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hearings on capitol hill where lawmakers are probing whether or not the fbi and doj have politicized justice to attack american civil liberties. this is falling under that brand-new subcommittee on the weaponization of the federal government, ohio republican jim jordan. welcome back as "america reports" rolls into hour two. i'm sandra smith in new york. >> john: sandra, good to be with you. as we watch our colleague, jonathan turley on the stand. two of the witnesses are senators leading investigations into the biden family business dealings. david spunt has been watching the opening statements. he is live ste justice department now. david, what are you seeing? >> senator ron johnson has paid close attention not only to the department of justice but the fbi. he noted in his testimony, john and sandra, he wrote more than 50 letters to the fbi and doj and said few of them were answered adequately, many were

not even responded to. this is a hearing as you mentioned for a new subcommittee, the weaponization of government. falls under the judiciary committee, it happens so that jim jordan is also the chair of this subcommittee and frankly it's a hearing that republicans have been waiting for for years, for several years. yesterday the house oversight committee took to bat the twitter issue with hunter biden, the president's son, and the fbi, and how some of the stories were suppressed, the original story that appeared in "the new york post," and today is about multiple different topics that republicans believe shows that they have been singled out and attacked by the justice department and fbi. >> john: david spunt with the update, thank you. >> sandra: let's head into the hearing room where jonathan turley is speaking about censorship from the social media companies. >> it's wrong for the government

to be in the business of silencing citizens, it's wrong. we saw it during the mccarthy period, the government was behind the black listing of individuals, we said it was wrong. it was wrong then, it's wrong now. we have to have that debate and it has to move somewhere beyond our normal partisan divisions. stevenson said when there is a loss of faith in government we loss everything. i hope senator stevenson's residents resonate with this committee. we have everything at stake when you have the government involved in censorship. i thank you again for allowing me to appear and look forward to working with members on both sides to look at this issue. thank you. >> professor, thank you, thank you for stating the gravity of the situation and the question before us. mr. williams, you are recognize for five minutes. >> thank you, thank you very much for inviting me to testify

today. my name is elliott williams, and over the course of 15 years i had the honor of serving in all three branches of our government. across that time i worked as both a career prosecutor and a senior appointee, as both a rank and file employee and senior management and both republican and democratic administration's. for a major portion in my time in government i served in roles tied to the relationship between the executive and legislative branches of government. counsel to the senate judiciary committee across the building, or across the courtyard, and helped run legislative affairs at both the united states department of justice and the united states customs and immigration enforcement or ice. and i know that i'm here today in my personal capacity and not on behalf of any employer. now, having sat in the seats of the staff beside you alongside some of the people here today as well as en the role of the executive -- >> sandra: listening live on capitol hill there, the house

judiciary select subcommittee on the weaponization of government. listening to the second panel now, elliott williams, principal of the raven group, you heard from professor jonathan turley from george washington law professor, next up nicole parker, former fbi agent, so ongoing on the hill right now, john, and a major focus on the social media companies as you just heard jonathan turley laying in on what they were doing as wrong, and at weaponization, obviously, of government being the key focus of this hearing on capitol hill. >> john: likened it to the days of senator joe mccarthy way back when, looking for anti-government speech. the idea that the government would be involved in censoring what people say on twitter, to him is just -- now the fbi has denied this, but senator chuck grassley of iowa has got plenty of evidence from whistleblowers who have come forward, he says

at least, that the fbi and the doj was acting politically. what he said a little while ago. >> what i'm about to tell you sounds like it's out of some fiction spy thriller but it actually happened and it happened in our own government. in the past few years i've never seen so much effort from the fbi, the partisan media, and some of my democratic colleagues to interfere with and undermine very legitimate congressional inquiries. it's because of a triad of disinformation and outright falsehoods. now the most recent example of this triad at work, efforts against my and senator johnson's ongoing biden family investigation. as our investigation continued and advanced, democratic leadership and partisan media

began their attack on our investigation. this is where that spy thriller starts to heat up. other whistleblower disclosures to my office made clear the fbi has within its possession very significant impactful and volumes of evidence of critical con duct by hunter and james biden. and allege that joe biden was aware of hunter biden's business arrangements and may have been involved in some of them. we still aren't sure what's been done with this information. the fbi's track record doesn't create much faith that the information is going to be followed up on. it's clear to me that the justice department and the fbi are suffering from a political infection that if it's not

