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that criticism quickly spread to the mainstream media. >> what president could get away with shooting down unidentified flying objects all around north america and then not talk about it for days. >> president biden still silent after addressing the unidentified objects after taking down. >> so many questions and so few answers from the biden administration today after the united states shot down three more unidentified objects over the last few days. >> no excuse for the lack of action and no excuse for the people being kept in the dark when our military is shooting down objects we cannot even put a name to. >> this is becoming weird. dangerous even. >> more to communicate the american people about this issue. >> low-profile style, and times of trouble, people want to hear

from their commander-in-chief. i am howard kurtz and this is media buzz. ♪ >> peppered with questions from reporters about the shootdown speared suddenly they struck a softer tone. there was not that much they are after. >> benign and totally explainable reason certainly don't have to be nefarious at all. >> biden made his first public remarks. >> we don't yet know exactly what these three objects were. nothing right now suggest they were related to china's spy balloon program. if any object presents a threat to the safety of the american people, i will take it down. >> joining us now with to

analyze the coverage and in new york. both are fox news contributors. we see this with the very limited number of interviews that joe biden does. the first instinct is usually not to talk. >> you hear from some of the folks at the white house that joe biden is actually the best communicator in the white house. i think that he is better than a lot of the other folks on his team. when his absences felt particularly on something that dominated the news coverage, got so much attention, that is something that does not help to encourage people that he is someone that really has his hand on the wheel. he is in charge of what is going on. and that he is responding in a way that represents the way of the american people. in this particular story, we have not talked about this before but my own impression is this looks more and more like a

chinese screwup as opposed to the kind of thing a lot of us were concerned about. and intentional event trying to raise a middle finger to the american people or try to disrupt the talks scheduled with secretary of state antony blinken. we deserve to hear from the commander-in-chief much earlier about what was going on in order to have the confidence that he is in charge, he knows everything going on in his administration and when it comes time to make an order about shooting down any kind of object, he is in the know. >> the opposite really of donald trump who loves to talk about an tweet about whatever the hot issue is. certainly, sounding off every day of his military was shooting down these mysterious objects. >> sure. more is more. if he could dominate the media narrative, that was a successful day for him. joe biden believes less is more. it's a good idea to communicate

more, even if you don't have answers. they do not know what these things are. that is why the first word of ufo is unidentified. on the other hand, this is such catnip. the montage you played earlier, i thought i was watching that movie don't look up. there is nothing that fills the vacuum that is the 24 hour news cycle day in ufos. who could possibly resist that. >> be on the chinese spy balloon itself. maybe private researcher rather were objects. we lost one of ours. have the media over hike these ufos because of the new cycle and a bit of fear in the process. >> one thing to keep in mind, these types of investigative and spy like technology are things happening all the time.

usually happening further up in the atmosphere. low-level low level satellites. they are not showing up, they are not visible to the human eye. one of those things that i think we need to consider about this, this is something i have concerns of a lot of the time. the ufo conversation actually shifts away from an important conversation we need to be having about drone technology. china may be far more advanced than we are when it comes to this technology in ways that ought to raise a number of concerns about our military and how were prepared to deal with these circumstances. a number of people that feel that the ufo issue is kind of a smoke screen for the fact we have been falling behind in all of these different areas of technology. a very valid question that should be directed towards our leadership. >> if it spares us to that more serious look, that is a thing. i thought that i would hear from

the white house podium. whether they are extraterrestrial beings are not. the media loves unsolved mysteries. stand on the cell phone and look gravely concerned. this was the risk of the administration. some pundits starting to say welded the white house overreact and shoot down harmless objects? >> we do not know yet, do we. the unknown is a very hard thing for the media to be balanced about. also, let's say, we say this all the time. the media is not one thing. it is a whole bunch of independent actors. very hard to be balanced about something for which there is no information. there were these kinds of objects in the white house was not even told about them in the trump administration until after the fact. a lot of unanswered questions. very hard for the media to be

