>> it isn't cheap but i think what is starting to happen is people are looking at the farmers dog and what we do and how we do it and not asking why is it not cheap, they are asking why is the other food so cheap? how is it possible to get food that cheap? >> dana: you wouldn't feed it for yourself or your children. >> you might choose to start a company like we did. >> dana: congratulations to farmers dog and on the commercial as well. harris faulkner with "the faulkner focus" is up next. >> harris: we begin with a fox news alert. they came from ohio and the neighboring state of pennsylvania where that plume of toxins on the left side of your screen has crept through the air across state lines. hundreds of people frightened, some of them getting sick now. desperate for answers showed up last night at the highly advertised informational open house in east palestine, ohio where the train jumped the

tracks and crashed and fire from it burned for days, releasing those killer chemicals into the air. norfolk southern train corporation and the transportation secretary pete buttigieg failed to show up. the city's mayor says buttigieg is missing in action. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." new problems we're hearing from people that we've been interviewing in "focus." they waited too long to evacuate people and let them go home too quickly knowing how bad it was. now thousands of people are living in fear. i mean even the governor says he is going to drink bottled water. problems are building. people are having trouble breathing. their pets are dying. thousands of dead fish in the local streams. still transportation secretary pete buttigieg seems to have lost his ability to speak on this disaster. the community wants to know

where is pete? emotions running high at the so-called informational open house. >> they're telling us that everything is fine. we're seeing other things that are completely contradictory. how are we supposed to trust you? >> there are police everywhere here. why can't we get answers from them? [applause] >> harris: yeah. norfolk southern officials said they skipped the town hall out of fear for their safety. the mayor finds that hard to explain. >> i understand, sir. i am just as frustrated as you are.

>> harris: lucas tomlinson is in east palestine, ohio, lucas. >> we've learned from ohio governor mike dewine's office the governor spoke to white house officials this morning to request federal aid. at this time, fema says ohio is not eligible at this time for some of that aid. others will see. behind me is the high school, the scene of that contentious hearing last night. all is calm now. a much different story last night as our viewers just heard. many residents demanding where was norfolk southern and where is buttigieg. >> i am shocked they weren't there last night although we've been told the reason that norfolk southern representatives weren't there is they had been threatened with bodily harm and worried for their safety. but as far as the secretary of transportation, i certainly would like to see more from him.

we need help. >> the ntsb is now investigating the massive train derailment two weeks ago focusing on this video showing sparks flying off the wheels of that eastbound norfolk southern freight train 20 miles before the derailment sending toxic chemicals in the air in this small many community. the governor said the tap water is safe to drink but recommended residents keep drinking bottled water. >> it is clear that water certainly can be consumed by residents. i know people have been concerned about that. we advise people until we got the testing back we advised them don't drink the water. use bottled water. >> president biden's epa chief is due in town around 12:30. right now he appears to be the face of the federal response.

many residents are asking him to drink that tap water. >> harris: i hope somebody gets that on camera. good to see you. thank you. minutes from now i'll be joined by a pennsylvania man, i told you this has seeped into the next state. he lives about a mile and a half from the toxic derailment zone where the plume was and has spread. he was at last night's meeting and is livid the train company were no shows. when the united states military shot down the mystery objects last weekend president biden apparently lost his voice. we know he can speak just not about this issue. americans in the dark for nine full days and counting. a new op-ed says his silence is no joke. quote, someone better level soon about the shoot downs, at the moment silent joe biden is melting down the government's credibility with the american people to about 0. that is dangerous.

republican outrage growing. >> we should have been briefed on the threat when it was emerging rather than having to come out at this point. it does raise a valid question, though. if there hadn't been pressure on the president to take action, maybe he wouldn't have taken that down in u.s. waters. and that's why i think this administration needs to improve its upgrade on transparency across the board. >> harris: yesterday we reported vice president kamala harris says she doesn't believe the spy flight will increase u.s. tensions with china. senator rick scott is appalled by that. this statement reads this way. communist china is our enemy and wants to destroy our way of life. if kamala harris doesn't understand that, she should resign. republican senator marsha blackburn of the great state of tennessee is in "focus" now. these are such serious issues. we need to hear from the top people. why aren't they talking?

