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it will be hot this hour. let's begin a shocking new details and growing health concerns with that fiery derailment of a train carrying now we know more than ever, toxic chemicals in ohio. they gave us a little bit of a piece of it now we know it is much worse, many more chemicals. transportation secretary pete buttigieg finally addressed the crash, but only on twitter. after facing bipartisan criticism for ignoring it. it happened on february 3rd, so 11 days ago in east palestine ohio, about 20 cards with hazardous materials veered off the track and crash. with a massive fire and we are learning today most of those cars were packed dumbing packed with even more toxic chemicals then were originally reported. nearby homes were evacuated after those cancer-causing agents slowly release from the crash site authorities then decided to ignite a controlled burn and that set off massive

plumes of black smoke filled with more dangerous toxins including a colorless gas used as a weapon during world war i. but days later, people who live there were told it was safe to go back to their homes. some now complain of trouble breathing. summer now pleading for federal help and asking for urgent testing. still, transportation secretary pete buttigieg has said very little about any of a. again he had that one tweet. instead, he is making cringing balloon jokes and talking about how construction workers will there are too many white construction workers, watch. >> we have heard way too many stories from generations past of infrastructure where we have a neighborhood come off in a neighborhood of color see the project come to them but every one of the hard hats on that project doing the good paying jobs who don't look like they came from anywhere near the neighborhood.

>> harris: so you live in houston ever matter to you particularly the color of the skin of the person who built it? look. representation is important. we've got stuff blowing up, stop falling out of the skies, stuff flying over, the people of east palestine ohio and folks across the country who were just like them do not live in the sphere. that matters and that is the politically delicious world of intersectionality democrat liberals and the left have repeatedly denigrated people like those living in this chernobyl if you will that is east palestine ohio. calling them deplorable's, bitterly clinging to their guns and bibles, smelly walmart shoppers. i can go down the list of ways

of the left and people quite frankly like buttigieg and people that represent biden and had submits ration even bite himself have shown their disdain that runs deep and wide. but pete buttigieg has really hit a new low here. you have mentioned this was february 3rd. the fact it took ilhan omar going on twitter and shining a light on how embarrassing he is, and really plumbing new depths of heartlessness by ignoring what is a toxic waste site with farm animals dying, thousands of fish dying in creeks, questions about whether the ohio river is now contaminated. and he couldn't pick up his phone and may be record a video

for the people of east palestine ohio? from empathy to antipathy, it is disgraceful. >> harris: look, sean, i said this last hour. this administration has about as many transparency as elmer's glue that has dried. i mean it is opaque. >> sean: first off to dagan's point for your dying animals are dying in the government says that it is safe to go back? you spell a, east palestine only 30% voted for joe biden is it politics at play here? and i thought this a administration of law bob felt done mike to mike above all else yes they care about es gs and race but they care about the environment. this is an environmental disaster. they are nowhere to be found. and we had this in our show the bottom line yesterday, they made the point is it because they

have denigrated pipelines and have tried to push people to go to rail and trucks and we have a real disaster that is a massive disaster and maybe that says let's go back to pipelines? >> harris: everything says hey let's go back to pipelines. the gas prices, our inability to do real deals with people we had been, you know, biden is not popular with open head. everyone says why did you cancel pipeline? so emily, you're living in this part of the country, pennsylvania right next door. the ohio river mentioned by dagan, you have a lot going on right in that area. high dense population there. our food is touched, our food supply is touched by this with the livestock that are there, so much we need to be concerned with not to mention the human life the livelihoods, all of it. not one thing other than a tweet and as dagan pointed i am greedier than that.

i need the president of the united states with buttigieg next to them to talk. >> emily: but that has been lacking from this demonstration the entire time which is true empathy and an understanding of what the american people are going through. and that is been the argument of the midwest and the millions of people who live in it for so long which is that the seasons affect us greatly in this rail line. things matter to us very much so when you scoff at flyover country or when you failed to recognize the import of the railroad safety transporting hazardous chemicals, our voices matter just as much as those in d.c. or on the coast. i have to point out, this calls to mind some of the seminal action cases in law which is catastrophic disasters and instances like this where townspeople were over and over again placated, nothing to see here, you are just fine, don't worry about it because again the power differential is so strong in this country.

