i would like to look into that too. i know we took a full hour, and i really appreciate you all, give these guys if they can of applause. and i promise all of you, i'll be bringing up jill biden back up tomorrow night but thank you for coming that is all the time we have left and thank you for being with us and make initial possible please set your dvr same never miss an episode in >> laura: i am laura ingraham and this is "the ingraham angle" from washington tonight or. >> the state versus richard alexander murdoch indictment for murder, guilty verdict. of the state of south carolina county of colleton and the court of general sessions the july term of 2022. the state versus richard alexander murdoch defendant indictment for murder, verdict guilty. >> laura: that was the moment reality set in for alex mur murdaugh, the sound of an elite

south carolina family. found guilty on all counts in the murder trial of his boyfriend. son. it was so quick and in fact the judge did not offer a dinner. according to reporters in the room, his only living son, buster, sat in the gallery shaking his head in disbelief. but he did not appear to shed a tear. the trial really to turn after the jury saw key piece of evidence. it was a snap to video taken by paul murdoch at the dog kennels just minutes before he and maggie were killed. listen. you are going to hear three separate voices. [indistinct] >> it is beginning. >> it is a chicken. >> come here. >> catch.

>> laura: he maintained that he was not there. but one witnesses said he was their voice, murdoch admitted the lie. here is why. >> as my addiction evolved over time, i would get any situations or circumstances where i would get paranoid, thinking, and it could be anything that triggered it. once i told of the line, i mean, i told my family. i have to keep lying. >> laura: the defense was hoping that a lack of physical evidence would help them into the bouquets. to stay investigator have not found the family owned rifle that they say he used to kill is why, nor have they found the shotgun used to kill his son, paul. but the prosecution banged on none of that matter and like the light of him being at the kennels. they sold the jury on alec murdaugh's decades of deceit.

>> everyone who thought they were close to him, everyone who thought they knew who he was, he has fooled them all. and he fooled maggie and paul, too. and they paid for it with their lives. don't let him fool you, too. >> laura: that was a bralen close as we now know tonight. joining us now, a former prosecutor and criminal defense attorney and frances hakes, a former federal prosecutor. let's start with you. were you surprised by how quickly the jury came back with the decision? >> yes because all those things that we were calling reasonable doubts were merely questions and to this day, they might not even know the answer to those questions. he does.

how he was able to avoid getting blood all over him and how he was able to clean it up, how he was able to clean up that crime scene, those were just questions that we thought might give the jurors pause and may lead to a reasonable doubt. but they saw through it. one thing that they did not have any doubt over was his skills. so we can take away a -- allegedly we now know what a monster looks like. it is unbelievable how cold and calculating this guy is. it is so disturbing and he is right where he needs to be. >> laura: francie, the fact that he was really bawling on the stand, i mean, he was really conjuring up those tears. a lot of people that you listen to talking about it were not taken in by that and i really believe that he thought emoting on the stand it was risky. but that he could pick off one juror with his emotions. am i reading that correctly? >> you are, laura. that is exactly what he thought and that is what every defendant

who takes the stand is told by his defense team or things on his own. all he needs is one juror, he only has to persuade one that his fears that his blood -- that his sobbing would generally felt emotions and regret and even grief over the deaths of his wife and son and if he was just that grief stricken, his theory when than the jury would never believe that he could be so monstrously evil as to kill them. >> laura: another point about the sister-in-law of murdaugh testifying for the prosecution, there was a moment that was overlooked by some that i thought was very significant. watch. >> i asked him, i said, do you have any idea who said this? i said, we have to find out who would do this. and he said that he did not know who it was, but he felt like

whoever did it had thought about it for a really long time. just did not know what that meant. >> laura: mark, that was an odd moment. you see someone else did it, what is your theory? someone who thought about it for a long time, like he had thought about it for a long time apparently. >> so disturbing and he just, you know, he did not plan on, okay, if not him, then who? it did not make any sense to anyone of us. okay, if it was not you, then someone else came in and did this? knowing they would be in the kennel? using your weapons, alex? and then somehow getting away undetected? that never made sense so at best he was hoping, aha, there's a reasonable doubt in this thing because i planned it with two guns. you see how clever i was with my trial lower -- lawyer. they did not buy it. they always knew it was him. three hours since we are just going to sit back here make sure

