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government, do it today. no need to wait. they're doing it for a reason. >> bill: i won't be one that downloads the app. >> dana: i have it. i have all these people sending me funny things. i don't work for the federal government. you saw it on my phone and why you diamond me out to our viewers in america. >> bill: i did not know. i shall not still be the one to download. >> dana: all right. right now the supreme court is hearing legal arguments challenging president biden's plan to cancel student loan debt putting taxpayers on the hook for more than $4 hundred billion. welcome to a new hour of "america's newsroom," asme owe dana perino. >> bill: good morning. a beautiful tuesday in new york. i'm bill hemmer. major test of with theall power at stake. critics blasting the hand-out as a glaring example of executive branch overreach. others saying the president's bail-out plan does not go far enough. >> why the hell are we paying
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for education in the first place? [cheers and applause] college should be free because guess what? when we get out, we are contributing to the society and this democracy and this economy and making it stronger. >> dana: david spunt live-out side court for us this morning. >> good morning. no matter where you land in this fiery debate i have yet to meet someone that has not formed some sort of opinion on this issue. off to my right you can hear noise. demonstrators have been out here since 3:00 p.m. yesterday fighting for the president's plan and fighting for this student loan forgiveness. some slept outside hoping to get a seat inside the court today lining up very early to watch this process unfold. if the justices rule in favor of the president, millions of people could have up to $20,000
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in student loan debt wiped out. >> our government is supposed to be about people, right? they shouldn't be making money off of us going to school or seeking higher education. it shouldn't happen that way. >> just last year the president fulfilled a campaign promise announced his plan cancelling up to $20,000 if you meet certain criteria. individuals earning less than $125,000 in 2020 or 2021 and married couples making less than a quarter million dollars could see up the $10,000 canceled. federal pelosi -- pell grants could be $20,000. the administration thinks they will prevail because of the heroes act modifying student loans following september 11th. in the law the words national emergency are used. the administration maintains until may 11 covid-19 is still a
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national emergency. six states are suing to end the plan. president donald trump originally began pausing student payments but the president now biden relied on the pandemic to justify expanding education loan forgiveness more. one of the states suing is iowa. >> it hurts iowans who went straight to work after high school who joined the military, started a family, started their own business. they are now on the hook to pay off someone else's student loan debt. >> that was the attorney general. i spoke to her and she is in the court right now. a decision in these cases -- i say these cases, two cases but they deal with the same issue. expected to come by the end of june, early july. one of the most consequential cases this term. >> dana: joining us for more is jonathan turley, fox news contributor and listening to that as well. before we go to your reaction i want to show you something from
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the white house. i don't think they feel very solid about this. tell us what you think. >> we feel very confident in our legal process here. >> i'm completely confident my plan is legal. right now it is on hold because of these lawsuits. >> we feel pretty confident in our legal authority to provide relief to these student borrowers. >> dana: do you think it sounds like they have an airtight case? >> nothing says confidence like repeatedly saying you are confident. the problem is that there is little basis for confidence on the merits of this case. the administration has stretched the hero's act in an absolutely bizarre extent. this was a five-page law designed to help military personnel who were in arrears on their student loans. the president has used this as the largest loan forgiveness plan in history. at one point the president suggested he pass this by one
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vote which left all of us scratching our heads because the problem is, nothing like this was passed by congress. it couldn't be passed by congress and the president knows it. that's why the biden administration is focusing not as much on the merits as trying to keep the justices from looking at the merits. they are challenging the standing of these parties to bring the case. their ability to be heard. and so that's a very interesting focus because i think the administration knows if they get past standing they have a world of hurt coming down this mountain. >> bill: i just see it much more simply than that. congress is in charge of the purse strings. not the president or the executive branch. does it go much further than that? >> well, you are talking about half a trillion dollar giveaway without a single vote by congress.