less than hazardous is still harmful. less than actionable is still impactful. so when we are hearing fellow americans that say my livestock are being killed, fish are dead, i have sores i am is she i have a sore throat and the lake, that matters just as much as the ep saying well it hasn't gotten to level x, y, z had so there is nothing to see here. there is something to see and it's americans. >> lisa: plus we are talking about what's used in chemical warfare and nothing to see here the water is fine with thousands of fish for miles popping up dead, dead meant animals, people saying they can't breathe their eyes are burning their nauseous i can't help but wonder with the left care more if it was in the ukraine? is that why this has been ignored so long for most of the media? and beyond that i wonder if something bigger at play here? there seems to be too many things going on in the country, talking about multiple flying objects and train derailments

the faa for the first time since 9/11 grounding all planes, the power outages going out on capitol hill, social media went out differently, airports with power outages so i don't know. it just seems to be a lot of things coinciding at the exact same time for it to just be coincidence. >> harris: that's the thing. for anyone who would argue that is conspiracy thinking, talking, when you are so silent with the facts and people are living lives with doubt and pain and death of their livestock, what do you think they're going to do? what do you think they will think? if you won't help them, they are suffering, they will think the various things about who refused to help. >> lisa: how could we not help these people? this is a national emergency. this is a crisis happening in america and how wide is this going to spread? we are not just talking about east palestine, we are talking about who knows how long this will go on. vinyl chloride causes cancer

alone. and you are talking about all these other? >> dagen: the only reason we know about the chemicals -- coat >> sean: these are the forgotten men and women, joe biden standing up and with e state of the union. >> harris: the only reason we know about additional chemicals on that train, there e three additional chemicals that were revealed was a letter from the aba to north folk southern camping out last week and i have a copy of it right here otherwise the people of that town would know nothing. >> harris: it's heartbreaking and unacceptable. coming up, the president still has not addressed the nation about all those objects. our military has been shooting them down and with all the national security concerns the white house is making one thing very clear. et was not involved like we thought he was to fight inflation is to pay off your high-rate debt to lower your monthly payments. at newday we make it easy. our newday 100 loan lets you combine

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>> emily: lots of questions and few answers in the growing don mcgahn controversy in those unidentified objects in our airspace. the first attempt to bring down an object was unsuccessful come on sunday and f-16 fired a sidewinder missile over lake huron and michigan with a $400,000 weapon missed the target. a second sidewinder missile hit. our short time ago our chairman general mark milley come from the first missile landed in the water and is now resting unarmed on the bottom of the lake. meantime the president is set to speak in about an hour from now but it won't be on this. no, he will be giving a keynote address at a conference for county officials across the country. yesterday we learned little from the white house as the press secretary downplayed and dismissed concerns surrounding the matter. >> i just wanted to make sure we address this from the white house. i know there been questions and

concerns about this but there has been no indication of aliens or extraterrestrial activity with these recent takedowns. again, there is no indication of aliens or terrestrial activity with these recent takedowns. wanted to make sure the american people knew that come all of you knew that, and it was important for us to say that from here because we've been hearing a lot about it. [laughter] >> will you tell us? >> i loved et the movie but i would just leave it there. >> emily: the reality is after decades of no infiltration of our airspace in the span of a couple of weeks we have had four and who knows how many we have missed as lawmakers have joined in a clamor for answers in saying we need a president that is showing up and is answering our questions not hiding behind a proxy that is meant to mean et or hiding behind county meetings elsewhere. >> sean: when you want to be a

leader you don't leave during good times only, you have to lead through all times including bad times. and right now, four objects have invaded our space and by the way one of our military jets missed one of these objects with a missile, not a good sign for the rest of the world. joe biden should come and address the country. i think why he is not doing it is the fact that joe biden has been able to live to the american people and the media has covered for them whether it's afghanistan or inflation or the economy. you come and allied to the american people on this one and i don't think the media will go with you so joe biden thinks well i can't lie i might as well hide. >> emily: harris i know you have such an extensive military background personally and professionally a part of the argument here is after china's balloon infiltrated us we adjusted the calibration systems i am using layman's terms here because we sell what has been infiltrating our airspace that we didn't use to see. so now may be an argument is we fine tuned to set different tiles so now we are seeing more.

