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work, so i can't complain, yeah. >> speaking of work, don't miss a special edition of "making money with charles payne" "the future of work," march 9th. >> things have been changing even before the pandemic, and scary. add an a.i., i don't know what's going to happen. we may be talking about where are any jobs for anybody. >> president putin crave and lust for power will fail. >> can't be silly people, they want to deliver a strategic defeat while crawling into our strategic nuclear objects. >> when president putin ordered his tanks to roll in ukraine, he thought we would roll over. he is wrong. >> we have already started and will build up a large scale program of social and economic recovery and development of these new entities of the russian federation. >> our support for ukraine will
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not waiver. nato, and we will not tire. >> john: different victories in ukraine, military experts warn the real winner might be another nation all together, china. >> gillian: the fear is while the u.s. is preoccupied, china could be preparing to invade taiwan, catching western powers off guard. l how likely is this scenario? coming up on "america reports." >> i'm still not home, i'm not comfortable yet and i'm just -- just not sure. >> as soon as i opened my door 10:00 monday night, it was an overwhelming -- my eyes watered, it was -- my nose burned, it was hard to breathe. >> they should buy out all their houses along the track, they are never going to get their money out of them. nobody wants to live down there.
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>> john: the head of the environmental protection agency giving an update to the federal response of the toxic train derailment in ohio. residents are on edge over the future of their health and community. john roberts in washington. good tuesday to you. >> gillian: and to you as well, i'm gillian turner in for sandra smith. one official noticeably absent on the ground is transportation secretary pete buttigieg. not announced when he plans to visit the disaster site insisting he will go "when the time is right." epa officials claim all is totally fine, assuring the residents the air, soil and water supply are safe. >> john: as more time passes, locals are split what to do next. either keep up the pressure on officials and the railroad or do their best to move on.
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what's the status of the health clinic officials promised to open behind you. >> standing in front of the free health clinic they have set up. appointments today are full, john. that press conference you mentioned is underway with president biden's epa chief, the governors of both ohio and pennsylvania, of course are on the border with pennsylvania right here, earlier president biden's epa chief went to a local residence, he sampled the tap water. here is the video. >> we, i'll tell you, we believe in science, so we don't feel like we are being your guinea pig, don't mind proving to you we believe the water is safe. >> okay, appreciate that. >> here is to you. >> thank you. so much. >> congressman bill johns is at the press conference and represents the area. different options from residents how to proceed and different opinions in the small town of 4700. some are bringing suit,
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otherwise are cashing in the $1,000 checks and moving on. the head of the youth sports program thinks it's hysteria, a playoff game was canceled because the other team did not show up, they are nervous. some residents of the small town think they are still in pain. listen to some of them. >> within a minute of standing there my lungs felt irritated and my eyes, and after i went home i had a persistent headache for at least 3 or 4 hours after that. >> i've had a bloody nose since then, and i don't mean physically, but when i blow my nose blood comes out, i've had it for a week and a half now. >> john, just a few minutes ago i spoke to a local farmer. she says she's very concerned. strawberries are supposed to be harvested 3 or 4 months from now, who is going to buy them, and a lot of feed corn on her
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property, feeding the animals and also perhaps your son cheerios, john. >> john: and wondering what they were toasting when they clinked glasses drinking the water. lucas, thank you. it was a bit of an odd thing for them to do. >> gillian: the idea, right, on paper is maybe not terrible, they want to inspire confidence among the community there who is clearly very uncomfortable with the situation when it comes to the drinking water. but as you mentioned, john. >> john: typically when you clink glasses it's in celebration of something. >> gillian: seemed sel self-congratulatory. >> gillian: president biden in
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poland, announced russia is planning to drop out of a key nuclear arms control treaty with the u.s. growing concern china could bol bolster russia's invasion by providing military aid to moscow. peter doocy is live in warsaw where the president just spoke. hi, peter. >> in these remarks by the president, highly anticipated here in eastern europe, never actually specifically warned china to stay out of the ukraine war. he also did not say anything about putin's decision to suspend the russian side, the russian participation in the new start nuclear arms control treaty. >> autocrats only understand one word, no, no, no, no. no you will not take my country. no you will not take my freedom. no you will not take my future.