>> it is astounding that they have had nothing to say, harris. indeed, the president should give an oval office address to the people of this country and tell everyone what they know. we have had our briefings, our classified briefings, but they are not satisfactory and what we're hearing is things that we say the american people need to hear this. you need to speak up. they need to know about the chinese spy balloon. they need to know how many balloons have been spotted coming over this country in the last five years. they need to answer the question of why it took a reporter in montana putting it on the newspaper website for the administration to have anything to say. and these other items that were shot down last week, why did they choose to shoot them down and what do they know about them and what have either we or the

canadians been able to gather from wreckage? >> harris: all great questions. when you said moments ago the senate hearings have not been satisfactory i will take it that none of those questions were even approached. >> you are correct. we did not get answers on any of those questions. and the fact that this balloon hovered in montana and then did a little sachet across the country in defiance of our sovereign airspace and then going out over the atlantic ocean. why is it they said we chose to wait until it got out to the atlantic? did they know it was going to the atlantic, not to the gulf or the pacific? we have so many questions and it is imperative the president find his voice and get some facts and start talking to the american people. >> harris: earlier this week white house press secretary cran stumbled quite a bit when asked

about one of the recent takedowns. watch this. >> the question why is the american military shooting something out of the sky over canada? >> it's part of norad. the norad is part of -- part of a -- it's a -- what you call a coalition. a pact, exactly. that's why we were able to do that. we didn't do it on our own but in -- clearly in step with canada. >> harris: no, really. that's the white house. >> you know, it is just so insulting to the american people who are watching this. they have know the chinese communist party is our greatest threat. you look at what they are doing, what they did with covid and what they are doing with fentanyl. joe biden ought to go tell them stop producing fentanyl today. it is killing our people. >> harris: amen. >> stop it. he doesn't do it.

you look at what they are doing with the spy balloons and what they are doing with tiktok and how they are surveilling our people and our children. you look at what is happening to our kids. fentanyl is the largest killer of kids 18 to 45 years old. >> harris: let's get into it definitely. texas sheriff shared and incredible detail at a congressional hearing yesterday. he told lawmakers nearly 2,000 drones used by mexican drug cartels are here swarming the united states skies. that's interesting since they've been shooting stuff down. we're seeing a shift now politically with growing bipartisan calls to tackle the flood of fentanyl that senator blackburn is detailing now. it is coming across our southern border. the border is open. we all know it. gaps as wide as miles. leadership with the national drug control policy center say it is the worst drug crisis

we've ever seen. lawmakers at a hearing with this reaction. >> i have to be honest with you. try to get them to act is not -- there has to be other considerations. i just think we work with our mexican friends with kid gloves on this issue. >> i don't know how many more lives have to be lost for mexico to get engaged. >> fentanyl, as we all agree, robs children of parents and parents of children. they rob communities of our friends, co-workers and neighborhoods. the mexican cartels have taken advantage of the weak border enforcement. >> harris: you have been there a& on the issue on the hill. >> i have legislation right now that would stop the drug and sex traffickers from getting federal benefits after being arrested. what we learned from many of these law enforcement officers and border patrol is people live in government housing. they get welfare benefits and

then their side hustle is trafficking in drugs and people. so when they are arrested, it would stop their benefits immediately. they could not live in government housing. they couldn't get welfare or unemployment benefits. it would all stop immediately. we have to do that to send the message we won't let them do this because 70,000 americans lost their lives to fentanyl poisoning last year. as i said, number one killer of 18 to 45-year-olds. and then you have children, babies that are dying from fentanyl poisoning. fox news has an article up about it right now. harris, the fact that these cartels are getting rich. they are getting rich off of what they are doing to the american people and to the people that are coming here illegally. they are buying the lie. this administration has to secure the border and you

mentioned the drones. when i was down at del rio sector they were talking about the cartel has better technology than local law enforcement and the border patrol and they are surveilling them all across the border. all of these border towns they are surveilling and finding back ways to get these criminal illegal aliens into the country. these drug traffickers, chinese entering the country up 700%. and they are probably here to surveilling and spy. >> harris: that's where it is coming from, from china, north of 95% of fentanyl as we know. senator blackburn, when you come back the next time let's get into that legislation and see where it goes. i don't think many of us know the dollar amounts that are being spent. i really want to get into it. by the way, the original crime was coming here illegally.

