♪ ♪ feel my heart beat ♪ i feel my heart beneath my skin ♪ i feel my heart beating. >> brian: daytona beach is nice. cold play is a wonderful choice, why? because every song sounds very similar. i think because the lead singer has a very distinctive voice. used to be married to gwyneth paltrow and they consciously decoupled. didn't they have a conscious decoupling? >> ainsley: they coined the

phrase. >> brian: any of thiest way to get divorced ever. in talking about the marriage when i look at him we are friends. is he like my brother now. how does your relationship evolve like that. it doesn't really go down. it just changes but if you have a rock star and a famous actress, isn't it easier to stay together? >> steve: so when you see daytona, you see cold play and gwyneth paltrow. when ainsley and i see daytona, we think the fact that we have rachael and will live there in daytona because the daytona 500 is this weekend. good morning to both of you. you got a full house there. >> rachel: good morning. >> will: beautiful sunrise in daytona beach, we are talking to diners all morning long. one of the things talking about how they feel today. we have been hearing this over and over. look, ufos, china, crime, illegal immigration. a lot of people feeling less safe than they did a few years ago. in fact, let's ask them. how many people here. [cheers] [laughter]

>> will: okay. good morning. >> rachel: have having a lot of fun. >> will: how many feel more unsafe today than you did three years ago. raise your hands. [cheers] >> rachel: it will be interesting to see exactly what makes them feel unsafer. let's do that right now. hi. >> hi, how are you? >> rachel: what's making you feel unsafe? >> immigration, crime -- we live in new york. so takes us totally unsafe. kathy hochul being our governor and not lee zeldin. >> rachel: good reason. >> not spending the money we need on the military. >> rachel: military spending? >> yep. >> illegal immigration, crime. not backing the blue. >> country not being united. we're divided. it's not good. we're not strong. >> rachel: one last one? >> our borders are just -- you know, they are just letting everybody in. you don't know who is coming in. terrorism, you know, we had 9/11 and you don't know what's going on. >> rachel: all right. >> it's crazy.

>> rachel: you are hearing that. all right. back to you guys. >> steve: all right. >> a beautiful day down there at racing's north turn. be sure you watch. there is going to be a lot of turns at the daytona beach airs this sunday 2:30 in the afternoon on fox. >> ainsley: 40 cars making that starting grid. why will be watching. >> steve: start your engines. >> ainsley: president biden finally breaking his silence on unidentified objects shot down by the military as the navy wraps up its recovery of the chinese spy craft off the coast of south carolina. >> steve: meanwhile the commander-in-chief says the last three objects we shot down do not appear to be connected to any foreign surveillance campaign in particular, china. >> brian: yes. not close. peter doocy is live from the white house can with the latest. peter? >> steve: president biden is now says the rules are changing. buff that these new regulations about when he can and will give the order to shoot down an ariel object are going to remain classified. that's even though he now admits only one of the objects he gave the order to shoot down was a

spy craft. >> we don't yet know exactly what these three objects were. but nothing, nothing right now suggests they were related to china's spy balloon program or that they were surveillance vehicles from other -- any other country. the intelligence community's current assessment is that these three obj objects were most liky balloons tied to private companies, recreation, or research institutions studying weather or conducting other scientific research. >> steve: i >> pete: seems out what turned to be a rush to shoot unidentified objects out of the sky over the last few weeks wasn't because there were a bunch coming towards the u.s. for the first time. the president now admits they have been up there. we just didn't see them. >> we don't have any evidence that there has been sudden increase of objects in the sky. we are now seeing more of them partially because of the steps we have taken continue to crease our radars. >> peter: answers about the

object shot down over alaska may be coming now via the northern illinois bottle cap balloon brigade. they say that they lost what aviation week is describing as a party style balloon over alaska. the same day an f-22 shot something down in the same spot. norad is saying the fbi has spoken with the hobby club and expects the national security council to have more on potentially identifying the objects. but, ron meadows, the founder of the scientific balloon solutions, which makes that kind of balloon, says i tried contacting our military and the fbi and just got the run around to try to enlighten them on what a lot of these objects probably are. and they're going to look not too intelligent to be shooting them down. the style of balloon that they think may be theirs, that was shot down, 12 to $180 each. these style of weapon used to shoot them down about $400,000 each. back to you.

