take her phone and not paul's phone? let's start there. why would alex take her phone without paul's phone? that's a question. i don't have an answer to. it makes no sense. it makes no sense why he would take maggie's phone if there is something on there. he knows her password, put it in and see what it is. we know from all this phone data her phone was never unlocked and he had the keys. so if he has taken her phone to unlock or do something with why, why, why, why? and these are circumstances that have to be consistent with each other and have to point conclusively to the guilt of alex murdaugh, beyond a reasonable doubt and these circumstances just raise more

questions, ladies and gentlemen. raise more questions that we wouldn't have to be dealing with if they had simply secured maggie's phone on june 8th when they got it, we wouldn't be here. so we do know from the timeline that alex left the property at 9:07. were they killed before he left? y don't know the answer to that. i don't know the answer to that. we do know if he was in the house when the shots were made down at the kennel, that he would not have heard them. we had decibel testing from mr. sutton. they were angry with mr. suttons test, not angry, challenged his conclusion on many things, they didn't touch his acoustic

testing. didn't doubt that, haven't challenged that. if he's in the house, and shots are ringing down at the kennel, he doesn't hear them. he doesn't hear them. now they say that sometime after 8:44, and they peg it 8:48, 8:50, that is when paul last responded to a text from this friend of his, they ignore the fact there had to be clean-up. buster testified it takes 10 minutes to get the dogs in, clean up, etcetera and this 8:55 stuff on maggie's phone. but let's take their theory at 8:50, after having a pleasant conversation, talking about is it guinea or chicken and bubba,

all right, four minutes later, let's go ahead and kill my wife and my son because i got questioned at the office today. that's the case, let's run with it and see where it takes us. it takes us that he leaves the property at 9:07. from the moment, so he's got, you know, if it happens at 8:50, he's got 17 minutes. 17 minutes. he would have to be a magician to make all that evidence disappear. you heard under dr. kenzie, the doctors, either way, covered with blood on paul's shoe, that is what all that testimony was about, not trying to figure out whose got the right angles. the whole point of that is, we ended upg to get our own

expert, to prove the shooter is covered in biological material, covered in blood, covered in everything because the blowback and it wasn't until reply that the doctor said there would be blowback under my version, too, blowback meaning blood, biological material from killing paul. the shooter is covered in blood. the shooter's gun is covered in blood. and that -- there is not sufficient amount of time to clean all that up. make all that disappear. and then, call your son, buster, dr driving to visit your mother and

he got a call from barbara mixon, who said your mother is agitated, you might check on her. he goes to visit her. call said buster and said, i just blew your mom and brother up. you should see the damn mess. are you kidding me? he calls chris wilson, normal conversation, his brother john marvin, talking about his dad and goes and sits down with shelly and sits with his mom and stays there 20 minutes, not 40 minutes, the record shows what time. the fact of the matter is he's got no blood on him, he's acting normal as everyday. he is the same old alex, yet their theory is he just blew the person, the people he loved the

most in this world, blew them away. now talk a little bit about the angles that mr. sutton did his reverse trajectories on the shots. and i mean, they -- they're having a good time joking about the size of the figure and the pharaoh saying it must have been a 12-year-old kid, 5'2", let them have their fun. that is not what the testimony was, testimony was barrel of the gun has to be that level to make the shot into the quail pen. we didn't take the measurements, sled took the measurements.

yeah, could a 6'4" person get down to that level? sure. mr. sutton says that is not a natural shooting level. could 6'4" person get on their knees? sure. shooters are in movement and 6'4" person going to be moving on their knees? i don't think so. the most common sense thing here is there were two shooters. there were two guns and as mr. palmbach said, one gun was high capacity, holds 10, 20, 30 rounds. if you're going to execute somebody, one gun is enough. why take another gun that only has three shots? it's -- and dr. kenzie agreed with the angle coming out of the

quail pen, the angle puts it pretty far away from the door of the feed room, where paul is killed. but it is not our burden, not our burden. it is their burden to prove to you based on circumstantial evidence that all circumstances are consistent and point conclusively to the defendant's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and those facts are not consistent, just not consistent. won't say a word about condition of paul and maggie, particularly paul. not going to show any photos. i think you would agree that it was so bad, it was so bad.

