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and may god bless the heroes of ukraine and all those that defend freedom around the world. thank you, poland, thank you, thank you, thank you for what you are doing. god bless you all. [cheers and applause] >> that was president biden in poland after his meeting with president duda. we heard from the president of the united states. they only understand one word. why was putin given a pipeline from in order stream ii. this is "outnumbered." i'm kayleigh mcenany. also joining us political scientist lauren wright and the host of making money on fox business charles payne. harris, i want to start there. ought congratulates only understand one word, no. ukrainians called the in order stream nord stream pipeline a
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win. why was a pipeline given to russia. >> no foreign policy. with all the billions of american taxpayers dollars we be told what the endgame is. now we have a dual problem. china is willing to help weapons on the ground in russia. that becomes another place that we have not told no to. we didn't tell them no, we waited until the spy craft from china reached the shores of south carolina and then we shot it down. we didn't tell them no when it was on its way here and knew it was packing a payload. we knew our transmissions were not able to jam some of their transmissions from what scientists were telling us at the time. we didn't tell them no. by the way, putin's military,
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chinese military are no longer talking to the pentagon. why don't we say no? that's now how it will work. we are the power in the free world. it is us. biden said he had to bring together more than 50 countries. why is it always just us? i know the role they play but we can't use the word no. one of the first things a 2-year-old learns. >> we didn't tell china no on the spy balloon until he went across the united states. charles, we're not telling china no when it comes to some points we could be using to be competitive rather than c cong congenial. the administration continues to sit on a list of competitive actions against china. compare that with the trump add minis ministration, 22 --
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>> the press conference after the balloon thing. we aren't apologizing. no, you are. everyone can see right through it. since then all the headlines have been biden is reaching out. he said we're reaching out and sounds to me like they've called and done everything and xi won't answer the phone. how does china float a surveillance balloon over the united states over nuclear military bases for a week, gather all this data in your point and they are the victims and have the nerve to be upset with america and we beg them please come back to the table. >> harris: they know who they are and we're having an identity crisis. >> here is the problem with that.
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the only time i see president biden get tough is when he goes against the maga crowd, other americans. north korea fire off icbms over the weekend. no one talks about it. i do believe if president trump was in office it would be a kind of news story we would hear more about. what is happening in iran. now what's really happening is the reconstitution of the russia, brazil and other nations petitioning to be part of it. there are some things happening right now that beneath the surface, the big shifts that we have to make sure don't fall apart or everything will fall apart. >> the other line that stood out to me this war was never a necessity but a tragedy. it was an avoidable tragedy. to your point about the trump administration. i maintain this wouldn't have happened. we saw crimea taken in the obama years and now exerting force and trying to redraw the map again.
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comeality -- >> peace is maintained by having strong defense and being unequivocal and strong about using offense when necessary. peace is maintained by not capitulateing to the enemies and why under your prior boss's administration we saw no invasions. there were no dips into the southern airspace and global humiliation which is what is occurring now. president biden said the defense of freedom is not a day's work. it takes many. he is right. we've seen it be totally eroded under his lack of leadership. pushing further a little bit on the josh rogue an article you touched on there. he makes the point it is so obvious as china maintained on that munich stage that the world was watching that we chased them around and demanded an apology and they gave none. they said publicly we were absurd and hysterical in shooting down the balloon.
