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connection with the university . if any, we're not sure if he was a student or a teacher or someone who just knew the campus east lansing police say it will take days to complete their investigation. they have ongoing processing going on at the locations of the shootings . this all began monday night at around 8, 30, eastern time at berkey hall, an academic building. a separate shooting followed nearby at the msu student union, popular gathering spot, and students and the community were ordered to shelter in place for hours. concerned parents were warned to stay away. those orders have now been lifted. no word so far on the conditions of the five wounded, but we were told they did suffer life threatening injuries michigan state has about 50,000 students. all campus activities have been canceled for the next two days. of course, continue to monitor this situation just to repeat the shooting at m s u

university university in east lansing, michigan, has come to an end, at least from the shooting standpoint, the shooter is dead from a self inflicted gunshot wound, but he left in his wake. three victims were shot at berkey hall, one at the student union hall. five other victims have now been placed in hospitals. conditions are not yet known. but we are told some have life threatening injuries. a senseless act of violence. the police, the chief deputy chief of police said. it's beginning a long healing process as they begin to understand why the shooter entered the building why the shooter felt motivated to kill. and maimed so many people will, of course, be following this story for the next few hours, will monitor the situation throughout the morning and is situationemas throughout the morning. and let's nosing.e is goinw go to tucker came fr carlson tonight. >> already in progress.

>> other planet, whatever theye are, they were floating, carried along by wind currents. that means they're lighter than air and therefore, unablemosphe to enter our atmosphere without burning up. they must have comrefrome from n >> in other words, they're what we earthlings call balloon the balloons. >> heard the word before. s weird is that no one in charge is willing to say the b word out loud. kirby >> watch flac. john kirby refused to describegv the flying octagon overer michigan. >> can you tell us anything more about this diagonal object? how big was it? >> we're still trying to assess what what that was.it i'm not going to get intoion i' vea description. ed i've seen the press reports about what it looked like. e i think we all need to be humble here in terms of what ability is to positively identify stuff from fighteuff fd aircraft that are going several hundred miles an hour passedsenr essentiallms oy in terms of relative motion, a stationary.

that was not ver object that was not very big. so we don't know what thisk exactly look like. and again, we're still not suret exactly what what the purpose of it was or who owned. >> well, he's got a necktieckti on and he's standingon in front of a podium.e wa >> buty th is this normal? is this the way things are supposed to work? we shot these things down, but we have no idea what they were . we don't know where they came from or what they were doing here.e is that's what he's saying. maybe that's what they're all saying.h and maybe that's true. on the other hand , this is the same administration that sabotaged the nord streamial te pipeline, the single biggest act of industrial terrorism in history. histand continues to lie about . so on the other hand , maybe it's not true.d reth nooran says the u.s. has just readjusted itads radarectsi filter. >> sn skyo all of a sudden we're seeing all these objects in the sky we didn't know were thee there flying at altitudes thatp pose an obvious threatt to com to commercial airliners. >> okay, and you should takeu sh that seriously. at serioespecially because it'st

been reported. we cannot confirm this, but you've got to wonder that at least one of these objects was a national weather service balloon. again, unconfirmed, but if that's true, it would mean the biden administration used fighter jetsstration to shoot ds own balloon. and we really are becomings hope fetterman nation. let's hope that's not true. t we're starting suspect it might . >> either way, what we know for certain tonight is that there is chaos in america's domestic airspace that has never happened before. >> not a go it's not a good sign. >> there's chaos in the ground to a lot of it. 10% 10 days ago, for example, a train derailed in eastutes o palestinute, ohio.s some that's about k 50 minutes outsie pittsburgh. apparently, there was some kind of mechanical failure. we still don'tt that have detais on what that failure was. n at >> of course we don't. we do know about 50 carsen of th garailed, at least ten of them were carrying thousands of gallons of highly dangerous chemicals, including vinyl chloride, which causes cancer. >> watch. it started with the thunderous