and alex in the back of the car with me in the back of that, you can see me on the camera. sitting there talking to agent owen and agent claw and he says, it is so bad, they did him so bad. agent croft misheard that and said, he said i did him so bad. the evidence is, everyone who listened and knows what alex wa did him so bad. i think we can put that issue to rest. that issue points to a bigger question. what would they be saying in this trial if that conversation

was a videotape? what would they be saying? we know agent croft would be saying, he said, i did him so bad and then where would we be then? i am grateful to sled that they videotaped that. you will hear it, if you have questions, i don't think you should, but they did him so bad, that is for sure. another thing that we're going to clear up right now is alex's concern for buster. you heard that and you heard that in mr. waters closing. that on the statements alex made on the roadside shooting labor day weekend, where he tried to arrange assisted suicide and told officers that there is no danger to buster. of course, there is no danger to buster because of the roadside

shooting, because he knew who shot him, curtis a. smith. he knew he was trying to get him killed. the reason he knows there is nothing to worry about buster is because he knows he did it. that is what was just argued yest yesterday. well, deputy mcdowell, in body cam video in evidence captured alex speaking to buddy hill about his concern about buster's safety. will you play that now? it is in evidence, i don't have the exhibit number. >> can y'all get a police officer with my oldest son in columbia? >> can you call buster?

>> i haven't told him yet. >> can we play that again? >> what about buster? we got to get -- can y'all get a police officer with my oldest son in columbia? >> can you call buster? >> did you hear that? can y'all get a police officer for my oldest son in columbia? what about buster? what about buster? can y'all get a police officer? buddy, can you get a police officer for my oldest son, that is buddy hill. they want to tell you he wasn't concerned for buster's safety? once again, i'm grateful, the sheriff's department had body cams. because now you know, you know alex was concerned. you know alex asked for a police

officer for his son in columbia, buster. now i'm almost -- almost done, i promise, but i do want to talk about alex misstatement about time. alex told deputy owen during interviews that -- first alex statement about time are not lies, they are just misstatements and even like i said, deputy owens said people make mistakes -- agent owen, they make mistakes about time all the time and they do. now mr. waters is critical, because alex was wrong every time he gave a time estimate. turns out, i think mr. waters is probably right about that. whether time period is inconsukweshl or consequential, he is wrong about it. and the -- we had brought in

alex had deputies in an interview he got home at 5:00 and that is not true. he went to work at 8:30, that is not true. and so, he is just wrong on times. but what was consistent whenever he had an interview, he said get the records, get the records and it will show what time i did this, what time i did that. it will all be in the records. and guess what, they are in the records and when the records show that his time estimate was wr wrong, you know, they jump up and down. they jump up and down. the statement to deputy green, he said, i've gone to my moms for about an hour and a half and last saw them 45 minutes.

that, frankly, i don't know if that is wrong or not, he's talking to deputy green about 10:30. hour and a half from 10:30 is 9:00. he left at 9:07. but the question about what he did when he got down to the scene and he said he ran up to paul and maggie and he left his phone and went back to get his phone. and that then he is talking to 911 operator and you can are had, he says i've been up to it now, it's bad. he doesn't remember the sequencing and i don't think anyone should hold that against him. mr. waters gets up here and says

maggie was running to her baby. alex was running to his baby. and can you imagine what he saw? and is it evidence of guilt that he doesn't remember what the sequencing was in that moment? is that evidence? is that evidence of guilt? or is that evidence of trauma? this guy went to get a 12-gauge shotgun and he put 16-gauge shells in it. he knows the difference. he didn't know that night.

