will: all right, i go manhattan. i know it's not popular, it's spicy. i like it. pete: new england clam chowder. rachel: new england by a smidge. [laughter] >> you know what? i'm going to the stick with new england. [laughter] rachel: bye, everybody! [background sounds] >> the enemy is target number one. >> ukrainian officials say russian forces are now operating inside the city limits of kyiv. >> the stench of death is unbearable here. >> people won't back down. >> it's they who have started the war. >> president putin chose this war. >> i thank everyone who gives ukraine indomitability. glory to all who are now in battle. neil: it has now been a year,

think of that, a year, for a war that vladimir putin once assumed would last only days. the u.s. continues to fund the good fight, another $2 billion heading ukraine's way, but not without some growing resistance in congress and growing concern even among some nato partners and just over the last 24 hours our g20 fellow members. we'll ask ukraine's ambassador to the u.s. what she makes of all of this and whether patience is waning for all of this. she's here and only here. then, what to make of china's mixed signals on this ongoing war even as it dangles a 12-point peace plan to end the war. volodymyr zelenskyy says he would meet with xi jinping. we'll ask brigadier general patrick ryder whether that's a good idea and former defense secretary mark mark esper on why he fears china might have other

ideas. then, the young ukrainian mom who become the face of a war in her own backyard back with us. but this time elena is in a different backyard. how she got to safety and who joined her. all now, all here, all live. welcome, everybody. happy weekend, i'm neil cavuto. so much to cover told including fox on top of the ukraine war that is now entering its second year with no end in sight. let's go to lucas tomlinson at the white house on how they're marking the occasion. >> reporter: neil, you mentioned $2 billion more in weapons and ammunition going to the ukraine. it's notable what's not on the list, fighter jets. >> you don't think he needs f-16s now? >> no, he doesn't. >> is that a never? >> look, first of all, the idea that we know exactly what's going on the needed a year or two, three from now, but there is no basis upon which there is a rationale according to our

military now to provide f-16s. >> but you're not ruling it out. >> i am ruling it out for now. >> reporter: ahead of the one-year anniversary, vice president kamala harris spoke at the munich security conference. she said, quote, if putin thinks he can wait us out, he is badly mistaken. time is not on his side. washington post columnist josh row began disagrees saying the longer it goes on, the more it favors putin. ukrainian officials are worried that the biden administration's stance could undermine support for kyiv's strategy which is to accelerate the war effort now and avoid a protracted stalemate. there's also concern about what many call a proxy war expeabding. here's our colleague, peter doocy, yesterday at the white house. >> reporter: mr. president, a really quick one, mr. president. if china starts arming rush. >> that in ukraine, what are you going to do? >> you think i'd tell you -- if they did, do you think i'd announce it ahead of time? >> reporter: u.s. officials privately admit this war has

ground to a stalemate. the front lines haven't changed significantly in over four months. russian forces have suffered over 60,000 dead, that's more than the u.s. suffered in vietnam in 8 years, neil, but the ukrainians have suffered almost nearly as many casualties. neil? neil: incredible. we want to go to the ukrainian ambassador to the united states. ambassador, it's very good to see you again. how are you and your countrymen holding up through all of this when you talk to them? >> good morning, neil. well, you know, we don't have any other option. we were not the ones who started this war, but we will defend our homes and our land with everything we have. so it's difficult. the distraction has been massive. the war crimes have been horrific. and everyone, all ukrainians have someone who they either lost already in this war or know someone who was severely wounded. but we will not give up, and we will not surrender. there is no option like that for us, because we know what happens on the territories which russia

occupied. ukrainians have been killed and tortured there, so we cannot leave under occupation. neil: president zelenskyy, ambassador, has said that he would meet with china's president xi jinping on this so-called 12 the-point peace plan the chinese have -- what do you make of that? how real do you think that peace plan is? >> nobody wants piece more than ukrainians, and we have been very clear about how the peace should look like according to our opinion. and that 10-step peace formula president zelenskyy long ago suggested everyone to discuss is something that we focus on. so we will discuss it with everyone, and there could be different suggestions or different ideas. but it's very black and white, you know? russians have to stop their aggression, they have to get out from our country. they have to return our people, and all of that is described in our peace formula. so, you know, this is what we are ready to cuts.