>> brian: peter, i never thought i would hear this phrase. the fbi contacted the hobby club. just that right there. >> ainsley: norad. >> brian: and the hobby club actually tried to turn themselves. in i'm guilty of having a balloon hobby. >> steve: we were tracking it until we lost it they said on sunday. >> peter: got to put yourself in that room. it's a hobby club and they are watching. hey, where's our balloon on whatever day, february 10th? >> brian: they were tracking it. >> peter: hey, bill, come here. >> ainsley: peter, you might have said. this how much was it to shoot it down 350,000? >> it's like 430,000 for each one of those missiles. >> ainsley: for a $12 balloon. they can cost between $12 and $180. hobby club buys at hobbyhat we l deficit spending. peter, in the hills industry of norad. and norad goes back a long time. when was the last time the united states at the suggestion of norad shot anything down? >> it hasn't happened.

not here. >> so it has happened now and they took out a $12 balloon. >> well, they say they don't know. but, again, they are admitting that it's some kind of research or recreation. you kind of feel for the guys who are putting $12 balloons up only to be -- only to have the world's mightiest fighting force thtake them out. >> ainsley: so bizarre. if you are a hunter you don't shoot at anything unless you know what you are shooting at. and, with please balloons, did they not know? they didn't have any idea. >> peter: when you listen to the audio from the guys in the cockpit, they said the object was moving so slow that they couldn't really get a good look at it and that they were worried mostly about crashing into it before they had a chance to actually take it out again we don't know for certain this is the hobby club's balloon there is a lot of circumstantial evidence and they contacted aviation week. i guess they contacted everybody they thought might be

interested. aviation week wrote it up. >> steve: on the way home today, i'm going to surveil party city on the way home because they have a lot of balloons. peter, thank you very much for the live report. ains we need to know who owns the other two balloons. this hobby club is coming forward. >> steve: ainsley, i looked this up. any given day, guess how many weather balloons, weather style balloons are launched. >> ainsley: how many. >> steve: any day in the world? >> ainsley: how many? >> steve: 1800 are launched up. here in the united states about 100 a day. >> brian: side winders. >> ainsley: how do they not interfere? >> steve: here's why, most flights last two hours. drift 125 miles and can reach up to 100,000 feet at which point often they just explode. >> brian: i have a ship in the bottle. do you think the navy is going to attack it? >> steve: no. no. don't tell. >> brian: i don't want a submarine to take it out. >> ainsley: laugh about it is outrageous. >> he is saying who is going to be the one to tell the american public we blew up a $12 balloon? >> well, senator ted cruz of

texas said put this out on a tweet to be fair joe biden is providing powerful deterrence for any high school science clubs that might try to invade america. >> steve: that's how much we know so are if a. could have been just a $12 balloon. >> china not off the hook. you still did the first one. the other three well, stand down. >> remember that description of that object so he lynn demois i lynndemocratic call. >> what happened to our balloon? though just made the news. i think suddenly. >> brian: they need a balloon. they are out of balloons now. that was probably somebody's favorite. >> steve: you never know. all right. meanwhile, other news. president biden's e.p.a. administrator finally has

visited east palestine two weeks after the toxic train derailment that sent that black stuff flying. >> ainsley: blue transportation secretary pete buttigieg is not going and said. >> steve: this. >> brian: now. >> horrible situation has gotten a particular amount of high attention. there are roughly 1,000 cases a year of a train derailing. >> brian: now i feel better. while i can't drink my water or take a shower. our next guest lived just a few miles from the dee derailment. i guesses ms. murphy why don't i ask you. this how do you feel about some derailments the secretary of transportation can't be bothered to come visit you. >> well, what relief that we are at the bottom of the list out of 1,000. how insignificant does that make you feel? to me, it's his job. and this is something that he should be here for. this is pretty significant, the