and i'm not quite understanding what the state makes of this. did he not go up to their bodies? because the forensic evidence sure speaks to the contrary. what we have is maggie's d.n.a. all over his t-shirt and you heard that from agent zapata, we have paul's d.n.a. on his t-shirt. how did he get paul and maggie's d.n.a. on his shirt if he didn't touch them? if he brutally murdered them, hosed off, got in the golf cart naked, went to the house, changed clothes -- >> harris: we're having disruption from the live feed

inside that south carolina courtroom where you see alex murdaugh, so we're going to break away from that double-murder trial for just a moment to figure out the technology of bringing that picture live back to you. we have ways to monitor it. we can hear it. in the meantime, if anything pops, we can tell you what is said inside the courtroom. in the meantime, emily, when you look at yesterday compared to today and yesterday went on forever with the closing arguments from the prosecution, how would you compare the two substance wise? >> emily: both are focused on the who and why and difference in prosecution closing arguments and here midway through the defense closing arguments, near the end is import placed on the circumstantial evidence that points toward both. for example, in the middle of there was behavior of the defendant after the time of the killings. his attorney is saying is this evidence of guilt or trauma?

he can't remember, he's making a ton of calls, why would someone that just murdered their family make a ton of calls? talk about regular things? we have testimony that says we talked about cases and mundane things. prosecution portrayal he manufactured this defendant, all of that to provide this alibi he was absolutely anywhere, but close to the scene. it took a year for federal agents to hack into his son's phone and prove he was located right there at the kennels. the biggest question is why did he lie? prosecution says he lies because he's a murderer, he has a false exculpatory statement, that is why me and trey gowdy were talking about, if you have no reason to lie, why do you? for someone that wears a badge, has blue lights on his truck,

why do you distrust the police? defense says he was in trauma, he can't remember. so much more to analyze, for me, points are still with prosecution. >> harris: it is interesting one point about the police, jim griffin in his closing argument today went really several minutes at different times talking about how i don't want to talk bad about the police, but. i don't want to say they are not trust, but -- try to approach the question about alex murdaugh and why he lied and how bad the paranoia was from drug use and so forth and so on, which is not something widely known at the time, we know in detail in part because of the prosecution. let's go back to the trial, we figured out the technical difficulty, we have picture and sound. alex murdaugh on trial for double murder of his wife and son. >> convince you of this and show

you that and without issue of guilt, without showing evidence of guilt, convince you he murdered his wife and son because of financial misdeeds were going to come out. that is the most illogical thing imaginable and there is no evidence to that. then the state brings she's shotguns in here and i will not pick every one of them up. forensic evidence on the shotguns, they can't be excluded. okay. they can't be included, either, so you know nothing more about these shotguns than you would have the day you showed up for jury selection because there is nothing to know about them, can't excludethem, can't include them, there is no blood, brains, guts on any of the guns from the

shooting under everybody's interpretation of how paul's murder. i mean, they want you to think because you own guns that you should be viewed differently? i don't know what else to make of that, i don't know what else to make of that. when this trial began with opening statements on january 25th, we were asked why would alex execute his wife and son in cold blood. here we are, six weeks later. you have heard weeks of testimony about alex's financial crimes, drug addiction and lies. but after all that, the state failed to prove, to provide satisfactory answer to this question, why, why, why. the state cannot provide an answer to this question because the answer is he would not.

he would not under any circumstances murder those that meant the most to him. your oath requires that you hold the state to exacting standard of proof that the state must prove the defendant guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and when they rely solely on circumstantial evidence, circumstances must be consistent with each other and when taken together point conclusively to the guilt of the accused beyond a reasonable doubt and merely portray the behavior of defendant suspicious, you must find him not guilty. the state fails to meet the retirement, circumstances don't point conclusively to alex's guilt, far from it. mr. waters wants you to believe alex slaughtered maggie and paul and repeatedly lied and changed his story to fit the timeline and evidence. turns out, as it turns out, in fact the state is the one that