to discuss. neil: you're many washington, so you know what the temperament is in washington right now and the fraying among what used to be universal support that that the americans had, certainly american politicians had, for the ongoing fight in ukraine and funding and helping ukraine as much as possible. but i just want to share some comments over just the past weekend, ambassador, from a number of prominent u.s. politicians who sound like they have second thoughts. i want you to react to this. >> it's the also an extreme position to give the ukrainians a blank check. so we definitely should and need transparency and accountability. >> the european members of nato need to step up, start paying their 2%. >> he's spent more time in ukraine spending hundreds of billions of collars -- dollars and some 15% of our defense spending in one country. >> going to ukraine, offering another $500 million is a huge, huge problem. neil: does that worry you,

ambassador? >> well, i feel, believe and know, and we we see it in the results that we do have support of american people. and they contribute, can and transparency is as important for us, probably even more important. so we are sending not only using all the taxpayers, american taxpayers' money very effectively and responsibly, but we're also very transparent about everything, and we're very grateful to american people for this support. and, you know, it's in both of our countries' national security priorities to show that chem the crasses can -- democracies can defeat themselves. we are fighting for the values on which america is built. so i feel that the american people support this fight. we are ready to be more transparent if necessary, we're ready for wider contributions. president zelenskyy is demanding it also from all the ukrainians, you know, the zero tolerance to corruption is something has not just words for us. but i think we together have to stay the course, and we have to win this for the sake of all of

us. neil: you know the backdrop temperature for this though is even among the g20 countries, they couldn't come out with a communique, with a final position on the war. hay just wrapped up a meeting, so it would seem to be an easy call to say that it's outrageous. but they couldn't do that. and i wonder if that worries you. >> well, look, first of all we have to continue explaining. on the one hand, 141 countries in the u.n. just couple of days ago united, were united around support for ukraine. on the other hand, we have to remember that not only for the past 30 years, but for the hundred years the world has seen our region through the lenses of russian propaganda. so we have to explain and we have to talk to people, and we have to explain that for us it's the anti-colonial war, it's the war for our freedom, that ukraine is not a second to anyone. ing we only are trying to save our people and our homes from a

brutal attack. so we'll keep working with our partners, and i'm -- i see how the support grew during this difficult year. i'm positive it will continue to grow. neil: you have been incredible through this, ambassador, as have your people. i only can because i found it interesting that yesterday germany, france and britain while they still show their loyalty to ukraine and fighting the good fight and funding and arming for that good fight, they did sort of dangle a little bit of a carrot, an incentive for you maybe. greater cooperation with nato in exchange for maybe ukraine embracing peace talks and maybe the kind of thing that china's offering. what do you think? neil: well, again, we have been very clear since ukraine regained independence that our path is european union and nato. and we worked really hard to not

only transform the country and reform the country, but also to build the alliance and to build -- to convince our friends that we can, we have a lot to offer to both european union and nato. so it's in our constitution, the majority of ukrainians support it, and we will continue doing the reforms. and you, people were saying that it's impossible for ukraine to become the candidate to european union, and look where we are. we are a candidate country already. so i think we just have to stay the course in so many areas, and right now the priority is to win, to defend our country. and then right after that we will rebuild the country and continue the reforms of the country which we are doing right now as we fight on the battlefield in peril. and i am positive that in the future ukraine will be not only member of european union, but hopefully also member of nato. neil: well, in the past here, ambassador, you and your fellow

countrymen have defied the odds and historically changed anyone's perception of the invincibility of russia. ambassador, it was an honor talking to you. thank you again. >> thank you. neil: in the meantime, i want to bounce this off of mark esper, he was donald trump's defense secretary. secretary the, you herald a little bit of what the -- heard a little bit of what the ambassador had to say about continuing to fight the good fight, but there are many in this country getting leery of that fight. not to the point where now it's reversed and more people are opposed than for. still more, much more in favor of helping ukraine than not. do you see it fraying though? >> well, you cosee some slippage in the polls which is why i've argued that president biden needs to come out more frequently and talk to the american people about what's at stake. this is a broader strategic contest, and he's spoken some about that. but then he needs to lay it out to the american people in a way that they can talk about it across their kitchen table. and that's what we haven't heard yet.