it is unanimous and come on back real quick and sent a message. >> laura: there was another line, francey, from murdaugh's testimony that really caught my attention. watch. >> i would never intentionally do anything to hurt either one of them. >> laura: the word "intentionally" used there. i dunno if he was hoping to get off on some manslaughter, lower instruction on that. but that was odd. >> it really was. i would call that leaking. i would call that unintenunintentionally leaking. he does not quite mean in the stress of the moment that is relative -- relevant tory to the rest of us. although i still think that was a lie because mark just made a great point. he did use two different weapons and to make it there was only one reason to do that and that is to make it look like there

were two separate healers so that means was premeditated. he planned it in advance. he used those two weapons and fired multiple shots into the bodies of his wife and son with two different weapons and some sort of planned to put the crime on someone else and make himself look innocent. >> laura: mark, just really quickly, if he cannot take it that gamble in taking the stand, murdaugh and gilbert mind, would it have changed the outcome at all. >> no. he has to. he was buried after the state rested their case. this was the hail mary. he needed to go there and try to convince them. i don't think it would have made a difference. he was buried. he had to explain why he lied about not being there on the scene which the jurors just could never get past. none of us could. you know. why would you lie about that if you were innocent like the mona lisa? >> laura: a lot on the liar but not the murderer.

all right, mark and francey, thank you so much. we are going to have more from the ground in south carolina in just a bit. but now, the democracy offenders act that is the focus of tonight's angle. the blowhards and the democrat party want america to believe that they are the true saviors of democracy. they will take almost any opportunity to evangelize on that topic. >> when people doubt that elections are on the level, that is the beginning of the end of this wonderful democracy. democracy starts flying out the window in some other form of autocracy. it comes anyone conspiracy theories like the big lie are allowed to grow. also what could happen on january 6. >> laura: lame, blame, blame, chucky, but how are democrats respecting democracy. it flies out the window when the proposed and tries to usurp congress participating power with billions and billions of student loan forgiveness?

of course, the supreme court is going to a strike that down just like they struck down is unconstitutional vaccine mandate for a large private companies. nice try, joe. if the biden team cared about preserving democracy, the system, they will not be pulling this nonsense. and they are also spitting on our democratic system when they repeatedly failed to hold the fbi accountable. when the public sees how the doj targets conservatives and then lets liberals skate, well, faith in our rule of law shattered. >> let's take a look at the hardened criminals that their justice department's in these armed agents to win terrorize on that morning. here they are. here they are at mass. here is the seven children with mr. houck and his wife. he has offered to turn himself in and this is who you go to terrorize. >> the politicization of the department is a problem.

and you can tell your department not a chance in hell we are going to be reauthorizing that thing without some major, major reforms. >> the job of the united states of marshals is within the -- >> the answer is no. >> laura: garland was thoroughly unconvincing and so much for the concept of fitness for office. any official who cares about the process, a minimum must be physically and mentally capable of doing their job. they have to be capable of managing a crisis, a process -- of processing information that is sometimes complicated and even details that are conflicting. yeah, no one on earth leaves tht joe biden is calling the shots in either foreign or domestic policy. that man has trouble remembering the names of his own cabinet members. his own supreme court justices and world leaders. >> president biden: i want to thank the fellow down under.

thank you very much, kapalka want to thank the former general. i keep calling him general of my -- the guy who runs that over there. those are the words of [indistinct] jackson. ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ ♪ happy birthday dear [indistinct] ♪ ♪ happy birthday to you ♪ >> laura: the man does not even know where he is on any given day and we are supposed to believe that he is directing our ukraine policy? >> president biden: welcome to community center. actually, that is the one down i used to work. it is a joke. anyway -- [laughs] [applause] >> mr. president, thank you. >> president biden: the values reflected and then age -- bri -- iiiii. [laughter]

>> laura: okay, there's actually nothing to laugh about. it just is not all there. the press hated tromso match that they were really into play defense for biden. ultimately the country elected a hologram and as a result now, pivotal decisions affecting our nation's future are being made by kind of a combo of bureaucrats, technocrats, or obama holdovers for whom no one voted. so this is how i see the days of voting for biden and the white house. the chief of staff, jeff signs, tells biden what type of weapons of the general's and biden nods, i am 100 tanks, okay, give them a bunch. susan rice pushes some executive order on new equity standards and biden motors, sure, why not? but joe usually orders my food with msg.