manipulating evidence to fit their theory of guilt, which changed from the date of the murders until yesterday. absence of forensic science and reliable investigation, the guns, blood spatter, time and opportunity to have committed the murders, you are instead left to make inferences about interaction and behaviors. prosecution wants you to view the evidence through diabolical monster lens they tried to paint, law requires you to view it through the lens of innocence, none of these things individually or taken together prove conclusively to alex's guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. up to now you have not been able to say a single word, can't imagine how frustrating that must be. but soon, soon you will have the most powerful voice in this courtroom. with your words, you can let

everyone know in court of law only evidence and burden of proof matter, not gossip, inyou endoor theory layered on top of speculation. you can let the state know they don't get to obtain indictment and bring before you case built on theory, speculation. there are two words that justice demands in this case and those two words are not guilty. the oath you have taken in this case is to follow the law. to follow the constitution. and hold the government to the burden of proof. it requires the verdict of not guilty. on behalf of alex, on behalf of buster, on behalf of maggie and on behalf of my friend paul i respectfully request that you do not compound a family tragedy

with another. thank you. >> ladies and gentlemen, we will send you to the jury room for a break. please do not discuss the case. >> harris: he means that part about not discussing the case, we started with judge newman replacing a juror because she discussed the case in detail, he didn't give her words, but knew she had broken the orders he laid out and she was replaced with an alternate. that is where we started. this is "outnumbered" and i'm harris faulkner here with emily compagno, lisa boothe and douglas murray, author of "the war on the west." let's talk, kayleigh, about the wrap-up, the second time in a few minutes we saw jim griffin, the defense attorney who handled the closing arguments choke up

and cry. >> kayleigh: you don't expect the attorney get choked up and cry, you expect the defendant to. the defense is relying on emotion to great avail, you see contest between emotion on part of defense and facts on the part of the prosecution. you will recall, alex murdaugh, got choked up to the point of almost not being able to speak when he described finding his son. we were speaking and wondering if you would get choked up later in the day and he did. they are using emotion as strategy and for the jury to determine if this emotion authentic, remorse or authentic defendant wrongfully accused? >> harris: let me follow-up with that, something nancy grace witnessed because she's inside the courtroom. a juror handing a box of tissues to alex murdaugh. what are we supposed to think about that? that is not the juror that got

replaced. >> kayleigh: it raises the question the jury is buying into his emotion. as viewer, he was convicted, he had motive, means and opportunity, layout compelling case, not to mention the lies emily laid out for us. as a viewer, when i saw this individual get emotional from position of mother, father, how could anyone do this to your trial and resonate with the emotion from the defendant. >> harris: interesting you seeing it both ways. we don't know about the jury and won't know details until the case is over, sometimes we learn. douglas, what is your take on and we haven't talked about this and i don't know if you get an

injunction, there is a netflix industry. this trial has a cottage industry going on. >> douglas: it does, i was in south carolina last week and everybody is talking about this more than the rest of the country. there is huge amount, inuendo, background noise, people know things that might come out in the future. i go back to the point, troubling thing about the trial, there is underlying thing of i think most of us find it incomprehensible any parent would do this to a child and yet we know, cases like diane downs case in the '80s, people do appalling things. i think the defense will rely on instinct from the jury, who could do this. >> harris: emotion. lisa, does emotion win the day? we are emotional society, people are being cancelled, people do

not use words anymore, caught up on the feels. >> lisa: i've been hearing emotion on either side, two things i'm caught up, putting myself in the mind of a juror, they convinced me he's a bad man, liar, potentially capable of murder, is he capable of these murders beyond a reasonable doubt? i don't know if i'm there for two reasons. one, motive doesn't add up, distract and delay from financial investigation? you could convince me he killed paul because the boot crash led to unravelling of his family and maggie was potentially thinking about divorcing him and he felt my life would be better with these two out of it. you could convince me of that, to delay does not make sense. the timeline raises questions. if he supposedly murdered them