at the same time, we need leaders in congress another the same. i think republican leadership has been solid on this front. of course, the democrats have been as well. but this is about leadership, neil. st about talking to the american people about what's going on and what it means to them. neil: secretary, what do you make of china's overture here? it's sending mixed signals, the 12-point peace plan, i don't know the details, you probably co. but at the same time they're talking about potentially arming russia and certainly ahead of the visit that xi jinping plans for russia. what do you make of all that? >> first of all, it was a statement of 12 talking points they've used in the past, some of them we wouldn't disagree with such as not bombing nuclear sites and taking care of civilians and refugees and things like that. but there are a couple of onerous things in there that we would never toll late, for example, calling for an immediate ceasefire that would only benefit russia or ending unilateral sanctions. the chinese game is this: at a very broad level what they're trying to do is, first of all, burnish their credentials as

peacemakers, if you will, after years of warrior diplomacy. they know want to be peacemakers. but i think the more interesting piece of this, they recognize that russia is losing because they are, and they cannot afford to have their strategic partner lose this fight. they rely on russia for energy, they rely on russia for high ec the items, for military items, and they cannot afford to see russia fail, and i think that's at stake here for china. neil: so where this goes, i guess, is anyone's guess. but we're told that the ukraine would never, ever consider giving up an inch of ground to the russians, even extend thing it to crimea which, of course, russia had taken over years prior. is that an unsustainable position? >> no. we need to follow the lead of president zelenskyy. he's going to define what the outcome of the war is and -- neil: that's what he said his tactic is -- >> right. neil: not an inch of ground. >> right. they can win, crimea is part of

ukraine. i think there's no reason why hay can't push the russians out of donbas and southern ukraine this year if we can provide them the tanks and the mechanized vehicles, everything they've been asking for. there's two clocks at play here right now, neil. one is the clock with regard to western patience and willingness to support, and putin is counting on that to run out pretty soon. the other clock is ukraine's ability to show success on the battlefield, and that depends a whole lot on their ability to get this equipment that they need to go on the counteroffensive to break the stalemate and really push russia out. and in my view, they need to do this by july which is when the nato summit happens in lithuania and show real success on the battlefield, because that will be a key point for them this year. neil: got it. secretary, good seeing you, mark's per, former defense -- mark esper, and later we'll talk to brigadier general patrick ryder on this and why he is saying all offers to talk peace

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indeed, chemicals in the air, pollutants in the air that can cause health impacts in the long term and also said some of the pollutants that are in the air could explain the symptoms that people have been complaining about like skin rashes, headaches, nausea, things of that nature. neil? neil: mike tobin, thank you for all of that. so pete buttigieg did finally visit the town, but indications the president of the united states that he has no intention to at least anytime soon. again, as i said, if ever. how's that going down in the town? we'll talk to a resident. burger and fries...soup and salad. like your workplace benefits and retirement savings. with voya, considering all your financial choices together can help you make smarter decisions. voya. well planned. well invested. well protected. some people have minor joint pain plus stomach problems. they may not be able to take just anything for pain. that's why doctors recommend tylenol®. it won't irritate your stomach the way aleve® or even advil® or motrin® can.

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>> -- without waiting too long to express anything hours after you had addressed the makeup of

work crews on highway construction projects just that very day. >> the answer to your question is, yes. i felt strongly about this and could have expressed that sooner. again, i was taking pains to respect the role that i have and the role that i don't have, but that should not have stopped me from weighing in about how i felt about what was happening to this community. neil: well, a lot of east palestine residents, with better late than never. the transportation secretary did ultimately come to town and show his support along with those of other federal agencies and sending signals the president of the united states feels the same about making everything right and forcing norfolk southern to deal with all of this. the president, as you heard, is not intending right now to go to the town anytime soon. i wonder how that sits with andrea bedin who joins us on the phone right now. andrea, i know you have a unique situation and are dealing with stuff that happened since the

derailment, but i just did want to get your quick thoughts on what pete buttigieg is saying, that he is with you, he is with the town residents and neighboring towns, but the president, no indication right now that he's coming to visit. how do you feel about that? >> i think that's extremely sad. our former president, donald j. trump, he came to town. and right after he came to town, that's when buttigieg decided he was coming. but he's not here for politics, he's here for the work. i don't believe that. i believe that if he was here for the work, he would have been here sooner. i believe that president joe biden should come down to town. he should show that he cares about a town in his own country. neil: now, when you're told, andrea -- and i want you to sort of relate your story here, because it's unusual what you and, i think, your boyfriend are dealing with and a pet that might have died in direct relationship to this. explain a that.

