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bombers, biden and blinken are hoping for with their recent trips to ukraine and eastern europe. biden's presence there, when he wasn't tripping up stairs was meant to bull sur and resure the people of the region. funding a proxy war against russia with tens of billions of dollars in u.s. aid is one thing. but by actually showing up there he wanted the world to know that he's making a personal commitment to ukraine. >> our commitment is to the people of ukraine, and the future of ukraine. there should be no doubt, our support for ukraine will not waiver. >> america stands with you, and the world stands with you. kyiv has captured a part of my heart, i must say. >> laura: well, biden and his entourage showed up in ukraine and then in poland again because they want everyone to know they're going to do whatever it takes. and they relish the role of being europe's protector. but what about being america's

protector once in a while. does he care about playing that role? not so much. the policiess in the biden administration has made our families poorer and our streets more dangerous. i entertain is still eating into savings and retirement accounts. and when a crisis happens right here at home that they find kind of commitically inconvenient, well, they just don't show up. >> do you have any plans to visit the border? >> i'm here in guatemala today. at some point. you know, we are going to the border. we've been to the border. >> you haven't been to the border. >> and i haven't been to europe: i mean, i don't understand the.that you're making. >> laura: then when they finally do show up it's all carefully choreographed and far away from those inconvenient truths. >> president biden did not appear to meet or actually see any migrants there, including as he visited a migrant aid center, so everyone asked the white house why that was, the white

house said well there was no migrants there at the time. that's your reporting rosa that those migrants were there. the president didn't interact with any of them? >> no, he did not. >> laura: well, even the best laid plans do fall apart. >> border patrol agents confronting their boss in texas during a visit by homeland security secretary alejandro mayorkas. he was in the room when border patrol chief raul ortiz told him morale is at an all-time low. >> laura: they're failing to show up and solve the problem at the border. it's so damaging now that illegals are even coming across our northern border. have you seen how cold it is in montana and the dakotas tonight? yeah, they're still coming across. well, first and foremost, our president, members of his cabinet, are supposed to be there to protect our interests, our borders, our economy. but to be an effective

protector, you actually have to really love what you're protecting. and you have to be competent. and, yes, you have to show up. which is why biden's absence in yo ohio speaks volumes. they don't love the community that little east palestine represents. they're working class mostly white more traditional not a lot of diversity equity and inclusion there. remember biden's the same guy who just a week ago accused americans of still wanting to lynch african americans. to have a figure head president whose senior staff loathes at least half the country? my friends that is an american tragedy. and if he's given a second term, they're going to spend more time worrying about what they can do for the rest of the world, and not a lot of time pretending to care about what happens here. so this represents a huge

opportunity for republicans who aren't represented, frankly, in biden's new world order at all. it also presents a massive opening for 2024 candidates who choose america over globalism. of course, trump, he gets all this better than almost anyone. and he showed up. >> we're here today in east palestine to show our love and support for our fellow americans in this hour of need, to the people of east palestine and the nearby communities in yo and pennsylvania, we have told you loud and clear, you are not forgotten. >> everybody, enjoy your meal and we're going to get the meals for the fire department. the people they're going to get a nice free meal. >> knowing full well how bad this all looks for biden, the media's only recourse was to try to ridicule the guy who was actually there to boost morale. >> today, trump visited the scene of the disaster that he helped create. >> i don't know if donald trump

would have made this trip if it weren't in as friendly trump territory. i mean, this was the way trump likes it. >> the other thing i want to point out here that advisors tried to accomplish and hope to accomplish was to make trump look presidential. >> laura: kind of snarky right? but it falls flatment it fall it is flat when people are hurting and scared. americans aren't blind. they see that biden, and, frankly many senate republicans, are happy to give a blank check to ukraine, even as they drag their feet about a disaster unfolding right here at home. this situation kind of reminds me of that old commercial. >> when you care enough to send the very best, go to hallmark. >> laura: well, three weeks after the derailment they finally sent a cabinet member. was he the best? >> you don't have a message for them? >> i do and i shared with the press many times today i refer you to those comments.

