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it is like let me tell you what i saw or what i heard where what people are saying to me. >> laura: some free advice from joe, if you try to dispel he is to to old to run maybe dot start by saying i hope by m stories. greg gutfeld takes it all from here. ♪ ♪ >> todd: breaking right now, disgraced attorney and now convicted murderer alex murdaugh awaiting his fate. we are ours from the sentencing hearing later this morning is after the jury finds him guilty of killing his own wife and son. you are watching "fox & friends first." i'm todd piro. >> ashley: i'm ashley strohmier and for carley shimkus. waiting years for and it took the jury less than three years to deliver it. >> they came back as quickly as they did in a case where they heard 28 days of testimony, six
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weeks with complicated series of circumstantial evidence even though incredibly powerful family in that county. this jury didn't look at him that way. >> within 5 minutes of taking the witness stand, he he he utterly destroyed his alibi. the evidence was overwhelming and had more holes in it than swiss cheese. >> no one else's voice was on that snapchat but it is. they didn't seek the death penalty, but you will spend the rest of his life in prison where he belongs. >> ashley: former prosecutor is on deck with his expert legal analysis. >> todd: jackie ibanez live in new york city newsroom, jackie, good morning. >> good morning six weeks, 70 witnesses and three hours of deliberations for a panel of south carolina jurors to find alex murdaugh guilty of ordering his wife and son. >> guilty verdict. signed by the four lady 3223.
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>> murdaugh with a straight face when it was red and escorted out with handcuffs. his son shaking head in disbelief while wiping his face with his hand. the man's expected to be sentenced on two counts of murder and possession of a weapon with a violent crime. he is facing 30 years to life in prison for each murder conviction. according to "the washington post," prosecutors did not seek the death penalty in this case because "the state would have to prove there is an aggravating circumstance which would include murdering a child, murdering a witness for potential witness to a crime." the prosecutors argued the disgraced attorney shot and killed maggie and paul in sprawling south carolina state to shift office of financial ruin and fraud charges.
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justice has been served. >> it doesn't matter how much money you have or people think you have. it doesn't matter what you think how prominent you are. if you do wrong and if you break the law, if you murder, justice will be done and south carolina. >> in a statement to fox outside of the courtroom, murdaugh's attorney said obviously we are disappointed, but we will have further comment. to mourn this morning 9:30 eastern time. ashley, back to you. >> ashley: we bring in nominee for arizona attorney and former prosecutor, and thank you for being with us, what are your thoughts how quickly the jury brought back this guilty verdict? >> good morning, ashley, good morning todd. three hours it takes to go through the documents and sign off on everything peer to talk
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about six weeks of testimony and being at the trial for that long and for the jury to come back in three hours, basically that means there wasn't much to debate whatsoever. they knew when they went back in the jury room, they all agreed that he actually did kill them one of justice. three hours isn't much time but looking at the prosecutor, they did a good job because they had no direct evidence. all circumstantial evidence. so to return a verdict this quickly is a good sign the prosecution laid out its job and laid out the case and understood it appear they weren't beholden to the fact that his family was powerful. it is a good day in america in the most powerfully connected men and women could be held accountable. >> todd: into the jury make up its collective mind? what was the key moment when they determine alex murdaugh was guilty? >> may beat as soon as he took the stand.
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that was, a lot of these defendants had so much humorous and one smart like him and he is a former prosecutor. he probably thought he could lie and manipulate his way. but juries are really good at sentencing flyers peer that is why we use this jury system. i thought probably when he testified the first 5 minutes when caught up in so many lies, they did a good job of poking holes to try to come up with. this is why it is so important and so key that the jury system is protected and why the juror was actually removed when just trying to talk to other people not involved in the case. if you remember how to change the jurors with alternate juror because we had to make sure not influenced by outside forces. this is a good day for the justice system ultimately. but if you look at the theory in the case, so many circumstantial evidence and it is actually a difficult case. there is no murder weapon and
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the motive is kind of suspect. but they have presented a case that they came up with. as a prosecutor, it is hard to get in the mind of some of these defendants and the mind of some of these criminals here they did a good job of relating information to the jury and actually comprehended. three hours again is basically they went in there knowing he was guilty and sign some documents and gave it back to the judge. >> ashley: that is what i want to talk about here at are the chances that the jury just had fatigue because this was a complex case and so long? right, sometimes, what we think is the most complex case turnede for the jury to decide. i've had so many cases where i thought the jury would come back with a guilty verdict and it took them days only to come back with a not guilty verdict. generally prosecutors are happy when the jury comes back so quickly.