boom and then a huge plume ofac thick black smoke that could be seen for miles.th this wasis w the moment officiar in east palestine, ohio, had o been planning for a controlled release of toxic chemicals from several train cars aal tt the st derailment, one that has forced thousands from their homes allkg the way around. everybody's frustrated, like to go home. the decision to conducte a controlled release came justcy days after the train derailedarg in the rural ohio community, sparking a massivesive fire as the blaze continue to burn through the weekend. >>o burnh the we concerns quick that's becauseth five of bec the train cars carriede ch the chemical vinyl chloride inem unstable material with the potential to explode, shooting readly d shrapnel up to a mile away and releasing toxic fumes t into the air. >> we don't want to second guess anybody. we got to assume everybody involved was doing their best under a highlyr best stressful

situation. >> but did you see that mushroom cloud that was caused on purpose? and maybe there's a good reason. meain, no second guessing, butte would it means is those clouds of toxic smoke flew up and out and that toxic smoke almost immediately began killing animals. >> dead fish washed up on shorae is one hazardous materials specialists put it. >> we basicall.y nukeuked td a i with chemicals. >> so thenveom representatives m the epa, the environmental protection agency, arrived to restore calm. st, epa spokesman explained chemicals from the derailed train did entee local r a local watershed. >> and yes, they did kill fish. but the drinking water supply remains totally safe . >> the fish are dead. >> but go ahead and fill your thermos and brewe. some coffee. >> everything's fine now. we don't know if the locals in east palestine are drinking the water tonight, but we cantro tell you the busn hy conc administration doesn't seem too concerned about it. >>er either way. >> donald trumfp got over 71% of

the vote in the county intion t the last presidential election. that's nothaot exact exactly the democratic party's core demographic. >> fentany. l, toxic waste spill, whatever . >> they're not our voters.al and by the way spill, what does a chemical spill have to do with climate change if you can't use it to sell solarls panels? it's not really an that' environmental disaster. >> that's the rule ie inn washington. so no one in the bush commu administration bothered to issue warnings to communities that might be inn the path of those toxic. mushroom clouds. you saw floating up from the train wreck because no one cared enough to do that. >> but a judge is the official e who's supposed to be in chargero of our transportation infrastructure. >> technically, he's the transportation secretary, technt >> at an appearance today, he seemed to have no idea thatit there wa s a train derailment in east palestine. ohio is real concern explained is that we have too many whitent construction workers ie n this country. >> we have heard way too many stor stories from generatioien past f

infrastructure where you gotn a neighborhood oftent everyone neighborhood of color that finally sees the project come to them. but everyone in the hardhats isn on that project looking like, you know, doing doing the good paying jobs don't look like they came from anywhere near the neighborhood. >> yeah, that's the problem.kert there aren't toooo many whitein guys in hardhats. >> why didn't we realize this before we buile wet all this infrastructure, this now crumbling? it's actually not funny. over j and future historiansus will marvel at just how much damage one incompetent narcissistch can cause when he's elevated to a serious topic. transportation secretary, ld at here's a guy who could not on a bet, who could not at gun point change his own tire, who oversees our roads, railways, and airports, all of which are crumbling from mismanagement and neglect. and not just from mismanagements and neglect.manant but also from actual acts ofe. sabotage over the last two more years, the fbi has investigated more than 40 cases of rail rea l sasabotage in washington state

alone in one state now, a lot of those attacks involvee so-called shunt devices. those are wires stretched are witbetween tracks that inte with the trains, electrical signals and cause derailments. in one incident just before christmas in 2020, a shunt caused a train to derail in custer, washington. >> that train spilledforced thirty thousand gallons of crude oil and forced locals to evacuate their homes. >> well, that's notlk the environmental disaster. the joe biden talks about because, of course, he can't buy solar panels from the chinese to fix it. but it was, objectively terro speaking, an act orif terrorismn >> the interesting thing is very often, in fact, in the majority of cases, people who commit acts of terrorismin against infrastructure, whoevefa they are, are never punished. and the ones who are caught aren't really punished. hed.one woman who tried to desty trains using a shunt got out of jail after only a year. >> oh, so no one's paying any attention and no one really seems to care because what does that have to do with environmental racism and climate? ofime?t ofsibly as a resul

