremendous father and does good things for his community. to go to that extreme. you can have a difference of opinion on politics but when you go after somebody personally, i think it's crossing the line. >> dana: do you think basketball is too easy? hear me out. this might be unpopular. every time you go down the court you score, i mean -- >> it is -- when they took hand checking away from the game. keep your hand on the defender. the game changed. shooter's league. scoring is up and big time defenders and shot blockers and post guys that kind of has gone away and it is easier to score. that's a good observation.

>> dana: thank you. >> bill: the point is they make it look easy. that's what dana is saying. >> they are some of the greatest athletes in the world. they are s6'8. >> losing to kareem jabar. he is a brilliant man and scholar. be fair. >> dana: david faber beat both of us. also i did get a great photograph. i'm on a box in five inch heels and i looked like oh my goodness. >> not everybody gets to go one-on-one with kareem abdul-jabbar and talk about it. >> dana: i was intimidated. i don't think he was intimidated. that is difficult. sometimes you don't have high

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shoot-out. joining us now is milwaukee police chief jeffrey norman. we were all moved by your press conference the other day. a tough day for you, your team and community. how are you doing today and how are your police officers and the family of the police officer killed? >> we are working through our grief. this is a situation where we lost an officer of our family and we are trying to maintain the professionalism expected of us to be out and continue to protect our city. still also understand if we have to have coming of sorts of our grief and the tragedy of seeing one of our own being lost to this particular senseless violence. >> dana: the mayor spoke out about this as well. cavalier johnson. let's listen to him here.

>> make sure you check up on your folks and if they are out here doing dirt. if they are out here doing bad things or messing around with guns that you hold them to account so that we don't see this sort of activity happening on the streets of our city. enough of this. enough of it. there are no excuses for this. this officer should not be dead right now. >> dana: chief, what do you hear from the people that you are duty bound to serve and protect, the constituents of that city? >> first, i ask support and appreciation for the work we're doing. a lot of our public understands the difficulty and challenges that we have. i'm so appreciative of understanding they see us and the work we're going through but understand the grief we're going through. >> dana: i think we have some pictures here if we could look. maybe we don't. you were there obviously for the funeral. we've had several pictures we've

put up of the officer. when you think about your needs to retain your offices in the positions or to recruit new officers, what is your biggest challenge that you are facing right now? >> well, the first thing is the narrative this is not a noble profession or there is not work to do. to be full disclosure over 27 years i was in the police academy when we had another officer loss to senseless violence. and i had to go talk to our academy class of understanding this is a calling, understanding this is where they can be part of the solution but to reassure them that we as the command staff support them. this is a noble profession and that we want to have good people out there doing the work that needs to be done to protect our community. >> dana: i would say, chief jeffrey norman of milwaukee, if they are looking for someone to

help recruit your exemplary career and the way you carry yourself and help communicate to the people who are heartbroken in milwaukee is just incredible. we thank you for coming on the show. we will stay on top of it and hope to see you again soon. >> thank you so much. god bless you. >> dana: thank you. fox news alert now lawmakers set to grill a top southwest airlines executive over holiday flight disruptions. it led to 17,000 flight cancellations stranding passengers and costing the company more than $1 billion. the hearing about to get underway. welcome to another hour of "america's newsroom." i'm dana perino. good morning. >> bill: i'm bill hemmer, good morning at home. southwest chief operating officer will tell a senate panel that the airline messed up and scheduling systems were overwhelmed by a late december store. part of it is true. the pilot's union claim executives have been warned about