>> harris: let's hope that's not true. >> emily: it raises the question of how many thousands have we been missing this whole time? >> harris: let's hope that's not true because that means the administer ration lied to us less than two days ago when they said there was a huge gap in being able to track these things. a huge gap technologically that they were going to have to work on. and if they could have fixed that with a flip of a switch and now suddenly we need every not on the back of every flight, that is a problem too because it means we were not important enough t first time. there is so much wrong with even thinking that now suddenly we see more. i think that about certain things, you know, but not things in the air. and kj p with this whole et, how convenient. let's just flip the switch and make up a buddy lab. let's get back to the missiles. congressman stewart of utah told me last hour and it is why would i have been so curious about where the missile is, it's

resting on the floor of lake huron, where exactly is it? why don't you go get it? it's more than being armed. he says there's a tremendous amount of information and technology in those missiles. yeah, where is it exactly? why don't they go retrieve that? we give so much fodder to the enemy just to mess with us and watch and see what we don't do, it's embarrassing. >> emily: the main issue i see, lisa, the heart of all of these questions come all of the concerns that every american has is because of our national security, our security and protection of the sovereign nation that is not politicized, that is something that affects all of us so fundamentally, so what is the problem with the administration answering our questions and assuring us we are safe under their leadership? >> lisa: emily when my younger brother did not want to eat his vegetables who be like mommy look at the trees because he was trying to distract her. are we being distracted with some of this? are we being distracted from the country falling apart or with

reports to u.s. but was potentially behind the nord stream two pipelines not rush a question mark where they have told were not with that are we being distracted right now? what is concerning the most as we have no leadership we are completely void of leadership, we have a president turning his back on americans, six or lloyd aux to austen says we don't know what is being shut down but we are shooting it down anyway and pete buttigieg in crisis saying we have too many white construction workers this is our leadership in america and we wonder why opening is falling apart periods >> dagen: the information vacuum about these flying objects and yakking it up about oh it is ufos or from outer space. it prevents us from talking about the financial hardship that is raining down upon the american people. because of t the biden administration the fact that half of americans say they are worse off financially than a year ago. inflation is really not ebbing

it's holding steady for the most part. the overall recklessness of this administration number one, but number two, this is china. and the $5 trillion in new debt, the $5 trillion in new spending in the last two years, we are a nation of debtors and debt is weakness. and at the same time, we are buying more and more goods from china. our importance went up more than 6% in the last year we are at a record. so we are increasingly leaning on china. and we are paying for this nation's demise. and we are doing nothing about it. >> emily: that is frightening. all right come up next apparently giving away taxpayer dollars with no strings attached has become a trend. the growing push for guaranteed income programs and counties across america, that is next. ♪ barracuda ♪

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moto $1,000 a month. los angeles supervisor holly mitchell are leading a coalition to broaden this program nationwide. sean, i guess what goes through my head is why does any able-bodied american deserve a guaranteed income? without working for it? >> sean: will that's called it job. this is where this could be beautiful if you say i will give everyone a certain lot of money whether it's a thousand dollars a month or something else, i will get rid of all of the guaranteed housing benefits one gets and all the bureaucracy rounded, fire everyone who runs those programs, we could save money but they'll keep all those programs and employees in place and give checks for not working which is a disaster of an idea. >> lisa: but harris isn't this just buying votes for politicians? >> harris: that is a difficult concept to get your mind around. they do that in so many different ways. it could be. what it really is is making