that attitude, there are t an awful lot of train derailments in this country. manymore thau ma more than you . >>mo in the last calendar year, more than a thousandof trains went off the tracks in the united states . >> how's that for a metaphor? etaphojust today, two more trais derailed. >> one of them wass in south carolina and one was in texas, u near houston. the train near houston was also carrying hazardous materials, as so many trains are. exactl >> what's going on here exactly? we're not even going to guess, but we can't tell you. >> the case is not limitedy to our rail system. our there have also been many recent attacks on our powerhave grid. very few of those attacks haveen been widely reported year th lar . >> therea are more thanhe a hundred attacks of them in the united states , attacks on our power grid in northa th carolina this winter, for example, w nearly fifty thousans people lost their power in freezing temperatures whenand so somebody shot up to energy substations and so on . a why is it not a big story? oh, it's not a story at all. and of course, at the same

time, we've also seen a series of bizarre accidents befalling i the food industry, threateningnd our food supply that would include unexplained fires and plane crashes and processing plants to chicken feed that seems to stop end production. boy, next, they'll be coming for the water. ohy , waitar, they are less tham a month into the bidenth administration was alsere oe a highly sophisticated attack on the water supply outsidwae tampa. >> pinellas county sheriffat hea bob dole, tyre nichols water treatment plant operator, first noticed the remote access haak . the bad acto ar increasedof the amount of sodium hydroxide to rely in the water supply from one hundred parts perer mii million to more than 11000.,000 for the fifteen thousand residents of oldsmar, florida, d the increase of sodium hydroxide in the water supply could have caused vomiting, chest and abdominal pain. >> this typel of activity in this type of hacking of type critical infrastructurofe is not necessarily limited to just water supply systems. it can be anything ot an attack

on our water supply. that's weird. . an attai didn't read that in t york times. but what's interesting, no ithew yto connect the dots or anythit that was not the onlhiy attackkn on our water supply that year in january . 2020 one , there was a similar i effort to poison the watereatme treatment plant that serves the san francisco bay area. unidentified hacker accesseddent the facility's computers ifieremotely, according to nbc,o quote, after logging in the hacker deleted programs the water plant used to treat drinking water. now, fortunately, in this caseet somebody noticed it. >> the next day the attack was discovered in those programs. poinstalled. >> so nobody got poison, but they kept trying. there were similar hacks of water treatment facilities in trea in august of 2020 one . there was one in maine in july. of 2020 one . >> there was one in pennsylvania in may of twenty ,n twenty one in nevada. evch andin march.be inr new jersey in september of 2020 in kansas in march of twenty and so on . >> so who's looking afterer a w suwateatr supply.

water.that's that's kind of basic. well that's the job of the epa. who was protecting the water hat what is protecting the water have to doou with passing out cash in the name of remediating environmental racism? >> oh, nothingsm, oh. so they're note not pa paying attention. in fact, they're not to extenttention to such that even"t "the washington post", which is a shill for the administrationhe wich is a o as was one pointed out, the quote, for more than twowo e decades, the epa has not been resourced or organizedtor agai to secure the nation's water and wastewater sector against physical and cyber threats. >> cyber wait a second. attenti so nobody's paying attention to the most critical infrastructure, not the racist roads, but food, water, energy ,transportation, infrastructure, food, water,gy energy, infrastructure. what does that add up to ally. that adds up to a country. you can't have a country without those things. wiand in every single case,caus whatever the cause, are food, water, o energy and infrastructure are being degraded. ar going