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>> putin and xi will meet in coming months, according to the wall street journal. foreign ministers are meeting tomorrow. administration officials on the ground in poland have been telling us that there is concern china could soon start bank rolling the russian invasion effort. for his part, putin is saying he's not the aggressor. >> i want to repeat, it's they who have started the war. we have used and are using force to stop it. >> that represents a pretty black and white difference with biden's speech. putin says he didn't start anything, biden says putin is the only one to stop things. >> the war is never a necessity, it's a tragedy. president putin chose this war. every day the war continues is his choice. he could end the war with a word. >> tonight the president did talk about difficult days ahead
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in the fight to keep ukraine out of russian hands, but his remarks, including the part where they talked about the success over the last year, doing just that, beating back the russian invasion at least partially, had the feel of a campaign rally. there were lights, there was campaign style play list, it was kind of the sort of thing that you would see on a primary night. and probably one of his biggest crowds in years anywhere, the white house tells us, 30,000. gillian. >> gillian: that's quite a crowd. peter, thank you. john. >> john: let's bring in lieutenant general keith kellogg, former security adviser to vice president mike pence, co-chairman of the center for american security and fox news contributor. general, good to see you. play a little bit more of president biden's speech in terms of whether nato will hang tough. listen here. >> doubts whether nato can
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remain unified but there should be no doubt. our support for ukraine will not waiver. nato will not be divided and we will not tire. >> john: what did you think of the speech in the overall? >> john, thanks for having me. all we are doing is pushing to the right down the road. he talks about nato being in support, united states being in support. they have to bring this war in support of ukraine to a conclusion because the longer this war goes on, it does not help ukrainians. ukrainians cannot get into a war of attrition. last another year, that's where you head. they can end this war. what putin needs to hear from president biden is an end state, and biden needs to pick up the phone and tell putin how we are going to conclude this war this year, and we can do it. and help the ukrainians end it this year. it can be done if they get the right support. there is stuff in europe right now, equipment in europe, set number 2 is sitting in europe, it was designed to defeat the
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warsaw pact and the russians, that's what the ukrainians are doing. give it to them. they don't want american support. all biden is talking about is we are in support, we are going to stay there, help you out, they are going to do it to the death of every last ukrainian. end this war, he can do it, give an end state, stand in front of the american people and what it's going to take to do this, bring them on board, defeating a strategic adversary of the united states is good for us because it allows us to pivot to the pacific, which we have been trying to pivot the last 25 years. >> john: and china is increasing belligerent and expansion to the military, that we need to pay attention as well. the president's visit to kyiv, a finger in the eye to putin, even though he was informed the president was going. >> going there is presidential,
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like president trump when he went into iraq with melania, i think the presidents should visit war zones, he needs to close the deal. just a photo op is important. i wish he had gone to ohio and the border as well, but getting there is good, but tell the american people when he comes out from poland, when he comes back to the united states, he ought to stand in front of the american people and say i've been to kyiv, i've seen what's happening there. this is why we need to stay in this fight and win it in the short-term, helping the ukrainians do that, and defeating the strategic adversary. and what does it mean, that means russia leaves ukraine. and putin an option, either force you out by the force of arms or you can leave voluntarily. it's your call. don't leave it up to putin, and leaving it up to putin, you can leave when you want to. no, you force him to leave and you use force to do it. >> john: what do you make of putin pulling out of the new start treaty, reaction to biden poking him in the eye by going