people more dependent on the government. and that is less about the immediacy of the upcoming elections and more about where the country goes from here. we already have a culture that doesn't know how to use his words. in america. our society is canceling the other side because they can't debate. we have crime off the hook we have people committing the types of crimes that are sometimes as a journalist hard to describe. and you don't want to show the pictures. i mean, we are in a space right now where there are a lot of things we need attention for. i don't know a $500 a month will fix it, but what it does do is it just allows a little more control from government either local, municipalities all the way to the top of federal government. so they don't have to solve crime or solve our problems, they will just make us think they are not as great by putting cash in her hands. >> dagen: bernie sanders is flashing in my head right now i think of bernie bros.

buying boats. what this leads us to government dependence. >> emily: which i a bore and it's antithetical which is principle of independence from an overbearing government, right? if you have that fire in that passion within you that you can make of yourself whatever you want to be. i love that you brought up the cost, the cost of running these programs exceed the amount they are doling out for free. when you think of your tax dollars on the state and federal level of $1, how many cents go to means-based grants for scholarships? , to go to public schools which are woefully underperforming? how much of that dollar goes toward the homeless programs of youth programs of all the programs in a city and county that exist at the behest of the government that you pay for and then you are adding on this? so to your point the answer to spending money inefficiently and flagrantly is not spending more money. why don't you cut taxes?

how about that? then every american gets $500. >> that's wild. dagan have we not learned our lesson? we are seeing sky high inflation from government spending. >> dagen: but control is the point. control is the goal. that is power for left-wing liberals. that's why they get into this racket and graft in the first place. and they can't bankrupt this nation fast enough. sean and i talked about this on the show on the bottom line yesterday that the u.s. is starting to allow medicaid money to be spent on food. so when we already have snap, medicaid is already the biggest budget item for most in this country, so how big is it going to get? how financially reckless will the federal government get? will states get? and again the blindness is willful on the part of these democrats in these left-wing

politicians. they always talk about homelessness is is a low housing problem. no, it is a drug addiction and mental illness problem. rather than addressing mental illness and building synchrpsychiatrichospitals whero for long term stays in treatment and addressing it that way, they will talk about how we need to build more housing. how we need to send checks to people, that never solves the problem. >> harris: there is also a hunger problem in this country pair we have a tremendous amount of people who don't eat everyday. let alone three meals a day, they don't get one. and we really saw this exposed at the height of the pandemic, schools were shut down and young little ones didn't eat. we live in a country that has far too much to talk about will we are going to solve everyone's problem by making it more of a controlled society. you are not solving their problems. certainly not the people who need to be fed. >> lisa: that's right point.

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welcome and happy valentine's day. >> roseanne: happy valentines to you too, thank you for having me. >> harris: you have a new special on fox nation called to cancel this, i don't say quite like you, when she tells about. >> roseanne: do you say? cancel this. [laughter] it's kind of my explanation for what happened to me. i never got to have my say or to explain what happened or even to apologize for the mistake i made. to set it straight. that is what i am doing here in my special and also i try to be even more offensive. >> harris: sewer apologizing but then you are bringing it on the other? >> roseanne: i am bringing it because, you know, i felt like i felt on the sword of the double standards of the left because i was the only one who got canceled and when i looked back at the people at abc and the things they have done and not been canceled for doing and are

far more egregious than the mistake i made, which the mistake i made which i say in my special was that i say i racially misgendered a person i assumed to be white. and when the network called me to say what have you done i said i am so sorry, but i assumed this was a white woman i assumed she was a rainy and woman. they ran with it. i guess they saw it because i supported president trump or whatever reasons they saw also an opening to take my show away from me. but the next day it was racist, racist, racist, racist, racist which ruined my life and made it unsafe for me to walk down the street. and they knew exactly -- they knew i made a mistake and yet they didn't allow me to go on any of their other shows and