"patient." feed the beast, keep on going out there and saying we don't know, but we are researching. >> patients is not aware that we associate with the news business these days. why could he have not given these remarks after the first overlook alaska. what benefit is there to waiting? >> i don't think there's any benefit. people want to hear from the president on matters like this. they are all concerned. all turning to various sources that they find on the internet to give them different answers. even if it does turn out that we overreacted to a bunch of different weather balloons are local projects or thinks it had no security concerns, i still think it was incumbent on the president to come out earlier. our overall relationship with china is something people are very tense about. they are not sure what china's

intent is. how they will approach these type of gamesmanship program areas. a lot of skepticism coming out of the covid experience. we should not have an environment where there is an emptiness, a vacuum layer that allows other actors to come in when we do deserve to hear from the white house. >> in this situation i think it's better to overreact than under react. journalists want answers, the public wants answers. don't people cut the president some slack if he comes out and says, here is what we know, here is what we don't know, here is what i'm working on. i don't they expect him to wave a magic wand. >> i think just showing up, being there, answering questions, being reassuring is really helpful. joe biden tends to air on the other extreme. i think that if you go out there

and just kind of fill the void with reassuring sounds, even if you don't have any actual hard information yet, i think that that is better for the public. >> you talked about perhaps joe biden is the best communicator they have at the white house. many people they are kind of low profile, so forth. are we really talking about optics here? does it reassure people that the president of the united states is on the case, getting all the information he needs, making these decisions because he goes to the white house gets in front of the microphone and gives a speech. >> is about optics. that is one of the things that was botched here. so many concerns out there. people have this underlying sense that things are not going in ways that are normal. that hold promise to the return of normalcy that joe biden was supposed to represent.

people still feel very on edge. when it's actually floating across our airspace, intentional or not, they deserve to have the reassurance and optical presence of the president of the united states in ways that this white house did not grasp was as serious as it was until it was too late. >> how long do we need to keep milking this story? if they are no more shootdown's i can see it's fading pretty quickly. >> little green men. [laughter] >> when we come back, nikki haley jumping into the presidential race and gets a chilly reception from the media.

nikki haley mentioned donald trump's name only once in their presidential nomination speech is a man who made her un ambassador. it was impossible to miss that the former governor kept making aids references that somehow seem to apply to the 76-year-old former president. >> america is not passed our prime, it is just set our politicians are passed they are speared we won't win the fight for the 21st century if we keep trusting politicians from the 20th century. mandatory mental competency test for politicians over 75 years old. >> a lot of older people who vote. i think she runs the risk of insulting a lot of them. >> she will gradually gain steam because she knows the issues. >> after she said a few negative things about donald trump, then she penned a book praising him to the high heavens. on what ground is she standing

on that she stands up to bullies. >> nikki haley is in her prime. sorry. a woman considered to be in her prime in her 20s, 30s, maybe 40s. >> evaluation of nikki haley sage which he said was an artful and irrelevant. >> welcome outlook, if you believe the greatest most powerful weapon that we are born with is our mind, we cannot -- this is yet another long series of idiotic sexist comments that he has made repeatedly on that network. the only reason that i think he continues to get away with them is so few people are watching they are not actually mad at them. this is really a test, i think, of the way that the left of center media reacts whenever there is a conservative woman that shows up on the stage. nikki haley is not on favor to become the next presidential nominee but it was enough to

trigger whoopi goldberg, don levin, enough people that simply cannot deal with any kind of conservative woman who shows up on the stage. we've seen it time and again. it was insulting. it was obnoxious. i'm sure he has apologized but he will do it again. >> they say it is unacceptable. you are very much a near prime. i think he is trying to stir controversy to get the ratings up for that morning show. also, how does it play when haley's major criticism of trump's ideas 76 and mental competency test administered by who? >> everybody is doing a lot of ageism. what don levin did was just plain stupid. the same kind of disparaging things about democratic women who are not in their prime according to him. in terms of nikki haley, it is pretty convenient that she wants

the mental competency test to start after 75 because donald trump is 76. if she was aiming joe biden she would've put it a little higher. i thought that was pretty interesting. this is very similar to sarah huckabee sanders response. i am a new generation. that seems to be the way that challenges trump for the nomination in terms of nikki haley not sarah huckabee sanders will frame their challenge. it's about age, new generation, et cetera. >> the first interview with sean hannity. he asked her twice to define any policy differences she had with the former president. she ducked the first time. >> what specific policy areas would you say part with donald trump? >> what i am saying is i don't kick sideways, i am kicking forward. joe biden is the president.

he is the one i'm running with. >> asked a similar question. it's amazing the media wants to talk about that, should a presidential candidate be able to answer the question? >> i think it should be something very easy to answer. when it comes to the priorities, even less when it comes to disagreement, my priorities are dealing with america's education system. something she has talked about repeatedly over the course of her career. pick an issue. basically this would be my number one priority as president that is something that should be very easy for her to do and unfortunately it will be one of the reasons we will underperform in this whole contest going forward. she is not someone who i think will be able to gather steam. i think there are a lot of other folks that will be in this race having an easier answer to that question.