>> so pretty much what has happened was we had evacuated that friday night when this all went down. our9 cat was indoors. his name was leo. he was exposed to the vinyl chloride gases from the movement from inside the house into the outside into the car. by that night he a had gotten sick. we took him to the emergency vet the next day because he hadn't improved. he stayed there for a total of four days racking up an almost $10,000 bill. it was going to be another $15-18,000 to continue his treatment to keep him alive. we had went down to norfolk southern, the resource center in new waterford, to ask for their help since i had a letter saying this was from vinyl chloride. they told me at that time that it was not an emergency. they were unwilling to help at

that moment, they would possibly entertain it in the future. neil: now, you were actually visiting your grandparents' e home, right, in east palestine, and this is where the cat was at the time. that's a mile from where this derailment occurred. and where the9 evacuation route was set up. so the cat was exposed to that, right? >> right, yeah. we were staying with them for a little while while our house was being rebuilt. we were actually less than a mile from where the derailment was, probably about an eighth of a mile. neil: where are you now? >> we're currently staying in our house that's not completely finished yet, but enough that we can stay here in east liverpool. neil: and how far is that from east palestine? >> as the crow flies, about 13 miles. neil: got it. i'm curious, andrea, when you hear local officials saying that the air contaminants are

actually quite low, if a problem at all, that the water is fine -- you saw that very, you know, played again and again video of the governor, governor mike dewine, and the epa administrator, mike regan, drinking that water, that it was safe. i don't know what the update is on well water, but that things are okay, they're okay. do you buy that? >> no. [laughter] look at the wildlife. that's your first indicator that everything is not fine. the cat died, the foxes died, chickens died. how many fish? i've heard reports of up to 40,000 fish that died from this? i don't buy it. neil: what about your grandparents? what do they plan to do? >> well, they're currently staying in east palestine because they know that they want to get back to a routine as soon as possible. we're worried for them.

neil: hang in there, andrea. this is a very sad story. keep us posted on this. a lot of things are not adding up and, again, a lot of authorities as ann drink andrea was indicating telling residents that overing's okay, but -- everything's okay, but that figure she gave you about the fish is right, actually over 45,000, a lot of animals that have since died. whether it's all linked to this explosion after the derail. , anyone's guess, but it is an odd coincidence, and they're looking into all of that. we'll keep you posted on those developments in ohio. keeping you posted right nowen on political developments as well including a big money race going on in the sunshine state. who's doing what and where, after this. get help reaching your goals with j.p. morgan wealth plan, a new tool in the chase mobile® app. use it to set and track your goals, big and small... and see how changes you make today...

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♪ neil: all right. if you're running for president or even considering it, you have to the raise money, and these days you have to raise a lot of money, so you have to go to where a lot of rich people are. no wonder that florida gets so much attention not only for the fact that florida governor ron desantis is thinking of a presidential run, but that i guess you could call him a neighbor, donald trump, already is off and running. and both fund raising at a pretty good clip including this very weekend. alexandria hoff has more from washington. >> reporter: hi, neil. yeah, declared and undeclared gop candidates seeking out new

momentum and fresh cash the week. former president trump who has embarked on his third straight run for president visited east palestine, ohio, while the florida governor, ron desantis, he hit a multistate tough on crime tour. the two of them doing a bit of traveling. the two overlap, as you mentioned, palm beach, florida. and thursday former president trump hosted the first major fundraiser for maga inc. just a few miles away from mar-a-lago, governor desantis is kicking off a weekend retreat with roughly 150 of his top donors. desantis that remained on the sidelines so far but is expected to make a decision on a rumored bid in the spring. in an interview airing tomorrow, the governor talked about some of the media criticism he has received saying, essentially, if you do bold work, do do a really good job, it makes it harder for the narratives to take hold, quote, when heir coming at you. former president trump has not been holding back my shots. he used a nick nickname that he's coined writing, florida was

