patterns of reduced genetic diversity and decreased connectivity in neighborhoods with fewer white residents. panel, what do we think? >> i would love to have bambi out of my neighborhood, eating all of my shrubs and flowers. >> i like bambi. beautiful. >> thanks for watching, here is "america reports." >> sandra: thank you so much for the second time in as many days, senators meeting with military leaders for a classified briefing, learning more about china's military capabilities, day after the update on the flying objects shot out of the sky. >> john: some critics questioning if the biden administration moved too quickly to take down the three objects last weekend, after acting far too slowly on the original chinese spycraft. tom tillis will join us.

>> since then i have the chemical burns and reaction rash on my face. >> i could smell the chemicals and like, it's obvious something is not right. >> before two days ago you could not stand here without getting a headache. >> it's travelling to inside the ground, it's a very rural area where this happened, these people have farms and livestock and it's going into the waterways. >> sandra: begin "america reports" with that train derailment up ending people's lives in a small ohio town where there are lingering safety questions at this hour. almost two weeks after the disaster. hello, welcome, i'm sandra smith in new york. hi. >> john: happy wednesday to you, john roberts in washington. people in east palestine, ohio hoping to get some answers during a town hall meeting, after a train went off the tracks 12 days ago carrying hazardous chemicals. a toxic fire spent plumes of

toxic smoke for days. >> sandra: some residents are worried about water and air quality. people getting sick, fish are dying, and evacuation ordered after the derailment has now been lifted but some question whether that happened too soon. >> john: jenna lives near the site of the derailment, she will talk about her experience in a moment. but first garrett is in east palestine, ohio, also a lot of concern about the plume of pollution from the derailment that's now moving down the ohio river. what more do we know about that? >> yeah, john, we know these chemicals have killed more than 3500 fish so far and that a cloud of these toxins are now in the ohio river, which provides drinking water to millions of americans across several states. so, this is something officials are keeping an eye on. at last check, this plume was near huntington, west virginia, moving slowly downriver, one

mile per hour. several water plants have set up contingencies in case the water from the river is too toxic for them to filter and make safe. but the head of ohio's water division says the further downstream this plume goes, the less of a concern it will be. >> we haven't seen a risk even at the most closest points to east palestine, so we would not envision anything from this point forward impacting any of the further drinking water supply. >> here in east palestine while folks are told there are no concerns about their health and safety, officials are suggesting they only drink bottled water until officials are sure the tap water is safe. that is not inspiring a lot of confidence in those who have already been frustrated with the lack of clear answers that they are getting. >> to be honest with you, i do not feel anywhere in the town is safe. >> we are not safe. tell us the truth. >> absolutely, i will not live

in this town. i will be moving. >> a lot of folks hoping to get answers at the town hall meeting tonight, which has changed format and will now be booths set up around the gym because the city says there will be too many people coming to do traditional q & a session. those that will be in attendance include the e.p.a., the city officials, and we are told that norfolk southern railways has been invited to attend but so far has not responded to the city. >> john: when say booths, like a trade show set-up? >> yeah, essentially, that's what we are being told. >> john: all right, thank you. sandra. >> sandra: jenna is joining us, she lives 12 miles from where it happened and is forced to take matters into her own hands. what steps have you taken now? >> yeah, i mean, i felt really called that we did not have

resources, information, specifically when it started just for the immediately impacted, so one of my really good friends and i, we started a facebook group to just really put together resources that were available for the impacted that were evacuated, but then it seemed to like as, seemed to turn quickly and by turn quickly i mean it was just a few days before these residents were brought back into their homes. i think we realized like our air smelled weird, and i'm 12 miles away. she's 20 miles away, we could smell it here, and we knew there was more to this story as we watched this plume, you know, fly over our towns. >> sandra: just so difficult for all of you. we can only imagine. we had a resident of the town on the program yesterday he said he's been getting headaches from the fumes, still is. he was standing near a waterway where he said he saw with his