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the german conference there security conference said will you acknowledge taiwan? will you acknowledge and commit to not further escalation? they said no, we won't. that's our country and never will be their own. at every outlet that china was given to extend some type of reassurance to the globe three not the super power, the nares advertise particular super power they are. itching and clawing one step at a time to get more power they didn't. the bottom line is this administration continues to show that we don't have that strength of leadership your prior boss did. prior secretary of state pompeo did. blinken has done nothing to reassure me as a working american that my safety is in their hands. if anything it is to the contrary. >> that's right. the rogan piece. he says the biden administration came to munich courting a reset in china. the top diplomat rejected the
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overture. the evidence suggests that biden is doing the chasing. we're chasing china in the words of josh rogan. that's not something that happened in the four years prior to the biden administration. >> biden has a huge problem. that problem is there waning support. china is able to get the hands in the war if russia expands its territory and they will we'll be in a different conflict. hopefully not in poland or romania but places we're pledged to defend. a disaster. the word ought to be leadership and strength as everyone is saying, take a page out of reagan's 1983 playbook. build up the military when russia's economy is suffering so much and you make a big demonstration that we're not going to back down but there are very few options, one you have a
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nuclear warfare conversation and that's really scary to a lot of americans. this he don't know how they feel about this. >> harris: hit them where it counts. they own so much of our debt. they don't survive if we don't buy all of those products. that they make in china. why don't we start to put more -- the president says more sanctions are coming. can there ever be any specificity with this administration? what does that even mean? what does it even look like? keeping it a secret doesn't help us win. we don't know who we are right now. apparently we want to engage in what we export the most of, fame, we want to be popular and gives a speech but he won't go to the chemical spill wasteland that we have unfolding two states originating from ohio and into pennsylvania. he won't go there where americans are suffering. the communists know who they are. the communist know who they are. they embrace the fact that they are not the good guys.
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>> they suppress their people. >> they have to be strong. >> we talked about the specificity required. antony blinken threatened china with unspecified consequences in munich. our u.s. officials refused to acknowledge whether china had crossed the line that he allegedly drew. at every point, it's just talk. that means -- >> that alaska meeting where it all began, antony blinken was lectured by china about the mystic politics and crimes in our streets in america. it's amazing. the same playbook. here we are, or go years. new york city mayor eric adams did not rule out the welcome mat for ron desantis. the mayor's rather sarcastic tweet to the florida governor and how ron desantis' team fired back. just the three of us girls. i never thought twice about feeding her kibble.
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>> new york city mayor eric adams taking a swipe at a possible presidential contender ron desantis as he kicked off his pro police tour in democratic-led cities. desantis was in new york where crime is skyrocketing and railed against woke policies like bail reform that make the job of law enforcement even harder h here. eric adams tweeted "welcome to nyc, governor desantis, where we do not ban books, and d discriminate against or lgbtq me neighbors, use asylum-seekers as props, or let the government stand between a woman and health care. were happy to teach you something about values while you are here."
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ron desantis shot back, "you've talked accurately about crime pushing people out of nyc. nice rhetoric. but here's the reality, more americans fled nyc than any other metro area last year. more americans moved to florida than any other state. florida's crime rate meanwhile is at a 50-year low. maybe it's you who can learn from ron desantis." that's what we call a m mic dro, kayleigh. several flips happened, the closest governor race in new york since 1994, he only had the democratic governor winning by six points. meanwhile, going down to florida as new york started trending red, desantis won's election by nearly 20 points. not only that, he won miami-dade by 10.
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hispanics by 13 points, women by 15, suburban voters by 15. as new york mayor adams, you lost a big part of it politically. you had a historic election down in florida. there is a report card. sorry, you lost. >> the attempted zinger sound bites from the left is that you can always absolutely obliterate them with facts. kayleigh did, of course. we don't use asylum-seekers as props, really? you're a member when he spent remember when he spent a night with migrant workers? >> guess who said this. new york city's criminal justice system is turning into a laughingstock of our entire country. i am laser focused on the shooters, praising the cops.
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making arrests and then demanding that the other team must do their part, meaning the prosecutor's. that was june 6th, 2022, just last year, that was mayor adams. former republican for many years. he's willing to look at the facts as long as they're coming out of his mouth. he can't figure out how to fix any of that. we are still a laughingstock when it comes to crime. i am not laughing, and crying about it. it's sad seeing people beaten to their lives in the subway sy system. >> it's very scary. here are some inconvenient truths, orlando has a very high crime rate two. 50% higher than new york right now. miami, very comparable with a republican mayor. these things are not that simple but i get the strategy. the strategy is support police, come here, come to florida, we will support you and that's a slam-dunk politically. but once you get into the facts, there are problems on both si
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sides. >> we have to dig down deeper into the types of crime. carjackings, that's always a slippery slope. one on one type of crime, potentially. but we are talking about people being beaten as they are walking in the buoy system. not crime for any crimes sake, you have to take a look at what those crimes look like and what that means for the citizenry. it's all over the place. there are 8 million people and on any given day, even sunday, different than the types of crime you are looking at. but crime is crime. if it's in your neighborhood -- he's got some popular policies. murders are down 11% year-over-year. he would say, not that i am eric adams' advocate but he would say look, i've been doing some of these things that you want but it's taking a long time. that's not satisfying.