doing great long before ron desanctimonious got there. people are fleeing from new york and other places because of high taxes and out of control crime, not because of governor, thanks to president trump, desanctimonious as he's calling him. only two other candidates have dethe claireed their candidacy, vivek ramaswamy and former u.n. ambassador nikki haley. haley joined possible contenders yesterday for a conference in austin. former vice president mike pence, senator tim cost and former governor chris christy. neil: we focus on the money raised because that can give us a good indication where the financial support could be. it seems to be ample for both president trump and governor desantis the, but are you hearing from the trump folks that they're concerned all the money that desantis appears to be ready and able to raise and quickly at that? >> reporter: yeah. i think there's a real concern

because this mar-a-lago event on thursday was described as an intimate event. we don't know the cash flow that went through that room, but this weekend retreat for desantis, 150 top donors, it could be a real moneymaker. meanwhile, president trump is hoping for a crowded field, it would likely benefit him in 2024 if it stays large. neil: got it. alexandria, thank you very much. charlie gasparino has been following this story closely. it's good to have you, my friend. i was talking not too long ago with another big republican fundraiser, in fact, a guy who had served as president trump's ambassador to jamaica who said he's switching sides and going with desantis because he just thinks desantis might better represent the future where republicans want to go, and he count like donald trump bad mouthing other candidates. but that was a separate issue. but the money raised kind of gets into that sort of stuff, doesn't it? >> yeah. i i mean, there's two sides to

the story. and you can see how the campaign is probably going to break down in terms of how trump is going to attack desantis. i think it's pretty fair to say if desantis runs and he wants to tap into the bundler base of donors like the big money guys, the gentleman from the ambassador to jamaica, former ambassador to england, i believe, was wood key johnson was a trump administration appointee -- woody johnson -- he probably will back desantis the as well, the billionaire other than of the new york jets. if donald -- if ron desantis wants that, he's got that. he's pretty much if got it locked up, from what i understand. i'm not saying nobody's going to give to trump that makes a lot of money, but they want desantis. trump, on the other hand, could use that to his advantage, and i think that's what you're seeing here. he's going to say, listen, i'm running against elites in both parties, the democrats and the republicans. ron desantis is an animal of

the elite, and if you, if i'm running for the forgotten man, it's -- and woman -- it's a populist message. and it might work. it might not work as well. i mean, it's kind of hard to say that desantis didn't do anything in florida. i mean, that's -- [laughter] that is your campaign message that, you know, florida was great beforehand and he just, we just flicked him in and, you know, he's just doing the same stuff that he's always done, you know, the voters in florida didn't say that. voters in florida overwhelmingly, wide margins, wider than, you know, past governors, successful governors voted ron desantis many -- in there because he did some different things. neil: but, charlie, you mentioned this idea of the trump folks and donald trump himself trying to say, you know, the elites and all of that. >> right. neil: last time i execked -- checked, donald trump is a billionaire, and i'm wonder if that -- i'm wondering if that

resonates, or is it working? he had a good common touch for his last run in office, maybe he can capitalize on that to raise money. your thoughts. >> yeah, i think he will. listen, there's no caught donald trump is an elite, although he was always an outsider, and i think he's been able to cultivate that image -- neil: you're an elite, charlie. >> of course i am. i'm a proud -- i'm a globalist. neil: yeah. right. [laughter] >> you know, born in the bronx and a globalist. [laughter] who could have thought that would happen? in any event, he's good at that. that's going to be his message. again, i don't know if it's going to work. it's really hard to say that ron desantis was just some guyed that -- guy that popped in in florida and continued the status quo. it is just, it defies reality -- neil: but this is going to get nasty, isn't it? >> oh, of course. and by the way, he's going to run against all elites. mitch mcconnell, paul ryan,

ron desantis. i could go down the list. that's going to be the his message. i don't know if it works. if it's a one-on-one match ifup, it probably doesn't work -- matchup. if it's 20 people, it could work because donald has that base. neil: right. >> but it's going to be a nasty campaign. and especially if desantis gets in. by the way, he's not in yet, right? neil: no, he's not. what's that line we use in this business, charlie? time will tell. >> time will el the, yes. [laughter] neil: thank you, my friend, for joining us on a saturday. charlie gasparino calling from his estate right now. he's an elite. our friend. all right, in the meantime, far from saying that this storm problem the country has been having is over, just talk to anyone from the midwest all the way to california and even in the los angeles area that it's easing up. it's not. lower your monthly payments with the 3 c's. pay down your credit cards.