amount of chemtion, cancer-causing chemtion that we're released and deal with. thee need a little guidance here. i think this deserves a pink slip for his job. where else is there a derailment right now where they are dealing with what we are dealing with? what else is going on other than these balloons floating through the sky that he is working on or concerned with. >> steve: yeah. although there was a derailment, same railroad company in detroit yesterday. lisa, i know that you live -- you know this painfully well. they said okay, one mile around the disaster site we're going to monitor everything, you know, we're going to keep an eye on things and we are going to take care of the people. you live 1.0 # miles from the explosion site. you don't trust anybody. you're hiring people to do your own testing, right? >> correct. we have well water.

and i want to be safe and make sure it's going to be done correctly. i'm going to be told the truth what's in my well water. >> are you drinking bottled water right now? >> yes, we are. >> for how long? >> forever until i get answers. we're not getting no answers. nobody is wanting to help us. >> ainsley: linda, how are you affected by this? are you scratchy throat or the eyes or noticing anything with your pets? and what are you doing about your water? >> well, the same as my fellow resident. we have well water. and we're really concerned. and thankfully, we had a wonderful viewer of fox who donated some water to us for our horses arrowhead wine cellulars in pennsylvania drove down and donated water for our horses. something that we can't rely on these big agencies to do, a complete stranger miles away donated that for us.

so, what a blessing that is. >> steve: no kidding. >> thankful for that as far as any side effects, i have had a headache and just auditing gling sen station like in the gums and on my lips occasionally that's what i have noticed i know some other residents are experiencing things of the similar nature and a lot of children are having some issues with rashes, discoloration of the skin. my brother-in-law actually went to the hospital and got checked out. he was having some severe symptoms. some breathing issues. so it's affecting everybody in one way or another. >> brian: lisa, i found out i don't know if it effects you directly the high school basketball game was canceled the team said i'm not going to visit there. we will take the forfeit. we will take the loss. in particular, i hear that people are walking around the companies train company is walking around offering $1,000 for expenses but wants you to sign a waiver. have you been asked to do that and have other people you know

done that? >> i have not been asked to do that and i will not do that. they can keep their $1,000. >> steve: right. >> i do have friends in town that have and i think it's sad that they are misleading everybody. >> steve: lisa, i understand in your house that you are sitting in right now, i believe, there is a smell. you're also the director of nursing. you could stay at your job, but you want to sell your house but now you worry who's going to want to buy a house in east palestine? >> nobody is going to want to buy a house here. our area is known for planting gardens and fruit stands on the corners in the summers. anybody going to come to this town and want to buy anybody's produce or fruit off of the fruit stands anymore? >> brian: it's going to be a while. >> ainsley: definitely going to effect the economy. there are all these lawsuits claiming negligence, property damage, economic loss, exposure

to hazardous chemicals. so i'm so sorry for everything y'all are going through. thanks for coming on this morning. and they need water. that was so nice of this viewer what was the name of the. >> brian: arrowhead. >> arrowhead wine cellulars in erie, pennsylvania. >> steve: god bless them. >> thank you. >> ainsley: god bless both of you too. >> steve: thank you both for joining us. >> ainsley: your governor is going to be coming up on our show coming up at 8:30. there's his picture. we will have governor mike dewine on. >> steve: all right, it is 7:15 now here in the east. and ashley joins us now with the latest from that big trial in south carolina. >> even more details coming out. we're going to start with the alex murdaugh double murder trial. the disbarred attorney murdering wife and son. police audio was played of him admitting he tried to take his own life in ann attempt to try to get a large insurance payout for his son buster. >> how would you describe your

state of mind at that point. >> i was [inaudible] >> what does that mean? >> i thought it would be better for me not to be here anymore. >> what do you mean by not be here anymore? >> i thought that it would make it easier on my family for me to be dead. >> ashley: his lawyer admits murdaugh was dealing with a severe drug addiction at the time of that incident. spending upwards of $50,000 per week on narcotics. and pennsylvania senator john fetterman checking himself in to walter reed army medical center for treatment for cleaning call depression. why john and experienced depression on and off only become severe in recent weeks. fetterman was hospitalized after feeling light-headed during a democratic retreat and dealing with lingering health problems after suffering a stroke last year during his bid for senate docusign laying off 10% of