own eyes fish were dying, still are. what sort of things like that are you and your friends that you've been joining together with on facebook, what are you experiencing? >> yeah, i mean, we have seen anywhere from chemically induced like pneumonia, we have chickens, foxes, fish, cats, like dying, they were all near, like near the area but not necessarily in the evacuated area. we have had a lot of parts of the community come together to help get some of those larger animals outside like outside of the area, but i don't think anybody knows what's far enough away from this area. i mean, when you watch people that are investigating they all have these giant hazmat suits on, but somehow it's safe for people to go back to these homes. they only evacuated a mile outish, anybody outside of that, you are kind of on your own if

you want to leave, you can leave. if you want to drink bottled water, go for it, buy it, but it's all on our own dime and this is caused by a company who makes billions of dollars and we are forgotten about. it just -- they really have an opportunity to change the trajectory of this story and it seems that they don't want to step up or take ownership. >> sandra: and that lack of accountability is why there's a lot of pressure on our transportation secretary, pete buttigieg, who was really late to even speak out about what was happening there or take any steps to help the folks on the ground there. in fact, this was earlier this week when he was asked about it all and he seemed to even joke about the matter. listen. >> we faced issues from container shipping, to airline cancellations, now we have balloons. >> that's right. [laughter] >> but, also the best time ever

to be working transportation because of these resources and we know ultimately it's in the hands of those who are on the ground. >> sandra: so that was the transportation secretary days ago but the e.p.a. administrator did come on our air earlier this morning on "america's newsroom" defending the federal response to what you are experiencing on the ground there. >> the president has called the governor directly and offered all of our resources. we have been on the ground since day one offering all of our resources, and we will commit we will communicate effectively, communicate the results we >> sandra: could i get your response to that administration official, jenna? >> i mean, that would be something to laugh about. while there is some support, i feel like it's mostly locally driven. like i said, a couple local organizations putting out places for people to stay to get

resources, providing activities for those impacted, but ultimately these people are losing their homes like -- not everybody has an option to just leave. >> sandra: i know you are a mom, a family, kids to take care of. how are you doing? it's obviously just really tough. >> it is tough and it's really tough to watch these news and like articles and stories because it's really sad and it's sad that it's taken this long for it to gain national attention that it needs, and the more that i've become involved, become like a part-time job for me managing this facebook group because these people want answers, they want resources. i don't know that water is safe for our kids to drink. i mean, we can say that maybe the air is safe now, but like just how much of our lives are going to be impacted and how much are they going to be continued to impact like our lives because of, i mean,

whatever this is going to cause from a health perspective, agricultural perspective, our small businesses, property values, we have to front the bill for this stuff in a very inflated economy already who has money to just blow on a bunch of bottled water and you are also like i don't buy bottled water until now because it's just environmentally not a place i want to be. i try to do my part, not a big part, but try and do my part and so i'm just, you know, causing another problem by trying to solve another one. >> sandra: we are thinking about you and praying for your family and all those affected on the ground there, jenna, and all you are asking for is transparency and leadership to get you through this and all the folks on the ground there. thank you very much, jenna. our best to you. we will continue to follow your story. thank you. >> thank you. >> john: another dangerous situation developing on the other side of the country following a nitric acid spill on

a highway in arizona. a truck carrying the highly corrosive chemical overturned on interstate 10 in tucson. you can see the rust colored smoke there, that's the nitric oxide evaporating. the truck driver died, no one else was hurt in the incident. officials issued evacuation and shelter-in-place orders last night, telling residents to turn off heaters and air-conditioning systems that bring in outside air. interstate 10 still remains closed at this hour. >> sandra: ok. so we are going to continue watching that, another breaking news afternoon. more on that and more. >> john: including the unrelating surge of migrants at the southern border. creating a notable shift in american's attitudes on immigration. poll finding more americans of all political stripes now say they want to see fewer immigrants allowed into the united states. meantime, more dangerous scenes