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this is one of those cases where pretty much if you watch the trial, we kind of knew it was going to go this way peer of circumstantial evidence was enough for the jury to say he actually come in fact, killed his wife and son. i want to stress how important it is in the justice system for the powerful to be held accountable. that is why it is so critical members of these juries actually were not swayed by his influence in that town. this is why it is really important to protect that system of justice and law in america. some left-wing prosecutors for instance to go after somebody with the most people. it doesn't suit their interest. i commend him for taking on the job and especially the whole country watching it not just here but netflix document series, amazon and it seems like america was already part of the
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jury long before the actual trial started. >> todd: did you see anything during the trial too late for grounds for an appeal? >> i don't think so. the prosecutor, he was very meticulous. there was a lot of people critical of him especially tv attorneys, but the real good prosecutor understands these cases are complex and it doesn't have to be so theatrical. he was very good at letting alex actually be able to hang himself here the fact that he took the stand i think was such a mistake on the defenses part but ultimately a defense attorney cannot control the client if he wants to. i don't think that did him any favors whatsoever appear the prosecutors did such a good job of keeping all the politics out of it and keeping the emotions out of it here that is what it's okay. i don't think there is many appealable issues with this peer they are not seeking the death penalty so the stander will be
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lower. we will see what the sentencing is like tomorrow but i don't i'm not sure there are mitigating factors but we will ultimately see what the judge decides to rule in sentencing. i don't think it will be a good day for him today. >> ashley: will quickly what were your thoughts when buster and his reaction and a lot of emotion from murdaugh throughout the entire trial. what did you make of that? >> it is tough. we've never been in that situation before. obviously, he probably still loves his father. it is difficult when you are dealing with the next of kin within your own family. so, it is hard to put your head wrapped around that. i feel bad for this family. i feel bad for buster. i feel bad for the members of the community affected by alex murdaugh 'deception and narcissistic behavior. but i think there will be some
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justice in the sense that his mom and his brother ultimately, there needs to be justice behind it. the prosecutor laid out the facts as best as they can. although there were not murder weapons found, the circumstantial evidence was so convincing to the jury and to everybody watching at home that obviously he killed his wife and his son in brutal fashion. and he did it was such a cover-up in mind, it made it so scary and so premeditated. i pray for buster and i hope he can find peace in all of this. >> ashley: wherever you stand on this case, you have to remember this young man has lost his brother, his brother, and essentially his father because he's not going to be able to have that relationship with him anymore. abe hamadeh, thank you so much for being with us and giving us your take on this. we appreciate it. >> todd: thanks, abe. >> thank you.
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>> ashley: hundreds of chicago residents gathering in a prayer vigil to honor the life of a fallen police officer who was killed in the line of duty on wednesday. >> chicago police officer lost one of our brothers here and law enforcement lost one of their brothers. his family lost their brother. >> his grieving wife joining a memorial just hours a man with a prior arrest was charged with her husband's murder. >> investigators say he was shot and killed responding to a call that a man was chasing a woman with a gun when 18-year-old stephen fired in close range. the officer returned fire striking the suspect who is still in critical condition. the accused cop killer is facing three felony charges for the murder. montana was arrested last summer with another shooting, but he was only charged with the misdemeanor. officer lasko's was five year
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veteran of the force and only 32 years old. now a tragedy in buffalo, new york, the firefighter killed in reaching fire. fallen hero jason was trapped inside of partially collapsed building and unable to escape. shocking footage taken during the response show first responders getting knocked over by an explosion that may have been a back draft. the cause of the fire is still under investigation, but officials believe the workers in the area were using a torch which could have started the fire. >> todd: oakland, california, district attorney pushing to lower prison time and abolish enhancements for convicted criminals even for murderers. a leaked memo from the county d.a. panel proposing a new radical bill and me with short prison sentences in an effort to bring balancing back to sentencings, this new directive captures the d.a.'s office