>> it seems like media liberals kind of like nikki haley for her character self, the governor when she took out the flag after a racially -based massacre there. for media conservatism, i think the consensus that she cannot sell yourself as an alternative to trump because he of the real thing that is running. >> you talk about the media reaction to nikki haley. it is based on what conservative republican strategist told the media. they do not see a real lane for her. she seems to be ambivalent and ambiguous about how she seems to want to handle donald trump. if the republican party was in a different era, a woman of color, a child of immigrants, first woman governor first date, all of those things would be incredible advantage for her. and her record in south carolina, especially in some of these racial issues. that is not where the republican party is right now. they wanted donald trump type

figure that will actually win. their problem with donald trump is not anything that he stands for or his policies. they just don't seem to like that he seems to be a loser. three times now. >> some on the left are either attacking for being too indian american or not indian american enough. some are using a given name. people when he first ran for barack obama use that. >> i grew up in south carolina. a lot of friends who love nikki haley as her time as governor. appreciate her. i think she's had to go through these attacks throughout her career. one more indication of how quickly our media conversation driven by those on the left shifts to this attitude without any kind of ramp up to it.

even the best case scenario republican still ends up being framed. [laughter] >> how about that. great to see you this sunday. one year anniversary of the ukraine war. pleading for faster aid to stop putin's reign of terror. that'll be right after this.

as the media walked this week's one year anniversary of russia's ruthless and unprovoked invasion of ukraine and president biden heading to poland making yet another plea for the west to speed up its delivery of weapons that will help them fight the coming offensive. >> just like last year i now propose to act immediately. but unlike last year, now i have the most convincing argument.

can we detour russia strikes? yes. can we protect our citizens from russian missiles? definitely. >> join now from ukraine, trey. the recent interviews told you if ukraine loses, we could be facing world war iii. do you have it more frustrated now because it was said you are running low on coming to slow dealing with the latest russian onslaught. >> absolutely. it reminds me when we spoke with zelinski just days into this starting with the presidential compound in kyiv that same sentiment was expressed by zelensky when we spoke with him earlier this month in the capital of kyiv. he understands he needs weapons

but he needs them in a timely manner. getting things like air defense systems, artillery units and calling for longer-range missiles. right now is not enough to win the war. enough to maintain the war. a war that vladimir putin is increasing. that is the worry. worrying that this will drag on for years and playing into the hands of russia. >> a bigger military. does zelensky also faced the obstacle of spending an extraordinary amount of money. helping ukraine. we have to worry more about our needs here at home. >> absolutely. and uphill battle for ukrainian leadership. they have to convince lawmakers to make sure they keep funding the ukrainian side in this conflict. the argument that we were given was that if this conflict does not stop in ukraine, it will

ultimately expand to nato countries like poland. it would cost u.s. taxpayers more money for broader conflict. zelensky was very clear in his warning to the west saying this could lead to world war iii. i really pressed him on this issue about what he believed. this could lead to a much larger conflict if ukraine does not leave the war. >> just briefly now that the war has battles over towns of most of us have never heard of, is it harder to get airtime on that? suffering from war fatigue when you are in? >> that is a great question. we have a responsibility to be here and continue reporting. just on the southern front line a few days ago. how they are suffering. things are getting worse here. as the winter months continue, the civilian population is

paying the highest price in this conflict. while interest can dip when there are other major news stories happening, it's critically important because there are millions of innocent people at risk. war crimes have been committed here. the ukrainian people do need international support in order to fend off this russian invasion. >> we appreciate you and our colleagues elsewhere taking the risk that you do to cover ukraine. thank you. next i'll media buzz. top democratic officials telling reporters off the record that they hope joe biden does not run again. mike pence touches the third kep mike pence touches the third kep rail of social security. ♪

minnesota congressman dean phillips and say publicly what many officials have been whispering quietly. joe biden has been a great president and if he was younger to be a no-brainer to renominate

him. at his age as it absurd. telling political the party getting off the narcotic of the office and an unnamed democratic governor said by did not his age could not do much campaigning. joining us now to analyze the coverages jason, now a fox news contributor in here in washington political analyst for sirius xm and wbo end. these top democratic senators and governors afraid to tell the press on the record that biden should not run, showed politico and others launder their comments and do their dirty work by publishing it anyway? >> if they are going to do actual reporting, they should report the fact that most democrats, most people looking at the president are saying i don't know if he can continue on in his current capacity let alone run again. he just had a medical exam this past week. no cognitive tests that were

revealed. he has a hard time getting through any day without a gap. his gait is out of order. very stiff. i think it exposes that the democrats really do not have a bench. they are not exactly excited about kamala harris. they are struggling to come up with anybody else i could do it. joe biden could not fly an airplane into this country but is flying an airplane right now. >> this seems like the mirror image of republicans who don't want trump to run again. fear of saying anything for a backlash from voters. he is 80. some of this has to be with how will he be later on. when you publish all of these background comments? very few want to use their names. >> absolutely not. there is a lack of integrity here. when you decide to publish something where nobody is going on record, what type of story is

