not good judgment in flower arranging -- beforehand you said she was going to win. [laughter] rick: it looks good just like this. with. will: tomorrow our faith and friends concert series continues with dante bowe. pete: have a great saturday, everybody, see you tomorrow morning. rachel: bye, everybody. >> not one of you stood your ground and said, i'm sorry -- [applause] if we're going to make this right. >> but we are sorry -- [inaudible conversations] >>st the not enough. are you proud of that? [inaudible conversations] >> we're going to do the right thing. [inaudible conversations] >> there are six houses right there and not one of you have had the guts to come out there and see if we are okay. >> i'm begging you -- please,

there are people -- [inaudible] [applause] neil: you guessed it, tempers are not easing right now, in fact, they were flaring this week in east palestine, ohio, where norfolk southern ceo alan shaw skipped this town hall. a company representative was there, he became more of a piñata. meanwhile, shaw himself is going to be facing senate questions on wednesday, but what about residents who want their questions answered like today, like now, like soon, like please? we'll talk to a concerned citizen who was at that town hall. and the national transportation safety board chair who says this whole cast was 100% preventable. jennifer holliday is here and only here. plus, forget the grand old party, is president biden's own party revolting on his promise to raise taxes in a new budget plan to be released next week? we'll hear from key democratic senator joe manchin who says you can't tax your way out of this

debt. and dangerous storms wreaking havoc across the u.s. at least 10 are dead as tornadoes rip through the south and snow pummels the northeast. our fox weather team tells us what to expect next. glad to have you this busy weekend, i'm neil cavuto. let's get right to it at the white house where we find lucas tomlinson on a president who's hinting of a visit, i guess right now, lucas, to east palestine the, but we just don't know when. what's the late? >> reporter: that's exactly right, neil. president biden speaking to reporters while visiting capitol hill late this week, says he's going to go to east palestine but biden dud not give -- did not give a date. >> do you plan to visit ohio -- [inaudible conversations] >> i have spoken with every official in ohio, democrat and republican, on a continuing basis as with pennsylvania. i've laid out a little bit in there what i think the answers are, and i will be -- the. [inaudible] >> reporter: as you mentioned,

neil, there was another town hall, and people seemed just as ang rz athey did at that last one. it's been over a month since the massive train derailment. >> how long is this going to take? i'm watching my family, they're dying slow are hi now in front of my eyes. >> [inaudible] when i went back to work. i couldn't breathe, and i quit my job. >> do i have to wait until i have cancer or my kids or grandkids are sick before you guys are going to do anything? that's not right. >> [inaudible] >> we're going to do that. we're going to do the right thing. >> i'm begging you. stop! please get our people out -- [applause] >> thank you! >> reporter: a spokesman for norfolk southern defended hi response. >> we're going to stay on this topic. right now this will be an evolving conversation that's going to go on for quite a

while. [inaudible] get that done, and sometime around march the 28th, 29th, knock on wood with good weather we'll start the north track, and we'll be cone by the end of april. >> reporter: neil, at least one east palestine resident, matt warner, who you've had on your show, he says the town needs to press on. he says he's worried about the kids. he does not want, if his words, the hysteria that amounts to almost the coronavirus type hysteria. he wants to see teams playing. he says kids right now are not playing, he's worried about baseball season, track season, that other teams are not going to show up in east palestine. neil? neil: yeah, that could linger for quite a while. lucas, thank you very much, my friend. then there is this: >> this was 100% preventable. we call things accidents. there is no accident. every single event that we investigate is preventable.

neil: i think you know that familiar face, jennifer holliday, the chair of the national transportation safety board, ntsb. chairman, very good to have you. you know, or you mentioned that this was 100% preventable as are most disasters, so, obviously, the onus lies on the company to make things right. but there were a lot of things that got slipped up, right? what are a couple that caught your attention? >> yeah. a couple for us, neil, and thank you for having me, is the wheel bearing. the wheel bearing overheated. we know for a fact that the derail arement occurred -- derailment occurred at car number 23, and that wheel bearing was hot and it failed. what we need to do now though as part of our investigation is to really dig in and figure out what management systems or what policies, practices were in place that the set the conditions for this derailment. what allowed it to occur, and