can't we act on that, too? the president is still spitting out those false claims on republicans and them wanting to go after social security. he also blames republicans over a dire new warning about our nation's debt. larry kudlow has quite a different take. >> this is bidenomics. spend it, tax it, regulate it. cbo thinks inflation will stay down in ten years. i would suggest to them, think again with this kind of spending and borrowing. >> harris: and it will get worse. the spending, borrowing set to add nearly $19 trillion to the tab in the next decade. fox business's david asman in "focus" next. get ready for a shock. the rate on credit cards is now over 22%. if you want to save hundreds of dollars every month, pay off the balances on your high-rate cards with a lower rate va home loan from newday usa

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>> the debt trajectory is unsustainable and servicing this debt. it doesn't get better after 2053, we'll put it that way. >> harris: he is the director of congressional budget office and what he is predicting. unless the white house and republicans can cut a deal together america will run out of money to pay the interest on the debt in july. the big headline most media are not reporting, if democrats wild spending continues at the wild clip it is, it will add $$19 trillion to the national debt over the next decade. $3 trillion more than the latest estimate. but it's our money, they don't care. the u.s. went past the debt ceiling in january and the treasury department has been using what it calls extraordinary measures to keep our bills paid. the "wall street journal"

editorial board calling it president biden's federal budget blow-out. the new cbo forecast fiscal hol dug. the president with a familiar deflection dance. >> president biden: let's be crystal clear about what is happening. if you add up the proposals of my republican friends have offered so far what they've offered. it would add more than $3 trillion to the debt over ten years. if republicans try to take away people's healthcare, increased cost for middle class families will push america into poverty. i'm going to stop him. >> harris: he calls them his republican friends. in "focus" fox business anchor david asman. he says republicans will come up with $3 trillion with more debt. he is coming up with $19 million more. liberal media don't talk about it. >> he is selling big government and government bureaucrats control the economy better than

the private sector and has increased the role of government in our economy by 20% since he has been here. 20%. it will take a lot to turn it around. the house, the republican house will be able to stop a lot of the spending measures but through regulation he can increase the role of the government in the economy. by the way, the government now, the federal government now controls about 25% of the economy from 21% when trump was in office. if you include local and state governments in that figure it is over 50% in places like new york and california and illinois that have high taxes. over 50% of the economy controlled by the government equals socialism. that's what the president is telling us will be better for america. most americans don't believe it. even though the hard propaganda press is on. you mentioned karine jean-pierre. she said the president has transformed the way americans think about the economy.

really? do americans think the economy is better now than it was. do they think stagflation is a good thing? >> harris: look at the poll numbers. >> they don't show that at all. the converse is true as well. they say that 6% growth rate and a 1.4% inflation rate we had when he came to office say it is a bad economy. >> harris: i'm glad you ended on that note. i will pick up from that. the white house wants us to believe that these latest january inflation numbers are so much like candy and they are so not. a new op-ed argues biden inflation is not going away. inflation is still high and barely moving downward. last month the inflation rate is not like the unemployment rate. just because it goes down .1 percent doesn't mean prices are coming back down. it only means prices are rising slower than before but still rising. grocery prices, let's talk food

for a minute. up overall 11% from last year. eggs up 70%. there was some avian flu. flu season overall coming to an end. prices are sky high. we have to skip breakfast at this point. other kitchen staples, butter, flour, lettuce all more expensive. look at your screen and then look at the cash you have left when you come back from the grocery store. can we get biden to the grocery store? >> he is in a bubble. all of these people in bubble are all in the bubble. they don't go out shopping or talk to normal people. all of their photo shoots are carefully set up, etc. we know that while the president is saying he won't increase taxes except on people making over $4 hundred thousand, the middle class and poor are the ones affected most by the inflation tax.