8:50 p.m. and off to his mothers at 9:07, that doesn't leave much time to clean things up to where there is circumstantial evidence left and he doesn't arrive back until 10 p.m., calls at 10:06 p.m. and period of time before the police arrive, he was on the phone for like seven minutes, so half the time, he would have been on the phone with police, when do you have time to kill two people, clean up and slightly hung up on the two long guns. if you had a golf court, i guess they could do it. >> harris: there was the example in the courtroom yesterday and it was hard in configuration to have shot somebody in the head, that reenactment. >> i'm caught up on the two long guns, for me, the way my mind works, logistics have to make sense to arrive at a conclusion. for me, lingering questions where if i was on a jury and you

say this man is guilty of murder, i would struggle so much. i'd be like this man is so bad, did he do this beyond a reasonable doubt, i don't know if i'm there >> that is what the prosecution was arguing, they said why would someone encountering their family annihilated for the first time within 17 seconds be able to call 911 and articulate what alex did, he knew what he was coming home to, they say if he was heading to his mom's house, why was he driving at such excessive speed? we have beauty of forensics here, of technology. why engage in 9000 steps in 40 seconds, numbers that show they argue utmost panic, running around. >> harris: and on the phone, was he pacing? >> he touched his neck, why was the white shirt free of blood?

talking about motive and lack of understanding of rationale, normal people, why you would hurt your family. that is why the prosecution has been hammering the who, that primarily what matters is who and secondarily is why. it is unfathomable to us to think about killing a loved one, they talk about shame. the prosecution closed by saying shame is an extraordinary provocation for this person, his ego couldn't stand that and he became a family anilator. great lengths to discuss the purpose this family thought they had, entrenched history in the county. the grandfather had his portrait hanging in this courtroom, trey gowdy worked with their dad. the taint on that family already existed, it wasn't well kept secret there were flies in the ointment and in that county,

hundreds of which have been incarcerated because of them -- >> harris: executions they have adjudicated. >> the notion of shame or some way bringing that delusion of power, that cannot be understated. you will never explain away why you murder your loved one, here they are providing reasoning that for this family, image, shame, everything was everything to this man, he was a sociopath. lisa boothe that would be better motive than to distract. regarding speed, how fast does he normally drive? he knows the roads, he probably goes to his mom's house, she was not doing well, how many times per week. >> harris: that was not raised by the defense. >> lisa: how fast does he normally drive? some people are speeders. >> harris: good for the defense to bring up, sometimes they are.

you mentioned you could understand the killing perhaps of paul because -- >> to be clear, i would never kill anyone. >> harris: no, no, i didn't say you would, i mean in erm its of motive, it is legally not necessary. what is interesting about that is the evidence shows that maggie at one point was survived, she was surviving and running toward her son. he actually from the evidence, from the forensics was shot and killed first. i don't know, we can't get inside his brain, there are some issues with what the motive could be based on even how they were killed. now you have to kill a witness. >> why would they have gone with motive of this is a crazed sociopath, who was on drugs, when they say to distract from financial crimes, i believe when the defense says, why would you

distract from pending investigation to put yourself in the middle of a murder investigation firestorm. it makes no sense this would distract, it would put you in the center, we don't need a motive, this man is nuts, there are sociopaths and that is what you are looking at. >> the evidence was so strong it was incontro vertible, he was watching implosion of his empire and thought he could get away with the murder, ducktails with my commentary on the hubris of this family, lack of accountability. this family allegedly murdered a housekeeper that had a horrible drunken boat crash and tried to placate that family. quick point and we have to close, this is against the landscape of suzanne smith, where a mother murdered her children in south carolina, led the media on this man, i was carjacked, the cops knew it was

her and she was convicted and jury declined to levee capital punishment on her, she is upcoming eligible for parole. this county is no stranger to family annihilation, they are being fed with here is another motive in line of tragedy. >> harris: they were supposed to take a five-minute break, we will get back to the trial when it resumes. >> kayleigh: president biden facing backlash about his comment about fentanyl and border crisis. rebecca joined harris, she lost both her sons to fentanyl poisoning in 2020, she explained pain pills they took were laced with fentanyl that came across the southern border. she tore into lawmakers for not doing enough to stop that. >> you talk about children being taken away from their parents.