then we'll figure out what safety recommendations we'll issue to prevent it from reoccurring in the future. neil: you know, there's another issue and maybe this goes outside your direct purview, but that the company didn't feel compelled nor was it legally compelled to warn towns in advance of hazardous materials on this nearly 2-mile-long train. i don't know how true that is, but a lot of people since have said, well, rules on that have to change. >> yeah. the ntsb has issued recommendations on this very issue, and, in fact, made comments in 2014 to the u.s. department of transportation to make sure that that advance notification to emergency responders was not just limited as it was in that final regulation to flammable liquids, but was really applicable to a broad array of hazardous material so that emergency

responders are properly trained, that they have the right equipment and that emergency response planning is occurring between the railroads and those on the ground that would have to respond to any sort of derailment. now, i've taken training with the firefighters in the past on hazardous materials response, and they absolutely need to know what's going through their communities so they're adequately prepared. that is an ntsb recommendation, and we hope that's acted upon. neil: we're learning as well, chairman, that these cars sometimes are sort of contracted out, in other words, if you need additional cars for a train, you get them from an outside source. i mean, what are the company's obligations, in this case norfolk southern or any other rail concerned, to make sure those cars are up to snuff, the bearings are right, they don't risk falling off the tracks? >> well, everyone bears

responsibility. first, you have to make sure your tank car is safe, and that could be from any of the leasing companies, it could be from a company that's transporting their materialses and they've loaded the tank car. but certainly, the entity that is responsible for transporting these commodity es -- commodities, they have to insure that those train cars, those rail cars are inspected, that they're adequately maintained and they're safe for movement. that is their responsibility. neil: what about, you know, a company's past record? norfolk southern did not have many blots on its prior record with transportation, all of that. derailments i was surprised, you know far more than i do, chairman, but are quite common. obviously, something of this this gravity where you have hazardous waste that is also getting derailed, that changes the picture. i get that. but that there was nothing egregious in the record of norfolk southern to hint that it had to be more closely

scrutinized. is that true? >> well, you know, i haven't -- i myself have not looked through norfolk southern's record. i do know that our investigators will look at that their past history, of course, as part of the investigation. what i will say is that there are over 1200 derailments and collisions annually on our nation's rail system. but it really only takes one. you know, most of those derailments are pretty minor. some occur in the rail yards, and you might not have anything that spills. but it only takes one, and this is a perfect example of where we need to improve safety and focus on strengthening measures as we go forward. neil: as things stand? now -- stand now, can you see something like this happening again? >> it could occur again, absolutely. i've seen it in the past. i remember one investigation that we did in 2005 also

involving norfolk southern of a chlorining tank car collision in graniteville, south carolina. it was a terrible, terrible tragedy. a 5,000 people were evacuated, chlorine gas killed 8 people. that was breached out of tank cars, released out of tank cars. and 500 people went to the hospital with respiratory difficulties. there's always room to improve rail safety, and so that's where the ntsb comes in. and to let your viewers know, we are not the safety regulator. what what we do is we investigate these accidents, and our recommendations are just that, they are recommendations that anyone can implement. usually voluntarily by the industry, and and, you know, we have a working partnership to make sure that our recommendations are implemented, and then we have people on our team to to work with those

entities to get them to implement asian. neil: -- implementation. neil: those recommendations, properly, carry a great deal of weight. thank you very much, jennifer homendy, chair of the national transportation safety board. in the meantime, i want to go to erin ellison, erin was at this town hall meeting that got a little raucous. erin, did you get any answers? i know there was a norfolk southern representative, not the ceo, alan shaw was not there. but any answers to your questions or concerns, aaron? enter yeah, for sure. they talked a lot about whattest thing that they're going to be doing over the next few weeks -- what testing. that's a big concern for me. i have a wife and two small children, and, you know, we love east a palestine. we want to stay here but only if it's safe. and i think that they are going to be doing what the epa, national and cdc are doing, a lot of testing over the next two weeks and, hopefully, we get