the cooling of inflation has moderated. it is stuck in this 5 to 6% range. that is still greater year-over-year than people are making increases in their salaries. so they are still under water. americans are under water and struggling for a breath of fresh air. >> harris: that word i wrote it down. inflation is sticky. that's right. >> it's a very technical term. >> harris: we get it. we've had stuff stuck on our shoes before. at least he is not a quitter. the president continues to claim republicans are coming for our social security and medicare. he won't quit doing it. >> president biden: i want to invest in america. lower costs, protect and strengthen social security and medicare. cut the deficit by $2 trillion in ten years. rick scott said i'm cutting prescription drug costs, cutting medicare. where has he been? i think he is a little confused. we are strengthening medicare

because they will no longer have to pay big prices to big pharma. >> harris: senator scott had this for the president. the only person who is confused here is joe biden. i'll give him one thing, scott says, biden's decision to not keep $280 billion in medicare is a cut and that's consistent with his years' long work to cut and attack entitlement programs. >> we've seen the president saying when he was a senator cutting social security and medicare. he said it over and over. >> president biden: it is on youtube. >> he has been saying it back in the 2020 election the "washington post" are, gave him four pinocchio's saying he is running through the same rhetoric. he wants to increase taxes to pay for this new idea of big government taking over the economy. not only in terms of the inflation tax but he wants the new normal for him includes

taxing your stock retirement funds before you actually cash them out. that's the liz warren wealth tax where they confiscate money that you've already paid taxes on and want to super size the i.r.s. >> harris: he is doing that pre-election dance. he is getting the favors in there hoping to scoop up the far left side of the party if he plans to run again. we got it. we've seen the dance before. it's the words, no rhythm. >> middle class will suffer terribly. >> harris: david, thank you. woke researchers want to ban the word female and they want to ban the word male and a lot of other terms. doctors an scientists and the rest of us use all the time. emotions red hot at that meeting on the ohio train derailment disaster.

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>> harris: this just in. a special grand jury in georgia's election investigation has released its report on president trump and the accusations against him that he tried to overturn the election. the grand jury says some of the witnesses committed perjury and it's urging appropriate indictments for them. the same grand jury, however, found there was no widespread fraud in the 2020 election. right now our own alexis mcadams is reading through the detailed report and will bring us a live report moments from now as she gets through it. the blame game is in full force in the toxic after math of the east palestine, ohio train derailment. pete buttigieg tweeted this. we're constrained by law on some areas of rail regulation like

the braking rule withdrawn by the trump administration? 2018 because of a law passed by congress in 2015 but using the powers we do have to keep people safe. we get it. you'll blame trump. wow. congressman bill johnson, who represents east palestine, ohio, says if someone wants to play the blame game now that's their decision but i will stay focused on the residents and the tasks at hand and he had more to say. >> i will tell you my staff has been in touch with the epa. i have not talked directly with the national transportation safety board and not heard a word from the transportation secretary, secretary buttigieg >> harris: he invited buttigieg to the town hall meeting last night. he didn't show up. a new headline sums up the situation this way. an ohio town where train derailed, anxiety and distrust are running deep. that was on full display at the

so-called informational open house. >> harris: joining me now brandon is here and brandon, you live about a mile and a half from what i would call the target zone for the toxic release of that plume. you were there. we saw some of the emotion. tell me about it. >> last night at the town hall meeting you could definitely tell by the outpouring members of the community showed up to find out information but clearly