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to kyiv, is this something bigger than that, i mean, not like russia was adhering to the treaty anyway. >> it's a suspension of the treaty. it's concerning to me, if we are not sleep walking into a new cold war, we are pretty close to it. the biggest thing i'm concerned about is not the fact they are going to raise the warhead levels above 1500 warheads but inspection regime. you have 18 inspections per year, now won't have any at all. >> john: haven't had them for the last couple years anyway. >> no, it's on the books, and we could try to push them, but it's a poke back at president biden and says well, i'm suspending it. we have not tested a nuclear weapon in 31 years, you don't know what is happening in the nuclear stockpile. but i think it's another step, break of relationship between putin and biden. and you know, both of them have to sit down and talk and trump would never allow this, he's got
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to pick up the phone and call him. two leaders, the leaders of the two largest super powers in the world, they hold 90%, united states and russia together, 90% of the nuclear weapons, you've got to talk. >> john: yeah, i would think dialogue would probably be a good thing when you are brisling with that many weapons that can destroy the world many times over. appreciate it. gillian. >> gillian: high schools are eliminating honors courses in the name of equity. administrators argue a one size fits all approach is needed to close the learning gap between different groups of students. we'll talk to parents fighting back against the move. it's a battle to save education. >> john: the supreme court hearing two major cases to up end social media and make them liable for the material on their
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>> john: oral arguments at the supreme court in high stakes cases that could reshape social media. we previewed one yesterday, big tech accused of catering to isis terrorists and getting americans killed. high court considering the scope of legal liabilities with big tech companies, a law known as section 230, protects tech platforms from being held legally responsible for what the users post. moments away on when the u.s. is holding big tech accountable, but david spunt is live outside the supreme court and david,
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could the supreme court completely wipe out section 230? >> john, it is possible, though it's unlikely. they may make some change to it. arguments to go over an hour, lasted for almost three hours today, justice kagan saying she did not know if the nine justices on the court were even equipped to handle this and maybe it's something congress across the street should handle. it's possible they could take away some of the power from section 230, now, section 230 is from the communications decency act of 1996. those against it say it's ancient, it needs to be changed, gives social media companies and other digital platforms liability protection from some criminal and civil claims. the case today, john, involved google, which owns youtube. all spawns from a lawsuit involving the death of 23-year-old naomi gonzalez, american college student killed in 2015 studying in paris as
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part of an isis attack. her family sued google, twitter, and arguing three related groups were allowing extremist content from isis to be there. appeals court ruled that section 230 shielded google from the gonzalez family claims. they took it to the supreme court saying it's an algorithm, john, that ultimately is up on youtube, google, instagram and these other sites. that's why they made it to the supreme court. algorithms were a big topic of conversation, listen. >> every time anybody looks at anything on the internet there is an algorithm involved, whether it's a search engine or google site. >> still not responsible for the content of the videos or text that is transmitted. your focus is on the actual selection and recommendations. responsible that a particular item is there, but not for what
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the item says. >> and congress members from both sides of the aisle have complained, those in favor of section 230, argues facilitates true free speech, those opposed says it turns social media into more of a problem than it already is. in 2023, a similar case, we expect to get decisions in both cases from the justices by the end of june. back to you. >> john: looking forward to that, even though it's a little bit of a wait. david, thank you. gillian. >> gillian: bring in our panel in you, juan williams, fox news senior political analyst and david avella. this is call for number two, first time the justices are going to have the opportunity to review this communications decency act, section 230, since 1996. gives digital platforms immunity from criminal liability from things posted by others on their sites and apps. david, let's start with you.