that information. neil: do you think that the company is hiding anything? i mean, i know i've talked to a number of those who were at the same meeting that you were at who just feel that the company's not been up and up and not even been there enough, much more concerned about, you know, getting the tracks back up and trains running than you and your town up and running. is that, is that a concern of yours? >> i think one of my biggest concerns coming from the meeting is they are going to start taking up these tracks, i think they actually started yesterday, and cleaning up the mess underneath the tracks. my biggest concern is how bad is it? can they truly clean it up? you know, i have to trust them because at the end of the day, they're going to be tasked with cleaning this up, and i hope the epa will hold them accountable. but, you know, i'm not an expert on chemical spills and, unfortunately, we've got to trust somebody. neil: we're getting hints from the president that he is open to visiting east palestine. we don't know when he might come. would that that matter to you

one way or the other? >> i mean, it's been a month, there's no reason for him to come now. he's going to get in the way and just slow down the process. neil: so let me ask you about the recommendations right now even from the epa. michael regan's been back and forth, the administrator, as you know, aaron, and he has said the drinking water is fine but at the same time warning kids shouldn't play in the creeks. bit of mixed messaging there, does that concern you in. >> i think the drinking water is safe. it comes from wells, you know, deep in the ground. however, the creeks are not safe. they're highly contaminated right now. and i think the fear is could that contamination ever reach, you know, our drinking water whether it's the city wells or personal wells that people have. i think that's the fear that most citizens have. neil: my best to you and your family, aaron. you'll get through this. people have been remarkable through this. allison of east palestine about the future there. meanwhile, the future for

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there, that's exceptional drought. it's the highest category we have. and we had that drought going on for a long time, and that's really where the bread bass can debt is of america -- basket is of america. lowest level of drought, in a lot of cases the drought wiped off. that's great news. we have more snow coming in here over the weekend, a lot of the areas in the sierra nevadas maybe another 3-4 feet of snow, the northern mountain range, the coastal ranges as well. but southern california not going to be dealing with this at all. so we get more beneficial snow pack across parts of california. all right. that storm that we had that brought the snow to southern california also this week had a 3-day severe weather outbreak. we saw 78 tornado warnings in effect and really strong winds from this. tennessee, 98 mile-an-hour winds. because of that we have a lot of people still without power, over 400,000 homes in kentucky without power. this storm moving now just the last little bit of it across parts of the northeast. some snowed today, by the time we get to tonight, it is gone.

neil in. neil: thank you for that, rick reichmuth on that. meanwhile, the very week that we learned it looks like alex murdaugh is going to be spending the rest of his life in jail, his defense team says we have ample grounds for appeal. charles watson with more on that. charles. >> reporter: neil, good morning to you. curl his sentencing hearing, alex murdaugh refused to take accountability for murdering his wife maag dwi and his son paul on the family's plot in 2021. he told the court they had the wrong guy. >> i'm innocent. i would never hurt my wife maggie, and i would never hurt my son paul. >> reporter: judge clifton newman was quite frank in talking about murdaugh's conduct throughout the trial and the investigation. newman said this was one of the most troubling cases that he's had to preside over, and he went on to say that murdaugh's behavior was deseatful the whole way through. >> the tangled web we weave, what'd you mean by that? >> i meant when i lieded, i

continued to lie. >> and the question is when will it end. if. >> reporter: in under three hours, a jury convicted the disgraced south carolina attorney of two counts of murder and two counts of possessing a weapon during the commission of a violent crime. that verdict came after weeks of testimony including from alex who was forced to admit that he had lied for almost two years about not being at the murder scene. he made the revelation after multiple witnesses identified his voice on a a snapchat video recorded by husband son paul moments before alex killed him and his wife maggie. his lawyers said he was essentially forced to take the stand after the judge allowed the prosecution to use alex's financial crimes as a motive. >> we think the fellow courts will take a strong look at that. we feel like that is a very solid grounds for an appeal, and we're going to pursue that. >> reporter: according to one juror who spoke to abc news, it

was that kennel video and the lies surrounding it that made the decision overwhelmingly clear. more cough will next stand -- murdaugh will next stand trial on financial and drug-related charges. neil? neil: charles watson, thank you. in the meantime, you probably know by now i that chicago mayor lori lightfoot will become the first mayor not to get reelected in the windy city in more than 40 years. perhaps gianno caldwell was among the reasons. >> the mayor continues to gaslight its citizens, people who literally fear walking outside their doors because they don't know they've going to be murdered -- they're going on the murdered. so no matter what the market's doing, he's ready. and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill, a bank of america company. the innovative new hisense kitchen suite is only at lowe's. save on select major appliances + free delivery on items over $396. and enjoy a two year warranty.