workforce. expected to lose their jobs. the san francisco based company says is part of an effort to boost growth and profit. the cuts are on top of another round of layoffs back in september which affected 9% of his staff. docusign growing list of companies laying off this year. netflix, meta and disney. coming off of his super bowl mvp performance viral video appears to show chiefs quarterback mahomes handing the trophy to a random fan. turns out its fake. described the moment with mahomes as pretty awesome. meanwhile, two-time super bowl winning tight end that voice kelce we veelg he will be hosting "saturday night live" on march 4th. kelce is the first athlete to host the nbc sketch comedy show in three years. i bet that one is going to be pretty funny. >> brian: who is the last one peyton manning or eli manning. >> ainsley: last football player to do it.

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>> brian: as anxieties grow over u.s. airspace security the military has intercepted four russian fighter aircraft as they approach alaska's air defense identification zone. this happened twice this week. >> this is the second incident in just days. this as president biden hits to

poland as biden heads to poland on monday to mark one year since russia's invasion of ukraine because -- so what is the latest with u.s. russian relations? let's bring in because it's friday general jack keane, four star general, fox news' senior strategic analyst. so, first off, what are the russians up to going into alaska twice in a week? >> they do this as harassment for the last 15 years. they average about six or seven times violation of what is called our air defense identification zone. that's still international waters but all countries put that out there to give them particularly warning to react to one that may intend to violate airspace. the russians do not violate u.s. airspace. and norad does not think this is provocative nor do they think it's a threat because they have never violated you are u.s. airspace not something to be that concerned about. >> let's talk about ukraine one

year later. this is the invasion that the russians promised and their goal to capture bakhmut by the one year anniversary next week. can they. >> it's possible but unlikely they are taking sump significant casualties. only thing to push the ukrainians out of there to own decision to preserve the force much as they did in several don't new mexico earlier. donetsk earlier. such significant casualties this begins to set up the ukrainians for a successful counteroffensive that they're trying to do in the early spring. the rain is going to come late march, april, likely we will see them moving forward in the may june time frame the condition of the weather is factor. they would have started earlier if they had received the advanced weapons that they

hopefully those weapons get there as soon as possible because they want to integrate them into their offensive and it will be an important and decisive part of their offensive. >> they need tanks. and the patriot missile system, i understand they are being trained on this new equipment that we're sending over. and they need the tanks being delivered. also, i understand, the patriots set up because last night they had 32 air and sea launch missiles thrown at them. including 12555 cruise missiles. so, they are coming from the caspian sea in many cases. they are still aiming at the infrastructure while trying to push forward on the ground. >> yeah. the russians, knowing they have had huge problems on the ground with their maneuver forces and artillery, resorted to this campaign. an air campaign to destroy the physical infrastructure to cause ukrainian people significant energy problems and to break their will. the institute for the study of

war, which i'm associated with has analyzed this closely every single day, seven days a week. and the resolve of the ukrainian people is remarkable. they are stud fast and they are still in this. despite the obvious casualties and suffering that the russians are imposing. those air defense systems that we're talking about are absolutely crucial. some of the ukrainian air defense systems cannot deal with the sophistication of some of the missiles. so, yes. patriot systems and other systems like that, which the ukrainians began asking for last year are vital to keeping that suffering down and certainly casualties down in their own people. >> brian: can you imagine when they get in place and move the offensive and russians lost maybe 200,000 people already, momentum could be on their side this year. general keane, thanks so much. appreciate it. >> yeah. great talking to you, brian. have a great weekend. you and the team. >> brian: all right. absolutely. you too. meanwhile, coming up, speaking of a this weekend 8:00 repeated at 11:00 eastern time.