>> who knows why? why ou didn't know any better, you think there might be a war going on .t. >> why is no one talking aboutce this? jerry vancnter in the is senatoo the u.s. senate. >> he represents the state of ohio. senatohappy to have him join us tonight. senator , thank you so much for coming on tonight. >> the tragedy in palestine inht your state kind of points up that something is kind of wrongr with the fundamentals. i mean, if there are hundredse u of trainedndreds ailments like e paying attention to this stuff and trying to prevent. >> well, tucker, we've hadtraine hundreds of train derailmentsspt after we spent over a trillionn dollars on infrastructure in this country. to the fact that thiy s isn'betn getting obviously better is dica major indictment of the peoplere spending the money and what they're spending the money on .. that we know if you listeny pe to secretary budig today thatte us morthey are focused more on whether we have too many white men in construction jobs thans o he is on the fundamentals of his job, which is ensuring we have a viable transportation infrastructure in this country. and unfortunately,inountrycons my constituents in eastti palestine have been some oenf the main victims of the facty.

that we have failing again infrastructure in our country. again, after ain spending tons f money in an effort to actually fix it. so the problem we have, tucker,s is that we are ruled by unserious people who are worried about fake problems thattad of the real fact tha our country is falling apart. and some of the most important a ri you mentioned the environmental protection agency, of course, it says it right there. it should be focused on clead bn ear, clean water. it's the thingst that i'm most focused on for the people of palestine. focu they're focused on environmental racism thing and other ridiculous things. fistead ofd of fixin fixg the pm that they are established to fix, you get elected to theoa senatete in part because youlita said, look, the people thatll i grew up with , in your case, literally, that you grew up with and are related to are dying of drugs and no one inme l washington seems to care. this seems a corollary to that.h they talk a lot aboutnmenta the environment and environmental racism, but this seemsl t it an actual tak environmental disaster. i don't detect any urgency fronm

the epa or from washington at all. >> is it because these aree not their voters?? i think that's a big part of coy it. i think that the entire the complex,hidia the leaders of this countryd tod have decidedis to disregardk th the people of palestine. ifwa you look at the way thatcoe this story hasre been covered ,u if it's beent covered at all, it's about how , you know,st there there are poor people in east palestine who have been victimized by this disaster. questions about e that's true. but you want journalists asking tough questions about what's going on . you want to know, for example,,h what level oatf vinyl chlorideil is actually acceptable in the water. i've been trying to get and a l answere to to that question for days. i haven't been able to get anrie answer to it. why is vinyl chloride being or showing up in the ohio river ini west virginia? in cincinnati, hundreds of h miles away from where this accident took place? the there are a lot ofre questions a and we don't, unfortunately,esti have a media that'sons actually interested in asking those questions. and answering them. >> it's just crazy. all these people are likeaintin defacing paintingsgs because they care about the earth. >> if yor u care about the eart, clean air and water is the

first step. >> i appreciateat if you can't get an answer as a sitting u.s. senator from the state affected, that just tells you everything rightare wo there. thank you. so we're working it. tucker, thank you.rking at so nobody will say what these flying objects we keep shootingk down are. it it's worth pressing a little bit on that question. you shoot something down, likee you should know what it is , where did it come from?as som how to get over our country? our next guest has some idea. >> we'll be right back . what a privilege it is for you to have me here this evening. ladies and gentlemen, go worry. i'm going to get them all tonight. we can learn to get along, for god's sake. they apologized. . and finally, dear abc, ever

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absolutely. free. >> that's g m e two for two for two for there's puzzling level of secrecy around these objects at the pentagon. >> keep shooting down.how th they tell us they shot themn it down. i'll tell us all w about how thl shot them down. they'll tell us nothing about the objects. we know they have footage of the objects, but of course, ares not releasing any of t it. >> what is this?this well, it's i not the first timen it's happened. nearly twenty years ago,fa fighter pilots captured images of the now famoumouss tic-tac uo off the coast of southern california. chad underwood is a former navyk pilot. his plane is the one that took those pictures. that's footage of the pentagon hid for decades. so he has a master's degree in m this kind of thing. >> we're very happy to have him join us tonight. >> i don't know what thank you so much for coming on .n your so f good to be givenarios your familiarity with scenarios like this. >> what do you what do youlig ir think is going on here?