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neil: well, it wasn't racial, in the end it was old crime. and chicago a mayor lori lori lightfoot is the first mayor to

fail at getting reelected mayor in better with than 40 year in the windy city, but it was crime that repeatedly undid her claims that things were getting safer there. they weren't, and gianno caldwell was always here and there to remind the world what was really going on. >> criminals love the leaders in chicago. the mayor, they love them. because they recognize that they can commit as many crime as they want. there's some victims in the -- so many victims in the city of chicago, so many that don't know how to pay for a funeral because they're so costly. how care her. do you think chicago's in need of a leadership change? >> absolutely. >> do you feel safe in the city of chicago? >> no. [laughter] >> do you think that mayor lori lightfoot and kim fox need to be tough on crime in chicago many. >> yeah. yeah. [inaudible] >> black lives don't matter to lori lightfoot, black votes do.

if you don't think that it's time to call in the national guard or get extremely tough on violence in chicago, then you're not paying attention at all. how many other people are just one number in the deck of homicides that occur on a daily, weekly or monthly basis many in chicago? i cannot allow my brother christian's name to mean nothing. as his older brother, i can't do that. his legacy will mean something dis, yes, we've got to push back on the soft on crime policies. neil: that, my friend, is called paying it forward and trying to get things to change and doing it as only one man who was a great brother and a great tragedy that didn't have to be. gianno caldwell back with us. gianno, i know -- >> thank you for having me. neil: -- to take credit for the mayor's defeat, but i think you had a lot to do with it. you were nonstop on this issue. i'm sure no matter who gets elected in the runoff, you're going to be the same. how do you see things going?

>> first and foremost, thank god. the experiment known as mayor lori lightfoot is officially over. how do i view this race right now? it's between two democrats who one has a sensible policy approach and the other one has what i would consider an insane policy approach which would get people killed. paul vallas is advocating for more police. he's supported by the chicago police union. he's advocating for school choice, he's also advocating for fiscal responsibility. brandon johnson, on the other end, has advocated for defunding the police which i believe is disqualifying for any candidate running for any office. he's supported by the chicago teachers union, and he wants to raise taxes in the city of chicago when you have businesses that are leaving left and right, individuals really that are hurting from extreme poverty in chicago and violence. people are afraid to go to work. so it couldn't be more clear of a choice for me even as a republican.

if i lived in the city of chicago, i would have to vote for paul value a las who is the democrat -- paul vallas because we need to save lives in the city of chicago. and we cannot afford to deal with someone who's worse than mayor lori lightfoot, and that's exactly what brandon johnson is. neil: she branded this racial -- >> the yes. neil: -- excuse. she was black and that was behind this. what did you make of that? >> i mean, she got in on identity politics, let's be very clear about that. she rode the wave of being the first black woman to potentially be elected mayor, and, of course she was. the fact that she was openly gay was something that national democrats celebrated. but what we saw was a very clear message. as i said before, black lives didn't matter to lori lightfoot, black votes did. and that's when she started to try to adjust citizens' concerns at the very end, it was too late. we've already seen so many deaths in the city of chicago, my brother included.

my baby brother christian, june 24th, lost his life for what? for what? she had a policy prescription which led to disaster. her and kim fox, they're both to blame. there's a lot of blood on their hands. and i'm not going to stop fighting this fight until we get to -- [inaudible] in office. i'm gong to be the stumping for paul vallas. it is about life and death right now, not about politics, neil. neil: you know, gianno, it's interesting that i think you started something that has gone all the way to the white house. the president, of course, very concerned about washington getting too lenient on crime with what's going on there now where you have the city council effectively shutting down the mayor's push to sort of toughen up on bail and these other issues. the president, of course, is dividing himself with many democrats who think that washington should stay the way it has been. what do you think of that? >> i think that, first and