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>> we begin with this new lawsuit against jp morgan chase said jeffrey epstein sent young pictures to executive at the firm. epstein and jeff stally used disney princess names like snow white code names for the women. it suggests stally who was once ceo of barclays may have been involved in epstein's sex trafficking operation prosecutors in the virgin islands where epstein owned two private islands say epstein paid the girls funds from a chase account. a nevada sheriff's office releases shocking body cam footage several officers fentanyl. this happened after a drug bust in october. officers found powdery substance

and a launched it in the air. two officers needed doses of the overdose reversal drug narcan. watch this. >> trey, trey. >> i got him. i got him. i got him. >> i don't know, dude. >> trey, dose him, dose him. >> ashley: scary stuff right there. total of five deputies put in the hospital as a precaution. last week one of the suspects was sentenced to 32 years in prison for selling the deadly drug. the white house doctor who conducted president biden's health evaluation gives him a clean bill of health mid call experts are pointing out the 80-year-old did not get a mental status exam over a question about family's. >> come poo mizeed by family -- mr. president, mr. president. >> give me a break, man. [chuckle] >> come to my office and ask a question when you have more polite people. >> ashley: during the briefing

president biden suggest toledo downed unidentified objects are not related to the chinese surveillance programs. and in south carolina, family uses the power of social media to raise more than $250,000 for a domino's delivery driver. the family saw this doorbell camera of the 72-year-old falling on their front porch. that poor woman. helping her up. they quickly jumped to action to help her up. she only suffered minor injuries, luckily, but the next day the family was able to surprise her with an incredible donation raised through a go fund me campaign. the family hopes now she will retire so she can spend some more time with her grandkids. and those your headlines. we are going to toss it out to janice. hi, janice. >> hello, good morning. we have rain heading up towards the northeast and the potential for some freezing rain for upstate new york and new england. take a look at the maps. you can see where the temperatures are warm ahead of this cold front. same cold front that brought tornadoes to parts of mississippi and some hail and damaging winds yesterday. so that line of storms is going

to move across the southeast, the mid-atlantic, and the northeast, we won't see the big thunderstorms that we saw yesterday but we could see some heavy rainfall and gusty winds with that from florida up towards hatteras and then up towards the northeast. that's where we could get the icy weather. we will keep an eye on that. there are your daytime highs. 82 in miami. 70. >> raleigh. snow in the west and great lakes. and then we have the daytona 500 forecast for sunday and while this is sunday in the afternoon. and then sunday afternoon the temperatures are going to drop with that cold front so just keep that in mind. doesn't look like there is rain in the forecast. which is good news. steve, ainsley, brian, over to you. >> steve: we should be in florida. ian january that's an awful idea. >> steve: no kidding. >> ainsley: some of our friends are janice. listen to this. racing fans are gearing up for the great american race to open nascar season, the daytona 500 is this weekend like janice said on sunday on fox. >> steve: it is the "fox & friends first" weekend crew is along for the ride on this friday. >> brian: and i have met them

before. will cain and rachel campos-duffy are having breakfast with friends they just met. >> will: you sound unimpressed that you have met us before, brian. >> brian: i'm sorry, i'm glad i met you. >> will: steve, you need to be in florida. take a look. the sun is up. how beautiful it is right now. >> steve: oh, that's -- yeah. >> will: waves rolling in right here on the beach. we are talking to friends as you pointed out. friends of "fox & friends." >> >> rachel: probably at the prettiest diner in all of america. this is quite a view. people are concerned we have been talking to them all morning. i have got here with me mindy. she actually moved from new york a year ago. >> a year ago. and randy retired we came down here because we were getting strangled by taxes in upstate new york. we knew our dollar was going to go further in florida. >> rachel: good call. randy is retired. he says she goes to work. she works in insurance. he just does the honey do list. which i love. all right. we're here with collette. tell me what is concerning you the most. >> i'm very concerned about our