on the border as fox news is embedded on a high speed pursuit, ending with the arrest of 15-year-old smuggler. griff jenkins is in mission, texas. >> we are learning more about exactly how the cartels operate and a quick warning, we have a graphic image what happens when you don't pay the cartels. let me show you the high speed chase, exceeded miles of 100 miles per hour and ended on this dirt road. the migrants baling and the driver here was a 15-year-old teen smuggler from mexico. he was getting paid $400 per migrant for smuggling them. the cartels use teens, because there are few consequences for them but fox has learned, john, this individual is in the hidalgo county detention center, and will be prosecuted, and one

man was from guatemala, willing to tell us on camera how much he had to pay the cartel. listen here. >> we paid like $7,000 in mexico, and when we crossed the river, we need to pay another half, 7,000 more. so $14,000 total. >> what happens if you don't pay the cartel? this migrant claims he refused to pay and they attacked him with a machete. fortunately for him, border patrol agents were able to save his life. and important note about our coverage, it's not just humans as well, there are drugs. just yesterday, the border patrol chief saying there were 24 pounds of fentanyl seized, not at the port of entry, but between the ports of entry outside of nogales, arizona in a remote area. that's some of the information that house members will learn on the energy and commerce

committee. they are holding their first field hearing here in the rgb later tonight. john. >> john: a lot of fentanyl coming through the ports of entry, but also coming in between the ports of entry as well. griff jenkins for us, some very compelling pictures, thank you. >> excellent reporting on all of that as usual. remember the flightmares at the airports during the holidays? what went wrong and if he thinks it could happen again. >> john: still no word from president biden on the mysterious objects shot down by the u.s. military after waiting what some day was too long to take down the chinese spycraft, did biden overreact to the latest unknown objects? senator tom tillis will weigh in just ahead. >> when you don't provide information and there's a dirth of information, it did lead to wild speculation, it can lead to unfounded fears. homeowners:

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right now. the chiefs are back in town and holding a parade. it's happening now, started about 20 minutes ago. they are celebrating obviously their big super bowl win, huge crowds greeting them there as they roll through the center of downtown heading for union station where they will end up with a big victory speech there over the philadelphia eagles. john, this is quite a scene to take in there. we have been trying to catch a glimpse of mahomes on the busses and floats, but it's hard to pinpoint any one particular player, but they are in sul celebration mode there. >> john: looks like they are having fun, as long as nobody tries to throw the lombardi trophy from one truck to another they'll be already. >> sandra: seems like yesterday, and any look for andy reid, travis kelce, and the mascot, boogying down there. we'll keep our eye on that.

>> john: what a game, too. the white house pressed for answers over the airborne objects shot down. they identified they may have had a benign purpose different from the chinese spycraft that crisscrossed the country two weeks ago. members of congress have been briefed on all of this yesterday and again today. let's bring in north carolina republican senator tom tillis, he was briefed a little while ago. thank you for being with us. what questions did you go into the briefing with and were they answered? >> what we really wanted to understand is the different decision about when to engage and take down the objects, which i think in every case was the right decision. we are not gonna know much about the three that occurred after the chinese balloon was taken down because they are in very difficult places to retrieve the information but we got a very good report on what we are getting off the carolina coast for the first one, which clearly

had a malign purpose. >> john: let me ask you about that. the pentagon is now saying that it has known about the chinese spy balloon project for a long time, and in fact briefed members of congress about it last august. were you ever briefed? >> i was not briefed, i would have expected to -- i'm not aware of any senate armed services hearing or classified briefing on it. but one thing is important to understand, it was only -- it was in the last year, year and a half to where we understood the radio signature for this particular type of object and then you are able to go back in history and identify the overflights. some democrats were talking about well this happened in the trump administration, we simply did not have the situational awareness at the time, now we do. and i think you are going to see a very different approach to the near -- the near space area above about 55, 60,000 feet and a lot more eyes on it, make it