not not quite sure that the difference is that i've noticed in two thousand four versus present day is thatc nate the erratic nature of which these objects were flying ine a two thousand four, they are much more erratic, is documented. and today it's seemed a little bit more predictable. >> and what surprises me is the rules of engagement arerewrit literally being rewritten inte front of us and we have as a tactical aviator, we have ruleso that we have to follow in order to get authority to shoot an aircraft down. yeah. now it's coming from a chief, us commander in chief level of the united states , canada, oetc., which is kind of the trump card, if you will , hv

and it's a get out of jail free card for the pilots, that's for sure. but it's just it's it's very different. coll ikly ift is . really quickly, if you could elaborate on that, for those of us who've never been fighter pilots, it's unusual to get unr from the commander in chief or the canadian primeme ms minister to go ahead and shoot so you're down that pilots don't typically get righsayingt is that. >> no,? they don't. yeah, yeah, exactly. yeah, exacy normally we operate autonomously and we go and identify an aircraft and then we either shoot it down or we as don't. >> and if it's a presidential order, that's a yo u shall shoot down this aircraft, then ite changes the game entirely. and we're literally watching watchingthose rules of engagemeb changed and then not reallyre change, but altered in everyy way from both sides.h side

and it's it's a kind of a dangerous place to be because it's it's this has been an interesting couple of weeks. and it's we'll see what happensa from here. >>t has from yeah, i have the f, as in your case, nineteen years ago when i learned that what we've been told is differentu fo from what actually happened. but we'll see.us chet underwood, thanks for ton joining. ight ou are >> i appreciate it. welcome. you're welcome . so the bush administration has shot down, by our count, there may be others, but we know of four objects shot down over9 das this country in the past eight or nine days.w for sure ws one of them we know for sure, was from china. and it had some kind of surveillance equipment today.jok white house flack john kirbyee didn't seem worriem worrd aboute however. >> watchse.y the first one was chinese. sai they admitted it wasd they clai was a weather balloon.ution forh we know it's not these three . we don't have attribution for

right now. we don't know.m, s we don't know who owns them.o i gonna take anyone's so i'm not going to take anybody's word at face value can n get a chancewe in to to take a look at them. are we in touch with thee chine? we chinese? we have we have ane embassyan n beijing. we we maintain routine diplomatic conversations and we have had in over that spy balloonnd incident. we did have private discussionsh with senior chinese leaders. unfortunately, the chinese secrtary is not interested in talking to secretary secretary of defense ashton, but there are still ways to communicate. and the president will tell youe that now is exactly the timenicn to at least preserve some of so thatthose lines of communico that we can avoid mis miscalculation. going on so what is going on here exactly? some things going on here, very obviously. gordon chang is a senior fellow at the gates institute. gordon, thank you so much forcog coming. >> so what just given everything we've seen in the past ten days, what do you think is happening?

>> i think that, first of all, the three objects shut down, shut down friday, saturday, sunday, probably from china oria from russia. shot downnited stts on friday and saturdayfr approached the unitedom states from the north.it could u and so that means russia, it could be the russians doing it. it could be the chinese using russian soil. but we also got to remember that we're coming on the eve oen the one year anniversary t of russia's attack on ukraine and maybe the chinese are trying to divert us from perhaps what the russians are going to do. i don't know. e thing is tha but the thing, tucker, is theo k bush administration needs to to talk to us. justin trudeau, the canadian prime minister, talk to the canadian people about shooting down the object on saturday.n sk they'd w you'd think biden would wantjech to talk to the american people about the three objects that were shot down over american territorial airspace. >> yeah, i mean, it's possible he's just not capable of doing

that. >> so in the in the last day or so, it was over the weekend, c chinhina aa announced there was a balloon over their territory, suggested it was ours, of course, we'd never take that ata face value. >> but what do you think that was? is exis is china just trying to make excuses and thisif the is propaganda. if the chinese hadec detectetedn american balloon in chineseterrt territorial airspace, they would have talked aboutce immediately. ten of now they're saying that the they were ten of these americant balloons in china last year. that's just not credible. also, it is people know that the u.s. does not have a spy balloon program. yelledarly we don't have and the chinese would certainly have yelled and screamed if wee. had violated their airspace really quick. if you could just sum it up,s does this strike all these developments, strike you together? as ominous? >> yes, they do, because they chose certainly the chinese balloon intrusion