that. in addition to what we know about president biden. part impartial of why democrats were able to take those sizable victories across the midterm. he is a reason why our nation is on track with the job creation, infrastructure package which will also pay more jobs. paying up to 130,000 dollars for individuals i don't even have college degrees. >> certainly a perception and the polls show it that democratic voters, more than 50% are worried about is age. >> we have heard and seen throughout his presidency when they released as physicals of that information was this is a president that does not have any serious health issues. he has some asthma. worry about pollen. this is a president that is shown he is strategic, smart, agile. just saw him stellar lead to liver the state of the union address. this is a time for biden to run

and win. i'm not worried about his age. quite frankly what we've seen on the ground from democratic voters, they are not worried either. >> in a way, the best person for biden to run against his donald trump because they are close in age whereas let's say that trump loses the nomination biden runs against anybody 30, 40 years younger that would be a problem. you can flip that with trump as well. >> yes. perhaps. i don't know if it totally boils down to that. the contrast between a vigorous donald trump is somebody who struggles and joe biden. joe biden, i think there's been malpractice. i appreciate the name of the show. the media does not hold them accountable. he barely answers any questions. rarely sits down for interviews. yet the media lets him get away with that. i just think that that is malpractice on the media's part. >> i lead the show saying he doesn't get very many interviews

and i wish it he would do more. i've known joe biden for 35 years. he has always had gaps. let me turn to mike pence. joe biden running as a protector of medicare and social security. here is the former vice president specifically naming medicare and social security in saying this. >> we literally have a paralysis in washington, d.c. that says we will never talk about reforming 70% of the federal budget. we have to have a conversation about reforming entitlements in the days ahead. >> it so happens that donald trump also talks about protecting medicare and social security not unlike some of the republicans. does the press make it difficult to have this kind of conversation because of the knee-jerk reaction? >> quite frankly, i think the media in this case is doing its job. showcasing republicans have been

trying to get rid of social security for quite some time. >> not all republicans. >> we have heard from several of them. the ideas of sunsetting israel. >> rick scott who came up with this idea is now exempting medicare and social security. >> yes. when you get public backlash of course they will recoil to a certain extent. i think it's important that the media investigate this. a stark contrast for long time. >> jason, you served in the house. everyone knows you have to grapple with these two entitlement programs. a huge chunk of the budget. if nothing is done, they will go broke. do you feel that whenever this comes up in context with the media rather than grappling with that reality to criticizing republicans. >> yeah, it does.

to mischaracterize what the vice president said just done moments ago is fundamentally wrong. what the vice president said is we need to reform it. does not it -- does not mean it will be stripped. you will not have the benefits to the future generations. if you care about social security, if you care about medicare is republicans do, you all know that it must be reformed in order to keep it solve it and providing the benefits. nobody in the republican party, nobody, is talking about stripping existing benefits for beneficiaries right now. nobody is doing that. the democrats in the media spin it time and time and time again. >> i just think democrats know as well as republicans that something needs to be done. let me get a break here. john federman hospitalized himself for clinical depression.

pennsylvania senator john fetterman still recovering from that stroke during last year's campaign. checking himself into walter reed suffering from clinical depression. it is feeding sympathy and criticism. >> lifelong struggles with clinical depression never coming up in the campaign?

we looked into it, it never came up. >> he deserves empathy, compassion, care, understanding and the same way that voters deserve transparency that he is providing right now about his condition. >> this is as heartbreaking as it is predictable. >> democrats pushed him into a job he was not up to doing. >> jason on fetterman now being in the hospital for weeks according to his age. how did the media push him into running? the day before the primary he suffered a stroke. >> i think this exposes a few things. everybody i know including myself wish him nothing but a full and complete them speedy recovery. but to have debates after the voting has started, there were hundreds of thousands of people in pennsylvania that voted. then they sell the debate in the vote trajectory changed a bit when people saw he was not able

to answer simple questions. ultimately, this is on the people of pennsylvania. the doctor went before and said he is fit for office. he is six weeks into a six-year term and he will be in the hospital four weeks. a lot of people are not surprised by that. >> i think a lot of people suffer and he is getting a lot of praise for saying what is really happening. the new york times did a piece last week before the latest development saying he was having trouble adjusting to his new duties. he understands everything you just has auditory processing troubles. how would the media know a few months after the election the road would lead to depression, which, apparently, is not uncommon with stroke victims. >> is not whether or not the media would know. it is more so being understanding of and taking empathy when talking about the situation. i say that because there are