just again round and round, no direct answers. the people from epa, there was only several people that actually came up and spoke and to look at the other surrounding personnel, protection agencies and what not you could tell there was fear in their eyes as well just being at that meeting. when you have a group of community members looking for information and the people you are looking to are scared to provide you with that information, it is rather disturbing. >> harris: no doubt. i want to know specifically what happened on february 3rd at 8:49 p.m. eastern. that's how long it has been. i know that you have told my team and me that you feel like they waited too long to evacuate you. >> absolutely. friday night when the train derailment happened i want to know why there wasn't an immediate evacuation set in place due to the fact they knew what was on the cars because they have to provide the information to the fire

department on what they will suppress this fire with. they used foam, they used to contain it as best they could. when this train left was in salem knew there was a mal function in salem, which these markers are every 20 miles for them to provide information about the train and what is going on with it. why weren't they slowing down at that point in time? >> harris: we're looking at pictures that you have given "the faulkner focus" and the detail of this, you are in pennsylvania. i want people to know that. you are near where the crash site was but it is now in a different state and you say they waited too long to evacuate you. this is horrifying what you have brought us. we've seen pictures from the air. this is unbelievable. did you think you could even get far enough away? >> i don't believe that at all. when they talked about in the beginning they said about the one-mile radius. there was a gentleman that testified the one mile was for

the blast zone, for the shrapnel on the train if it was to explode. so how far they got off topic of this one mile. one mile was never about the smoke inhalation that we were all breathing. that was for shrapnel only. >> harris: i want you to watch something with me. we had one of our experts here, medical experts at fox news talk, dr. marc siegel on the show yesterday and he said something about these chemical risks that is really disturbing. watch and listen to this, brandon. it speaks to the issue. you didn't get far enough away and you knew it. >> hydrogen chloride, a toxic gas, people are getting headaches and can cause respiratory problems. another gas that was in world war i used as a poison. the other one no one is talking about is bout all acolyte

causing headaches. i am worried about vinyl chloride small amounts in the environment leads to cancer, even small amounts in the environment can affect fertility and worried about the long-term risks. >> harris: you could see medical problems and risks for decades to come. there was the problem you told the team about they let you in too quickly and we heard it over and over again. what did they tell you? >> absolutely. my sister lives on front street in east palestine a half mile at best from the accident site. when they allowed her to go back to her home sunday and then they were in their basement and -- why the immediate ability to let people go back into such a dangerous zone? >> harris: do you think they knew it was dangerous? >> no.

my question for them would be what chemicals or what vapeors were you breathing in when all the four chemicals were on fire and everybody was out with cameras and video recorders taking video of this? what were people breathing in then? we knew about the chemicals on board the train and cancer causing agents and here we are now, you know, like you said, short term game finding out what we need to do to get by but i have four kids. very loving father and i care very much about my kids and their future and health and safety and i had a well at my house and how we obtain our water and they said the different levels of people where their aquifers are and how it gets there. how do you get it out of your well once it's in there? i've seen chemists talk and it

can be there for up to how many years. >> harris: that's what dr. siegel was saying. you will be dealing with this likely for decades to come. brandon, god bless you and your four little ones, your whole family. i am sorry you are going through this and all the people around you and now pennsylvania and ohio. we'll check back with you. i want to know what happens next. what are they going to tell you and what are they going to do? >> can i say one more thing? with the epa there on site and the cleanup of this massive crash, of all the chemicals spilled everywhere and continuation of them removing cars and still chemicals spilling on the ground as they demolish the cars to haul them off site, they dug the trench. burned the chemicals off. now they're all in the ground. there was no proper excavation

done. >> harris: i see where you are going, water. your governor is drinking bottled water. brandon, thank you. i want to have more time with you when you come back and we'll get into what happens next. i really appreciate you telling us. >> appreciate your time very much. >> harris: thank you. the truth, it hurts, doesn't it? that was a lot of detail. where is pete buttigieg, the transportation secretary? 2024gop candidate nikki haley sparking debate with this. >> first of all, we have too many politicians in d.c. past their prime. we have to have term limits in congress. we need to see competency tests for any elected official over the age of 75. >> harris: that comes as 80-year-old president biden is set to get his annual physical today. tyrus is in "focus" next. and what if you could design your life the way you want it?