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this is at a time when they are just now again lifting the debt ceiling. at a time when we have crushing debt levels. but also you have many americans who are objecting that they should not be subsidizing the college education of others when they are working in fields and decided not to go to college. all of that is a type of debate we are supposed to have in congress. the president basically said i'm going to do this alone. and he is using this hero's act. so that's one of the reasons you are seeing the administration putting most of its chips on standing. they desperately do not want the justices to look at the merit of their legal arguments here. they want to focus on the standing issue. >> dana: look at the map here. these are the six states that are challenging, arkansas, iowa, kansas, missouri, nebraska,
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south carolina. the poll how much debt should be forgiven. 25% said all. 37% said up to $20,000 if income is under $125,036% say none of it. it isn't a clear-cut case when it comes to partisanship. what matters is how the justices will rule. you follow the court closely and it is now conservative-leaning court. how do you think this ends up at the end of the day? >> well, the standing issue is a tough one. you have two cases here, one brought by the states. another brought on behalf of two students. there are arguments on both sides on this standing issue. that will in my view be the toughest fight for the challengers. on the merits, i think that this is a lead pipe cinch for the challengers. i think the court will say this is way outside the navigational
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beacon of statutory interpretation. i doubt they can get five justice eaves to say it falls within the hero's act. i could certainly be wrong on both points but i think the real issue, the threshold determinative issue will be can they get past standing. once past, i think the challengers will have a better day. >> bill: thank you, professor. loved your piece yesterday in the covid lab leak theory, by the way. very well done. we'll talk about that another time. can we go back to the poll here? how much college loan debt should be forgiven? 25% said all of it? where were the people of miami at ohio. i could have used a hand-out. i didn't ask for one. i paid it off and it gave me major headaches along the way and a lot of stress and anxious i tie but i did it. your witness. >> dana: i was worried i wouldn't have money to pay my student loan i was waiting tables and going to school. i would pay three months in
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advance. which is really dumb but i understand the student loan anxiety but it was my decision to take out that loan in order to get that graduate degree. i'm glad i have it. it has been useful. but i would never have expected anybody else to help pay for my loan. >> bill: i agree with you. we signed the contract and we fulfill the contract. >> dana: that's it. >> bill: nine minutes past. that's settled. the border crisis is front and center again. at the house homeland security committee holds a hearing on the hill. they are back in d.c. republicans appear to be building a case to impeach mayokas. all this coming as the massive surge of migrants and deadly drugs continues to pour across the southern border. aishah hosni is watching this hearing for us today. she is live on capitol hill. good morning. good to see you. >> good morning to you, bill and dana. that's right. this is the latest hearing on the job that secretary mayokas has done.
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maybe not done on the southern border. this particular hearing of the homeland security committee will feature testimony from a sheriff, a mother whose two sons died of fentanyl poisoning, two sons, and a fed up hospital ceo in a border town who says they're overwhelmed with migrants. the hearing is underway and as you mentioned, lawmakers are back on the hill with a wealth of knowledge, bill, after conducting field hearings for the past two weeks including that judiciary committee hearing last week that pretty much every house democrat decided to skip. republicans, though, aren't affected by that. >> if folks don't want to travel to the border we'll bring the border to them. the only way this gets solved is if it's a bipartisan manner. the sooner republicans and democrats come together to solve it, the better it will be for america. >> talking about impeachment. what's going on with that? two republicans are introduced
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articles of impeachment. the gop not quite there yet to pull the trigger. speaker mccarthy has said the committees will investigate mayokas first before they open an impeach. inquiry. dhs has brushed off any impeachment talk challenge to republicans to fix the immigration system. republicans say you know what? bring back all the trump-era rules and the border will fix itself. >> bill: good luck with that. >> dana: you could call it generation red ink. americans in their 30s piling on debt at a historic rate. why is that? our panel is next. >> bill: the mysterious death of an american swimming champ in the virgin islands under investigation. was it murder? we'll check it out. >> dana: the white house not totally convinced covid may have leaked from a wuhan lab. how conclusive is the evidence? >> it's a big story with a lot of implications that go to it.