apologize for it or to explain it. on purpose. i felt like oh, my god, being used, and being used by a political machine which has exposed itself over the inter-seedings of five years since. >> harris: and now you say what to them? >> roseanne: i say you should have allowed me to go on your other news shows particularly those ones hosted by people who have done blackface and you never fired them. you should have let me go on there, joy behar did blackface and he didn't fire her. jimmy kimmel and his girlfriend sarah silverman they had did blackface and you never even like i said it is wrong that you did that and they just let that go. >> sean: do people reach out to your friends and colleagues when you were cancel and talk about injustice or want to reonce youwere cancel did everyn away? >> roseanne: they ran away a

semireferent to call me on the phone which was funny because when i started my comedy career i used to go to hollywood parties and women would come up to me and go i just want to say thank you for what you are saying about women you know because they were so terrified and hollywood to support me for what i did and it was just like that again. they were like [whisper] we want to say we are so sorry and that we know you made a mistake and you are not racist. [regular voice,"] but this a few very, very brave people the most brave being my friend, monique, and other comics. now i can't remember his name but i gave him his first job and he is a huge director not joss whedon but i can't remember. >> it will come due. >> roseanne: the guy who

directed 40-year-old. you know, him. he defendant may too but aside from those four or three people come everybody else was afraid. i don't say anything but they are afraid. everyone is afraid because it is mob mentality which is the other people who were canceled. they didn't lose every thing like i did, but we all made a pact, other comics because we said if we ever come back, let's be even more offensive. [laughter] we have to because we are pro free speech and pro-american values, and if we come back and maybe pam be it we are not fighting. and comedy is supposed to be the thing that laughs you no power to score and especially when it is corrupt. this is why we became comics in the first place to say no we are not going to do that and you know, you are funny. we are saying that to power, you are funny and you are corrupt and here is the jokes it.

that's why we do it. >> harris: you talk about people whispering surreptitiously giving you for it our president whispers a lot i wanted to say. >> harris: mike >> roseanne: he mumbles he doesn't whisper. >> emily: you mentioned a moment ago you mentioned how long it has been since you don't stand up that have been 15 years to stand up in this country what is it like for you to be back in your full glory funnier than ever more offensive than ever and back? >> roseanne: it was me embracing who i am in my politics. which is comedy. because it is the last free speech art form. and it was me going they are not going to have the last word about me and i will have not only the last word but i will have the last laugh too and i believe i did. and i made a joke to level all of their crap, the vaccine, i

have lived there stuff that they think that i can barely contain myself with their stuff, their privilege. i raised privileged children, i didn't grow privileged but my children did because of what i went through. my whole generation and we raised privileged kids who have nothing to do with reality so i kind of break them back down to reality, wait a minute, what are you talking about what is your gender for? get a job! they don't think nothing about reality and they have been bred to do it by, you know, our media and our politicians that are bought and paid for by a lobbyists let's get real i said when i was a comic what let's get real so i got real, real with all of it. forget your privilege just for a minute and look at what is around you and what is in front

of your face. people have lost that ability to look at what is right in front of their face. so i brought it. >> dagen: i won't whisper at you, i will look you in the eye and thank you. thank you for everything you have ever done as a comedian because my role models growing up were you and joan rivers and carol burnett. because it was through humor, watching you do stand up on television, even on "the tonight show." i can remember what you are wearing, your first appearance on "the tonight show." but it was through particularly you and joan rivers it tommy to be fearless talk to me to be fearless. and it taught me the power of humor in every day it's a great

sword and a great shield. it also teaches you of people can't laugh and if people can't left themselves, you better not trust them. >> roseanne: that's right. >> dagen: you better avoid them like they are the bubonic plague. >> roseanne: because they are. >> roseanne: i want to thank you. >> roseanne: you are so sweet, thank you so much for telling me that. >> dagen: you keep doing it and you keep reaching because i have said humor and comedy and stand up and do and all of the comedians out there are the way out of this. they will keep our speech free. >> roseanne: thank you so much and on behalf of all my friends, thank you so much for seeing it and getting it, you have given me and all of them now because they are all going to be watching and hearing this, you have given us strength for that and we need it because there are so many of us out there who can't get jobs that have been

canceled and we are put here because a lot of us feel like god put us here to go against the people that are trying to enslave us and just go bam, bam, bam because as i have learned, you know how they say the pen is mightier than the sword? the joke is mightier than the pen. and the spoken word and the joke, take it all down. all of it needs to be leveled and we need to start over. i am always watching i always love all subject matter. i always love everything to hear women talking together about solving a problem and you, sir, solving a problem in this country for change they can while. >> harris: so, you are back and you are really, really back and we are back after this with more lives end. >> roseanne: thank you. ♪ ♪