school system and what they are trying to teach their children. they have books in the school system have no place in the public school system. we want to eliminate indoctrination. we want just plain education. >> rachel: thus the shirt, "moms for liberty. "what's worrying you most about america right now. >> i'm concerned with the borders. we have, really for lack of better word gangsters and thugs with the cartel coming over every single day. the department of homeland security can't keep up with or do anything about it. i have friends that work on the borders. and they say that they are just diving right over there's nothing they can do. i got good bumps talking about it. >> rachel: i know. so many people worried about that. randy, you get to that honey do list. will, back to you. >> will: all right. rachel, thank you for that throughout the morning we have been talking to people about what they think their biggest issues are i want to introduce to you this table. what i find nasa sinating about

this conversation i have begun to have with you guys is a little bit about how you feel. we were talking about in america, talking with someone how might have disagreement, it's just turned into complete divisiveness. >> exactly. yeah. you ask a question like, listen, teach me your views. i would like to learn. they get very defensive. they don't -- they don't even know what they feel. so it's really -- they can't even teach you. >> will: carla here, you want to get your phone out. ufo, she spotted one somewhere out here she showed me the pictures. you found a balloon. >> did i find a balloon. it was on a power line but did i find a balloon. different color but i found it. >> will: sharice here has a shirt on it. says heavenly strong. around the table. sherri reiss, will you tell me what that means? we talk so much about a divided country. i at this it's important what we have at the level of the community. >> heavenly strong is a group of people that meet three times a week for boot camp and we choose a charity local to donate all

the money to. so usually it's been 3 and $500. and it's just been great to bring everybody together. so,. >> will: once a month they meet. once a month they donate to a new charity. they get out on that beach. >> see, tom has got the gutfeld shirt on. we will see him if he could work out. gutfeld wouldn't but tom will. all right? that's a little bit of, i think, optimism and hope and community from in florida. back to you in new york. >> steve: what a great spot to have a little coffee first thing in the morning you watch the sun come up and see those balloons stubbs in the power lines. >> ainsley: or maybe a bloody mary. >> steve: it is friday. thanks, will, and rachel too, good job. >> will: you bet. >> brian: coming up straight ahead head by speaker mccarthy delegation go down to the border over in arizona. what they found? well, we will discuss it. congressman derek van or den was he's next.ne sn't care. i go to spin classes with my coworkers.

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♪ >> steve: some house republicans got a look at joe biden's border crisis in arizona where authorities are dealing with record encounters despite the white house dismissing the visit as a partisan publicity stunt. our next guest was there as part of the partisan publicity stunt. let's bring in republican wisconsin congressman derrick van orden. good morning to you, congressman. >> good morning, steve. how are you doing? >> steve: i'm doing okay. what do you think about this being called a publicity stunt? >> listen, you know what this needs, this border crisis? more publicity. this problem set is unbelievable. i would like to say that it's shocking but it's not. the biden administration has set these border policies that have left this border open. and the terrain down here in the tucson sector is some of the worst terrain i have been n my liar life. it's unbelievable. the border is wide open. i sat with the speaker of my

house. the congressional delegation in that operations room you are seeing a picture of. we are watching illegal immigrants enter the country in real time so, yes, the country needs to know what is actually taking place down here on the border. it needs more publicity because secretary mayorkas, the president of the united states and our alleged border czar kamala harris are simply lying to the american public. the border is wide open. >> and you can see it on the big screen right there. i know speaker mccarthy said yesterday and we have herd him heard himsay this before. is he going to the house down to the border. when you have hearings. perhaps a number of democrats who have never seen the border they will be able to see it with their own two eyes. it's interesting, a day after you toured the southern border. later today the house democratic leader hakeem jeffries is going to be in the laredo area with henry cuellar. the white house say -- said all those republicans they are doing a photo op., publicity stunt, now it looks like the democrats are doing a photo op. publicity

stunt. >> well, i hope they go and speak to some of the people just look at them face to face. you can't sit across the table from these folks and not understand what a problem this is. we are in the town of holstein the other day. marry of an ajinning town also in the county supervisor, the had sheriff, some other local law enforcement folks and business owners. and they are heart broken. the mayor of that town had a high-speed chase end 100 feet from his 85-year-old mother's house. >> steve: oh, man. >> these people are living in fear every day. the high-speed chases of these folks that are running away from law enforcement happen every single night. the greatest employer of folks in pima county right now is the sinaloa cartel from mexico. >> steve: what? >> they get on social media and hire people from around the country to come down to smuggle illegal immigrants and drugs across the border. it's absolutely shameful.