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>> bill: so the new florida congresswoman anna paulina luna claimed her private military records were leaked to a democrat opposition research firm joining a dozen republican lawmakers and candidates saying they were affected by the air force's unauthorized release of information. she said the u.s. air force leaked it in the mid-terms to a democratic operation research firm. my records were leaked and not cool. not a good thing at all. if true the air force should do a better job. >> dana: if there are over a
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dozen and you are at the air force releasing this information, don't you think it's a little suspicious if there are 12 republican candidates actually running being asked for at the same time? that will be part of the investigation. also want to talk about this. police in the u.s. virgin islands launching a criminal investigation into the death of jamie kael. she was found dead inside the home she shared with her boyfriend last week. nate foye is live in the new york city newsroom with the details. what happened, nate? >> tough to say right now. a big part is because her autopsy is spending. here is what we know this morning. the 42 swimming champion was already dead when she arrived at that clinic in st. john. police are now trying to figure out what happened in the hours before that. police say her boyfriend left a bar just after midnight the morning of her death. he then found her shortly after unresponsive on the floor of their shared apartment. police say he brought her to the hospital with a friend where
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staff indicated she was suffering from cardiac arrest. the u.s. virgin islands police department released a statement reading in part hospital staff rendered cpr but the female died. she was originally from new hampshire and competed in multiple swimming competitions for the united states after a very successful high school and college career. she won gold in the pan pacific champion schist and usa swimming tells fox news usa swimming is saddened to hear of her passing. jamie was a proud member of our national teams in the late 1990s and cherished teammates. we extend condolences to her friends and family. the cause of death is not known now. police are not identifying her boyfriend. fox news asked police if he is cooperating with the investigation but they are declining to answer any of our questions. send it back to you. >> dana: thank you, nate. be sure to catch the true crime
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the white house what's going on with that. we're at record high household debt and record high credit card debt and millennials are leading the charge. why? kids home from school and had to pay for childcare and prices are up and can't meet that with wages that aren't keeping up with inflation. so they are being squeezed really hard. it will get worse when they have to start paying their student loans again. that's a big number that's not been on their plate. when that happens, watch out. >> dana: also you have this from the "wall street journal." the article. americans in their 30s piling on debt saying it could worsen a generational wealth gap already on the rise. many started their careers during the 2008 recession with no borrowing power crimping their earnings every since. do they feel they're in a downward spiral? >> i feel like one of them. traumatized how we lost everything in 2008. the house, 401k you name it and
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kral our way out of it. >> dana: including opportunities. the job market was bad then. if you were coming out of college it was tough. >> some of that has shifted. they talk about the bargaining power shifted back to the employee from the employer. you have a lot of negotiations if you come to work or not. employee does have some of that bargaining power but brian nailed it when he talked about inflation. that's the big thing that we have never experienced since the 1970s this type of inflation. you think about real wages being negative after inflation you've lost income. i think it was interesting. consumer confidence numbers came in lower than expected. january was worse than expected. target and wal-mart we have heard from in the last week. target this morning said food and beverages are okay. but consumers are pulling back on discretionary. the fun items. wal-mart said half of gains they made last quarter are coming from people making over $1 hundred thousand. those people are going into
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wal-mart because they're feeling pinched and going to wal-mart and saying i can't afford anything and i come to wal-mart for groceries. >> look at the retail guidance. it is a stretch consumer. >> dana: last night on bret baier's show he had an interview with the commerce secretary. almost every question that he asked her at some point she said the economy is very strong. and maybe -- maybe the fundamentals show something like that but it doesn't seem to be how people feel on the ground. what is the disconnect? >> you can tell half the story. the job market is tight. a lot of open jobs out there. that's true. if you start getting down to the question of people's budgets and how they pay for what they need, that's where people don't feel so strong. the administration doesn't want to talk about that side of the story and why she says it is strong but neglects people feeling like i have to borrow to pay for what i need. >> dana: i found a real
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disconnect. >> bill: you guys get into a lot of debates on your show. do you agree with brian's assessment of the economy? >> i'm a little more optimistic. i do agree depends on how you slice the data. last friday we got personal income and spending. those numbers are holding up. inflation is hurting but right now consumers still feel like they have a bargaining power. there are 10 1/2 million job owns. they are so scarred from the staffing shortages. people are asking for wages. you got the big bonus data in from january in new york city. that bone use data helps. >> bill: but if the feds bump interest rates throughout 2023. >> your debt is going up. it squeezes your budget more. what you get from us is the whole picture. you get what's good but also get where the risks are. that's what you aren't getting from the white house or the national stage. you have to know how things are