no msg. he does not know the difference. contrast biden with trump. you know, the staff brought proposals to him. he considered them. he brought in opposing points of view. he was the oval office pretty much all day. he had the different voices argue in front of him. he wanted opposing points of view. that he made decisions. he was a hands-on leader. no one thinks biden is hands-on. hainsey,. now, the voters know the truth. they were hoodwinked. the results of the survey is terrible news for joe. nearly seven and 10 rendered voters now say he is too old for another term and more democrats agree 48% that disagree. 34% with that view. yikes. the people get shafted and democracy, remember, they are protecting it. it seems like a joke when we have a figurehead president. and speaking of charades, what

about the people of california who voted to reelect dianne feinstein almost five years ago? she turns 90 in june and has been in poor health for a long time. this description from the l.a. times about her condition was in 2018. as feinstein campaign, it was clear she had lost more than a few steps. speaking to a large gathering of democratic activists a month before the election, the senator seemed heavily scripted and controlled by a staff. and lean on others to answer questions during a limited give and take. not that there's -- there's any will -- anything about that sound familiar? and now feinstein is in the hospital missing 11 votes because she has a case of the shingles which you probably know causes agonizing nerve pain. it is terrible for her part and it is corrosive to the democracy. the 40 million californians deserve an active senator capable of answering with questions.

it should make all of us both sad and mad. and what about the poor people of western pennsylvania who are exposed through the east palestinian derailment fallout? no one is doing anything to help us, said patty barbara, who lives in darlington, pennsylvania, less than 1 mile from the spill site. pennsylvania is being left out. who is fighting for them in the senate? well, not john fetterman. he is in the hospital for the foreseeable future for political depression. meaning pennsylvania has only one functioning senator. now, what a warped view of democracy that is. the press, the state democratic party, and federman's wife, giselle, all of knew the guy was a mess and they did not care. they pushed him to run anyway. so now the people of his state terrified of this toxic spill need their senator at present and he can't be there. of course, though, the reason

biden does not want to travel to israel and the site is because we don't want to see our present attached to a teleprompter at a time like this. we want a conversation. from a man who understands the issues and is clear about the solutions. will, that eight in biden's will house. -- ain't in biden's will house. >> president biden: i have spoken with every official, democrat, republican, on a continuing basis. i have laid out what i think the answers are. >> laura: no rush. what about the reassuring the people there? let another month passed. the only thing that our defenders of democracy care about is making sure they win in 2024. and if it means blocking and tackling again for biden, they will do it. >> when will you announce your reelection, sir? >> president biden: when i

announce it. >> laura: who ended up doing more damage to the nation's democracy? the man who wrecked our economy and bungled the withdraw from afghanistan or those riders who stormed the capitol building? hit the answer rhymes with hyden. that is the ankle. joining me is charlie, opinion editor. this is wild. they are obsessed with the january 6th narrative. we are defending democracy against the trumpeters and they are going to usurped the next election and at every turn, biden is doing stuff that is unconstitutional. illegal or completely out of his depth. >> it is truly extraordinary and when you think about it, all of these supposedly democracy cowboys they like to attack people on the right who talk about, who ask questions about the election or according to them. so mistrust in our election and me while they -- we have no idea

as you pointed out who is making any of the decisions in the white house and then of course, with the situation with john fetterman which is probably the most glaring example there is, this is a guy who had a nearly fatal stroke before the democratic primary in pennsylvania. democrats and with full knowledge of many people in the media realized that or determined that federman was their shot at beating a republican and slipping that see to the democratic party and they took a guy who was essentially brain-dead and ran into a campaign and of course now he is in hospital in capable, completely incapable of representing the people of pennsylvania at a time when they sorely need representation. and not only that, we get word today that john fetterman is introducing legislation to