shows an utter usion sh disregard and disrespect for the united faates by floating that over our most sensitive facilities.. and that really means that deterrence is now lost, which te means the chinese are probably going to do whatever they want, whicto bh means we're going to in a very difficult situation,ov perhaps over the united states , but certainly in asia as well. >> disrespect is never a good sign. not in the prison chow line, not an international affairs.hay >>ou it's not good. gordon chang, appreciate it. thank you so much. thanks, tucker. >> so we told you the otherazin night that kind of astn amazing story of a seventy three year ol d rancher in arizona who lives right on the border, who , for reasons that we didn't know at the time, shot a foreign national who was on his property. on it is now bein firg heldst on a million dollars bail on firsteno murder charges. tonight, we found out what exactly happened on his ranch and it's mind boggling. more on that next dognapper.

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minor updates that will provide . and then we will open it up for a couple of questions. please keep in mind that there's not much new information that we have. since we last had a briefing about an hour ago. i will start by sharing an update that be five victims that were transported to the hospital. were transported to sparrow hospital in lansing. all five of those victims remain in critical condition. i will also share that the incident that occurred off campus. with the suspect. occurred in the city of lansing. off campus. that suspect. is we now know is a 43

year old male. that 43 year old male is not affiliated in any way with michigan state university is not a student faculty staff. and we have no idea why he came to campus to do this tonight. that is part of our ongoing investigation. as the president said, we know this news. it is so difficult for those within our campus community and beyond. it's important to remember that the grief some individuals may be experiencing is normal. and there are a number of ways that individuals can seek support, including talking with friends, families and colleagues. after this briefing, we will be sharing supportive resources through our police and public safety, social media pages that we've been asking people to

follow. as well as the university communications. highlighting other resources that are available in addition to the event tomorrow at the community center. yes. just a reminder that this is an ongoing investigation that will involve multiple agencies that are currently here on campus and maybe some based on expertise that will also assist in the future. this is a process it will take some time. i know we all want answers and well as soon as we have them, we will share them. uh um, that is something that will occur over the next few days immediately. we will continue to have these updates with our community as well as with our media moving forward with it. it's a process, the answers will come. um hopefully what has been shared to this point? um, is enough. to assist in

what we're all trying to do, which is to recover. at this point. the next couple of days as you've heard. from president woodruff and also deputy chief rosman in regards to resources that will be available by those that are impacted. um if you witness people that need assistance. please speak up. encourage them to seek help. sometimes they're just unable to do it alone. and sometimes you just need to have a little little assistance to get them going with that. those resources would be available. we will now take questions. have the eight who was shot three fatally, five were in the hospital, other any other victims today. our knowledge. there are only eight total victims in this case, three that are deceased and five at the hospital. yes. okay you

have any updates on the surgical status of these victims have in surgery now they come out since so we do not have those specific updates . what we were told by sparrow hospitals that they remain in critical condition. we may have future updates more specific updates in the morning as we coordinate that information with the spirit health system. so they confirm students, faculty members. yes we are still working to fully identify all of the victims that are involved in this case and if they have affiliation to our university, we will continue to, um we will continue to pursue that and we will share that information is soon as we are able to. please understand that behind every victim is a family and our loved ones and we need to be respectful to that. and so we will share information as soon as possible regarding the identity of those

victims, especially the deceased and any affiliation that they may have had with with michigan state university. without identifying can you just characterized what? their age ranges? i don't currently have that information. investigators have that information. we're still processing it and working through it. hopefully tomorrow will be able to put that information together and share more details. over. state police will be conducting the investigation, coordinating it, another agency. so it would be a collaborative process with that we do have ability to partner. we will do that. in a circumstance like this. the preferences for those agencies that have the resources and expertise at this level. um they will take the lead on that particular step in the investigation. we are just happened here we are the primary law enforcement agency