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vision of justice. my guess is that doesn't jive with the victim's vision of justice. one of her own employees sounding telling the daily mail a catastrophic mail to safety. prices it will be finalized by the end of the month. democrats lashing out at president biden, democrats because president biden didn't sign a back resolution with canceling the decent crime bill. the justice system giving lighter sentences to criminals. congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez responding to joe biden's decision saying, "d.c. has a right to govern itself like any other state of municipality. the president supports a d.c. statehood, he should govern like it. plenty of places passed laws that the president disagrees with and he should respect the governing of d.c. as he does everywhere else." this is less about d.c. sovereignty which is what aoc wants to make it out to be but
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this is about crime and safety. people are worried about the safety and the white house take a look at your calendar is 2023, next year an election year and they see a trend across the nation. we've got an election coming up. we have to go back to being tough on crime allegedly peer that is what this is all about. >> ashley: as much as i despise democrats bashing the other party as to why they should not be in office or in charge come i think the republicans should and could use this to their advantage, especially when it's obvious democrats don't care about the safety of their concern with lowering the repercussions for carjackings. people don't feel safe. look at mayor lori lightfoot this week. she was pumped by moderates but promised to keep the city streets safe. if this isn't proof joe biden will run for reelection because he's trying to do a more modern stance but he did run because he
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was more moderate and the people's president, but i think this is another push he is going to run. i hope he tries to work with the republicans even if it does make it because we need someone who works with everyone. >> todd: it shows how an disorder of the democrats specifically on this issue. but to your point aoc push their left to make criminals have it all. and in chicago, we've got to have more cops we have to have more safety in the city. he won and will run the runoff but the republicans need to take advantage of this fracture force the democrats to basically republicans on this issue because in the end the american people will benefit because extensively the world will be a lot safer. >> ashley: i don't agree with what he does, the president does a lot. i do agree and support that
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move. i'm not sure a lot of democrats do. >> todd: also the constitution the way d.c. set up allows for the government, the federal government to control the seat but this is the way the rules are written. >> ashley: tens of thousands of americans killed by fentanyl, but one official in one of the countries hardest hit cities say it is racist to worry about it. watch this. >> people are going crazy over fentanyl because we start to see more white people dying from the drug. >> todd: how do you think that comment will go over with families who have been destroyed by the drug? one mother watched her son write this addiction here with a reality check. ♪ ♪ (tony hawk) skating for over 45 years has taken a toll on my body. i take qunol turmeric because it helps with healthy joints and inflammation support. why qunol? it has superior absorption compared to regular turmeric.
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♪ ♪ stop what you are doing and take a look at this, footage of a deadly crash in baltimore that took a building into a pile of rubble. kalas unfolding after the police tried to pull over a driver in a stolen on day. he slams into another car, barrels into a bye standard by standard and immediately crumples on top of the red car. >> a civilian vehicle needs medic. >> my gosh, look out the building chrome bold. the pedestrian died at the same
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but the suspect only charged with stealing the car. releasing a footage after the fact is investigates the crash and whether officers followed proper protocol. ash. >> ashley: thousands of people are dying from fentanyl overdoses every year but one supervisor appears to have an issue with the intention the crisis is getting lately. >> people are going crazy over fentanyl because we are starting to see more white people die from this drug. but where were people when my mother's and grand mothers were on drugs? there has been a drug issue in this country for a very long time. but there is no way we will stand by and allow people to say that when race or immigrants are responsible for the fentanyl deaths. we are talking about people who are dealing with the abuses
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themselves. >> ashley: a san francisco residents whose son battled fentanyl addiction. thank you for being with us. he is right there has been a drug problem in the united states for a long time, but it is almost like he's not paying attention about this fentanyl as has gotten, especially the last several years. someone who has seen what this has done to your son. what do you make of those comments from your supervisor? >> oh, my god, i am appalled. i think what he is saying is lunacy. i'm deeply offended by what he is saying. he is making it about a race issue. this is a human issue. he is saying that we should, i'm sorry, he is saying that our black brothers and sisters,