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there have been bipartisan calls to limit or scale back the immunity provided in section 230. what will that do for republicans? >> you've covered this issue extensively over the last couple of years. think about this from the election perspective. are we a better country as we continue as we did in 2016, and 2020, and 2022, where we had government agencies influencing those creating those algorithm, and having an impact on what was deemed as acceptable and what could be put up. are we a better country for that. are we a better country if a trial lawyer could go get some plaintiffs and sue a republican candidate for what they said online, which then would make the social media companies less likely to put content of republican candidates up. and do we really need to give trial lawyers a way to make more money to fund democratic candidates to help get them
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elected. almost every one of those cases the answer is no. so if you are a conservative justice seeking to protect free speech, it would seem logical that you would be for protecting free speech and not overturning 230. >> gillian: juan, a lot of folks point out it is sort of defies even coincidence, that the supreme court long last is going to take the series of cases in the wake of elon musk's twitter takeover. what do you say? >> i think that's a coincidence. i do -- to me, obviously there's a young woman who died as a result of the kind of radicalization propaganda spread via youtube. >> gillian: eight years ago. >> that's why her parents are in court, yes, and why it's there now. elon musk is more recent, gillian. i was listening to david and thinking to myself, i think
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people across the political aisle can agree that there is a problem. there's a need to somewhat regulate propaganda, radical, even violent pornography and things that we just saw last week, there was a report about young girls being suicidal, depressed as a result of so much of the kind of toxic content that's promoted on social media. so i think we can agree across the political lines on that. david's concern is that hey, it might come down that in a political context like 2016, some of the things that president, then candidate trump had to say online might be moderated by a social media company afraid that someone else might say well, this isn't true. well, to my mind, we have to make some decisions here because it's the wild wild west at the moment and i think it's very damaging, disinformation, misinformation, outright lies
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that are being spread in our society by social media. >> gillian: david, juan is right, it is the wild west out in cyberspace and we are operating or congress is operating and therefore the american people under a set of laws that were drafted 30 years ago when online technology was in its very infancy. section 230 was drafted to encourage more people to get online and start interacting and setting up websites. that's no longer a problem. >> throughout our history we have had to deal with this. content produced in papers, to contents produced in newspapers, to content that was put on television or p ut on radio. in every one of those cases the answer has been capitalism and getting more competition into the market. right now it's google and facebook, but as other social media outlets start coming on
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board and they start producing content, then you start having that debate of ideas. americans can go to one, more than one source just as they can now, whether that be through tv or, though they should stay on fox. >> gillian: obviously. >> different newspapers they can go to, different radio stations they can listen to. the key here is a free market that allows other competitors in the social media world to be successful. so americans can go to multiple sites. now, it may result in a current environment where conservatives go to their outlets and progressives go to their outlets. it may not do much for the polarization of the country, but the key for getting more content is more capitalism. >> gillian: juan, don't hate me, i'm told we have to go to break. i owe you one, i'll pick it up for you next time, i promise. >> you've got it.
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>> john: alec murdaugh's defense team taking the lead, and they got to hear from murdaugh's only living son as the defense tries to make in-roads among circumstantial evidence. jonna will join us next. >> sandra: and the potential challengers lining up o n the republican slate. >> a lot of parties, once they settle on a nominee, they go with them. thus far he's been successful at keeping other people out of the race. we switched to liberty mutual and saved $652. they customize your car insurance, so you only pay for what you need. with the money we saved, we thought we'd try electric unicycles. whoa! careful, babe! saving was definitely easier. hey babe, i think i got it! it's actually... whooooa! ok, show-off! help! oh!
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calling buster to the stand, testifying in support of his dad who is currently on trial for the killings. charles watson is following the story. what did the defense begin with today? >> yeah, gillian, questions about buster murdaugh's relationship with his family. he said things were good, and he categorized the family's relationship as close knit. as his testimony went on, you really saw the defense really try to poke holes in the prosecution's theory that alec killed his wife maggie and son paul with the missing shotgun and ar-style rifle, similar to firearms investigators seized from the family property. buster said they often went hunting, so not unusual for them to go missing from the gun room. >> left them in a golf cart, left them in a truck, and guns would just not always find their way back to the gun room.
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>> how about paul. how was he with securing guns? >> not good. >> buster also testified the calls and texts alec made to maggie and paul on the day of the murder were not out of the ordinary, highlighted the communications. prosecution said the calls to the wife and son after the murder were solely to establish an alibi. during cross, they said he was trying to distract attention from millions he stole from the law firm and from the family of 19-year-old mallory beach after a boating accident in 2019. buster said he had no indication anything was wrong about his father's financial issues. >> as far as you knew, financially the family was sound. >> yes, sir.