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>> that rebuttal, the mic drop. a place where you don't ban books. you might as well ban them in new york city because our kids can't read. what the heck good art books in the first place? lgbtq -- first minute they get, they are off to florida. they leave new york for florida every weekend. they will slip out on a friday and come back on a saturday. are you kidding me? this is a great, big, spooky place. asylum-seekers? democrats should be embarrassed. they tell the world get here come across that border and we've got your back. they go to the richest places in america, new york city, martha's vineyard, we can afford them. we are clutching our pearls, how dare they send these people up here. you've got a lot more money than these border towns. keep telling the world, you roll out the red carpet, rough
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terrain, terrible weather, daughters are getting raped, you put this advertising out. asylum-seekers, political props customer at the democrats own this, >> kayleigh: that was a me drop. >> and a homeless nightmare so i will just say that out. >> emily: when you talk about the successful strategy of mayor adams, he argued the successful strategy is coming up of ron desantis that enforce the laws on the books, support law enforcement and don't have crimes that we call them violent anymore. because i consider stocking violent. mayor adams under his watch, this criminal code does not. >> harris: the mayor's, i mean, there is a republican governor that can do so much. what kind of teamwork is happening down there? i want to take a closer look. >> emily: want you to keep it
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threshold. they've done that. then it goes to the governor. and that has got to be put on the ballot. it makes it to the pilot and the people decide to. what do you think your chances are? >> kayleigh: the constituents are tired of her. they are sick and tired and exhausted of her decisions flying in the face of her commitment to serve them. remember, her staff and security fly economy class and she said it was for her safety and she said it was because she was a black woman. do you remember that? >> harris: race protection. >> emily: her trip to france with thousands and thousands of dollars, she lives rent free and $3,000 a month apartment on a taxpayer's dime. what do they have to show for it? after she flipped everyone off at that parade, five people under her watch, or leadership shot to death including a young girl. so, i see everyone there sick of
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the antics as well as we and chances of survival politically are good. >> harris: lauren, couple of weeks ago you covered mayor cantrell asking, begging for federal help. she said, "all hands on deck." the defunding the police movement there an actual cutting the budget, you can't hire back the experience that you let go. she was in a desperate situation. her answer back though was flipping burgers. >> i mean, she should be out. i don't think she is going anywhere. she won 65% of the vote. we just did this in my home state of california and the poster child of unpopular covid lockdowns. this is a problem in a city that has democratic peer they might end up with her even though shes failing on all these different metrics whether policy or personal.
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>> harris: that sounds like a bad trend. >> kayleigh: we have seen successful recall. i agree it's an uphill battle. but i would hope voters would to emily's point, use the tax payer dollars $30,000 for a first class and the city council demanding to pay it back. she is pegging it back apparently. this apartment is apparently 3 miles from her home. so why are you saying rent free apartment when your home is a few streets down? voters don't like that kind of elitism. maybe it is a game changer here. i'm not holding my breath because this is a very, very -- >> emily: she is under investigation. it might not be exclusively the voters with the referendum on her and the investigation conclusions. >> charles: we've seen this movie before. usually, as this in place dictation goes on, we never know what's going to go on. i'm not surprised. i'm not surprised. i do want to know a couple of
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things, the $30 $30,000, to fly first class. is this one that comes and picks you up out of your seat? [laughter] i mean, this is a luxury, right? i'm thinking like, you know, this is superstar luxury. >> harris: you remember that show called "making money" you know you've been in a seat like this. >> charles: $30,000? that is first-class to dubai in a cabin. so, i have one bid of a vice in one word i want to share with the mayor. feeling sorrow and remorse for proper objectionable behavior and actions. that is all. learned that word, megastores $30,000. to be when i see a trend here. i do. >> charles: it is a shame. i mean, really, this is the folks that say what we need unlimited welfare. we need guaranteed income.