congress. who is making these decisions? is john fetterman making these decisions from the hospital room? who is making these decisions? these people, that he democracy. they will do anything to destroy democracy. and the first way we should have known that is their view of democracy is they began attacking us for asking questions about the last election. >> laura: the biden is looking i think at this point, given the crime rate and so forth everything that is happening that is concerning americans versus his own kind of sister soldier moment. here is the current gem here today. >> does not support the dc council, the changes that they put forward over the mayor's objections. wanted to make sure that we are keeping communities safe, he believes the dc community deserves that. they deserve to feel like as if they are going to be safe. >> laura: senator lindsey graham observed that. if you have any doubt that

president biden is going to run again, i think it's a decision to not veto this resolution h is the best indication yet. the democrats in the house had a team reaction at an anonymous house democrat told the hill, so a lot of us who are allies voted know in order to support what the white house wanted and now we are being called out to dry. lawmaker continued, acting amateur hour. charlie, maybe there's a democrat crackup coming. >> and if there is, this is the first glimmer of light between biden and leftists in congress. because joe biden has given the far left wing of his party everything they have ever asked for and what is so surprising about this veto today or his signing this bill and doing the dc law is that this is the administration that has done everything they could to encourage crime, to sew this

unity among racial groups in this country. they have led criminals out of jail. they have encouraged rioting. they have got rioters out of jail. they have done everything they can to undermine law and order in this country and then suddenly they change their tune, something is going on. >> laura: charlie, it is great to see you tonight. thanks so much. and this is a fox news alert. the town of south carolina is breathing a sigh of relief tonight after a quick deliberation from the injury in the murdaugh case brought back a guilty verdict. now, we're going to take you out into the ground with how the scene unfolded outside the courthouse tonight. and what comes next for all of those details, we go to a multimedia reporter austin westfall. what can you tell us tonight. scrub basically because this verdict came in at such a late hour, the judge is opting to hold off on sentencing until tomorrow morning but we did hear from the prosecution just

moments ago. take a look. they said that they could not comment on sentencing because it is still pending. after speaking with some folks around town, there's a major sigh of relief tonight. the community of walterboro, south carolina. the murdaugh family is a big deal around here. the grandfather's portrait used to be hanging over the wall. the judge had it removed before the traffic a prosecutor explained with this conviction means to the community. >> justice was done today. it does not matter who your family is. it does not matter how much money you have or people think you have. it does not matter what you think how prominent you are. if you do wrong, if you break the law, if you murder, then justice will be done in south carolina. >> reporter: now that murdaugh has been convicted, the minimum sentence is 30 years in prison, max would be life in prison.

court is doing tomorrow at 9:30 eastern time. that is when sentencing will begin. >> laura: and austin, when are we expect to hear from the defense team? >> reporter: so the defense team did walk out of court today. they were weak with their words. they said that they are obviously disappointed in today's roads but we expect to hear from them precisely an hour after the sentencing happens tomorrow morning. >> laura: thank you so much. democrats are in a precarious decision —-dash precarious situation because they can't sell the american. look on any of their policies. we know they are not. so they have to push this idea of scarcity is going to actually be good for you. and what they are saying as they try to argue that it is guess what the losses are piling up. inflation has shown no signs of evading eggs despite the white house talking points, the senate controls social democrats included -- just killed biden's esg investment role in a stunning rebuke. and the supreme court as i said

earlier, is likely to give him a huge loss over that student loan gamut. so who is he who is he going to call? well, not the cosp ghostbusterst garland. >> we are securing evictions for a wide range related to the january 6th attack on the capitol. >> laura: what does that mean? one thing after garland made those comments, the department of justice said that former president from can be held liable in court for actions of others at the january 6th u.s. capital riots. joining me now is david schoen former trump impeachment lawyer. there's so much wrong with this starting with the fact that these people don't want actually the voters to decide trump's faith. they want to short-circuit that and try to tie him up in court. but how legally, you know, if

possible or believable is this theory? >> you know, you are dead right on, you know, jerry nadler said a couple years ago we can't trust the voters. i use these extra measures to get to a person trump. this is another case that is focused just on the special rules for president trump. it is -- with the justice department said it is a president should not have absolute immunity if he engages in speech that is likely to cause in context imminent violence and then produces violence. it goes against the case law. nixon versus fitzgerald, 1982 case, the president has absolute immunity. that is not answer the question entirely but what we know is the president is different because of the multifaceted job. the president must be able to speak emphatically on issues of public concern and speech is different. i will give you an example. what they say is people who are hurt in the january 6 events should be able to sue president ramaphosa inciting the violence. he is the president of the united states.