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>> earlier in court buster also testified to an interview his father did with sled, the prosecution said they heard him say i did them so bad, he testified he heard they did him so bad. >> john: jonna spilbor, when they played the recording in court for buster murdaugh, he said that alec, his father said they did him so bad, other people have testified for the prosecution that murdaugh said i did him so bad in the second interview with police. how much weight will it carry a guy who lost his brother and his mother in two gruesome murders is testifying on behalf of his
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father? >> well, we would expect buster to want to help his father. buster is the ultimate victim here, lost his mom, and brother in a horrific way and his father is on trial basically for his life. so you have to have sympathy for buster murdaugh. a good witness to kick off the defense case with, even though there were two prior witnesses, because you can't attack him. if you are the prosecution, there's nothing you can do or say to really go after buster because you would look like big unsympathetic jerk. he was a good witness to humanize his father a and corroborate. i think it was impressive and
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jury probably resonated with his testimony. >> john: the prosecution tried to say alec did not show remorse the night of the murders when he was talking to police. buster seemed to contradict that in this exchange. >> his demeanor, he was destroyed, heart broken, i walked in the door and saw him and gave him a hug and just -- just broken down. >> could he speak? >> not really. >> was he crying? >> yes, sir. >> john: that contradicts the prosecution, saying my dad was distraught over the murders. >> again, he really humanized him. the other interesting thing, we have noticed during the trial that alec murdaugh gets emotional when they overly describe the gruesome and graphic details of the murders, he rocks, he cries. listening to his son buster testify, he had almost this like
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angelic, warming dad face on, and that's not getting lost on the jurors. the jurors are going to look at his expressions during the various testimony and decide for themselves whether he is an actual human being incapable of committing these murders or whether he's a monster and today, just watching his face, he came across as a loving dad. again, another i think the defense is scoring points already with buster's testimony. >> john: and let's not forget that alec murdaugh hired a guy to kill him so buster could cash in on a $10 million life insurance policy. that's either intense family devotion and loyalty or that's just plain weird. which way do you think the jury is going to look at it? >> i think maybe the jury could look at it both ways. you have to ask yourself, how much is all this going to weigh
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on the jury. is it motive enough. when i talk to lay people following the trial, they say to me the motive is not there, the motive does not make sense and if the motive does not make sense jurors will have a hard time connecting those dots and coming up with a unanimous guilty verdict. and i think that makes a lot of sense. you have to remember the people in the jury box are lay people, too. >> john: all it takes is one and reasonable doubt is cast. you have to wonder, though, why, if buster thought his dad killed his mother and his brother, why he would ever defend him, even if he knew he would lose his family if the father went to jail. it's devotion or just plain weird. great to talk to you. >> gillian: rising interest rates combined with higher prices, pushing people higher
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than the 2008 crisis. talks to try to rein in government spending. >> john: holding a second hearing in arizona on the border crisis, why are house democrats fuming and talking about boycotting. brandon judd has thoughts on that and coming up next. >> empowered the cartels to no point in history. able to chew a lot more off operationally based on the amount of wealth that we have allowed them to accumulate over the past two and a half years.
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pick-up zone for trafficking for human smuggling. >> they told us it was fentanyl that took his life, i was utterly shocked. it's getting into the country easily, shipped here, coming over the border. >> we can use the whole government, the treasury, the military, the law enforcement, everything to shut off the supply. >> gillian: that's border residents now sounding off blaming border policies for the deaths of their loved ones due to fentanyl. influx of migrants from latin and south america is expanding to the northern u.s. frontier. republicans will go to the southern border to hold a field hearing on the humanitarian disaster down south as well as the fentanyl epidemic. democrats plan to boycott entirely, they say republicans did not consult them about it beforehand, something republicans deny. brandon judd, president of the national border patrol council. brandon, take a look at this. these are some stats on this
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emerging northern border surge. swanton sector for fiscal year 2023, illegal crossings surge by 846%. talk to me about this. is it a new phenomenon or has this been building but largely obstructed from view because everybody is so preoccupied with the southern border crisis? >> there's always ebs and flows. it shows the dynamics of the cartels. they know how they need to operate, where to go, how to generate profit. whether its on the southwest border, whether it's coastal border in florida, whether it's the northern border, longest continuous land border in the entire world. they know what to do to generate profit that's what they are going to do, even if it means putting so many people in danger by crossing through some of the most harshest terrain during the winter times. this is really, really dangerous and the cartels understand that, but they also understand they don't care, they just want to make the profit. this has been going on for a long time, but it's coming under