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delivered a moment ago. >> they said that fentanyl deaths rose 22% from 2020 to 2021. it's unbelievable. you would think one death from fentanyl coming across our southern border would be enough to sound the alarm. and my kids' story was high profile because three young people died. there was another child from our hometown who died the same day. it wasn't in the news, you don't hear about it. it was just one death. so it wasn't extraordinary. i found out from the funeral home that they have tons of these cases regularly. i'm from rochester hills, michigan. we were in "money magazine" ranked in the top ten cities to live in america a few years ago. our school is top five in michigan. but this all started at the
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schools. and the law enforcement are doing all they can but they usually don't have leads. you have to stop it from its source. now if we had chinese troops lining up along our southern border with weapons aimed at our people, with weapons of mass destruction aimed at our cities you damn well know you would do something about it. we have a weather balloon from china going across our country. nobody died and everybody is freaking out about it. but 100,000 die every year and nothing is being done, not enough is being done. numbers are going up, not down. and you talk about children being taken away from their parents. my children were taken away from
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me. 100,000 americans every year are having -- 200,000 because it's both parents, right, are having their children taken away from them? this should not be politicized. it is not about race. fentanyl doesn't care about race. you talk about welcoming those seeking protection at our border. you are well coming drug dealers across our border and giving them protection. you aren't protecting our children. i've in support groups on facebook where there are thousands of parents who have lost their children. every day faces are added. it is dehumanizing and demoralizing. there are parents who paint their chairs purple and make shrines for their children and i see those purple chairs.
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purple is the color for a drug death. i don't use the term drug overdose. this is not an overdose. this is murder. my children got fake percocets that were fentanyl. it is a homicide. not overdose. >> bill: this is tough stuff. rebecca, she lost two sons in fentanyl deaths. that woman deserves an audience at the white house for what she has gone through. >> dana: absolutely. super compelling. she has her facts and she has all of the passion of a mother who is grieving and she is representing, as she pointed out, 200,000 other parents also going through the same thing every single year and demanding something be done. >> bill: a remarkable story of the her testimony continues on the hill. hope to talk to her tomorrow on "america's newsroom." >> dana: meantime a highway traffic stop in california revealing hundreds of pounds of deadly fentanyl. enough to kill millions of
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americans. that's a latest example of mexican drug cartels spreading poison across the nation. bill melugin live on the west coast for us. good morning, bill. >> good morning. this was one of the biggest fentanyl busts border patrol has had this year with agents in southern california seizing enough of the opioid to potentially wipe out most of the west coast of the united states. take a look at this image. it what pud in border patrol san diego sector. agents seized 232 pounds of fentanyl all hidden in a smuggler's vehicle. border patrol says it's enough lethal doses to kill 50 million people. three smugglers were arrested and that fentanyl had a street value of an estimated $3 million. now multiple border patrol sources tell me the bust took place during a traffic stop on a highway in orange county. about 75 miles inland from the southern border. highlighting the fact the fentanyl had already made it into the u.s. and was seized between ports of entry.
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gop congresswoman kim who represents part of orange county reacted to the bust tweeting today enough fentanyl to kill all of california and more was found in orange county. this crisis puts lives in danger. the biden administration must get serious about the border. this was the third major fentanyl bust made by border patrol between ports of entry in just the last two weeks in the remote desert east of nogales, arizona. there were drug smugglers carrying 24 pounds of fentanyl after they crossed into the united states illegally. earlier this month take a look at this picture border patrol agents in yuma, arizona sector seized 93 pounds of fentanyl a drug smuggler had in a bag after entering the u.s. illegally. in just the last four months alone border patrol has seized at least 800 pounds of fentanyl between ports of entry. they say that's potentially enough to kill at least 150 million people. we'll send it back to you.
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>> the president made trying to find the origins of covid a priority when he came into office. he has a whole of government effort designed to do that. there is not a consensus right now in the u.s. government about exactly how covid started. >> bill: this is a good riddle. biden administration down playing a new assessment by the department of energy that concluded that covid most likely leaked from a lab in wuhan, china but that is done with quote low confidence.