foremost, the mayor was right to override that veto of -- the mayor was right to e veto legislation coming from the city council and, of course, overrid that veto -- neil: right. >> and that that's why a republican house was so important to try to stop that. and joe biden is right for saying, yeah, why would you lower the penalties for carjacking? why would you lower the penalties for a number of violent crimes? it makes no sense. and aoc is, obviously, jumping in the fray as a progressive when she knows that her policies, the ones that she's pushed and other progressive democrats, have led to lives lost. i think at this particular time when it comes to the crime issue, it should be sensible. republicans and democrats used to agree crime is a bad thing, and now we're seeing a split within the party. republicans are sensible. hey, you need to lock up those criminals, keep them in jail, let them serve their time, possibly let them be rehabilitated and democrats

don't even want you to go to jail. you go in, no bail and come right out and commit more crimes. this is lunacy, neil, and this is where we are in 2023. but it's going to take the voices of a lot of people to stand up and speak out in order for this to change. and i thank god for the people of chicago who used their ballot as the cure to this cancer of violent crime that a mayor lori lightfoot had been pushing from a policy perspective. this was not okay and, hopefully, we'll see change. and i'm going to insure that there is change in chicago by working as hard as i can to make sure there's a sensible mayoral candidate in that office, and that's paul vallas. neil: well, it started with you, young man. gianno caldwell, thank you. >> thank you, neil. neil: made it a mission in life to protect other lives. we'll follow that race very, very closely as we will what's happening in washington, d.c. through a big 180 on the part of the president of the united states. we are on top of that. also on top of more money coming ukraine's way but resistance

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neil: all right, more aid is coming to ukraine, but it comes with a backdrop where some in congress are concerned we're really not watching exactly where this money is going or whether it's going to the, well, for the war effort there existence russia. of course, that country is

building up a big offensive, we're told, that could be launched any day. let's go to steve harrigan in kyiv with more. steve. >> reporter: it comes at a really critical time as far as the battlefield goes as well. seven months of pretty much trench warfare between the two sides around the eastern city of bahkmut appear to be coming to a climax. russian forces have this city surrounded on three sides. they've trying to shell the only main road in and out, but ukraine is holding tough. they are trying to deny russia the ability to announce if a victory in the battlefield. so a brutal fight going on there, and it comes as the u.s. has just announced an additional $400 million in military aid for ukraine. a lot of this aid, this package, are the basics; ammunition -- especially ammunition for artillery including those himars, long-range artillery that the has given. but ukrainian officials are still pushing for more including advanced air power.

>> translator: to stop russia, we need artillery. that's what we need. that's the number one issue. we also need both systems and ammunition and a lot of shells. the situation is the same with aircraft. we have a shortage of aircraft, and we need to start pilot-training missions. >> reporter: the u.s. attorney general, merrick garland, is the latest member of biden's cabinet to come here to ukraine. ukraine is trying to build a case, a prosecution case against the russians for war crimes at scenes in villages and towns where there are mass graves where civilians have been killed or tortured, they're trying to gather evidence for what could be future prosecutions. neil, back to you. neil: you know, steve, when you're there and, of course, the residents hear constantly of this planned russian offensive and it's just a matter of time and when, but they always seem to be going about their lives. i guess they can't control what they can't control for the time being, but how are they dealing with that? >> reporter: you cosee people

going about their lives, and we go about our lives here on the streets as well. and when that air raid signal goes off, you're scared, and i think everybody's scare canned. but if you're further east, you know, you might be under the rubble. your apartment building could be getting smashed, and you just don't know. so there's fear because you don't the know where they're going to hit, and they cohit civilian targets, neil. neil: be safe, my friend, please be safe. steve harrigan. want to go to florida congressman mike waltz, sits on the house foreign affairs committee. for those who don't know, he's the first green beret to serve in congress, a combat-connect rated veteran. -- decorated veteran. congressman, always good to have you. >> hey, neil. neil: you've seen this move afoot in congress, congressman, about not necessarily denying ukraine aid, although some of your more conservative creeings -- colleagues are looking at that, but at least checking where that money is

going. where does that stand, how do you feel about these additional funds we've provided ukraine? >> well, neil, in a broad sense i still believe that stopping putin from slicing through ukraine and moving on to nato countries that would then drag the u.s. into this fight is the right move. if ukrainians are bravely willing to do the fighting and dying and they're just asking for the bean rain -- beans and bullets, that is in line with u.s. interest withs. however, we just had a hearing in the armed services committee about oversight. the department of defense inspector general is assuring us that they're not seeing leakage of this military aid to the black market or other unintended places, but i still have a lot of questions about how he can be so sure. there is a cap can on personnel that biden is allowing on u.s. personnel into ukraine. i just signed on to a letter imploring him and blinken to lift that cap to allow these