>> you want to share it with us. >> no i shared it with the press and right now i'm taking some personal time. >> laura: personal time. >> laura: is it still paternity leave. if he's the very best if he's the hall mark then i pity the people from east palestine even more. for americans crisis before addressing those of other nations, then biden's dream of a second term may start looking like this. and that's the angle. joining me now are brian and samantha scott, residents of east palestine, yo. brian, what did it mean for you today to know that president trump showed up, he made sure that supplies arrived. but president biden still has not? >> you know, a lot of people have been walking around town with their heads full of doubt and fear and feeling neglected

and i feel like trump's presence today helped reassure them that, you know, they do care, they have not been forgotten about, and it definitely helped lift the spirits and give people some peace of mind knowing that people know who we are and what's going on around here. and, you know, our president not showing up kind of did the opposite and that was causing a lot of the neglect and the feelings of doubt and fear. >> laura: well, i want to go to your wife next to you, mrs. scott, because when you think about, when you think about the delay in even acknowledging what happened, i mean, it was almost like a, kind of a casual dismissal of this just knowing that had to bring you comfort. >> so it definitely felt like a bold move for him to go to ukraine while we have all of

this going on here. i do just want to add one thing, if i could. you know, as a small town, we have really rallied together with the help and support of other local towns in our area. but the moment we let the focus shift to the political aspect, i feel we lose our voice as a community, and we don't need that right now. so we are stronger together. and division is not going to help us get the justice that our town deserves, that our residents deserve, our agriculture, our personal health. not just now but years to come. >> laura: well, brian, i understand samantha's view that, look, politics is nasty. i get it better than anyone, believe me. >> yeah. >> laura: i empathize with that. however, you do need government help. >> correct. >> laura: and everyone rallying together is a beautiful thing,

brian. >> yeah. >> laura: but when the epa administrator is urging residents to trust the science, first i want you to watch this and then react on the other side. >> i'm not second guessing their experiences, but what i can say is the water that has been tested and the air that has been tested is coming back with no adverse health impact levels. and so we can provide the data. i trust the data. i trust the science. >> laura: well, brian a lot of people reacting on line tonight are saying, well, we trusted the data on covid as well about closing the schools and so much of the other things that we were told at the time and that turned out not to be true. and so who do you trust now, brian? whom do you trust. >> i think that's where a lot of the doubt comes from and, you know, consequently it's resulting in the fear. you know, if we've learned anything over the past two years it's that we've been lied to so much, we've been told half truths very often and now it

comes to the point when you do hear something, what do you believe and what do you not believe. and i think that doubt is what's killing people with fear, we don't know who to believe, what to believe. and then that's when our safety feels at risk. >> yeah. >> laura: well, and samantha we think that is the point. we want our politicians from both parties to just give us the facts. >> right. >> laura: and then we can make decisions based on the facts that we know. but with the facts are skewed or kind of dismissed because they're inconvenient, that's what hurts people. and it hurts public trust more than anything else. at times like this, you need to trust somebody. >> yeah, right. absolutely. >> laura: and, samantha, right now, what is your message to secretary buttigieg, who will be, after these weeks, on scene there. >> i need be cautious with what i say. i don't want to paint my town in a poor image, but, you know.

>> laura: just a message. >> we are a small town. >> laura: samantha hold on, it's not -- i'm not asking you to be pejorative but he's going to be there and it's a listening tour of sorts so maybe brian do you have a message for him? he wants to listen. >> come on. come on down, you know. we're -- you don't need to be in fear of your safety. we're not a mean town. >> no. >> laura: we need our people who represent us to come down, show your face, give us your plan of action, show us that you care. >> yeah. >> make some changes. and, you know, just do your job. show up. >> laura: that's pretty simple. do your job and show up. everybody needs to hear that tonight. brian and samantha great to see both of you. we're staying on this story thank you so much. joining me now is mike davis

and jason change advice former oversight chair and fox news contributor. jason it really breaks your heart. forget the politics for a moment. when people feel like the government is working against them or doesn't even like them, where does that leave us at a time of crisis? >> yeah, these are, these are normal people, not necessarily the highest income. and their air, their water, their kids, their livelihood, the reputation of their town is all on the line. the president is in eastern europe but he's not in eastern ohio. look at his cabinet that reflects the commander chief. they take weeks for fema to show up. they take weeks for the department of transportation to show up. the disaster happened nearly three weeks ago. and these people are just now getting around and saying hey i better now show up? come on, even the ohio department of natural resources

said there were 3500 dead fish in the rivers. don't tell me mr. epa administrator that all's fine in the water when the fish are dying and the frogs are dying. do your job, show up, give those people some relief, give them some hope. and do what donald trump is doing, show up and listen and learn. that's what you've got to do. >> laura: well, and, mike, it seems like mayor pete still wants to pass the blame in ohio to the previous president. watch. >> what do you think of the former president visiting there? >> i don't know exactly what he's planning to do there, especially since his administration was anti regulation and pro industry, safety regulations and regulations that relateded to rail were either watered down or frozen in place. i do know that we have work to do that we've been underway on from day one of this situation. >> laura: mike, factually that's not accurate, justs a a