hundreds of thousands of americans every day that go to work, contributing to our economy that suffer from these issues. what we have to do as a nation is make sure were having these conversations, being strategic, that we are not dehumanizing people while we are talking about. that we are also being structurally sound that mental health is an issue across america. i lost my younger brother due to suicide. one of the most heartbreaking experiences you could ever have. recognizing that it is real and having the resources to have that hospitalization, being as open and honest about john fetterman and his family have been we should be applauding. >> jason, let me just pick up on that. i do think fetterman was unfair not releasing his medical records when he was going through the aftermath of the stroke. at the same time, it seems as the press is sympathetic to the

circumstance and hope that he does better. it is a hard thing to deal with or him and his family. the related problem is, he is in this high-pressure job that is a lot for anybody to handle, even if they have perfect health. he didn't really have time to recover from the stroke. take it easy and not do much of anything. >> i guess i do not mind the media being sympathetic. as humans we can be sympathetic to someone that is obviously struggling. weeks after the voting has started to then have the debate. i applaud him for going through that debate. a lot of peoples switch their vote after they saw that. you need to release out medical

information and he did not. the decision is made not by you or me or other guest, it's made by the people of pennsylvania. they are made without representation. they made that decision and they will have to live with it. >> a lot of interviews that fetterman did. people can make up their own minds. she got criticized. >> we should have all of our thoughts and prayers and feelings wrapped around the senator at this point. we should be responsible and how we talk about this and recognize people dealing with these issues across the country. know that the people of pennsylvania made their voice loud and proud. they still stand behind him. >> it's a difficult situation and we wish him well. thank you so much for joining us. still to come. msnbc host criticized for

chewing out hillary. the buzz beater is next. ♪

>> time now for the buzz beater. let's go. former host says back in 2014 she offered a pretty negative take on candidate hillary clinton. >> she sold out to wall street. people are going to hate this lady. the terrible candidate for the moment. please don't run. >> then she told podcast or joe rogan she got scolded by network executives. >> next time you do any commentary on hillary clinton it has to get approved by the president of the network. >> so much about what you have to say about certain democrats.

a commentator at msnbc. american taxpayers subsidizing a global information index. this same doubt blacklisting conservative media organizations according to the washington examiner the national endowment for the humanities took $345,000 from our state department and gave it to this british misinformation group and it blacklists includes examiner themselves the federalist oa and newsmax daily wire reason in the new york post. seriously, could it be any more biased? they want them to be aware of the risks of spending money on these dangerous sites. in other words pushing for a boycott. lobbying to stop the disinformation outfit with jim jordan tweeting wise is state department using your tax dollars to find out this information tracking group secretly trying to defund conservative media. we showed you last week help police in east policy ohio

outrageously -- evan lambert four trying to cover a press conference and then blamed him for provoking a physical confrontation. guess what, the charges were dropped in ohio attorney general says a reporter was lawfully present at a press conference called by the governor of the state. lambert now says to all those that have shared the video of the harassment and excessive force and unjust and illegal arrest i thank you. i am still processing what was a dramatic event for me in the context of a time where we are hyperaware of how frequently some police interactions with people of color can end their much worse circumstances. that is not lost on me. lambert was just attempting to cover the governor's update on the derailment of a train filled with toxic chemicals. an environmental disaster that has residents drinking bottled water. lambert says maybe his ordeal will bring more attention to the crisis. new york times text columnist kevin roos is now a bit

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receiving hospice care at home for his final days. carter is deemed a failure for only serving one term and iran staffers hostages and olding them for -- holding them for 444 days and he carried his own bags to neutralize the imperil presidency and the israeli egyptian peace and camp david for two weeks to ma'amer it out. carter was an excellent ex-president building homes with his habitat for humanity. i once interviewed him and asked him whether his boat was attacked baso-called killer rabbit as his press secretary suggested. >> how much truth was there in that? >> well, the basic story was true that jodie powell told but i don't know what jodie told in the middle of the night in a bar after a lot of drinking. >> president carter has a good

heart and best wishes to his family at this difficult time. that's it for this edition of media buzz. i'm howard kurt and subscribe to my podcast and we're able to have the mental health discussion regardless on where you are for john fetterman and no uf os shot down during our hour. back here next sunday. >> we begin with lingering health concerns in ohio where some residents say they are still feeling the effects of the chemical spill after train derailed in east palestine two weeks ago. the rail company ceo returned to the epicenter of the toxic crash yesterday promising to help with the cleanup and telling residents there "i'm terribly sorry". hello, everyone. i'