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grandmothers and mothers are dying from the cr epidemic. where were they when they were dying and now they are making a big deal because white people are dying but i'm sorry, white people, brown people, white people are dying too appear this doesn't need to be about a race issue. i feel like he is saying that we shouldn't do anything about it because undocumented immigrants are being targeted and i'm sorry, it is a fact in san francisco at over 50% of undocumented immigrants are the ones who are selling for drugs and able to get away with it because they are being protected by the sanctuary laws. so what? we are not supposed to do anything about it because no one is there to save our black brothers and sisters, but yet we should let white people die from it and not do anything about this? he is making it so much about a race issue when it is a human
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issue. so what? should we let a white man die because he looks white? i don't think this is really fair of what he is sagging. he is also stating that we shouldn't violate sanctuary laws. we are not trying violate -- it is such a strong word. we are trying to end these laws and dealers selling illegal drugs to our people who are killing them. >> ashley: tonya come i want to talk about your son for a second because you know about this firsthand here this is your son on the screen, tell us how he is doing and how this started? i guarantee you never thought you were going to have to deal with something like this. so tell us about him. >> okay, absolutely not. rogan like most get started experimenting with drugs at a
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young age. he was probably 15, 16 years old. back then, drugs were not at all lethal and potent as they are right now. so, he was just your normal, average kid experimenting with drugs. but as you know, drug started to change. they weren't educating our kids about the changes of these drugs. then he developed and addiction. once that addiction got started, he continued to do drugs and quite honestly, i didn't know much about addiction or even the hard drugs he were doing. but eventually, he did become addicted. and then, a few years ago, he ran into fentanyl. i think it was like maybe a year and a half, two years ago. we all know fentanyl is a lot more potent and a lot more addicting and it led him to be homeless and on the streets. he almost lost his life a few times. >> ashley: i have to ask about that. has he ever expressed to you
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that his addiction to fentanyl because it is so lethal that it scares him that he will overdose? >> absolutely. he was absolutely scared. matter of fact, he overdosed a few times and ended up in the hospital. there were times we didn't even think he would be able to make it. roman has tried many times to get off of this drug. right now he's trying again, he is in treatment and he just got out of jail and landed in jail because he got on some type of drug that sent him to psychosis and he committed a crime. he wasn't aware he committed a crime and went to jail for that crime. >> ashley: this happens to so many people. i mean, this drug does not discriminate and it should not be about race. what should be done is putting a stop to this. we need to close the borders to make sure the cartels cannot get
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this lethal drugs into the hands of the american people. tanya, good luck. we are praying for you guys. >> thank you so much. >> ashley: of course. the people of east palestine, ohio, are absolutely furious after the rail company ceo skips their town hall for a second time. >> i'm begging you, please -- >> are you proud of that? >> speed to the norfolk southern ceo was a no-show but president biden is planning to visit more than a month later. we have a live report appearance but when the red carpet, aoc in sarah's hot water over make a gala appearance and that dress. details after this.
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>> our makeup is not the same. the chemicals could be affecting people differently. >> you know! >> todd: east palestine residents unleashing on norfolk southern officials in a town hall. the company ceo did not attend for a second time second time. >> ashley: president biden said he will attend at some point. lucas tomlinson has been at east palestine and he is here. good morning, lucas. >> good morning, ashley and toad. it has marked one month for the train derailment and east palestine but since the disaster, president biden plans to visit but failed to offer specifics. >> [indistinct] >> i spoke with every official
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in ohio, democrat or republican and i will continue in pennsylvania. i laid out what i think the answers are. >> as you mentioned showed up at the town ohio but many are furious. >> i'm begging you, by the grace of god, please help our people. >> [indistinct] are you proud of that? >> has there been any talk? >> there has not. >> do the right thing! >> we are going to do the right thing. >> a spokesman for norfolk southern defended his response. >> right now, they will be an evolving conversation. we are going to get that done.