will be involved every step of the way. but when you have resources like we do locally at the state level at the federal level. we are going to take advantage of those resources and utilize them. yes, sir. what's the suspect founded or was there was some sort of contact. so again. we're still working through the investigation. our understanding is that the suspect was confronted by law enforcement. but. north lansing right now, the call of the suspect. i cannot confirm, assure any information about that. right now. there are several parts of the investigation, including the suspect's residence, where he where he lived that are part of that investigation. i'm not able to share that at this time. in front of the suspect, lansing resident i cannot confirm residency status of the suspect at this time. is there

any update on the weapon that was used? no we do not have a current update in terms of the weapon type that was used. that will be part of our investigation, obviously, and we'll work through that. we will share that information when we are able to please understand that we may have initial information before we share that we want to make sure it's accurate. and so that's part of that process that we're working through with. the investigation is confirming the accuracy of information. which is why we want to be be mindful of that, as we share information, good. what this suspect had on. more ammunition. i cannot. i cannot confirm what the suspect had on him at the time of the incident off campus, all i can confirm is what he was wearing and had on him on campus. in the photograph that we released during the incident. yes, um.

tell me more about how the suspect was contacted by police as mentioned in the previous presser. so i cannot offer any additional information in terms of why law enforcement contacted that suspect. what i can say is that with the overwhelming response of law enforcement officers that we had from across the state, we began to deploy those resources out in different perimeter zones and different waves in all of those officers were looking for this particular suspect that we identified. very quickly with a with a photograph that was shared with all of the officers in the field. so there were hundreds of officers that we're looking for this individual what led the officers to come across him and contact him? we will determine that that will be part of our investigation. but i'm not able to share that at this point. in the back. scribe. the resident's hall. is it like a. i can't hear about

that. and if you could just talk to the monumental task that you guys had a large campus dark outside just how you went about your work tonight? sure i'll take the first part of the access and i'll turn it over the chief for the monumental task ahead. the two buildings and questions berkey hall is a academic building. it's a purely academic building. there's no residents. it's not a residents all facility that building is unlocked and open to the public during during business hours, if you will. this incident did occur before the building was secured overnight. um and to my knowledge there were activities occurring in that building as part of the academic function of the university. the second building. the msu union is similarly open to the general public does not require any special access. it's a building that is open not only to students faculty staff but to the general public, and that building was open at the time.

it does have hours where it closes. this occurred during the hours that the building was open and i'll turn over the chief of the second part. okay and that's part of the monumental task, right? we do have, uh, areas are accessible to the public with that the task in itself is that we have 400 buildings on campus and over 5300 acres. with that and part of the process of the response that we had is that we were able to divide and organized to be methodical in the search process with that to obtain evidence in the sharing as he comes through, but with the university of our size and the area that we're responsible for um, that becomes a task with that, and it's also as part of what we try to establish here as a culture. is that we all in some way are accountable to each other for safety and things of that nature with it. the questions that you were starting to get you with the access control and things of that nature. those are and the residents, halls

and components like that that are not open to the general public, but the facilities where this actually occurred. um at the time it was open. open to the public. good how long does suspect was on campus prior to the first shooting occurring and if they had been on campus at all previously? i do not have that information currently how long the suspect was on campus before he entered berkey hall, the location of the first incident is not known at this time, but that is something that our investigators will be interested in, and we'll be following up on, but i don't have that right now. in the back public buildings. are you aware of any kind of safety mechanisms were inside, like, night walk and things like that. so we do have a robust and comprehensive safety plan on campus, like the chief said. we have a lot of buildings, and every building is built differently constructed different differently, but we

have assessed and we continue to assess our security features within those buildings. um in this instance. today we relied very heavily on our notification systems. we know that during an incident involving an active shooter that providing clear instructions to the community in terms of actions to take is very important, and that's why we pushed the information out very quickly that there was an incident occurring. um to shelter in place to run, hide fight, and we implemented the training that we have had in place. the emergency planes that we have had in place and we instituted the training that not only the officers had but that we've trained our community how to respond to an incident like this as well. so it's hard to talk about specific physical security features of a particular building. uh down the road after this incident, that obviously is something that we will look at, and if there's ways to improve, we will look to improve. but right now we're