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>> harris: so this hour we've been covering the breaking news. the report on president trump and accusations that he tried to overturn the election. alexis mcadams is reading through the report. some of the people lied in that case against him. >> that's right. they did. they are talking about possible perjury charges here. we're digging into the document just released here in the past half hour. the probe has been going on for two years. for the first time we find out what evidence the atlanta area special grand jury found as they invested president trump and allies tried to change the election results in fulton county, georgia. one of the big headlines is the phone call from former president donald trump that he made when he told the georgia secretary of state that he needed to find

more than 11,000 votes to beat joe biden. listen. >> all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state. flipping the state is a great testament to our country. >> that call was at the center of this investigation. georgia judge released part of the report today revealing a majority of the grand jury decided some witnesses may have lied under oath when they testified. quoting from this document here a majority of the grand jury believes perjury may have been committed by one or more witnesses testifying before it. the panel didn't identify who the witnesses were they recommended the charges be filed in this case. today's partial release comes amid other major investigations and allegations donald trump and supporters tried to overturn the 2020 election results in key battleground states.

they cannot indict on their own under law but asking the d.a. in fulton county, georgia, to do so. >> harris: wow. are we shocked people lied? we'll see what they actually said and find out what they said about the former president that got us this far. thank you. alexis, good to see you. president biden undergoing his annual fiscal at walter reed today. a top democratic operative says it is a real problem. >> it's pretty clear he intends to run but, you know, nothing -- you can always change your mind. i think the age issue is going to be huge. could we please find somebody under 75 to be our president? >> harris: carville is not a fan. 2024 republican candidate nikki

haley with this. >> in the america i see the permanent politician will finally retire. [cheers and applause] we'll have term limits for congress. [cheers and applause] and mandatory mental competency tests for politicians over 75 years old. [cheers and applause] >> harris: tyrus in "focus" now. fox news contributor. what is your immediate reaction to first of all we'll test people. >> i love it. they might test me, too. i'm not 75. >> harris: you are 22 again. [laughter] >> i wish. no, listen. i love everything that haley said. it was amazing. it was exciting and a breath of fresh air. i'm huge about term limits. term limits and qualified immunity. a long way to get there. the two things that change a lot of things we're seeing in politics. >> he has been in politics for 50 years.

he wouldn't be here if there were term limits. >> thank you for your time. it's time to move on, mr. president. >> harris: the feds are helping some employees cope with witnessing a changing environment and we're paying for it calling it echo grief counseling available in a four-hour workshop. in a notice to employees the fish and wildlife service says it is intended for those experiencing ecological grief and for those who wish to support them. when they see things dying in the atmosphere and fish, i wish they would go to ohio and care about the people there. >> the season changes, must be brutal. the leaves are turning and they fall. the circle of life. mother nature is fine. i'm an outdoorsman. some even raise children but that's neither here nor there. the point is that this is -- who is doing this? echo grief, mother nature has a rule. things go, the strong survive, etc. >> harris: we do, too,

eventually. >> instead of grieving focus on yourself and get yourself going and enjoy everything while you've got it. you never know what it will be gone. >> harris: there you go. woke police coming for doctors and scientists an organization published a list of 24 terms it calls offensive and they include invasive as an invasive species. the group calls the word anti-immigrant. they want newly arrived or nuisance species instead. female and male on the chopping block. sperm-producing and egg-producing. one more. double blind study which they say is ableist. >> okay. no. no. we're not playing this game. the adults are in the room now. the answer is no. i'm not calling somebody a special donor or egg layer unless it is a chicken. listen, it means the same thing. ruining the definition of man

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♪ ♪ >> hello, everyone, this is "outnumbered." i am emily compagno with my cohost kayleigh mcenany and harris faulkner. joining us today, most of the mansion global katrina camp ends, for the first time on "outnumbered," texas land commissioner and partner lop george p bush. george, we are so grateful to have your today, so honored. to the last time i