regulatory matter regarding this particular incident. >> it's just outrages. we have one president of the united states. he's been in office for two years. he could have taken a 30-minute flight from washington, dc to ohio. instead, he took an eight-hour flight to germany, and then he got in a car. and then he took a 10-hour flight to ukraine, right? so that's where his priorities are. this secretary pete is in washington, dc. they have a film of him with his husband saying he's taking personal time. it is -- we only have one secretary of transportation, and he is responsible for the federal railroad administration, which looks at railroad safety across the entire country. this is a completely awol administration. they don't give a dam about white working class americans in red states and they've made that very clear with their actions. >> laura: well, a new york times reporter, jason, had a theory about why trump showed up. maggie haberman. watch.

>> this was not a trump-plus 20 district i don't think you would be seeing him there. if this was anything that was, you know, much closer electorally. he's been looking for opportunities to put himself in the news psych. it can be very dicey when people show up when they have no actual role in a disaster. >> laura: well, jason, it is true that certain parts of the country are more welcoming of president trump than others, just like more are welcoming of biden than others. but i just don't think the criticism of what he did today -- i don't think it's really working. you saw the scott family, mr. and mrs. scott, on the show. they just want answers. >> yeah, you look at brian and you look at samantha, and you know that there are families all over. they want a ray of hope. it's -- haley barber, i remember once he said run to the sound of the sirens. and trump has the political instinct to do this. ron desantis when the hurricanes were going on, ron desantis was showing up.

all of these governors, they understand this. these past presidents understand it. but biden and his camp, democrats always get this path laura, they care more, they're more compassion ate. but it's not true i'm tired as republicans ceding that to them. don't trien tell us why donald trump went there it was the right thing to show up and i guarantee you those people appreciate it, it got attention and they will get the type of resources they need because trump was there. >> and, mike, when you see biden's passion, visible passion for ukraine, okay, there's a debate about ukraine, how much money we should give them, whether china is just going to fund the whole war and it's going to go on forever, there's a debate there. but he's passionate about it. you don't see that same level of passion for red state america in a time of crisis. >> well, you have to remember

that ukrainian oligarchs paid the biden family millions of dollars. and so maybe that's part of his passion. i think the people in east palestine yo should put ukraine flags in their yard and maybe biden would pay attention. this is a disgrace and thank god president trump went there. because if president trump did not go there, we would not see fema. we would not see the secretary of transportation. we would not see the epa doing very much. so thank you to president trump for lighting a fire under those agencies. >> laura: and you know what people needed there? they needed some smiles, too. and he brought a lot of joy a lot of people there i enjoyed watching it. panel thank you both >> a florida shooting spree leaves three dead including a child and a tv news employees covering one of the shootings. we're going to have the latest from the ground tonight. plus there's been a talk of a national divorce from blue states. but is that really the best idea to make change happen? congressman matt gaetz has an interesting point of view.

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♪ >> laura: this is a fox news alert out of orlando tonight, a suspect with a lengthy rap sheet is in custody after a shooting spree that left three dead. wofl reporter patrick perez has all the latest from the ground. patrick. >> hello laura. it has been an absolutely tragic

night here in orange county. let me walk through what exactly happened here today. earlier this morning deputies from the orange county sheriff's office responded to a neighborhood called pine hills where they found a in her 20s dead. this is a story most of us local tv reporters cover nothing out of the ordinary but hours later about 4:00 eastern they also got calls about a second shooting this time involving victims of the shooting, they were journalists with spectrum news tv as tv station here in the orlando market. both of them were shot a reporter and photographer, unfortunately one would die, and just down the block the same 19 year old suspect keith moses shot a mother and finn year old daughter. unfortunately that nine year old girl did die, she did pass away. so it's been absolutely tragic here. like you mentioned three people killed including that woman in her 20s, a tv journalist here for the orlando market and nine year old girl.