defeated will cause the american people no longer to trust these storied institutions. it will also threaten the american way of life. >> john: strong words from senator chuck grassley of iowa. the hearing will continue and we'll keep watching it, and get back into it for anything newsworthy. >> sandra: and former communications adviser and spoke person for chuck grassley will be coming up on a political panel. meanwhile, at this hour, president biden on the road in florida taking aim at republicans. >> john: the president has yet to pull a trigger on a re-election run, democrats cast doubt on his ability for a win. >> democrats i'm sure as you know are saying we wonder about his age. does it give you any concern? >> watch me. that's all i can say. i mean -- you know, it goes from

one extreme to the other. last night i was -- i heard that people were saying well, just watch biden, by god, age is not an issue any more. i think people have to just watch me. >> sandra: the president there remains defiant of his chances, today's speech will focus on medicare and social security we are told. something he says the gop wants to get rid of. >> john: republicans say that is not the case. florida senator rick scott challenging the president to have a debate on the issue. >> sandra: writing welcome to florida, joe biden, since you can't stop talking about me and lying to florida about social security and medicare, i'm sure you will accept my invitation to debate the issue. i'll be back in florida tonight. you pick the time and place. >> john: edward lawrence live on the north lawn. where does the debate stand at this point? >> the president is talking about medicare and social security at the university of tampa and going after senator

rick scott in his home state. the president expected again to pull out that brochure of senator scott's plan like he did yesterday in wisconsin, in that plan he's making the claim, the senator scott is making the claim to sunset every federal program after five years. the president saying it's an attack on social media and medicare. fact check this. listen to the president back in 1995, and senator scott today. >> when i argued if we should freeze federal spending, i meant social security as well. i meant medicare and medicaid. i meant veterans -- i meant every single solitary thing in the government. and i not only tried it once, i tried it twice, i tried it a third time and a fourth time. >> what a hypocrite. he accuses republicans that they want to cut medicare and social security, i never suggested that. i said we have to preserve them. >> no changes are made to the cbo says big part of social media will be insolvent in ten years and benefits cut 23%.

medicare hospital insurance will be insolvent in five years, and payouts cut to 10% or by 10%. aboard air force 1 on the way to tampa, the question posed what's the president's plan for medicare and social security, the white house press second saying not offering a plan for the president but saying the president is calling out republicans for wanting to cut those two programs. back to you guys. >> john: look, here is the thing, you cannot rein in the debt without making changes but nobody wants to touch them. on we go. >> you either cut spending or add revenue, one of the two. >> john: and then we all pay for the revenue. don't we. ed, thank you. >> sandra: byron york joining us now, byron, good to have you here. a bunch i want to run through here. first up when asked whether democrats want biden or someone else in 2024, overwhelming number of democrats and that number is growing, say they want to nominate someone else.

why do the big donors keep backing biden? >> democratic -- hoping that donald trump will be the republican nominee and joe biden seems to convince himself and perhaps some donors that donald trump represents a unique threat to the country, and that joe biden is the only man who can defeat him. so if you look at some of the reporting that came out of the democratic meeting in philadelphia, the winter meeting, that's what it is. they think trump is going to run and they believe biden can win. otherwise most democrats rank and file democrats and most americans are very concerned about a second biden term, a lot of them think he's too old and only less than one-third of his party wants him to be the nominee. >> sandra: that is remarkable. even "saturday night live"

apparently took a moment to mock the democrat party for not having anyone worthy of running in 2024. i should say anyone else. watch this. >> love the guy but he did his part. >> if biden is not going to run -- who will? >> just when you thought the terror was over. >> i don't know, i don't know, kamala? quick -- >> you realize it's just beginning. >> there's got to be someone. >> cory booker. >> he's corny. >> mayor b. >> listen to yourself. >> from the producers of "smile" and the twisted smiles of morning joe, -- [screaming] >> sandra: scary, funny, a good point, don't they have anyone else? >> listen, they do have someone else. this is a big, big problem.