inspect generals from the state department -- inspector generals from the state department that's providing economic is assistance, cash right into the ukrainian government, that gives me a lot of concern from usaid and the department of defense inspector general to get on the ground, visit the depots, visit the sites and give the taxpayers the assurance that they should have. and, number two, neil, the europeans have got to step up. i was very disappointed to not see biden demanding more of the german chancellor when he just visited and when he was in to poland. right now we've provided 30 billion, the europeans altogether -- all together have provided less than 19 despite our economies being about the same. and so for the long run whether this goes into a long war of attrition or whether this is some kind of rebuilding effort, the europeans must take the lead. we simply cannot afford to once again take all the burden on america's shoulders.

neil: still, congressman, last week i had ukraine's ambassador to the united states here, and she kid sound worried about these -- did sound worried about these developments in trying to track down exactly where all these funds are going even though she potentially welcomed it and said the ukrainians have nothing to hide. of course, what do you expect her to say. that it could mean the u.s. sort of changing its mind about this war, getting tired of this war. what do you say to that? >> well, putin certainly believes that the west will grow weary both politically and militarily and that if he can just stay the course, keep feeding more men and materiel on the russian side into the meat grinder, that eventually support will wane. look, my question of the biden administration is our policy can't be just blank check until zelenskyy decides he wants to go to the table. we have to decide can what's in

our interests and drive the conflict in that direction. and i can't get a clear answer for the life of me out of the biden administration of what success looks like. neil: you know, congressman, you got elected in 2018. you moved into ron desan desantis -- desantis' old congressional seat when you did get elected, and i'm just wondering as he toys with running for president, who do you lean toward in the republican nomination? [laughter] >> well, neil, look, i think the governor's done a phenomenal job in governing this state. a thousand people a day are voting with their feet to come here. but what i'm pleased to see is president trump putting out a series of policy videos, reminding people of things that they may not realize he did, of the abraham accords, historic funding to historically black colleges and minority opportunity zones and how he would govern in crafting a

policy looking forward like he did in 2016 rather than looking backward. so, look, i think the next president's likely to come from the great state of florida, and i'll be enthusiastic going forward. neil: so you're not tipping your hand who you prefer. [laughter] >> look, neil, i think they both would, i think they both would bring a lot to the table. however, look, competition is good, and i wouldn't discount nikki haley, i wouldn't discount the others that are thinking about it as free market capitalists we like competition. it brings out the best. neil: all right. congressman, i would not even raise this question with you if you were here on the set in person, but you're remote. i had nothing to lose. congressman, thank you. thank you for your incredible service to this country as well. very good seeing you again. >> all right, thanks, neil. neil: we're following an oregon plan, get this, to give $1,000 a month to the homeless, no

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neil: all right, maybe we wouldn't have so many homeless in this country if we just gave them a check. oregon has sort of. crunched the numbers and said how because $1,000 a month sound to the homeless and low income residents and see what we get for that? madisonal madison alworth with more on what they're proposing. madison. >> reporter: neil, there are universal income programs across the country, but if this passes, it would be the first statewide program of its kind. so oregon is weighing a bill that would establish a, quote, people's housing assistance fund demonstration program. if passed, it would give homeless and low income people $1,000 every month. supporters say the funds would go towards rent and other living expenses, but the reality is the funds would be given out with no strings attached.

opponents say that this cash handout will not help to bridge the gap, and it doesn't address the actual problems of homelessness. >> when you look at a problem like homelessness and the root issue there, it's more than a need for a monthly check. these people usually need the help of another person, not a government program, to address the root problem of their homelessness. >> reporter: opponents also point out that a handout system using taxpayer dollars like this could further fuel inflation if. as i mentioned, this is not the first universal income program in our country. here in new york there's a pilot program that guarantees income for 2,400 artists in a no strings attachedded style. in san francisco they're giving universal basic income to 55 transgender residents. again, this would be the first statewide universal income handout. if the bill is passed, it would be in effect until january 2026. knievel? neil: thank you for that,