the suspect keith moses does have an extensive criminal history. he is known to the sheriff's department here, he's been charged with burglary grand theft battery, obviously will face multiple charges for what has happened here laura. >> laura: patrick, thank you for that report tonight >> now, almost every night we bring you some blue state woke horror story that is like affecting our schools, our workplaces, even our safety. and it's very frustrating to see beautiful places, like seattle and portland, chicago, descend into darkness because of bad governance. so i really empathize with the sentiment that something outside the box needs to happen to stop the madness. marjorie taylor greene a congresswoman for a few years now has called for something akin to national divorce. >> red states can choose in how they allow people to vote in

their state. what i think something red states could propose is, well, okay, if democrat voters choose to flee these blue states where they cannot tolerate the living conditions, they don't want their children taught these horrible things and they really change their mind on types of policies that they support, well, once they move to a red state, guess what? maybe you don't get to vote for five years. >> laura: okay, well, first, a law prohibiting american citizens who's not committed i crime from voting would probably not withstand legal scrutiny. and, second, how would like a national divorce be good for conservatism? now why would we want to embrace the states that gave us jimmy carter and bill clinton but give up on states that gave us reagan and trump. imagine if youngkin had given up on virginia, or if republicans on long island gave up on new york. the last thing we need is an american breakup of any sort.

remember a motto from this star almost from the start almost five years ago has been no state left behind. just because it often seems like democrats have given up on america themselves, doesn't mean ever that republicans or conservatives should. they should not. i'm certainly not willing to give up on the states that gave us sinatra, john wayne or that welcomed my grandparents from poland. there are good, hard working people in illinois, new york, and in california, washington state. who don't want no move and who are looking for new leadership. so let's give it to them. keep organizing. keep registering people to vote. get real about early voting. keep making the case that liberalism is failing everywhere it's tried. joining me now is florida congressman matt gaetz, congressman marjorie taylor greene said in her tweet we need

to separate in red states and blue states and shrink the government. everyone i talk to says this. again i understand how frustrating it is to see these states, again, descend into darkness, but do you agree with what she's saying here? >> i'm not for a national divorce but i do think the federal government should at least have to spend the night on the couch for a while. like, you know, bill clinton had to after the monica lewinsky stuff. i've been with marjorie taylor greene as we've traveled to places like california advocating for the god fearing red blooded americans who live there. and too often we see a homogenized federal workness pushed on parts of the country who don't want it. i believe that the best push back is a national renewal, not a national divorce. it's something that marjorie taylor greene is helping to inspire. but, look, we're a country that when we had the presidency, the house and the senate, we couldn't even secure the border. so i don't believe we would be

able to effectuate any type of national divorce. and i think that the politics of the america-first priorities would do a great deal to unify us. and, hey, it would be one thing, laura, to reject a national divorce more fervently if we didn't have our leaders cheating on the country with ukraine, which is what we saw from president biden recently. >> laura: but, congressman, to that point, i mean, we have lots of republicans in the senate. pretty much the entire republican leadership who, as far as i can tell, are willing for us to stay in ukraine, funding ukraine for 30, 40 years. i mean, i don't think that's what the republican electorate wants. so, i mean, we have just as much of a problem with republican leadership, to some extent, as we do with some of the democrat leadership. at least you know where democrats are, way to the left. and a lot of republicans are pretending to play conservative

when they're really on the side of china or, you know, globalization or globalism, and against their own electorate. isn't that the case? >> undeniably. and it's infuriating that in blue states, where we could have more enthusiastic candidacies and campaigns, we often nominate these rhino republicans. and right now, the only area code where funding for ukraine is universally popular is the 202 area code, because out in the country, people are wondering why we don't care more about our own sovereignty. i think it's debasing for our own leaders to go there and pay for the pension persist of ukrainian government officials while here in our country we have pension funds for our police and fire fighters that go unfunded. and when you see the extent to which we're willing to pour cash on an historically corrupt country, it is as if we have learned no lessons from the past.

like we just lost a 20-year war to goat hearders with rifles in afghanistan and now all of a sudden we're poking a nuclear power in russia where vladimir putin's like some sort of bondville and that becomes more dangerous and deranged as russia continues to lose power and influence. so we are majoring in the minors by involving ourselves excessively in this war in ukraine. we ought to raise our gaze and confront the china threat. >> laura: i've been singing the china song for, you know, 20 years, 25 years now, so i completely agree with you. but none of this is aided by a quote, national divorce. that doesn't solve any of these problems. and it's now an argument that the democrats are going to use against us in 2024 saying, well, those people want the country to be split in two. even that's not really what she's saying, but it's such an easily caricatured sentiment and