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neil: all right, don't blame craig herrera about this massive storm that has gripped much of the country and particularly in california, southern california, i might point out. craig warned us about that as well. the fox weather meteorologist with us now. craig, what are we looking at here right now? >> reporter: i'm telling you, neil, yeah, i'm just the messenger, right? [laughter] southern california dealing with so much snow, neil. this is the first time we've had a blizzard warning for the san san bernardino county mountains ever. blizzard warns for l.a. county, ventura county, we've seen 50 inches of fresh snow in some of the higher elevations. the center of circulation is just off the coast. you've got got a southwesterly flow squeezing out the moisture like a sponge. and by the way, the snow has made a major problem along the grapevine. interstate 5 between central and southern california, one major artery. it is shut down because of ice. heavy rain, up to 7 inches

through the l.a. basin, that is now moving into san diego. plenty of snow in the san diego mountains as well. the storm is going to move over to the four corners tomorrow, northern new mexico, southern colorado. gusty winds, 70 miles per hour. where we don't have snow we have dust can. could see some blowing dust that'll reduce visibility as the storm moves over to the plains. now on sunday is evening we've got the chance for some severe weather popping up over portions of oklahoma, just outside of oklahoma city. the intier area, 10 million people eyes to the sky where we could see some damaging winds, straight-line winds, 60 miles an hour. twisting thunderstorms, tornadoes possible. here's the timeline, 8 p.m. wichita to oklahoma city, this is a fast moving system. if you get a tornado warning in this area, these storms may be racing 50-60 miles per hour. you think about that, that's about a mile per minute, so you won't have much time to react and get to your safe spot. monday now we're looking at the chance for severe weather moving over portions of kentucky, right

thru cincinnati, indianapolis in the bull's eye as well. we're not done there. monday night starts to lift over the great region -- great lakes region with rain for new york to the south but also a rain/snow mix for new york and snow again over through new england, through the northeast as well. we'll be dealing with more in the way of snow here. heavy rain over portions of the great lakes will melt some of the snow that has fallen. we'll watch the rivers go up because the rivers could rise, and that would lead to some flooding locally in some location cans as well. neil, this is a major storm system that's moving through quickly in southern california and into the bay rehr. they've been dealing -- area. they've been dealing with snow. i spent 20 years out there, and i'll tell you what, they're measuring it in feet, neil. neil: amazing. but secretly, craig, i think you're enjoying this. [laughter] >> reporter: you can see the smile? [laughter] neil: thank you, my friend. craig he area are rah, fox weather, following all of that.

well, i hope you're enjoying your weekend. you'd probably love it to be maybe a three-day weekend. well, there is a push right now because of a study that actually started in britain where they tried workers out doing a four-day workweek and, apparently, it was a resounding success. and now it's going to be pretty much normal for a lot of businesses there. and some folks here are hoping that it spreads. after this. ♪ everybody's working for the weekend. ♪ everybody wants a new romance ♪ oh my god mom, you gotta look... nope. keeping my eyes on the road is paying off with drivewise. bo-ring. get drivewise from allstate and save for avoiding mayhem like me. this isn't just freight. these aren't just shipments. they're promises. promises of all shapes and sizes. each, with a time and a place they've been promised to be.

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craig herrera, fox weather, ♪ neil: all right, would you like a four-day workweek? well, in the united kingdom they

had a trial, better than 60 companies were involved. actually, it involved thousands of employees, and they tried out a four-cay workweek so see how it would go. it did so well and workers felt so much better, productivity improved so much that i think about three-quarters of those companies now are saying we're boeing to make it permanent. and so people immediately right here, right in this country, right in this city, actually, right in this very studio started saying, sign me up. so is that a good or a bad thing? danielle dimartino booth joins us now, former dallas fed adviser, we've also got samantha eddit. you're pro this four-day workweek, danielle, nose to the grind, not so much. but, samantha, to you on why you think it's a good idea and why much like the beatles, what came over there should happen over here? >> well, i think the pendulum has swung so far in the other