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all these sort of programs and ultimately they put themselves on a level that if you are a democrat and vote for this, you get the governor and the mayor in this case that you deserve. >> harris: where you started in california, with gavin newsom appearance before the french laundry, people can't go well and that is as bad as it gets. >> charles: speaking of $30,000. [overlapping voices] >> harris: i don't know. south park just did a parody of prince harry and meghan. but the royal couple did not think it was funny. now they want to sue? >> charles: i like your sound effects. ♪ ♪ g all your financial choices together
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♪ ♪ [chanting: we want privacy] [laughter] >> kayleigh: oh, boy, we want privacy. south park with their demands for privacy. and now they spark legal action pure the royal commentary tells fox that the pair is watching the animated series closely for more attacks and they may sue over them.
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last week's episode with the prince and princess of canada, the royal couple who as you can see from a striking resemblance to harry and meghan. megan mark webb said as depiction of a sorority girl, actress, and victim. emily. >> emily: good job all on her own for treating herself as a victim, sorority girl, everything. well, frankly, the laws are in the favor and down this road enough times. so i'm sure they would not put anything on air unless it is ironclad. the larger part, however, harry and meghan's reaction to perceived fight in the public forum despite, look at me, no, don't look at me. then they sue when they don't like what is happening. and we saw the british course when she conveniently forgot that she actually worked with a british tabloid in publishing a journal. and she called it an
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infringement that she had forgotten. that embarrassment is difficult to overcome. again, don't start what you can't finish, especially in this country. and i know, remember in 1957, dared to question queen elizabeth and actually led to say, what can i do better? let me listen here instead of taking offense, and knee-jerk suing and maybe they should listen to the criticism and get over themselves. >> kayleigh: "south park" said they were not worried. >> lauren: i will refer to legal minds on the couch but i thought this was hilarious. i don't know if that is just me but i watch the whole show, that reflects on me in that regard but one of the issues is they have more control over the other format and now it is a comedy, a joke, but it seems like a lot of people, i mean, aren't bothered by this and don't see it and in the show, the writers said they
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were canadian royalty, so it didn't make it explicitly about harry and meghan appeared maybe that helps legally. >> kayleigh: i think it is very clear. but to your point, the criticism and the press pretty well, you have to be able to deal with that. >> harris: for a while they were canadian royalty. and they fluctuated from the royal family. they try to be there as part of the netflix series, there was a lot in it, right? but i just don't care that much about harry and meghan. i don't know, a lot of people do. "south park," i like the show. i don't know. they were gazing to that extent is boring to me. i don't like watching other people -- as emily said to commit it's all about them and they want people to look at them. when you look too much and see the truth, then they don't want them to look at them anymore. i don't think you can pick and choose.
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you put yourself out there. people certainly not on that caliber. but what are they looking for? not everybody is going to appreciate what they are doing. that is called freedom of choice. if you don't like freedom, don't look somewhere else. >> kayleigh: we have this other freedom called freedom of speech and prince harry has a problem with this. watch this. >> i have sort of gone down this matter because that is a huge matter for a short period of time. more created to protect people, right? that's how i see it. as i don't understand it. it is bonkers. >> harris: he won the war. they wanted us but didn't get it. >> charles: i am confused on the first amendment is bonkers. i don't know anything about these people. every time a story comes up my walk away, turn my head and i don't have any disrespect but i go home, go to the bedroom and the tv is on.