so easily distorted, that i just don't think it's really worth the bother of even making the argument. i mean, that's my point. you're just giving them a bat to hit you over the head with. >> laura: so i think marjorie taylor greene is making an invigorated argument for federalism, which i think a lot of voters would a scribe to. i don't think that it's helpful when we have democrats trying to divide us, even divide parents from their own children by pushing woke ideology in the classroom. >> laura: obviously. >> the way to make this debate constructive is for the house of representatives under republican control to use the power of the purse to defund the woke, weaponized federal government from the department of education, the department of labor, to even elements of the department of justice and the fbi, and that's where there has to be republican strideens, not just in press releases and floor speeches, but when we actually get to the debt limit and appropriations bills. and guess what? because of the fights we had in

early january, we actually have exquisite tools now to target those agents. >> laura: time to do it. >> and those bureaucrats with specific votes to defund them and defang them. >> laura: and also legislation that does have some bipartisan support like banning tik tok and renewing the trade status with china. that would shake it up. congressman great to see you and again we empathize with the frustration of marjorie taylor greene just not the solution >> don lemon is back from his cnn brain washing, sorry, sensitivity training. bus joe biden in europe, raymond arroyo has all the details in seen and unseen next.

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>> laura: it's time for seen and unseen we expose the stories thinned headlines with raymond arroyo. all right, raymond you have don lemon who's back on cnn. i was so excited because he was sidelined i understand for some unfortunate comments he made about women over 50.

>> yeah, you'll remember lemon questioned nikki haley presidential ambitions the way. >> nikki haley isn't in her prime. sorry. a woman is considered to be in her prime in her 20s and 30s and maybe 40s. >> well, the lemon is now back on air. wouldn't you love to see the female demo for that morning show. and though he apologized for those comments, laura, cnn's ceo chris licht says don is listening and learning and has agreed to participate in formal training. well, we obtained exclusively some video of don lemon's formal sensitivity training as he learns to respect women slightly over 39. >> i don't call it growing older. >> we live in a age sobsed culture. >> i missed my va va-voom. i got it back. >> there's something glorious about aging, too. >> yeah, the wisdom that you

get. >> when i hear someone saying that being a grandmother means you can't do your job? i think really then that should apply to grand fathers, don't you think? >> i'm sorry. >> well, hillary clearly sealed the deal, laura. clearly. that was the moment i think that broke him. i mean, that was a spoof but one hopes that's not too far off the mark. but to say these things about women of any age is so insulting. golden was 74 when she led israel. lady thatcher was 54 when she was the p.m. of the uk. what countries has don lemon led? >> laura: well, he seems like he's protected from any real accountability. that's just a guess. he seems like he might be a little shielded from the full accountability that certain other people will get if they

had a similar comment come out of their mouths. >> but, laura, my question is, why did it take cnn so long? they should have demanded sensitivity training after each and every new year's eve. the man has been crying out for therapy for years. i'm just glad he's getting the help he needs and hopefully we won't have to see him twerking anymore in the streets. >> laura: oh, yeah. ray mopped the sussexes are back in the headlines following that hysterically funny south park send up. >> our first guests the prince and his wife. >> we want privacy, we want privacy. >> let me start with you sir. have' lived a life with the royal family had everything huhheded to you but you say your life has been hard and now you've written all about it in your new book wahh. >> you should write a book because your family's like stupid and so are journalists. >> reports for days have

suggested that meghan markle was upset and overwhelmed by the ridicule of of the world privacy tour on south park. there were even reports of a spending lawsuit. >> laura: oh, please. >> now officially the sussex's spokesman tells us it's all frankly nonsense totally baseless boring reports they say to people magazine. i have to agree i always find them nonsense and part of the multi part documentary, they're pretty baseless and boring. >> laura: we want privacy. we want privacy. they're in paris at the eiffel tower and they're holding signs don't talk to us, hysterically funny. >> the world tour of privacy. speaking of world tours. >> laura: go ahead. >> the president continued his european tour meeting today with nato leaders and the media reaction to the entire visit has been just rapsididic.

>> historic. >> timely and brave. >> presidents have visited us troops in war zones but never like this. >> this is historic the first time a president has gone into an active war zone. >> it was bold and brave on his part. >> the swagger of this trip, not just the execution and the secrecy but the swagger of it on display in the streets of kyiv. >> well, the swagger was certainly on display for the world to see when he boarded the plane to poland today and skipped a few steps. >> laura: oh, well. >> oh, there he goes down for the count of and when he met with the polish president the swagger was back or forward or was it back. you decide. ♪ >> the irony is that one of the last conversations i had with