kamala harris is the vice president of the united states, constitutional successor if something were to happen to president biden, and the natural political successor if he were to decide not to run. she's also the first vice president woman of color, vice president, and for democrats to toss her out, regardless whether they think she's politically not as skilled as they would like, is going to be a very, very difficult situation to say oh, miss harris, you are the vice president of the united states, the natural successor but we think other people might do better in the polls. that's going to be a hard, hard fight. >> sandra: and where everything goes with the ongoing investigations into the biden family, that will be a big question over the coming months. here was the president in a new interview on pbs about the investigations into his family. here is where he is taking it when asked. >> one of the things republicans say is a priority for them is investigating your family. >> the public is not going to

pay attention to that. they want these guys to do something. it's not going to go very far. >> sandra: you agree with that? >> classic tactic on biden's part, which is republicans can spend all their time investigating but i'm going to work for the american people. we have seen that many times from many different presidents under investigation. the big thing here is going to be whether republicans can come up with serious links between hunter biden's business practices, his shady business practices with all sorts of disreputable foreign sources of money and president joe biden. whether they can make that link in a convincing way. >> sandra: i'll finish off with the latest fox news polling on

americans wanting to probe hunter's business dealings. six out of ten americans want congress to probe hunter biden's business dealings. so there is great concern and interest out there. byron, thank you very much for joining us on all of that. good to see you. >> john: also new at 2:00, new word florida governor ron desantis is close to deciding on his own race for the white house. but his potential competition is not waiting before trying to put a dent in his rising popularity. how the 2024 race is already getting heated before it even begins. that's coming up. >> john, we are here in one of the hardest hit areas of turkey. behind us, believe it or not, the u.s. is here as well.

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still live on the ground in southeastern turkey. what's the latest on rescue operations there? >> john, we are in one of the hardest hit cities in southern turkey, we drove through here for the past couple of hours, and it's absolutely hell on earth. death, destruction, homeless, you name. guess who is helping out, united states. flying in search and rescue teams from fairfax, virginia and los angeles fire departments and they are looking for survivors. i'll step away and have ben show you what he is going on here. what you were looking at a, what was an apartment building, collapsed by that earthquake. there was one team here a bit earlier with the sniffer dog and they thought somebody perhaps could, believe it or not, after almost four days still be alive. so they brought in this bigger team. believe it or not, john, not enough room in their vehicles, we gave them a lift over here.

what they are doing is drilling a hole into the side of that concrete slab. they will then drop a camera down, drop sensors down, microphone, and try to go down to see if anybody possibly could still be alive at the scene. astounding, courageous work being done by these people from a very far distance away from the united states. we talked to another member of the team earlier, and here is what they told us. >> we are here to help the people of turkey. there are still a potential for trapped victims in many of these collapsed buildings and so we have reconnaissance teams going through the structures trying to find them, we are very optimistic there are a lot of victims in the city. >> so you think even three days after the earthquake you have a chance of saving some more people? >> absolutely. that's why we are here. >> we were told the team was sent here because again, it is

one of the hardest hit places in this region. and also because the government is a little bit thin on the ground here, president erdogan of turkey getting a lot of heat as we drove through, it took us about four hours to get here in a distance of about five miles, rubble everywhere, people out in the street, camping around fires, no heat, no electricity, you've got tens and tens of thousands of people without homes here, and hundreds of thousands now without homes throughout the region. again, the death toll now around 20,000 or more. injured, 50,000 or more. the death toll and the injured and the homeless numbers just climb and it's an incredible tragedy. and look once more at this brave team here, they are still drilling through, they will go into that rubble, they will see if anybody possibly could be alive. if not, the rubble will be

cleared away and those who are still there who have passed away will meet their final rest. that's it from here, john. and now back to you. >> john: greg palkot for us, the american teams, the pros from dover. anybody there left to be rescued they'll get them out. >> sandra: north korea showing off its nuclear threat in its biggest military parade to date. according to state media, pyongyang's parade included more intercontinental ballistic missiles than ever before, and enough to overwhelm the defense systems last year. north korea launched the most tests in a single year, including one with the range to strike the u.s. mainland. john. >> john: wow, that's quite a display. the fbi says much of the chinese spycraft debris remains

underwater in what they describe as a large scale debris scene. this as all house lawmakers have now received a classified briefing on the balloon, that includes california democratic congressman ro khanna. he serves on the house armed services committee, as well as oversight. he joins us now. congressman, thanks for being with us. what congress did you have going into this briefing and were they answered for you? >> i came away confident that the president did the right thing, that we took down the balloon at a time of our own choosing at the recommendations of what the military thought was the most prudent. going forward, we need to make sure that no balloons get over our air space and that we take them down well before they get to alaska or the continental united states. >> john: let me bring you back to that point. here is what the president said about taking down the balloon at the state of the union on tuesday. >> make no mistake about it. as we made clear last week, if