really focused on the immediate response and the immediate aftermath to this tragedy. gonna go over here. the president of oprah. what do you first found out. from the shooting on campus over through your mind. my first tried to get the information so it was critical to me that i have accurate information. and then my thoughts immediately went to the individuals. who had been shot in their families and the students around them, and i think one of the things i'm most proud of, as on a campus this side sides how quickly every student staff faculty member immediately took action. they sheltered in place, and they did so for hours in order to allow our law enforcement to come together and quickly be able to survey the campus and set up the perimeters that were described so my thoughts immediately went to those

individuals who were in that room in that classroom and my prayers went to heaven. okay good. i think it said before that that when you guys were responding to european union, there were other calls for other calls that turned out to be false. do you believe like those were intentionally false urgency? part of the chaos of what happened. yes so just to be clear. the initial calls were only berkey hall in the union, um, after the suspect left the union we did receive multiple ah, erroneous reports of several either shooting incidents or incidents across campus at different locations. um obviously, that's going to be part of the investigation. in terms of where those phone calls came from, and who placed them. um at this point, i can't offer any specifics, but that is something that we're very

interested to determine and will be up one of the focal points of the investigation to see if that's related in any way good reports. other reports were there that weren't true. because. i don't have a specific number, but we did have numerous. i'll say more than five um reports of either individuals hearing shots. on campus that never occurred or reporting a shooting that occurred at a different location. um we immediately do to the resources that we had at hand that were being deployed under a unified incident command structure. we dispatched teams to each of those calls, and they quickly arrived and quickly determine that that the incident, as reported, did not occur at that location. but i can't emphasize enough that even though we were dealing with two different scenes, we continue to utilize our resources. our enforcement

partners to actively, um ensure the safety of the rest of campus at that point. there's any security footage or surveillance footage that development for the incident and will that footage being released in public at some point in the investigation? so we obviously do have surveillance footage because we quickly released one of the images. um that image that we were able to quickly capture and quickly disseminate to the public, and we can't think the community enough for receiving that information. and um yeah, and helping us to, um locate that that suspect so? yes we do have cameras in a lot of buildings on campus. each building has a separate, uh, system in place. but yes, i mean there. there are surveillance cameras that are going to be useful and helpful in this investigation that will aid our investigators in putting the pieces together and

trying to understand. a little bit more about what happened. what happened? one more question. go ahead, man. next 24 48 hours. and what can we expect the university like for students and staff that are still going to be here. you'll still see that continued presence due to the fact that we do have crime scenes that will still be processed with that. there will be the ongoing investigation of communicating with witnesses as well on campus. um there'll be a lot of activity in regards to support for our community, as was mentioned earlier with our counseling services are health services. there will be notifications that were made for where those will actually gather or take place along those lines. um you. we made the announcement that 48 hours it will the operations of the

university will change. it does not mean that our campus will become vacated. we have approximately 19,000 students that reside on campus. um, we will still have things available to meet their needs as well. um. i can't say that it be business as usual because it's not it's not gonna be business as usual. um healing will begin as soon as possible with it. there will be a continued police presence during that time frame as well. but we'll have ongoing communications and to what we're doing and why. we're doing it. so, um, we will definitely be here. and this is this is our campus. it's for our community and for specific purposes. and we'll overcome it. thank you. thank you. i'll close by saying that we will hold another, um, news conference in the morning. we will announce that time once we confirm the time it'll be right here. we'll continue to use

this location and what announced that time together back here in the morning to share additional information. if there's any updates that we can provide. before that, we will continue to provide updates. so i take it you okay? you're listening to interim deputy chief chris rosman of the michigan state university forces. they're they're just wrapping up a news conference, giving reporters the last bit of information about the community of michigan state university, the president there as well talking about a community that is beginning to heal after well, trying to understand the senselessness of senseless violence. the gunman caught on a security camera entering a campus building took his own life at an off campus location when confronted by police, and sadly, he took three innocent lives with him and wounded five other people. um and we're told that