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♪ >> made a commitment to america that we would bring a milestone bill, the parents' bill of rights s ask that's what today is all about. it's about every parent, every mom and dad, but most importantly it's about the students of america today. education is the great equalizer. ask we want the parents to be empowered. and that's what we're doing today. letting you have a say in your kids' education, not government.

neil: and he might just as well have ad not school administrators or teachers. you, the parent. and that is something that nicole neily, who was at this event, very strongly supports. kind enough to join us now. nicole, there are a lot of people who were seizing on this and saying, well, why do this now? will you set up new rules and laws and restrictions that could be as onerous as the ones that are being replaced? what do you say? >> i don't think anything's being replaced. if anything, it's reit reiterating -- reiterating a lot of the rights that our public schools refuse to recognize; the right to petition our public school for a redress of grievances, the right to be heard, the right to be involved in our children's education and not have secrets kept from us. this trust is being violated on a regular basis, so the fact that the house has stepped up to fill this void and remind tabs payer-funded entities of their obligations is sad, but it's welcome. neil: i'm curious, how does this

become reality for a lot of folks? we're seeing some of the items, the right to be heard, protect your child's privacy, etc. how does that become the rule of the land? how do you make that happen? >> i think it's, you know, how countries go from socialism, you know, into socialism, slowly and then very quickly. over the past two years, the parents defending education in has been many existence, we have been receiving tips from across the country, almost everybody wants to be anonymous because they are terrified of realuation against themselves and their -- retaliation against themselves and their children. thousands of dollars in public records request fees, teachers that are mocking families for wanting to opt their children out of explicit lessons, parents finding out that schools are data mining their children. this is taking place behind closed doors and, sadly, most

parents had no idea this was taking place. neil so, you know, a lot has been said on the right this is about, you know, stopping what many have called the woke indoctrination in our schools. there are a lot of examples of that including efforts where teachers don't pass along to the parents things they've toll their very own kids -- told their very own kids. have you encountered that? >> we have identified, parents defending education this week is coming out with a list of over 120 schools across the country that maintain these parental exclusion policies that explicitly say that parents do not have a right to know their child's gender identity. that is interfering with our right to raise our children. it's a violation of our 14th amendment rights. we actually have a lawsuit in iowa right now about a district that has these policies. it's immoral and it's unconstitutional. neil: so where does this go, nicole? as you know, many on the left have said and those who back the teachers union, that this is intrusive. i find that a little odd because

last time i checked, you know, you are the parents and these are your kids, but what do you think of that argument, that this is something that's actually racist at its core and something that that isn't productive in the end, doesn't help the kids in the end? >> those are strawman arguments. is it racist for parents to know what their children are learning? is it race racist for parents to want to know how tour taxpayer-funded -- our taxpayer-funded schools are spending our dollars while children are unable to read? frankly, even before the pandemic our children's scores weren't good. children are in school for a finite amount of time, 7-8 hours, and rather than addressing reading, writing and arivet mic the, they're spending time on identity politics and secrets like this. it's unbelievable that this is the place we've come to in america, so to accuse parents of being racist or. xenophobic is preposterous.

neil: we'll see how it goes. nicole neily, making sure parents have some right in their kids' education. meantime, we're going to get the details next week about some tax hikes that the president's planning, but it's not just republicans who are getting upset about that. so are some prominent democratst o include including one joe manchin. after this. s best where two pairs and a free, quality eye exam start at just $79.95. book an exam today at americasbest.com. ♪ how do i do it all? with a little help. and to support my family's immune health, ... immune support formula. airborne. do more. veteran homeowners, have you looked at the interest rates on your credit cards lately? get ready for a shock. the rate on credit cards is now over 22%. if you want to save hundreds of dollars every month,

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>> you can't basically just tax your way out of debt. you can't borrow your way out of debt and you can't cut your way out of debt. neil: joe manchin, you'll be hearing more from him in just a bit. this, of course, is coming as the president is going into details on tax hikes as part of his 2024 budget. lucas tomlinson at the white house, what we could be getting and expecting, lucas. >> neil, the national debt right now is over $31 trillion. there is a lot of concern about the interest payments, with the interest rates going up on