china threatens our sovereignty, we will act to protect our country and we did. >> john: in terms of protecting our sovereignty, we did not shoot down the balloon until it had pretty much exited american air space, just barely in american waters. congressman mike turner, your colleague there, likened this to taking out the quarterback after the game was already over. what did we prove about not tolerating a violation of american sovereignty by shooting it down after it had already transited the continental united states? >> as soon as the president was made aware, we took a lot of measures as you know to protect our most sensitive information, to make sure that was not taking place at any place that the balloon was traversing, and they made a conclusion that there was no sensitive information that was being compromised beyond what china had from the satellites. but the point is when the president had to make that decision, the balloon was already over the united states

land, and he had to weigh the risk of hurting americans, hurting communities with the imperative of taking it down. now in the future, i believe we need to take the balloon down if it ever happens again before it gets to alaska or the united states. it's happened too many times in the past. now we will be prepared. >> john: they spotted this thing while it was over the aleutian islands, had an opportunity to do it, they didn't do it. >> i think, look, this was -- the president was not notified at that time and as you know, this has happened. >> john: does that trouble you? >> well, going forward i think we do need to have the notification right away, and this is not a partisan issue because this happened in the previous administration where we didn't take down a balloon even as it was heading to the united states. i think there needs to be a new policy, bipartisan policy that the president needs to be notified right away, and in the

future -- we should be making it clear to china that we will take it down. >> john: effect on u.s.-china relations. >> no, the idea of shooting down a balloon that is gathering information over america is -- and that makes relations worse, look, i made it real cheer to xi jinping that we are going to compete fully with china but we are not going to look -- we are not looking for conflict. >> john: i'm not quite sure what all of that means, but the president spent just 65 seconds talking about china at the state of the union address. nikki haley says this president is letting china walk all over the united states. if he does not get tougher with xi jinping, what are the potential ramifications for the future, particularly on taiwan. >> i disagree with that. the president is ramping up

presence in the philippines to have deterrence on invasion in taiwan and he was talking about bringing manufacturing home, not allowing the offshoring that took place for the past 40 years that allowed china to develop its economy and bringing those jobs back here, rebalancing our trade deficit. that has to be right up there in terms of the our strategic imperative. the president is clear with xi jinping that any future attempts like this, the balloons will be shot down and it's unacceptable and there will be consequences. >> john: to the control room, call four number six here, judy woodruff also asked him about the classified documents found in various locations he had jurisdiction over. here is what he said. >> the best of my knowledge, the kinds of things they picked up were things from 1974, stray papers, there may be something else, i don't know. >> john: he said a lot of documents they picked up were from 1974, when he was a

freshman senator. what in the world was he doing with classified information when he was a freshman senator? >> i don't know, and they will need to explain that. they may have had different standards then. i can't take a single document -- >> john: i don't think so. >> when i get briefed, i go to a scif and i cannot take a single document out, i give over my cell phone and need to make sure those are the protocols. the point is, the president is fully cooperating and fully transparent and at some point he has to explain and his team will have to explain what the documents were, why they got there, and how they have cooperated in giving them back. the main thing is he should be fully transparent as he has been and cooperating. >> john: one thing to be fully transparent, another thing to have classified documents in your possession when you are not supposed to have them. should there be consequences here? >> i think no one is going to defend having classified documents. i think, look, obviously vice

president pence found them, he's turning them over. i think the point is, we need stronger controls so this does not happen again, and if people in good faith have discovered this and are turning them over and cooperating, then my view is they are doing the right thing as long as they are cooperating and transparent. >> john: all right. but other people in the past, though, have cooperated and still ended up in jail. so, see which way this one goes. congressman ro khanna of california, thanks for joining us. appreciate it. >> thank you. >> sandra: back to the house judiciary select subcommittee hearing happening on capitol hill at this hour, it is on the weaponization of the federal government. we heard from jonathan turley our colleague a short time ago, we just heard moments ago from nicole parker. a former fbi agent, we have had her on the program. she was tearing up as she recalled her decision to leave her dream job at the fbi after she said it became a different