my children were taken away from me. 100,000 americans every year are having children, 200,000, because it is both parents, right, having children taken away from them. this should not be politicized, it is not about race, fentanyl doesn't care about race. talk about welcoming those crossing our border seeking protection, you are welcoming drug dealers across our border. you are giving them protection, you are not protecting our children. >> kayleigh: it shouldn't have been politicized, but it was, marjorie taylor greene posted this distraught mother's testimony and tweeted our government is failing our young people, thousands are murdered by fentanyl each month and joe biden is doing nothing to stop it, my heart breaks for this poor mother, here is how the

president respond said. >> president biden: shouldn't she amazing? she is very specific recently saying that a mom, poor mother lost two kids to fentanyl that i killed her sons, interesting thing is that fentanyl they took came during the last administration. anyway, i don't want to get started. >> kayleigh: the audience of democrats did not laugh with him, she says she was struck by his response and she is demanding an apology, here she is last hour. >> he joked about it, he was in room full of democrats and amongst friends. what kind of person does that? >> kayleigh: wow, harris, such an emotional interview and our president started by saying, i probably shouldn't address that, listen to the internal voice.

>> harris: she laid out the story and three died that night, the drug dealer was revived by narcan, the young woman with them lost her life. maybe the president didn't hear and needs to hear over and over again, this is happening to unseen people because unless a cluster like this, it doesn't get reported on, she made that clear. that is important for people to know, she is giving a voice to hundreds of thousands of family members and friends and teachers and people who love young people who are missing them today. i don't know why he would focus on politics of the moment, it is always trump's fault, it is amazing and disgusting. it caused him to disconnect with what we were all seeing as a human moment from a grieving mom and reconnect with politics. i mean, it was -- well, you see

the world's only heart donor is what went through my mind, it is heartbreaking to see the president of the united states react to tragedy that i wa, consoler-in-chief, where are you? >> kayleigh: last year we had data 100,000 overdose deaths, 200,000 were fentanyl. when you look at cbp data, you can toggle with data, when you put in fentanyl and southwest border, you see 2020 fentanyl seizures go up, 2021, higher and 2022, you see, more fentanyl crossing the border. >> douglas: and see stories everyday in the city we are sitting in, people think fentanyl is problem of flyover country or someone else or state they didn't visit much, other people. they don't realize it is people just like them losing family

members, it is not just homeless people in new york, it is people across every part of society, including this city, young professionals in the city have been overdosing because of fentanyl in recent weeks, we see cases of this. unless a cluster case, it just washes through. this is we often talk about crisis in this country and this is a real crisis. it is tragic to see the president react like this. tragic to see that smirk on his face as if i got off this blame because this is a trump thing. this is not a trump thing, not a biden thing, it is an american thing we have to address. >> it has gotten worse and worse, take a listen to dea administrator, she said she has seen nothing like this before. >> what we see happening in dea, there are two cartels in mexico, the kyrsten sinemaaloa cartel

killing americans with fentanyl at catastrophic rates we have never seen before. >> unprecedented, lisa >> lisa: harris, i could feel the emotion, that must have been heartwrenching. for the biden administration to address this crisis would be admission of guilt, border policies are failing and allowing crisis to take place in america. i want to say something about him, the callousness 've laughing at her, this is who joe biden is, deemed consoler-in-chief because he has suffered so much loss, that is a sword and shield throughout his political career and he is a prolific liar and engaged in this type of behavior repeatedly throughout his career

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>> are you -- >> boys. >> every last one of us. >> you are not all boys. >> so. >> harris: what? >> lisa, what do you think? >> lisa: i'm over this agenda-driven entertainment by the left. they say things are inclusive, if you are excluding boys, how is that cluesive? i appreciate governor desantis taking on disney, revoking special status, more republicans, if the left wants culture war, give them one. governors need to stand up to woke corporations. they are on camera, disney executives, bragging about indoctrinating children with sexual agenda-driven plan. chris ruffo leaked the video. if the left wants culture war, give them one. >> why do you have to change