less likely anything would escape detection. >> john: so in terms of escaping detection, senator kennedy, your colleague was on this morning and told me in yesterday's briefing he learned the pentagon or intelligence at least was watching this balloon from before it was launched, when it was launched, all the way across the pacific ocean, came toward the united states and he believes unless somebody had spotted it and reported it, the intelligence community likely wouldn't have said boo about it and might not have even told the president. do you share his thoughts? >> i'm not really sure. he's right on the fact that we were aware of the track of the balloon and i agree with that. i think that a part of what we were trying to do is better understand this future threat and a part of what you want to do is gather intelligence on exactly what it's doing, tracking when it goes off line, which reports have indicated that it would -- it did go off

line shortly after it entered continental u.s. air space, but i think -- i think there is something to be said for getting ahead of the curve for informing people like me in the u.s. senate on emerging threats. may have created a dialogue to where we got identification sooner, would have known about the other objects and reoriented our radars and detection systems earlier than that. >> john: in terms of knowing about its presence, i mean, this was not a holy cow, there's a balloon above montana, they watched this thing across the pacific ocean. that's a long way and yet did not take action against it. does that puzzle you? >> i think it's fair. the majority of the water that the balloon crossed was not in u.s. territory. once it gets into u.s. territory, you need to look at the geography, if you are going to shoot it down. the intelligence value of the balloon that's just a few miles off the coast of the carolinas

is going to be enormously valuable, and my guess is, if it had gotten into international air space, then the chinese government probably would have demolished it to prevent the intelligence gathering that we have today. you've seen the public reports about it appears to be u.s. or english sourced equipment that was on board, reverse engineering, what that technology has in store the majority of the debris in the atlantic is going to be captured, in about 50 feet depth of water. enormous intelligence value ahead. we can debate whether it should have been taken down sooner but we are where we are, and significant information to harvest from the recovery effort in the atlantic. >> john: let me ask you quickly, a couple seconds left. you seem to be suggesting the biden administration handled this the right way in terms of what you could yield from the spycraft. >> well, i'm glad you raised that. i don't think the biden administration has done very well on broader issue of transparency, but the fact of

the matter is, it would have been helpful for us not to learn about it because somebody in montana had the wherewithal to actually identify it. this is something that should have come before congress, we should have been briefed on the threat when it was emerging rather than having it come out at this point. it does raise a valid question. if there hadn't been pressure on the president to take action, maybe he would have taken it down in u.s. waters and that's why i think the administration needs to improve its f grade on transparency across the board. >> john: you get bipartisan agreement on that point as well. senator tom tillis, north carolina, good to catch up with you. >> yeah, and go chiefs. >> john: they went, they went already. thank you. >> we love our kids, we never go to the neighborhood and take people out. [yelling]

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people. man, you don't know a damn thing about black people. we are human, we want our kids to go to good schools. we love our kids. we would never go in no neighborhoods and take people out. [yelling] >> as the chaos broke out, they rushed him outside the courtroom. payton gendron is sentenced to life in prison without a chance of parole, crimes, domestic terrorism motivated by hate and ten counts of first-degree murder. they say he planned the attack for weeks and targeted those innocent victims because of their skin color. these are those innocent people who lost their lives gunned down, john, while just grocery shopping. nine months later, he apologized to the families in court. >> i did a terrible thing that day, i shot and killed people

because they were black. looking back now i can't believe i actually did it. i believed what i read online and acted out of hate. now i can't take it back but i wish i could. and i don't want anyone to be inspired by me and what i did. >> right after that, john, you could hear some family members in the back yelling you don't mean it and they were taken out of the courtroom, too. gendron faces more than 20 federal charges. he still could face the death penalty. >> sandra: the prosecution close to wrapping its case in the alec murdaugh double murder trial, they are in recess after playing an interview with him in 2021, 2 months after he shot and killed his wife and son. if the prosecution rests today, murdaugh's defense team could