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my wife is watching. i'm getting undressed and they have a poll whether or not meghan markle knew the first family and apparently she says she's never research them. 80% said they did not believe her. i mean, i've heard everything, they come across to me on every platform and i'm talking liberal, republican, conservative as the ultimate winners. what the hell do these guys w want? >> kayleigh: right. we want privacy but we have a book in a series, et cetera, et cetera. >> emily: go ahead. >> lauren: when you move to this country, you can't cherry pick what certain people does se capitalism, netflix and the culture here or the celeb obsessed nefarious underside that you love there in california. but when it comes to first amendment, free speech from apparently that is not okay because it's that your
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experience, expense and we are enjoying it. welcome to the club. before the numbers are in their favor. the oprah interview with 15 million viewers. biden -- so, i don't know. >> charles: people stopped to watch train wrecks in car wrecks. there is a lot going on with this one. >> harris: people are watching but it doesn't mean they like it. >> kayleigh: i watch the train wreck. i will warn you i'm a coming up parents are pushing back as even more schools all in the name of [indistinct] that is next. ♪ ♪ catchy song. so to help you remember that liberty mutual customizes your home insurance, here's a little number you'll never forget. did you know that liberty mutual custo— ♪ liberty mutual. ♪ ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ ♪ only pay for what you need. ♪ ♪ custom home insurance created for you all. ♪
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>> how will putin respond? congressman keith kellogg are here. the battle over online speech and censorship with the supreme court today. and john turley's blog. and a few thoughts what is happening online. in the case of the alex murdaugh trial, the surviving son takes the stand pure john roberts and sandra, we will see at the top of the hour for "america reports." ♪ ♪
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>> emily: more and more parents are getting furious a school to cancel on her classes in racial equity. city in california say the administrators made the enrolled advancement replacement course is not diverse enough. concerned parents are pushing back. here is what they told school board members. >> a lot of people would agree to provide the students based on their individual need, but the weight of this plan is drafted in equity and in terms of achieving people outcomes. and that is at all cost. >> emily: he represents a viewpoint many parents across the country hold.
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>> charles: i mean, we have seen this for so long. in new york city, for instance, in high school the number one high school in new york, probably number one academic high school in america. for years because so well, there have been pushed back about the kids some asian kids allowed the school. and we call that hypocrisy. and we fully embrace that we live in hypocrisy. and we were rooting for the super bowl and we like people who achieve peer at these places that are copping else, here is the problem. most of the large cities the people in charge don't have any faith in the elections. they don't think they were smart enough, so they give them water down education beginning k-12, a three year achievement and then they say, we will make it up to you. we will give you more food stamps. i mean come i've heard a presidential candidate actually run on the campaign and the platform required middle age.
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can you imagine as an american i'm going to give you a higher minimum wage? they created these sort of things in this pocket in the loop is a good feedback for the folks in power because they remain in power but it is a shame. it is criminal. it really is criminal what they have done in these places. the notion of punishing someone who achieve something as anti-american. >> harris: can i say something? every president has done things differently with education. i was really impressed by former president trump and his dedication to historically black colleges and if you will make up the gap from the political school system, that might be one of the ways to hit it. to still encourage, to get into college and educate those young people who didn't have a leg up
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to begin with. but that has not always historically been the focus or focuses of past presidents. >> charles: i was thrilled when president trump came to the rescue but this is a problem that has to begin at the beginning. >> harris: absolutely. >> charles: these kids, you have to give same rigorous instruction. you know, my granddaughter, her teacher is an asian teacher and she's the only one not asian. and she first started taking these lessons, after a certain amount of time and certain tests, they give them a match car. so came to the house one day and she had her first big test. and she failed it. and it took her back. in left. and i was so happy. i was thrilled. i was thrilled. it broke my heart. i was thrilled. a week later she cro crushed it. give the same rigorous believe that they were smart enough to do with it and give the same rigorous exams, believe in them. if you think black kids are too dumb, don't try to punish other kids for doing well. that is what is happening in the
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city's. >> kayleigh: why do we lower standards instead of raise expectations? >> charles: or train, help! just give them the curriculum. i have looked at these books where my son used to come home from school. my son was in third grade and i was helping him with homework one time and i didn't have anything. i started googling things and this one particular book he had come i discovered there were two tests here there is an easy test and a hard test. it turns out his school was doing the harder test but he went to school in new jersey and a pretty big zip code appear in but it was amazing there was a watered-down test, also possible. even if the kids are getting the same book, doesn't mean they are getting the same instruction. by the way, for a long time, you kids are getting an a, johnny got in. but he can't read! >> kayleigh: you know what we lose is the world where you have china who is offering an education so we lower the standards here.