the -- our friend in russia. connection between poland, polish and american people is extremely strong and deep. i grew up feeling self-conscious my name didn't end up in an s-k-i. >> oh, my. >> laura: oh. >> laura, i have to tell you swagger. every time biden takes a walk on the world stage it's more like a stagger. he looks like the vertical victim who just stepped off a tilt a whirl. he never quite knows where the center is. it's sad. >> laura: raymond that kind of looks like me when i'm going up the stairs and the dog's chasing me with my stupid knee problem. that looks like me problem. >> but you have an injury. >> laura: as someone who's half polish, i would say the s-k-i comment. no. not good. that was not very nice. >> well, nobody in the room got it. and, you know, it does not

communicate strength or confidence when you're trying to bolster europe. in fact, it just strengthens and, i think, causes the guy whose name he couldn't remember over there in russia to dig in and get more determined to take ukraine. >> laura: it's good to know now putin is our friend so that's very positive. raymond i think biden should wear one of those sweat shirts and the sweat pats or kind of khakis just like zelensky. they should have a matchingout if it outfit. >> with lots of padding. >> laura: good to see you ray. jury of your peers turning out to be the jury of the weird. could it be good for donald trump. reaction to the unhinged foreman after this. i heard about the payroll tax refund that allowed us to keep the people that have been here taking care of us.

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♪ >> laura: last night we introduced you to the jury foreman of of that georgia grand jury investing president trump. or as i like to describe her, the perfect embodiment of generation tik tok. >> and everything that you've seen what would your reaction be if the da decides against bringing any charges after what you've seen? >> i would be sad if nothing happened.

i would be happy as long as something happens. >> laura: well, meet emily coors who probably considers herself very enlightened and knowledgeleable and her people probably gave her gold stars for her effort and bubbly attitude. but her media tours spilling details inside the grand jury room is not going well. >> there are grand indictments recommended. >> yes. >> is it more than 12 people? is it more than 20 people? >> i think if you look at the page numbers of the report, there's about six pages in the middle that got cut out. allow for spacing. it's not a short list. >> not a short list. would you characterize it as 20-ish people? >> i can't say i counted. >> okay. >> laura: and now cbs is reporting that lawyers close to several republican witnesses are preparing to move to quash any

possible indictments of the da based on statements ms. menza made in taker justice interviews. joining me now is attorney david schoen. david tell us how this might impact possible charges or the issuing of possible charges this case? >> an excellent question. it's a very serious effort matter. the georgia code prohibits a foreperson or any member of the special purpose grand jury from exposing what happened during deliberations. they are required to give an oath to keep things secret. so the question then is what's the remedy when the rules are violated. first of all, what's the harm. the harm is, as the courts have said in georgia when you were a special purpose grand jury there's not necessary i a trial or some airing that happens afterwards so that it allows people publicly to defend themselves when they're maligned in the report or statements from grand jury people.

but this excuse the whole process. remember, let's put it in perspective. this grand jury is a political scheme. the special purpose grand jury. it's to give the political, politically elected district attorney cover. so she queens this grand jury in a county take went 72-26 for biden in the 2020 election, so their decision is sort of a foregone conclusion. the district attorney ghost writes the report subject to the approval of these grand jurors. so the cases have said there mayer may not be some remedy when the special grand jury violates its rules because if there's an indictment, there's an intervening beganed jury to consider the indictment. but the case also left open the question when someone's constitutional rights are violated by the disclosure or misconduct then there may be a remedy. there's a 2015 case called lemmo that said no harm no foul in a sense. but it's a very serious violation and should strike at

the heart of anybody who is spay the integrity of the judicial system and the fairness. >> laura: also, there are 23 members in this special grand jury, i believe, and so she's the -- they say foreperson, i say foreman i'm not saying foreperson. she's the foreman of this jury and she goes on television and it's just an embarrassment, i mean from beginning to end. but i keep saying she's probably gotten gold stars from her teachers and probably graduated from a great school and david that's where you are on system is today. that's, you know, a's considered educated. david, thank you for your analysis tonight. very, very important. >> and bernie sanders found himself in a rather awkward spot. did he dance? the last bite will tell you, coming up.

. >> laura: bernie sanders might be the tik tok generation's hero but he doesn't seem to share same love for them. ♪

. >> laura: not even an attempted dance by bernie. come on. that's it for us tonight, don't forget set your dvr so you'll always stay connected with us. follow the latest updates on instagram and twitter and remember, it is america now and forever undivided. greg gutfeld, he takes it all from here. ♪ [cheers and applause] ♪ >> tyrus: what it is. well, i'll tell you what it is. it's the raise awareness for america fundraising marathon. yeah, i know it's a tad bit dramatic i'll admit that