speaking on a matter of public concern. there's a coalition against racism that vehemently against racism. here is about a clan rally nearby. they invite president biden to speak and he says to them, racism is the scourge of our nation and we must stamp it out wherever it appears. can you believe the collectors are down the road having a rally? the people from his group beat up the ku klux klan and now they can sue president biden. they want the ku klux-ers suing biden? that is an analog. >> laura: what about the civil liability of this failure of government agencies, to put the proper procedures and manpower in place when we now know from that, you know, that review of all the evidence, they had plenty of warning that something might go awry here. and they were throwing flash

bombs into the crowd doing all sorts of coach is their civil liability there? maybe that is a liability. >> it could be. limitation on the actions against federal agencies. but here if you know there's a specific danger to prepare against and you don't take proper precautions and people are hurt, there's a potential theory there. >> laura: if you're going to start stretching it, the legal understanding like a piece of silly putty, you better watch out where it ends up reaching. >> that is right. with the court said here is the person is different. this relies on separation of powers concepts. we are tearing these concepts down for the "go get trump" laws that we come up with. the first amendment is too important. >> laura: they want to take them off the, you know, of the campaign trail. that is their goal. a don't want to have to actually face the voters.

david, thank you. as we await the release of tens of thousands of hours of previously unreleased video from january 6, there is another stunning cover-up regarding the committee. now, they had 100 boxes of records which were left abandoned and it is unclear if all the g6 defendants had access to them. we are only learning about this because it was mentioned in a continuance motion from one of those defendants. this comes as the new pope lines 80% of americans think that january 6 tapes should all be released. and 61% say it is likely that undercover government agents helped provoke it. joining us now is julie kelly, senior writer. author of "january 6." julie, let's start with these boxes of records. you say there's been a massive uptick in the discovery for the defendants' cases.

what are you talk about? >> there was a motion filed by one of the defense attorneys representing the january 6 defendant just this week and he said that there was a huge trove of discovery that was just uploaded in the past month or so that the department of justice has withheld from defense attorneys now for two years, laura, this is in addition to what we are finding out about tens of thousands of hours of surveillance video that we did not know existed that the department and capitol police have withheld from the public and also from defense attorneys. and now you will remember, laura, the promise of the january 6th committee, that they were going to produce all of this evidence about what happened. they were going to make it public. and here you have over 100 boxes with materials inside, abandoned by this committee, not made public. so this is why you see the one thing that the american people seem to agree on right now is

they want more evidence about what happened on january 6. they want all of the videos made public. they suspect very strongly rightfully so that federal agents were deeply involved in the events of that afternoon. and that is not suspicion. it is not a conspiracy theory. we know this because it is coming out in trials. it is coming out in evidence and government witnesses who testified about numerous in ordinance run into the so-called militia groups months before january 6. laura, people are starting to wake up to the fact that what they think they so happened that day is not the full story. and the more that the gove government, the department of justice, capitol police and house democrats and the media, by the way, continued to conceal the important exculpatory evidence about the true events of january 6 and the more that the american people are starting to ask more questions, and you will see, laura, from

christopher wray's' answers this week and merrick garland yesterday, they are not prone to telling the american people the truth about anything. >> laura: julie, this is such an important issue because it is going to be used in 2024 against republicans. that it all needs to come out and we actually need real journalists to start being journalists again and not actually arguing against the release of this information. i have never seen anything like a picture list saying, no, the note don't give us any information actually, thank you. pete buttegieg's mentee, a gay activists mayor was arrested on 56 counts of child porn. the report in moments. every das need to get to where they're going. and at chevron, we're working to help reduce the carbon intensity of the fuels that keep things moving. today, we're producing renewable diesel