fbi than she signed up for. it's about three minutes, listen here. >> the fbi became politically weaponized starting from the top in washington and trickling down to the field offices. although fbi employees have their first amendment rights they are not at the liberty to allow their personal political views or preferences to determine their course of action or inaction in any investigation. lady justice must remain blind. those that do not uphold these responsibilities cause a negative ripple effect throughout the agency and the field. it's as if there became two fbis. americans see this and it is destroying the bureau's credibility, causing americans -- it makes it difficult for agents to do their job when the fbi loses the respect of the american people. there has also been a shift in recruiting practices, lowering of the eligibility requirements, negatively impacting the agency performance and adds up to a loss of trust in the fbi by many

americans and low morale among many employees. for many, becoming a special agent was their calling in life, but now it's a high risk job with minimal contentment. wary of consequences that come with voicings displeasure, they work hard and stay off the radar and count down the days to collect the well deserved pensions. for me, with the actions became exhausting. i was treated with the highest level of respect in the miami division, i no longer felt i was the type of agent the fbi valued. began to lose passion for the career i love and the victims i assisted, criminals off the street and awards and accolades i had been given. i left nothing on the line as my work as a special agent. held out as long as i could hoping things would improve but i knew it was time to go. less than four months ago. of my own volition, i made the

difficult decision and walked away from the fbi with an exemplary and spotless record. i loved the fbi, and proud to have served with honor as a special agent. i sincerely pray for the future, fbi future success, the troubles of late were bigger than anything i could change. going forward i will continue to serve others in our beloved country while honoring the past and present heroes of the fbi. when i was invited to participating the hearing, my initial reaction was to decline, and why would i want to subject myself to testifying, putting a target on my back and likely facing public scrutiny. as i prayed about this invitation -- sorry -- a thought came to me to whom much is given, much is required, and i realize this is not about me.

i have been given the opportunity to speak up on behalf of numerous current and former bureau employees who feel simi similarly but do not have a voice. i'm not here to show favor to any political party. i am here to stand for the truth based on my experience at the fbi and all humility i hope to make an impact and creating a stronger agency which is what americans deserve. >> sandra: wow, incredibly emotional testimony there have the witness, nicole parker, she's been a guest on this program multiple times, john, and for anybody who wants to, foxnews.com has her piece she wrote when she left the fbi explaining why she left the fbi. it happened just a few months ago, walked away from the career she once loved and quite clearly there explained why. >> john: she's very emotional about this, because she joined the agency after 9/11.

she wanted to contribute in the way so many brave americans did after that heinous attack against our sovereignty and against our people. and for it to end up this way for her because of politics, she says, really is distressing. >> sandra: really remarkable. we will continue to keep our eye on the hearing room there in washington, john. on set now, joining us is the president of grv strategies and former chief of staff to congressman ken buck and sean duffy is also here, host of the bottom line on fox business, i'll be joining you tomorrow night. incredibly emotional testimony to watch nicole parker explain in very clear detail what she saw as the politization of the fbi, why she had to walk away and could not help but tear up and get emotional what has happened to it. >> someone who loved the fbi, and law enforcement, to have to walk away from a job you love because you have a corrupt agency, it pulls your heart strings. but we all know as americans this is what has been happening

at the fbi, whether it was the fbi going after parents who were protesting school districts in virginia that, you know, were teaching crt contrary to their wishes, and now the fbi is classifying traditional latin mass catholics as potential terrorists. the benefit here, with the house majority, republicans can expose what's happening at the fbi and demand change and if not change, they cannot eradicate but slim, cut their budgets until they get into compliance. and like nicole said, lady justice should be blind. apply the law equally to anybody, no matter political party, sex, race, religious, equally to everyone. >> sandra: you worked closely with chuck grassley, he just spoke, and obviously some really important testimony shared what people saw, when they saw it and the state of affairs on how government is being used, especially when it comes to

infiltrating social media and censoring free speech. >> nicole's speech there was very moving, obviously, when you see someone who went into law enforcement to do good, and there's a lot of very good rank and file agents at the top, we saw with james comey, a lot was uncovered with the things he did with saying essentially the former president was a russian asset with no evidence based on a dossier that now is false, adam schiff pushed the same thing. kevin mccarthy was right to remove him from the committee. chuck grassley has been key in this, and hunter biden, some of the collusion and censorship there, but deeply concerning not only targeting officials, like president trump, but average everyday citizens like parents concerned about what is taught in the schools. >> sandra: another hearing happening on capitol hill is one about the airlines, and i truly believe the american public has great interest in this, because