what so many people love as their own identity, why not create something new and leave the original peter pan as written alone because it is beloved part of many people's childhood they want to pass to their children in the same way. >> amen, don't mess with the classics. disney ran a super bowl ad for the 100th an have versery, it was beautiful. it went all the way back to mary poppins and lion king, classical films that allow children to dream. it is amazing they don't learn from their mistakes, had to fire 7000 employees, strange world was a fail, here they are doing it once again and the whole point of the boys, they hadn't seen a girl before. >> harris, it is remarkable, animated films were created,

some in the '20s and '50s, the ones that hold water today were created decades ago. >> harris: someone had to tell you, you are so young. >> they were almost trying to create prior to the caribbean franchise, what can we make, what blockbuster film can we make to account for the fact we lost dollars in the market recently in shares and our tax-exempt status is gone, seems they are trying to create something out of different origination. leave it alone and create something new. >> harris: i love that idea, great question you asked and great way for companies to navigate the dei, that equity part has them stumped, diversity part don't know it includes high percentage of people who see as person of color, ourselves, differences, how we think and we are not in lock step with one

another, diversity is about that, your background. they are flexing, they think there is hunger and thirst for all of us to be the same and trying to make us believe in the same way, that is not diversity. they are undoing everything they are working toward. what lisa said is the lisa i know, if democrats want a culture war, lisa is ready for you. and i think a lot of people feel like why can't we do both, why can't we love what we have and always have had and its goodness and funny and they want to clean up everything. not every statue needs to come down, how will you measure progress if you don't know where you have been, that takes us beyond disney, disney is part of history. there are stories people want to change, look at dr. seuss, they want to undo that. it is a lot. >> others besides disney, uk is

changing writings of roald dahl. >> douglas: that is right, everything from the past has to be rewritten to suit present day, everything coming out of entertain. has to do the strong woman thing. i say this with great hesitation -- >> harris: you are surround by four of us. >> douglas: they seem to think we don't know there is such a thing as a strong woman. >> harris: you had a mom. you obviously had a strong woman in your life. >> douglas: hope you are watching. the prequell to "lord of the rings," just again and again, they have scenes implausible with the woman breaking the chain and beating up the men. >> she won a war in that movie. >> douglas: like they think we

don't know these things exist, like they think we don't know about diversity and the result is everything you watch these days and read has this preachy, boringness about it. i said to a friend, i want to see films i've already seen, rewatch stuff. i don't want to watch the new stuff, it is always lock step in the same boring, woke thing. peter pan is a great classic, lost boys is a moving idea, becomes more moving -- >> harris: are they going to change the song? >> douglas: which one? >> harris: peter pan and lost boys, are they going to change -- >> douglas: they will try to change everything, everything from the past has to fit us. >> that prequell, it went ashley talking, got to go. more "outnumbered" in a moment. now i have this. this is inspire.

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♪♪ >> an appropriate song, last but not least, president and the first lady creating a feeding frenzy online as they ordered the same dish at an upscale d.c. restaurant, both went for the rigatoni, salad, and bread and butter, and a glass of wine as well. who chooses the exact same thing as family or friends? guilty as charged. we have that in common. >> my husband and i like to be a little frugal when we eat, sometimes we'll get one big dish and then split it and appetizer or something different. >> my boyfriend and i do it all the time. we get the same thing but we hate it and like oh, gosh, no, you get the burger, because we -- we want to try as many things as possible but we have the same taste. if i was at that restaurant i would have gotten the octopus

and the scallops. that looked better than the rigatoni. >> i didn't realize i was a weirdo, if someone orders something you are thinking about getting and you don't like the dish, you are like i should have ordered that. >> order entry. >> somebody orders the same dish as you, i think disappointed. >> no! >> all right. "america reports" now. >> that's great. >> john: thank you. 2024 presidential campaign kicking into high gear as two duelling high profile republican gatherings take place with activists and donors battling over the future of the party. as former president trump headlines the annual cpac conference, several rumored challengers are at the club for gross private retreat, including florida governor ron desantis. >> what will it tell us where the republican base lies? byron york is here to break it