direction where we were living to work rather than working to live are. and so this is a natural outgrowth of people saying i've had enough, i don't want to work 24/7. our culture is totally flawed, and now we need more flexibility. i'm not pro-four day workweek as much as i am pro-flexibility -- pro-flexibility. you had to lie about going to doctors' appointment, your kid's play or whatever it was. when you have a more flexible workplace, everyone wins. neil: danielle, what could possibly be wrong with that in. >> well, neil, i'm not anti-flexibility, so to speak. but there's something to be said for the fact that the american work ethic compared to the rest of the world has always been kind of the flag bearer. we've always been the most productive country, and we really have become much less productive in a post-pandemic world. when we have introduced so much more flexibility. i think actions speak louder

than words in the sense that you hear from a lot of employers who say we benefit much more from collaboration and from having workers in the office through the entire week. so, again, i appreciate the study, i appreciate the number of companies, but in this country at least i think that the american value system is such that we benefit from collaboration and from having a standard workweek, five days in the office. if. neil: couldn't you stagger that though, danielle? in other words, not everyone comes in and works the same four days, has the same three days off. there's a way to make it work, right? >> i mean, google's having individual employees occupy the same space in their offices. so, clearly, there, you know, you get a big enough spread sheet, you can make anything work. neil: okay. >> but my question is, what are you getting out of collaborative effort of your work force holistically. why kid we learn all about team

effort -- why did we learn all about team effort in school and all of a sudden those, that philosophy has gone by the wayside? neil: well, it's a good point to follow up on, samantha, that maybe this leads to people getting lazier. i know in britain they said productivity actually did improve. i don't know the final numbers on covid and whether, you know, people working from home consistently improved productivity. i know for many companies it did, maybe it does wane. what do you think? >> i think, first of all, it's important to point out that the first person who introduced the idea of a four-day workweek is president nixon. he was the one who first said that we need a four-day workweek in the. it's an unlikely pioneer of this. neil: yeah. >> by i think when we look back at the history of the five-cay workweek, it's totally ran come. it was not -- it was put in a place at a time when we had factories and everyone -- neil: we used to have a six-day workweek, to be honest. >> exactly right. >> it originally was before we switched it to five days and

gave everyone two days off. but if you look at the history of it, it's somewhat arbitrary. so i think what has happened today post-pandemic when everyone wants to work remotely, and everyone in my company, park place, everyone wants a freelance position, it's sort of a rebellion where people are saying we need more flexibility. so i think that the four-day workweek, you know, movement is just an outgrowth of the fact that people were working too hard. look at what happened, you know, danielle mentioned a company like google. google was one of the companies that had the ping-pong tables in the office, and you had sushi and you never had to leave and your dry cleaning, your gym -- neil: yeah. >> -- with the idea that all these companies would keep you at the office forever, you never had to leave. and i thinkable this is just a natural pendulum swinging in the opposite direction saying, it's enough. we have to fix this. and i think we'll end up landing somewhere in the middle. neil we'll see. ladies, thank you both very, very much. in the meantime, taking a look right now at ukraine one

year later. steve harrigan there for so much of it. and elena, remember her? an iconic figure whose messages from the home front electrified the world. she's back with us. >> i never wanted anyone to kill anyone. i am the most peaceful person in the world and ukrainians are, but they are just coming and they are just killing us. so please stop them. please come and save us. no. he's making real-time money moves with merrill. so no matter what the market's doing, he's ready. and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company. ... and the giggles. the family that takes delsym together, feels better together. oh yeah, that is them.

(that is howard) yeah, that's on howard's campus. ohhh, she's so powerful, she carried on the family legacy. we were blown away. (chuckles) i not only was a student and an undergrad, but i've been a professor there for twenty years, so it's really a special moment to know that i had a family member who over a hundred years prior have walk these grounds. it's deeply uplifting. yes, it is. we're walking in their footsteps.

>> what surprises me is that as the world leaders do not understand what is happening and they are more like children because what is happening is terrible. they aggressor, russia attack ukraine without any reason, simply because they want us to be their territory and they couldn't take my talks or something like this, they