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>> laura: pete buttigieg's mentee was just arrested on child porn charges. kevin corke has all the shocking

details tonight. >> reporter: 47-year-old patrick line is a regular guest at the white house and he is the first openly gay man to observe there. he is facing felony charges including possession of child sexual expletive materials and dissipation of child porn. he was branded as something of a role model for lgbtq youth and reportedly has even been mentored by secretary pete buttegieg who obviously will recall and a small college town mayor. police were tipped off by the national center for missing and exploited children about a cake social media account with child porn on it and it led to the former mayor and he is now out. in search of his home, multiple cell phones, a storage device, a

tablet and a computer. now, amazingly, laura, the -- they actually issued a statement noting that he had been on the job since 2015 and was the council since 2007 and then they actually thanked him for his many years of dedicated service. now, charging documents show that he admitted to police that the kik account did belong to him and that he had viewed and had possessed child porn. sources told fox news tonight that more voters are expected in this case and now the city will have to have a special election to replace the now outgoing mayor. >> laura: carabin, thanking him for his dedicated service. it is unreal. thank you so much. another thing that might be weighing on biden is his family's legal exposure during yesterday's senate hearing, biden's hatchet man at the department of justice, merrick garland, is work he is going to remain in hands off on the investigation.

>> the matter of hunter biden in the hands of the u.s. attorney for the district of delaware who is appointed in the previous administration, plans not to interfere. the attorney in delaware has -- he has full authority to make those kind of referrals that you are talking about or to bring cases in other jurisdictions. >> laura: former fbi assistant director and frequent angle guest chris walker is not buying it. >> he knows what he is supposed to do. he is the surrogate for the administration. he can pledged that he won't interfere all he wants but there is no reason why the u.s. attorney in delaware should be sitting on this case for well over a year. >> laura: what is taking so long? joining me now is james comer picture of the house oversight committee. mr. chairman, do you agree that there's something fishy going on with this elongated timeline?

>> there's something very fishy. there's no-no better example of the two tiered system of justice than what we are seeing is happening with hunter biden. he has over $2 million in back taxes for years and years. yet nothing was done about it. he has charges. he has probably more bank violations than any american that i have ever seen and i come from a pretty decent banking background. this guy, if you look at what stephen miller released today with the documents that he obtained through a request, you can make a very easy argument that hunter biden was an unregistered foreign agent. that is a very serious crime. and the list goes on and on. money laundering and even worse. but yet nothing has been done and we have not even heard a peep from this delaware u.s. attorney. it is very odd. everyone in america is keeping up with this case. merrick garland continues to act like he does not know anything about it. he is staying out of it.

i don't think anyone believes it. >> laura: and of course, the new york times is backing the doj's handling of the probe about hunter biden saying that joe biden should clearly call for his son to cooperate but not with the republican circus on the hill. what would the justice department -- that would let hunter biden stand on his own and allow the administration to focus on issues that matter most to the american people. so congressman, clearly they are worried that you all might actually uncover something and frankly, just state what is on the record in a persuasive manner. not that the media will cover it. but we will. >> look at how the mainstream media has changed just in the last six weeks just since we have taken over and i have become chairman of the house oversight committee. the media has gone from all of this was just a witchhunt. to now, there's probably some wrongdoing there but we don't need to put the biden family

through all this with the republican circus. we need to merrick garland do the right thing and he will do the right thing. the media has done a complete 180 on this already. everyone realizes the evidence is out there. what they -- has really scared of laura is the fact that just this week we have spoken with four people that were involved in the biden family influence peddling schemes. they are coming forward now. they are starting to cooperate. our attorneys are working with their attorneys. so we are making progress with this investigation. >> laura: just the way they treated president trump at mar-a-lago with the way they held back the information of the search and the finding of these classified documents at the biden residence and the slow roll of all that information. i mean, just that tells us what this fbi and justice department is all about. this is political bias ingrained in our legal system now and they are supposed to be the defenders

of democracy? really? >> yeah, no. and you look at what the general counsel for the national archives admitted was that he was not allowed to post things on the national archives website about the biden mishandling of classified documents and he was not allowed to respond to me because the doj or the white house, it was one of the two, block him. he could do whatever he wanted on the trumpet mishandling of classified documents. >> laura: the lawyer, one of the lead lawyers or top defense lawyers quit hunter biden's legal team. what does that say about the state of this case? >> it says a lot. i want to hope that that lawyer saw so much evidence of settlement that was abusing his power, abusing his family's name at the expense of american national security and he walked away or it could be because the new lawyer on the team, albiol,