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a microscope now because of all the deployments to the southwest border. we have pulled so many agents off the northern border it has allowed the cartels to go up there and generate the profit they need. we can't rob peter to pay paul. can't play whack a mole, we have to look at a holistic approach. the administration has failed to do. >> gillian: the surge in resources to the southern border has created a weak point and that's the border the united states shares with canada, essentially. where are those folks coming from, what countries? >> all over, all over the world. the farther from mexico, the more it is they're going to pay. but look at canada and look at the ease of coming into canada as long as you are not on the terrorist watch list, anybody can fly into canada. get the visa and work down to the border with the united states. and then cross the border illegally. and that's what the cartels are facilitatings, they go
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throughout the world and advertise their services. whether it's the southwest border or the northern border. just depends on cost and how much people are willing to pay. if they are willing to pay more money, they will go through canada. want to pay less, they are going to come up through mexico, and that's the vacuum created. >> gillian: i want to make sure i understand you correctly. the same system smuggling people and drugs across the southern border perpetrating this at the northern border? >> yeah, these are now transnational criminal organizations. don't just operate in mexico. they operate here in the united states as well. operate throughout the entire world. operating in canada and that's why we are seeing this influx. >> all right, brandon, we have to leave it there. thanks for taking time with us this afternoon. >> thank you, gillian, appreciate it. >> john: parents fighting a trend spreading from one state to another. schools dropping honors classes to promote racial equity. parents are fighting back to
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>> gillian: check your pockets. you could have a penny worth big, big bucks. turns out some rare old coins have been stamped twice during the minting process and put into circulation accidentally have been selling for thousands of dollars apiece. case in point, a double dye penny with severe doubling of letters that sold recently for a million bucks. john, this makes me think about my mother's father, maternal grandfather was a big u.s. coin collector. stuff that went back like 100 years. we got to go through the collection. i think my brother has it. >> john: what i don't understand, if you wanted a coin, wouldn't you want a
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pristine coin? >> gillian: i'm no expert. my understanding the anomalies that make money of any kind. thank you, john, i think. >> john: wherever you go, parents want their kids to get a good education but keeps getting harder and schools across the country push to eliminate advanced honors classes all in the name of racial equity. lydia hu reporting for fox business. culver city, california, the latest place to make the move. what are parents there saying? >> hey there, john, they are outraged and a lot of concerns to eliminate honors courses from the high school. they passed a resolution that said african american and black students are consistently under represented and gifted and talented education programming, honors and a.p. courses and went on to write that in 2022, opportunity gaps led to over half of school district african american and black students not
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meeting the state's english language arts standard and three-quarters of african american and black students not meeting the math standard. parents all agreed that the achievement gaps are a problem. but parents also say eliminating classes for high achieving students does not help encourage all students, watch. >> eliminating the honors courses, and of course one in this case are the a.p. courses, so it's disempowering the students, they cannot perform as well when they go in the a.p. courses. >> culver city is the latest to drop honors classes in the name of equity. a number of other school districts have made similar moves, but also many have reversed course after outrage from parents. honors courses reinstated in places like san diego, barrington, rhode island, madison, wisconsin and here, big apple, new york city. parents in culver city have
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started a petition, they want the school district to pause the elimination of honors courses. hear their concerns and consider alternatives. >> john: lydia, thank you. >> gillian: new at 2:00, president biden and vladimir putin raised the stakes in duelling speeches. concern here in washington is growing that beijing may bail out moscow in the stalled invasion of ukraine. mike lawler is here to talk about whether president biden struck the right tone in his message to putin as well as xi jinping. plus, james freeman, george washington university law professor, jonathan turley, and st more coming up. nancial freedom. we're proud to serve people everywhere, in investing for the retirement they envision.
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♪ its how you hide a little lie, a little lie ♪ >> john: remember the biden administration mary poppins of disinformation. even though she got the boot, this one might have slid under your radar, it did not come with a song. >> gillian: i had forgotten about that, thank you for the reminder, john. state department is helping to bank roll a disinformation index. black lists certain conservative websites to defund and shut them down completely. >> john: jonathan turley says it's a far larger censorship than the biden administration never made public. see if it could uncover even more. welcome back as "america reports" rolls into a second hour. you had forgot ben that? >> gillian: i
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