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and sometime on march 28, 29, depending on good weather, we will start cleaning up. and we will be done. >> to date, nobody has died from the derailment but the concern is long term health concerns due to the release of toxic chemicals. property values have plummeted and former say nobody will buy their crops. some of the clean off crew sounding to the white house, "when norfolk southern acquired about appropriateness of protective equipment in the safety of the working conditions, they have received little or no response from norfolk southern officials. the lack of the safety is a basic norfolk southern cost-cutting business model." the governor tweeting his concerns about the toxic chemicals shipped to his state effectively directing our administration to contact nationally recognized laboratory and rigorous third-party testing
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for dangerous levels of dioxins and material transported to the roach tail facility from the east palace team train. residents tell fox 12 they want to pass to make -- visiting sports teams don't want to play them and what they call his dearest derailment but others just don't trust them. >> todd: how could they? it's been a month and they don't have answers. lucas, thank you. asheville, north carolina, demanding the city leaders address searching crime and homelessness making their streets dangerous. listen. >> we have bagged, peeled, pleaded, cajoled, implored, solicited for you to take action to make nashville safer. >> i'm afraid to go to work. i've never felt that way before. >> the tourists will not come here if you don't have good policing. >> why are you all refusing to protect the residents of
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asheville? it doesn't make sense. >> todd: the coach of asheville coalition of safety. representing the coalition of the asheville neighborhoods and anthony, the local company and business owner, all three join me now. helen, give us examples how bad it has gotten there. >> the city has become completely lawless. in all of this drifts over into our neighborhoods. we live about 15 minutes walk away from the city. three nights ago, one of our local residents, the house was broken into, robbed, beaten, in these and the hospital. he's in bad shape. he is an elderly man 70 years old and he did nothing, but this person gets released with a relaxed d.a. and a magistrate that sets a low bail bond and it's, you can come to asheville and do anything and nothing will happen to you.
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the police can arrest you but you will be about in the streets pretty much right away i'm back to doing whatever you want. there's a lot of nonprofits to support folks of camping, homeless and their encampments and no one seems to care. the word is out in the street if you want to be a bomb, come to asheville. >> todd: bailey, that description by helen sounds like los angeles or new york. not a nonmellow conic town in asheville, but you have seen 31% surge in violent crime in asheville over the last five years. helen did a good job explaining why, but one thing we need to mention over 100 officers left the department since may 2020 leaving the department 42% down and force. bailey, is anyone listening to your concerns? >> it definitely seems like they are getting ready to try to listen, but we don't feel heard. we have been trying for over a
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year to get the attention of local leaders and city officials. while the support is increasing on that front, we are not getting a plan in place at all as to how they will mitigate public safety and the crime that is happening in the city. so i think what we are looking for is equal if not more of an investment in a plan for public safety and for increasing the police force as it is now. without them, we will continue to decline. speed went they to reimagine public safety leaders in the town, your city, that is. this is what happens when you reimagine the way some folks want. anthony, you are trying to run a business but how tough is that especially when asheville, north carolina, is a tourist. you need bodies in your city in order to make a living. how tough is it for you right
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now? >> it is really tough. every day we are affected by this issue. i own two restaurants that we operate. we've had exposures, people exposing themselves, and getting people's reaction, theft, vandalism and staff or guests and we've had paraphernalia and soiled clothing, human waste, break-ins, theft. that is just a week. it's only been one week. >> todd: anthony, follow up if you simply hire cops not you put the city of asheville come up with them on the street, do you think most of the problems your folks encountered the last five years would simply disappear? >> first of all, i have a lot of like the police officers, the
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department, they are doing the best that they can. but they are just not well supported. it certainly will take the whole community. it will take us business owners, residents to all come together collectively. it can't just be put on the feet of the police. i even had a conversation with the mayor three months ago. i talked about this issue. her response was somewhat catty. she said, it is not illegal to be homeless. i'm talking about the subsequent behavior. let me just name some of the things that are happening. and she didn't like my answer. and i said, that is just the last two weeks, mayor. >> todd: that is an appalling response from the mayor. you are asking for help and that is the response you get? it shows the deep from the police movement and the leaders that push it, no matter a big city like l.a., tiny city like asheville or anywhere in the
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great country. consequences like you folks are experiencing are going to happen and that is why we need to stop it now, bailey, helen, anthony, thank you for your time. two russian billionaires have dodged u.s. sanctions. apparently, they hit the town with hunter and vp joe biden back in the day. wait until you hear the details of this latest report. >> ashley: deion sanders in controversy before he starts the football season as the new coaching. is there no place for faith on the football field? we are digging into that next. >> don't you ever tell me there are limits. don't you ever tell me what you can and can't do. ♪ ♪
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another russian tycoon were with a fresh batch of sanctions by the treasury department last week. the same pair reportedly met hunter and president biden for dinner in 2012 even touring right real estate with the president's son. link to hunter biden's business dealings in the past. back in 2014, $3.4 million in the bank account held by the investment firm hear the russian said they sanctioned a long time ago. speak to the house ethics committee found substantial reason to believe new york congresswoman alexandria ocasio-cortez improperly received gifts associated with the tenants the 2021 matt gallo. the complaints from hair and makeup artist and designer from tax the rich dress for delayed payment from congresswoman and a review indicates the congresswoman has paid for the rental value of the outfit worn to the event but after the review was opened.