it feels like all our travel plans have been thrown off, if not a little bit, a lot in recent months. we saw what happened over the holidays. this is a democrat senator, exchange on southwest being warned by pilots about the issues, listen to this. >> did the southwest airline pilots association warn southwest about the issues that led to the meltdown, yes or no. >> warned about some of the issues part of the meltdown. >> why didn't you do anything about it. >> we were addressing part of those issues. obviously it was unsuccessful, but some crew scheduling, we had invested in that areas. >> that is unacceptable. you were warned. >> sandra: and you do look at the covid relief aid given to southwest airlines, that's a big part of the story. ten with a lots of zeros behind it. how did we get here and are lawmakers going to get to the bottom of this, gary. >> they were warned for weeks this was going to happen. i'm from buffalo, there was a

storm is there, and 16 flights canceled in ten days is ridiculous, when you think over ten days, people stranded from their families during the holiday, having to get to work, not being able to do that and not communicated with them. and $54 billion during covid, so bailed out over and over again. >> sandra: we were showing the number just so southwest. >> absolutely insane. and so a holistic situation, you are looking at here any time you go to an airport now, it's a bad experience, right. you are paying more for a taxi cab, bottle of water like costs like when you are going to disneyland, you know, your flight after you have gotten all these extra covid relief funding, billions of dollars, what was it used for, service is bad, flights are delayed, so you are seeing a need for competition, obviously a need for oversight, because nothing changes. ceos come and apologize and nothing changes. >> sandra: i think everybody is worried about overregulating. the airlines are highly regulated and causing a lot of the slowdown and the problems

and the costs to run up for the airlines. ted cruz was warning not to go too far. here is cruz. >> i could understand the appeal of saying that every airline must have only first class seats and a free foot massage with every flight, and that would make flying quite comfortable but it would also predictably drive up the cost. >> sandra: fair warning? >> i'm all in for free foot massages on my flights. cruz is right. an opportunity for the democrats to say we want to regulate and more regulation for airline travel. the airlines are a critical infrastructure so congress has a role to look at what happened when southwest fails but markets work, you believe in markets, and so when southwest can't deliver you from newark to dallas. >> sandra: somebody else will. >> somebody else will and they will lose market share, so the government does not need to step in and fix the infrastructure of southwest, the customers will do that, and so -- but i do think making sure airlines actually can function for the american

people, that does matter and that's the role of congress, but that's not -- ted cruz is right, not what the purpose of democrats is here, they want more regulation. >> very good point. you are saying there are good airlines, jetblue, and one based here in new york city have good service and people are flocking to those. >> i'm a delta guy. >> sandra: the free market always wins. thank you very much, john. >> john: boston, the latest big city exploring paying reparations for african americans, pushing to hand out millions to minority groups they say led to lack of opportunity and displacement of families. why is this seemingly regaining steam? vivek, good to see you in the studio. good chance to shake hands with each other. so michelle wu, the mayor of boston has a ten member panel, includes two high school

students, and college student including blm on the panel, reparations in the state of massachusetts and how much it should be. what do you think of this panel itself and idea of reparations in the state of massachusetts? >> i think there was a time and place for reparations, back in 1870 right after the civil war ended. that moment has passed and now if we keep on looking backward, i don't think we are going to find a way to move forward as a country, john. if you think about it, all kinds of implementation issues. who counts as black, you have a lot of people who claim to be black who in the strict sense really ought not have been included in the program. even the kids of immigrants who came over in the 60s or 70s. implementation issues aside, what does this really do, it creates an incentive structure for people to compete to be a victim. what about japanese americans whose parents or grandparents were in the internment camps, jewish americans who experienced discrimination, victimhood

olympics and no gold medal, only one loser in the end, and that is america. and that's where this discussion takes us is looking backward instead of looking forward. where we need to go. >> john: the history of massachusetts, it was a slave state from 1640 to 1883, and california, 1850, a free state. no slavery in the state of california, but there was african american americans and native americans. what's the right solution here? >> right solution, equal opportunity going forward in the country. i worry what we are creating is a new form of psychological slavery today teaching kids they cannot get ahead in the country because of the color of their skin. i think we have to embrace martin luther king's message you do get ahead in america, not the color of your skin but the content of your character, and when you teach kids to think of themselves as victims, that's when they actually behave like victims and leave themselves