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23 baltimore schools, not a single child, not a single child met the math standard. so we lower expectations, and we lose globally. china run circles around us. >> lauren: to answer your question, kayleigh, why do we lower the standard? that is the easy solution. the honors program, get rid of it. someone's clumsy policymaking and you can't lower standards for some people and expect it to be okay or for everyone. you know, talk about it all the time in the college admissions context. that was argument against getting rid of the s.a.t., the gre pure those are opportunities for poor kids to distinguish themselves and sometimes honors class where the poor can't distinguish themselves and they get out of these horrible circumstances that charles talks about all the time. it is a shame. >> harris: it is a part of the conversation that this is an embarrassment. so you can look at the system. >> charles: johnny is getting
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those as and water down, and you are right, the parents have to step up step up here it's been have to be in there. that is one thing the silver lining of the pandemic. they were in our house and locked down and up close and personal you got to see what they were studying. you have to be activated as a parent. you have to be extra motivated as a parent. i don't know if we see that enough. you can blame the system but i still think with it hbcu and other opportunities they become a beacon for people to rise and reach for a peer that is an important part. speed to stay with us. more "outnumbered" and just a moment. ♪ ♪ pay off your car loan. consolidate your debt with a va home loan from newday. dry skin is sensitive skin, too.
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so it's decided, we'll park even deeper into parking spaces so people think they're open. surprise. [ laughs ] [ horn honks, muffled talking ] -can't hear you, jerry. -sorry. uh, yeah, can we get a system where when someone's bike is in the shop, then we could borrow someone else's? -no! -no! or you can get a quote with america's number-one motorcycle insurer and maybe save some money while you're at it. all in favor of that. [ horn honking ] there's a lot of buttons and knobs in here. ♪♪ >> last but not least, our lightning round today. yesterday's holiday giving some
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a glimpse at a four-day work week. what would that be like? could it be the ideal? one trial shows that the switch to a shorter work week made employees happier and companies made more money. the six-month test found people were taking fewer sick days, experienced less burnout, and were less stressed out overall. one employee even explained their so-called sunday dread disappeared. >> sunday blues are real. what i loved about the study, the employee said they got all the chores and stuff done so the two rest days they could rest and be with their family, and then when they were at work they got all their stuff done, a lot of our government employees do four-10, like four days of ten hours and the same amount as those that work five days a week. >> all for it. >> kayleigh, during the pandemic, people were working from home, we did some of us here at fox and i could see the point of it for a little while. i don't know, what do you think? four days a week? >> i don't know if it's going to work in the long-term, because
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let's say you have monday off, monday becomes the bluesy day ahead of tuesday. strikes me a little too european, when i went to school at oxford for a year, everything was closed, felt like everything closed at like 3:00 p.m., 5:00 p.m., very, very early. so for convenience sake, i don't know. >> that's a good point. charles, in my head it was friday for everybody, but you cannot get anything done, everybody is gone. >> i always used to think, if i ran for president, four-day platform. i am concerned about issue productivity, though. yeah. i am. ultimately. >> i think it helps companies recruit people and especially youngsters really want the schedule now, but -- look, i -- >> the dignity of work, work is a four-letter work, and i'll tell you what, that's how we become europe. >> i'm telling you, i work with colleagues who would be outraged, they do 0 days of
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work, so i can't complain, yeah. >> speaking of work, don't miss a special edition of "making money with charles payne" "the future of work," march 9th. >> things have been changing even before the pandemic, and scary. add an a.i., i don't know what's going to happen. we may be talking about where are any jobs for anybody. >> president putin crave and lust for power will fail. >> can't be silly people, they want to deliver a strategic defeat while crawling into our strategic nuclear objects. >> when president putin ordered his tanks to roll in ukraine, he thought we would roll over. he is wrong. >> we have already started and will build up a large scale program of social and economic recovery and development of these new entities of the russian federation. >> our support for

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