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that reignites calls for a strong federal response. mike gallagher last hour. we asked him. the chair of the new house china select committee. listen. >> acting rational lay we would proper body it all few gain-of-function research and wouldn't allow people to expertment with coronavirus. we need to understand how this happened so we can prevent a future pandemic. >> bill: let's bring in dr. marty makary, professor of public health from johns hopkins university. the f.b.i. saying they are medium confident. department of energy say they are low confident. both conclude they believe right now it came from the lab. >> it's almost comical. >> bill: do we need another opinion to push all aside all these opinions to one side? is that what we're waiting on? >> i think it is comical they are talking about different levels of confidence. you couldn't have more information than you possibly
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could need to make a conclusion. the world epicenter was five miles from this bla4 lab. one of the only in china. in 1977 there was a lab leak of an h1n1 strain from klein yeah. lab records were destroyed. inspection before the covid pandemic by u.s. official eaves said the conditions were comparable to that of a dental clinic and two top virologists told dr. fauci early on they thought a lab leak was likely. they both told him that because it was obvious and apparent from day one. >> bill: peel the curtain back here. we asked congressman gallagher the same question. how does the white house or administration -- what do they gain by not committing to the lab leak? >> look, it's hugely embarrassing they were funding
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this very lab. so what we've seen with the covid response, driven by public health officials is that they don't want attention on an issue. they don't talk about it. they don't want attention on natural immunity they don't ever talk about it. we've seen it now. it is embarrassing and we deserve an apology. dr. fauci the chief medical advisor to the president wrote op-eds calling for gain-of-function research for the illusion you can do it stavely. lab leaks happen. everyone who worked in a lab will tell you that. >> bill: i want you to listen to senator ted cruz. he takes this a lot further when it comes to a crisis of confidence. here is senator cruz. >> there has been nothing in our lifetimes that has done more to damage the credibility of government scientists or doctors than dr. anthony fauci. there are now tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of americans that are not going to
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believe the next thing a scientist or doctor working for the government says. that's dangerous. >> bill: what do you think of that? >> look, i think it's true. right now we have a massive distrust in public health as public health officials closed schools, they pushed to mask toddlers, they down played myo carditeis after the the vaccines. you saw the big study on natural immunity. when you say the wrong thing for so long after the evidence is apparent you lose credibility. i worry that vaccination rates in children will go down, public health trust will go down. why don't we hear all of our public health officials call for a once and for all international ban of all gain-of-function research? it's a bad idea. it's obvious. >> bill: you made your mind up is what i hear. you think it came from wuhan the lab. >> i think it is obvious it came
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from wuhan. why would the chinese people call the nih to delete gene sequences they submitted to a data bank? >> bill: thank you for your time and analysis today. >> dana: it is curious why the white house continues to do this. "wall street journal" had the headline not a consensus wuhan covid dodge? saying that part of being better for the next pandemic is knowing if humans played a role in creating this one. what is strange to me is if there is some reason they don't want to go ahead and commit to it, it is weird because as these things come forward, it will get closer to re-election time and at some point they will have to say this is it. maybe there is something going on with china behind the scenes. be great if they could leak that to one of their trusty sources they read about in the media all the time. we would at least understand what they're thinking. >> bill: we'll see if that's the case or whether they hold fast. so far they are. >> dana: we want to take you down to south carolina.
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america's president have? the u.s. supreme court is hearing arguments on president biden's student loan hand-out. did he go too far? the white house trying to sidestep the finding from the f.b.i. and energy department that covid likely leaked from a lab in china. the liberal media caught again denying the facts on that. and chicago mayor lori lightfoot fighting for her job. how does she do that? she throws down the race and gender cards. yep. senator marsha blackburn. david asman, tammy bruce, "the faulkner focus" top of the hour. >> the state has the right and the opportunity to do appropriate rebuttal evidence. >> testimony yesterday that our expert believes there were too shooters. something that he was not asked. obviously something that is new matter. obviously -- this will go into week seven. the state's position is let no dead horse go unbeaten.