is doing some things that i think are getting real close to crossing the line. so either way, this is a sign of disarray in the biden camp and i think you're going to see more spin coming out of the white house and more calls for either a special counsel or for some way for merrick garland to come in and save the day and block us from our oversight. >> laura: well, hunter biden better do more of that blowhard if he is going to pay the bills. congressman, thank you. alcohol, free food, even pickleball courts. we are not describing a good private club. these are the perks some companies are offering to get the snowflake in place to come back into the office just two days a week. but if you can believe it, it gets even more ridiculous than that. i have all the details next.

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♪ ♪ >> laura: if you can believe it, it has been three years since the pandemic was declared. so why only 50% of americans back in the office? maybe a better question, why are employers now getting to a broad remote workers to return for only a couple days a week? a piece from "the new york ti times" today saying at orchard, a real estate company, employees were recent lee greeted with a

rumble of bar card going past their desk while offering beverages filled with six-point ipas, seven young punk even perks like that are not enough when amazon told employees to come back just a few days to come back while the corporation was met with petitions from 20 something-year-old entitled brats. one assistant said, i prefer to work from home. i have that choice stripped from me based on purely speculative observations. it does not sit right with me. joining me now is charlie here, founder of turning point usa. charlie, this is so sad it is so shocking yet i guess it is kind of predictable given what the government did paying people not to work. >> it is totally predictable. some people say working from home is just as good. working from home is like watching a fireplace on youtube. you can hear it. there's no -- you are not able

to have that one on one interaction. i'm a traditionalist. we have people who have to work at remote. am adamant in-person office work is better for you. it is better for you to have a commute, better for you to get out of the house. i think that most young people don't even know what they are missing in some sense because so many of these younger workers actually had their entry into the workforce as remote work and then to bribe them to win in. maybe they need different employees. i think it says something about the fragility of this younger workforce that they need some sort of luxury five-star resort camp in their corporate environment to get back to work. i'm a traditionalist. i don't think that people should be in an office. it is better for the employees. >> laura: maybe those are not essential workers. they should look for other work. even though no one asked, tiktokers who work from home are kind of showing us what their

daily schedule looks like. check it out. >> riveting day of my life. i did the dishes. i had some extra time so i made breakfast and then i caught up on e-mail and made a snack and got some steps in and of course, diet coke break in the middle of the day and i ate my lunch and then caught up on more steps while finishing my tasks. >> laura: charlie, they are essentially doing nothing all day. nothing. >> if anyone was torn on banning tiktok, just look at that video. you got your steps in and you have to mention the diet coke. at this point, tiktok is infecting the youth of america and then we are incentivizing young high school is to instead go film themselves statistically to make millions of dollars instead of actually going to the workforce and do something meaningful. it is one of several reasons why i think tiktok needs to be banned in america. >> laura: i think the office is good because you are with people and when you go to an office

especially in the city, you are giving life to the city. i don't know what the liberals are going to say when these cities are starting to die. they are beloved cities that are dying. because no one is going to work. what happens then? charlie, it is always great to see you. thank you so much for joining us tonight. up next, dr. jill gives a rare peek into how she cares for joe. we will tell you next. but as you get older, it naturally begins to change, causing a lack of sharpness, or even trouble with recall. thankfully, the breakthrough in prevagen helps your brain and actually improves memory. the secret is an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. at stores everywhere without a prescription.

>> greg: we all know who holds the key to joe's 2023 plans, dr. >> you are his spouse but you hold a lot of input. one of the -- what are the areas you offer him advice on? >> certainly i tell him stories. and things that i have seen and things that people want and where their challenges are.

so it is not that i'm weighing in. it is like let me tell you what i saw or what i heard or what people are saying to me. >> laura: good night moon. some advice if you are trying to dispel the notion that he is too old to run, maybe don't start by saying, i help him by telling him stories. greg gutfeld takes off from h here. [cheers and applause] ♪ ♪ [chuckles] yeah. yeah. all right. i want your hands to lead. i'm kidding. it maybe. happy thursday, everybody. it is a glorious thursday. tonight's big question, why are young liberals so depressed especially when compared