even worse off. it's no accident that african americans in this country are economically in many places worse off today than they were even decades ago as a consequence of policies that were supposed to help black americans. now making it explicitly tied to race is not going to help things. >> john: the messaging to kids, reboot of "the proud family," episode that was surrounding juneteenth. listen to the message that is being given to kids target age as young as seven for the program. >> we had tubman, turner. frederick b., and they s say lincoln fleed the slaves. >> emancipation is not freedom. >> also calling for reparations in the program. this is message sent to young children. one thing an 11th grader on the reparations committee, but children the age of 7 or 8 able

to fully grasp this? >> tell the kids you can get ahead no matter what your skin color is, based on commitment, hard work and education. and if disney is doing the jobs with products most parents want to expose their kids to as customers they would be advancing that message. instead, what is disney doing, apologizing for an overdue debt based on the pact they ran into a controversy last year on gender issues, now they are apologizing through this remember fo of apology racist issue instead. the more parents involved and saying we are not going to allow our kids to be indoctrinated, the more can achieve their potential. >> john: always great to hear from you, and in person. come by soon. >> sandra: three days to go

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>> sandra: a massachusetts man

that prosecutors say googled how to chop up and hide a body appeared in court today charged with murdering his wife. that is even though his body has never been found. molly lion is live with more. you were in the courtroom today. what happened? >> brian walshe appeared via video because he remains in jail because of the charges. he was wearing an orange prison suit and speaking only to confirm that he could hear the proceedings. walsh's attorney says she's not received timely discovery from prosecutors and was openly acknowledged that a grand jury is working on the case. ana walshe disappeared from her home new year's day. prosecutors say her husband killed and december membered her. >> there's an alarming pattern

of internet searches that suggests he was involved in her death and disappearance. without having to body, it's going to be up to the prosecution to prove that all of these different pieces of circumstantial evidence fit together like a glove. >> on new year's eve, ana and brian entertained a family friend that left around 1:00 a.m. 5:00 a.m., brian walshe started a series of internet searches including how long before a body stops spelling. ten ways to dispose of a dead body if you need to. by january 2, prosecutors say walshe looked up can you be charged with murder without a body. brian walshe is a convicted art fraudster. prosecutors said he lied about his whereabouts in the days after the killing leading to early charges of misleading

investigators. prosecutors say he was on video paying for cleaning supplies with cash. a bloody damaged knife was found in his home and block-soaked rug in a garbage near walsh's mother's home. walsh is held without bail and slated to be in court march 1. >> sandra: thanks, molly. john? >> john: may be months away from announcing a 2024 campaign decision but other republican white house hopefuls are taking aim at ron desantis hoping to knock him off of it's he perch. it comes as a new poll shows that he and former president trump are the only 2024 possibilities generating significant buzz. rich edson is watching the race. desantis has a sizable lied over the former president in a couple polls. >> he does, john. especially if you look at that

head-to-head matchup as you mentioned. 33% support if you have the full peeled with president trump and governor ron desantis. you cut that head to head, dean -- desantis is up 53-40. that brings criticism. former president trump, the only fish candidate in the race has been attacking desantis more. he posted a photo on truth social that supposedly shows desantis posing with female students when he taught high school for a year just out of college suggesting without evidence that desantis was inappropriate. it's unclear who the females are and their ages. a democratic super pact put the photo out a couple years ago. desantis says he faces defamatory stuff every day as governor.

>> i spend my time delivering results for the people of florida and fighting against joe biden. that's how i spend my time. i don't spend my time trying to smear other republicans. >> other -- [ audio difficulties ] -- time capturing a lot of attention on fox news. john? >> rich edson with the latest. there's lots of polls that show president trump with a lead over ron desantis. still early on. a lot can change. sa sandra? >> sandra: the philadelphia eagles and kansas city chiefs are getting ready to face offer. this fan is gearing up for his own super bowl of sorts. this man says he's going to make 4,000 jell-o shots to give out

to fans. it called for 40 judges of vodka and will cost $700. he went viral for launching jell-o shots in the crowd after the nfc championship win. the super bowl is sunday only on fox. i don't know if it's just me, i'm not in to the jell-o shot thing. >> i'm not either. does he launch them in to people's mouths or go splat. >> sandra: sounds dangerous. good afternoon. >> martha: super bowl jell-o shots. good afternoon. i'm martha maccallum live in washington today where right now a house committee is tackling alleged political bias within our department of justice. judiciary chair jim jordan checking off a list of examples that he calls the political nature of the justice department. listen to this. >> the fbi whistle-blower discloses to republicans on the house judiciary that the fib crea