begin as soon as tomorrow. joining us with the latest, phil, top line thoughts on what we have seen and heard in that courtroom today. what are you learning? >> good afternoon, sandra, great to be back with you. i think the prosecutor has painted a very, very devastated picture of guilt against the defendant, alec murdaugh, in this case. so the defense certainly has its work cut for it if it's going to create reasonable doubt, they have i think two things they need to focus on, at least two things going into the defense case. the one, sandra, they need to see if they can rehabilitate the alibi, as we recall, state's witnesses have come forward and said look, we hear alec murdaugh's voice on the video, places him at the scene just moments before the fatal shots were fired. that was devastating, so maybe they can put the defendant on the stand to say hey, i didn't do it, i wasn't there, and maybe explain that. or maybe in the alternative, or in addition to that, they can have witnesses who might say i

hear those voices, i know the defendant and i don't believe it to be his voice. might could bring other witnesses to sort of put it another way to give the jury perhaps some reasonable doubt. the other thing they need today, they have to try to neutralize this evidence of all these other crimes that he's said to have committed. the defense is going to remind the jury those are charges for another day, another jury, another courtroom, in another case, and that they need to decide this case on its own merits because quite frankly i've had a problem with this. i don't understand how the evidence of all these other crimes paints a line in terms of motive to this particular crime. and if the defense can further put the leaves on that tree, so to speak, they might be able to get some residual doubt that will spill over and reasonable doubt in the minds of at least one jury. >> maggie murdaugh's sister, so

his wife's sister, his sister-in-law, this was a really interesting moment when she noted that it was odd that they never discussed between them the person who is actually, or who could have actually committed the murders. listen to this. >> we never talked about it. we never talked about finding the person who could have done it. it was just odd. >> sandra: naturally one would assume that your wife and son are murdered you might want to discuss possibly with other family who this could have been. what does that mean in the courtroom? >> that's a good question. i don't know exactly what it means. we have heard that witness her opinion what it might mean. her opinion it was odd. we have not heard alec murdaugh discuss what he may have meant and if he testifies, maybe he'll

let the jury know what he meant by that. but this is the kind of evidence that really wonder if the prosecutor maybe is overtrying their case, i don't know if i would have put that in because we don't really know what that means and you are going to ask a jury to basically extrapolate from that and to speculate as to what it might mean. it was interesting but i don't think on balance it moves the needle that much personally. >> sandra: everyday conversation you hear that to be the case, you think it's pretty darn odd but things can be different in the courtroom with a jury. thank you very much for joining us on that, phil. thank you. >> you bet, any time. >> john: president biden's nominee to lead the irs as the service faces growing backlash for its plan to crack down on the tips that servers receive. a glaring disconnect from what president biden campaigned on. larry kudlow as you can imagine is fired up about this. he'll join us coming up live. >> sandra: plus the acting head

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ripley's believe it or not, instead of chocolate, it was filled with sand used to keep the box steady during filming, they didn't get any chocolates. >> sandra: i have so many questions about that. do movie sets every single movie prop? i mean, a cardboard box that did not even have the chocolates in it? i don't know, was it the box? >> john: i think they keep a lot of props, most of them. but clearly if you are going to keep a sand-filled box, they are keeping more stuff. >> sandra: i guess we'll see it at ripley's, with or without the stand. perfect. he landed it. acting head of the faa facing some pointed questions in the recent glitch of a computer system that forced the first nationwide ground stop since 9/11. it left many air travelers uneasy about booking their next flights. connell mcshane from fox business, answers in the hearings?

>> one thing made clear, sandra, it's going to take some time, take time for the alert system at the faa to be updated. billy nolan is the acting administrator at the faa, they pressed him on what is known as the notice at that air missions alert system that pilots have to read before they take off. they have to read alerts. it's an old system and nolan says the needed updates to it will not happen overnight. >> the bulk of the work will be done by fy25. i like to see if we can bring that forward and there are some other pieces that work into that. >> the nationwide ground stop that was alluded to in early january, that's been blamed, you know, blamed on an outside contractor, not faa employee so that led to questions like this. >> since the issue was caused by contractors accidentally deleting critical code, does the faa plan to restrict access to