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she can still owe thousands to other service providers we will continue to investigate. that same committee is launching an investigation into congressman george santos over accusations he will work pants and filmic campaign finance laws. the voters by making full statements about his education, bringing an career on the campaign trail but claims he hasn't committed any crimes. if the committee finds that he broke the law, the house could vote to remove him from office. sanders is finding himself at the center of religious controversy months before the season starts in the coach of the college of university. >> todd: has been criticized for religious freedom group. he sent a letter to the university of colorado that reads "the university of colorado to take action to protect student athletes improve domestic insurers sanders has been hired as a football coach and not a pastor.
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joe kennedy's former football coach who faced backlash for his faith and joins us now. coach, great to hear you but what is it when a reaction like that he is a football coach and not a pastor? >> it makes me laugh inside. episode ridiculous someone would have the gall to tell somebody who they are supposed to be, what they are supposed to say and do. it is crazy. >> ashley: what happened in your situation, joe? ultimately push back about what happened? >> i did the exact same thing. you get one little group or people that want to come after you because they h we have something that they don't have. and i had to fight for the past eight years for that right in the supreme court ruling said you can't pray on the food filmic football field. the first amendment means everything. >> todd: let's take a listen coach prime talking about god.
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>> don't you ever tell me. don't you ever tell me there are limits. don't you ever tell me what you are up against and what you can't do. and all the persons and the world, god chose me. for that, i thank you. for that i love him. for that i magnify him, glorify him, praise him. for that i owe him each and every day. i am trying to please him. >> todd: admittedly come i think we would be better off if we approach life like that, but that is my opinion. this also a supreme court case that went when you were fired and preying on the field. the supreme court said look, you can pray. and disorganization that brought this misnomer, you do have freedom of religion. you do not have freedom from
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religion and correct me if i am wrong, joe but that is the case you brought to the supreme court established. >> exactly, 63 ruling that the supreme court, they will not put up with nonsense. you can take a look around the united states and the world, and people are tired of everything. they will stand up with what they believe and appear to be have been silent too long and all of us standing up together to support people. >> ashley: you know especially with young, influential high school students. they look up to their coaches for guidance. what was their reaction? what did they tell you when this happened to you? >> my guys only wanted to happen is for me to stay on the football field. they wanted to give up their season. they wanted to walk away. your battle is on the football field. but they were behind me 100% because they knew i was standing for something that was right.
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>> todd: joe, that response to what you went through from your player speaks volumes in the situation that deion sanders is walking in colorado. they are horrible team but he will go in there and give these men hope here that will attract a lot of good players there and potentially put them in a much better position football wise going forward. so why do these groups, knowing that their team could actually do pretty well still attack a guy like deion sanders anyway? >> i think a lot of people are just scared and not really -- they are pretty much ignorant what the first amendment says. for years we've been under the assumption you have to remove prayer from the public sector at school. that is not the case. they can read it loud and clear, nobody should have to choose between their faith and their job. you know what, deion sanders has my back and if he wants me to come up there i would be honore. and we have really good people in america that would join him.
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i guarantee they would join him. >> ashley: of course. they said they must take action to protect their students but i'm sorry, there is a lot more things to protect their students other than talking about getting someone in trouble for speaking about god. john kjoe kennedy, excuse me yow book "average joe" hit stores in september. thank you very much. >> todd: thanks joe. convicted murderer alex murdaugh awaits his fate. we are just hours from the sentencing hearing later this morning. >> ashley: facing 30 years to life in prison. we go through the breaking details next. ♪ ♪ the adventurers and the doers. to everyone that works hard and plays hard. whether it's your first silverado or your tenth.
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♪ ♪ >> todd: breaking right now, the attorney and now convicted attorney alex murdaugh awaits his fate. we one hour from the sentencing. gunning down his wife and son in cold blood. good morning, you are watching "fox & friends first" on a friday morning. i'm todd piro or. >> ashley: i am as ashley strohmier in for carley shimkus. spent less than three hours deliberating before handing down their verdict. watch. >> to talk about six weeks of testimony and being in trial that long and for the jury to come back in three hours, that basically means there wasn't much to debate whatsoever. however, the murder
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