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>> lisa: president biden has yet to address the public on the unidentified flying objects, not expected to be on that but we will be listening for comments from the president plus street, karine jean-pierre it said to hold her daily press briefing x acted at 2:30 p.m. eastern time a whole list of issues could come up there we will be listening for that and brand-new health concerns growing over that fire a freight train derailment over the ohio pennsylvania border we will have an update on the developing story come join john roberts and we live as america reports of the top of the hour. ♪ ♪

>> harris: while many of you are looking for love and romance on this valentine's day, new study reveals that recording could be more contrived in the modern age. it says that one in three men plan to use artificial intelligence tools to write their love letters for them this year. it begs the question, is it really the thought that counts? oh, roseanne, this is depressing. >> roseanne: i think it's pretty smart when you think about it because women are so you know they don't trust anything men say anymore. and they are like so angry all the time at men and the world and everything it seems. so it's probably smart they would get artificial intelligence to go speak for them to a woman because they are probably scared to say anything anyhow. i know i have two's sons and they are scared to death to say anything to women because women come up so angry and everything of what he mean by that?

so it's probably good. [laughter] >> harris: sean? >> sean: i had no idea group men are doing this but i am not creative so i can go and say help me? >> harris: you have nine children! if you can't get it right who can? >> sean: but i can tweak it and good job, men, good for you. >> harris: really? >> emily: i feel the opposite, sean peary rachel loves you, not someone else's words that a machine generated that come from you and i feel like that is my phone message, call me old-fashioned but i would rather have something that isn't polished or isn't the best come from the person i love or that loves me them come from a machine generated that sounds like e.e. cummings which by the way this study showed that apparently the machine generated poem that was like e.e. cummings 1952 that it was preferred to e.e. cummings so no, i don't for anything but the originals, i prefer the messy, i prefer the gritty, i prefer the real any day and twice on sunday.

>> sean: we won't tell you that. >> ha>> lisa: emily, they can we a sonnet and don't tell me if your loved one gives you a card that is like hey, honey, happy valentine's day that you would like that versus ai generated, no. >> emily: i would! this from a love one, blows a chat from a bot i want the real authenticity. >> harris: i can't read his handwriting. [laughter] no matter what he writes. >> emily: thank you for my valentine. >> harris: you're welcome. more "outnumber" in a moment, don't go away. ♪ ♪

>> it's been so much fun having roseanne on the couch with us today. don't forget to check out her comedy special "cancel this," streaming on fox nation. roseanne, what's something you can share with the audience they may not see in the comedy special. >> a long time since i had written comedy, you know, stand-up, the jokes and i was rusty but once it started going, like specifically one month before i started performing it in houston, january 6th, i started writing about a half hour of jokes every single day, so ended up at the end with four hours of jokes and i heard rihanna talk about her set list, how hard it was to make, that

was hard for me to take those four hours and make an hour out of it. now i'm looking forward to doing more specials, every time i turn around everything is so absurd and ridiculous, i started writing more and more and more and it was like being reborn. >> oh, i love that. >> we are so excited for you, we are so excited for the extra three hours of content to come after this special right now that you can all watch on fox nation. roseanne barr, you are a delight and inspiration. >> you are so sweet. thank you so much. >> here is "america reports." >> sandra: thank you, ladies. president biden tells the american people the economy is in great shape, but the numbers tell a different story. a brand-new inflation report just out shows prices climbing nearly 6.5% compared to last year. that is a higher number than expected. >> john: republicans took ba