i hope hakeem goes down there and does an honest look and goes back to the president of the united states and secretary of homeland security and get yourself down here. this is what i would like to say to the secretary of homeland security mayorkas, do your damn job. get down here and look at this yourself for real. you can't hide this stuff when you are looking into these ranchers' eyes and realize they found 15 dead bodies on property that we were on yesterday. that's real. the cost is real. >> steve: congressman derek van orden has now been to our southern border twice. which means you have been there twice more than. >> the president of the united states and the vice president. >> steve: there you go. congressman, thank you very much for getting up early and talking about what you saw yesterday. >> thanks for having me, steve. you come down here, too. >> steve: i would like to because it changes all the time. thank you, sir. all right. still ahead. ohio's governor, mike dewine is here as fallout continues from that derailment.

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♪ >> ainsley: a thiessen can't of t.c. williams is demands the university of richmond t.c. williams school of law repay his family $3.6 billion in donations money. writes in a letter, quote: since you and your activist went

out of your way to discredit the williams' name and says the williams money is tainted demonstrate your virtue and give it all back. it comes after the law school changed its name after learning that the wealthy 19th century businessman. host of lawrence jones cross-country on saturday nights joins us now. hey, lawrence. >> hey, ainsley, how are you doing? >> ainsley: doing well. so this law school in richmond, the great, great grandson of mrt 3.6 million back. will they get it back? >> yeah. i mean, when these people give to universities, i get part of the reason it's for charity but they want their big name on the building. is i'm not surprised that when you remove that contractual obligation of putting the name on the building that the family wants to name back. i think this is getting toe slippery slope when you have a

contract and you say hey, look, if you give this certain amount of money to a school then we'll highlight it. it's just like an advertisement. we run commercials all the time. it would be like us deciding not to run to commercial after receiving the money. >> ainsley: i said 3.6 million. it's 3.6 billion. the family says there wouldn't be a law school did it weren't for our family's donation. lawrence, you are in north carolina. what are you doing there? lawrence lawrence yes, ma'am. apparently there is a huge hog problem so when you have a problem and you want to bring some veterans in to clean up that problem. this is a event for healing for the veterans. but this is also an event where the veterans can help the country by getting rid of some of these hogs that are destroying properties. we were talking about billions of dollars. they have destroyed billions of properties and that comes to the agriculture, the turkeys that are being eaten, as well as just destroying their property. so these special operators have given a lot to this country. what they do is many times is

many times in darkness and all the problems they deal with emotionally, it's in the dark as well. so, soww great organization. camper, did some hole hunting with the veterans around the camp fire. great event, ainsley. >> ainsley: they are using special ops to come in north carolina as well as south carolina? >> lawrence: yeah, ainsley. this is in your neck of the woods. >> ainsley: yeah. >> you get these special operators out here. there's a bonding that happens here. you talk about some of the issues that you are dealing with, you got all these men, we eat together, we sleep in campers and ainsley, believe it or not, they got me out of the suit and i went into the swamp yesterday. >> ainsley: we are seeing video? >> but i did kill a hog. >> ainsley: we can see it. >> we can see it the the wild bore down there can be very dangerous. how exactly are they catching them. do they trap them? >> yeah. so we got the trackers.

we got the dogs out there that go after them. they kind of like tell us the position of it and then, you know, whoever is up next to do the kill, that comes in for the kill. you know, obviously safety is a big thing and they teach you the position about where to grab the hog. but, you know, it's a man's business. >> ainsley: well, i'm proud of you. you are always out there doing great work. thank you so much, lawrence. and we will be watching your show tomorrow night. have great weekend, lawrence. >> lawrence: thank you. >> ainsley: tell our carolinaens hello. his show is on cross-country and on satu saturday nights, check t out. straight ahead. is he known as one of hollywood's toughest guys. but now bruce willis' family is opening up about his serious health struggles. ♪

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