the notam system moving forward to faa employees. >> no, ma'am, we do not. it's overseen by the faa and maintained by contractors. these folks are indeed the experts there. >> no real movement there. in addition to that, you know, the outage and the ground stop, high profile and near misses on runways around the country, including when the fedex cargo plane nearly landed on top of the southwest passenger jet in austin, texas not long ago, a video simulation was shown at the hearing and nolan talked about low visibility in austin that day, but he said the system worked in that disaster was averted, just barely averted. >> sandra: not let it get to that point. >> he's acting administrator the biden pick to be head of the faa has not had a hearing yet. but, still a lot of unanswered questions about the system. they need to get some updates in place. >> sandra: good job landing that for us, connell.

>> i see what you did. >> john: we landed two in a row, ok. here we go. showdown here in the nation's capital as the national parks service moves to clear out a homeless camp in mcpherson square. why some people are calling the evictions out of bounds despite health and safety concerns. >> today our enemies think the american era has passed. they're wrong. america is not past our prime, it's just that our politicians are past theirs. >> sandra: that was nikki haley calling for a new generation to lead the way as she officially kicks off her campaign for president. katie pavlich standing by with reaction. hi, katie. on everything with just one card. chase freedom unlimited. so, if you're off the racking... ...or crab cracking, you're cashbacking. cashback on flapjacks, baby backs, or tacos at the taco shack. nah, i'm working on my six pack.

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tests for people over the age of 75, that would include former president trump, current president biden if they were to win again. she's trying to draw distinction between her at the age of 51 and everyone else. >> and something maybe most americans with agree with, that older politicians should be subject to intellectual tests how they can fulfill their duties, it's something they will see on the campaign trail but she is trying to distinguish herself. her theme, it's time to move on with a new generation of people, of leadership. she fits that category in terms of her age, and her experience. she's also trying to frame herself as a d.c. outsider, she's a two-term governor, despite her time at the u.n. as the ambassador, and trying to frame herself as someone who can beat joe biden, and the d.n.c. is calling her an extreme maga

republican, seems they will paint anybody who jumps into the gop primary with that brush. but also interesting that caught my attention she talked about republicans wanting to win the popular vote, they have lost that vote many times in a row now. she's trying to appeal to a broader base of voters, not just to republican primary voters. and in terms of her experience, she obviously talked about the things she did as governor in south carolina, but the woman who opened up the rally today was cindy wormber, otto's mother, he was killed by the north koreans and sent back in a vegetative state. the fact she is endorsing her and opened up her announcement for president how she's trying to use her experience on the global stage combined with her time as a governor. >> john: and talked tough about china, too. like the soviet union, communist china is going to end up on the ash heap of history. >> described china as the biggest threat we have ever had, and she dedicated a lot of time to it in her speech, something

that you have not heard this current white house do. >> john: we need to get the over and under. president trump, 42.8%, republican primary race, desantis 30, pence 7.5, haley at just about 4, double what she was a little while ago. so she's moving up. >> look, she is the only other candidate in the republican primary with former president donald trump. we will now see how they go after each other when it comes to his style of going after people who are challenging him for this position in an official capacity. >> john: may i? nikki haley is just another career politician, started out as a never trumper before resigning to serve in the trump administration, looks like more of the same, career politician, only fulfilled commitment is to herself. that from the trump campaign. >> they have been anticipating the announcement today, nikki haley did not go after president trump in the same type of way,

despite age and moving on with the next generation, see how she approaches responding to the attacks. desantis, the governor of florida, many people think will get into the race has tried to ignore the attacks from the trump campaign. donald trump has a significant lock on the primary voters in the republican party and a lot of ground nikki haley or other candidates will have to cover in order to beat him in the race. i think we will see at least half a dozen other people get into the race to challenge president trump and president biden. >> rick scott, tim scott, mike pompeo, former secretary of state also worked for the trump administration. >> john: might not be 15 like in 2016. >> you never know, you never know. we'll see. it's early, and interesting to see a one-on-one race and for haley to step up, she should not

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