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>> dana: more heated moments in the murdaugh double murder trial. hearing rebuttal witnesses this morning. the defense rested its case yesterday following testimony from alex's brothers and a south carolina criminal defense attorney joins us now. a good friend and former colleague of our colleague trey gowdy who sang your praises and glad to have you here today. listen to call for one. defense witness who suggested there were two shooters. watch here. >> the temporal locations happened quickly. the individual who shot first with a shotgun maggie was stuned and would have taken some degree of time to recover. a logical argument here. why would one shooter bring two long rifles, two long weapons to the event? you can't handle and shoot two of them.
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>> dana: before closing arguments and the field trip over to the crime scene, that's the last thing the jury heard before we get to this point. cindy, what did you think of that? >> well, dana, the defense came out swinging in their case. they started as you mentioned with a loving brother who described a wonderful relationship between his wife and his son. and then they followed that up with two expert witnesses who both agreed that the state's pathologist and witness was just wrong. so we find ourselves here with a little bit of a battle of the experts where you have the state's pathologist saying it was a fatal gunshot to paul murdaugh from the front and that the shooter had to be three feet or more away sort of what they seem to suggest the evidence supports. then you have these two experts saying no, it was a close contact wound. the gun barrel was on -- likely an paul murdaugh's head otherwise not enough force
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generated to have the brain leave the skull in the way it did. that is a big deal when you talk about the absence of blood spatter evidence on clothing, on his face, in his hair. did he have time to clean up before he went to his mother's house? and all of this plays right into the whole issue of reasonable doubt for the defense. >> dana: as a prosecutor, what should the prosecution do today. can they rebut that? >> you will have to do two things. rebut the whole idea that there was no blood spatter. the other big issue the expert mentioned was there were in his expert opinion probably two shooters. you will have to reverse jets completely. i don't know if you have another expert on hand that you can have testify. i this i the judge has been pretty clear this morning that this is not going to be a rehashing of the entire trial, which we don't want. certainly don't want to sit through all the financial information again. i'm not exactly sure how they
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will do it. but i am interested to see. >> dana: i want you to listen about these claims what murdaugh said was happening at the kennels and what his brother said yesterday. call for number two. >> your friends and family heard for the first time your story about the kennels yesterday. >> yes, i agree with that. >> when did you first learn your brother was down at the kennels just before the murders, two days ago with the rest of us? >> no. to hear that audio and i saw the kennel and at that point i heard his voice and i knew it was him. >> dana: what does that mean for the prosecution? >> in my opinion the prosecution's best evidence in this case and as we've heard most of it is circumstantial but the fact he is at the crime scene at the time or right around the time of these murders is critical. that's the best thing they have got. they have cell phone data, gps data. he is at the scene and frankly
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if there are only three people at the scene, two are dead and you are the only one who is not the logical inference is you are the one that did the killing. >> dana: great to have you as this -- maybe we'll wrap up by next week and the jury -- by friday and the jury will get their instructions. great to have you. >> thank you. >> bill: awful testimony there from the brother yesterday about the bodies he found. >> dana: hard and what he did. >> bill: two things i want to get to now. before we go how about this? before we go dana reads sports before we go. >> dana: in the first inning, bases loaded, mcfadian walks up to the plate and grand slam. he is not done. one inning, two grand slams. done only twice before but never in the first inning. >> bill: look at that. >> dana: look at him. >> bill: that's cool. northern kentucky university, a
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fine institution there. >> dana: you think one of the teams is looking at him or the majors, pro teams? major league baseball? >> bill: yeah, could be. >> dana: or just pro-basketball. i don't know. >> bill: definitely baseball. >> dana: we have had a tuesday. good to be with you. i'll see you on "the five." harris faulkner is next. here she is. >> harris: breaking news with a presidential power grab font and center at the u.s. supreme court. justices are hearing arguments on the challenges to president biden's massive student loan hand-out. i'm harris faulkner and you are in "the faulkner focus." why is this so critical? a ruling in president biden's favor would set a stunning precedent for executive authority to spend our tax money without any say from congress. biden's plan would help millions of people who took out

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