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what's that all about one of the likely three suspicious death linked to the murdaugh family and starts back in the smith died from what the police believe was a hit-and-run. on a road not too far from the estate and smith family was never satisfied with that explanation. and as it turns out witnesses interviewed in the case pointed to a yet unfounded romantic relationship between buster and steven. now buster hasn't been linked to smith death but the one -- once closed case reopened during the state law enforcement investigation into paul and maggie's murder. then we get to 2018. the murdaugh long time housekeeper gloria she died

after alleged trip and fall incident at the family's home. alex murdaugh told family to sue him in order to collect insurance money. but they never saw a dime. authorities lost a criminal investigation in september of 2021 as murdaugh tangled web of lies well they were coming unraveled state law enforcement now plan to exhume the body. now that brings us to 2019 and a case that became a key piece of the murdaugh murder trial. the death of 19-year-old malerie beach that's pall's friend. malerie died after paul crash his boat allegedly while drunk paul murdaugh charged with causing the death and was waiting trial. but he was murdered. alex murdaugh tried to point that case as a motive for another suspect that had killed his wife and son. but we all know that is a lie and now thawrd manies of maggie and a paul murdaugh are

resolved, what's next for these cases? here now to discuss former nypd inspector paul morrow criminal defense attorney mark and crime scene analysis cheryl. thanks so much for join the program paul you've been covering this from the very beginning let's get your reaction to the end because i have to tell you i thought that the defense put up a good fight. but we're learning from testimony from the jury now that this is all over -- they weren't buying any of it. >> no they weren't and you know i think really we can point to one dispositive moment in the trial, i mean, there were many. but i think the real linchpin was the fact that yeah we all know he was a liar he admitted to being a liar lied to his family law partners but remember this lj during the trial the inception of the trial his defense was alleging that he was nowhere near the scene that the timeline was going to favor him because of his visit to his

mother for allegedly 40 minutes not 20 minutes okay that was what they were putting out. then we get the testimony related to the video that was on paul's phone. where people who know him and no uncertain term said that is alex's voice guy was there now the defense had to call audible and put him on the stand where he essentially had to cop to that say that is my voice i was lying to law enforcement why is that matter so much. so it was at the scene that's a lie that developed during the trial. the jury had to be it ising there saying you were saying a at the beginning you change horses midstream as judge himself said, and that borders on insulting i know judge seem to be insulted so if you're sit wring jury is you have to say 50*eu78 i'm not buying anything that the jury is saying. >> your expertise the defense wanted to nail the crime scene introduce two shooters talking about the preservation of the crime scene.

the jury didn't buy that eaters. common sense plays role here if there were two shooters maggie would have never been able to run distance that she did away from that scene. the second shooter would have shots her simultaneously when paul was shot and that's not what happened here. so the jury wasn't buying any of his lies. lawrence: i want to play this side to talk about the mishandling of the evidence. let's play it. >> did that entrance get blocked off? >> no. people just kept piling in. i mean, it just -- i mean, it was a just more and more people kept showing up. >> she said someone 30 to 40 minutes that's what he said. >> y'all can imagine what i experience and not been cleaned up i saw blood, brains, i saw pieces of skull i thought television mine.

something that i needed to do for paul to clean it up. >> i felt like confused at first and then i know what he was wearing the day he left the house. and i -- was basically confused i didn't really know where he was trying to get me to say that that -- if i was to be asked that if that was the shirt he was wearing. mark is he going to use this for his appeal? >> well let me be quite frank about the appeal. he's got little chance on appeal as it stands right now. if, in fact, he finds something or they find something dick or jim find something two lawyers who tried -- about juror misconduct if something that relates to the juror who was kicked off or something that was brought in to

deliberations even though it was one of a fastest deliberations i've ever seen in a case of that length. i mean 40 -- you know they took about three and a half hours but if youen will to jurors they have their vote their second vote after 45 minutes. they need to find something else because otherwise once he took the stand once he admitted to a host of the financial crimes and by the way, normally that would be the appeal which was that the judge committed air by letting in financial crimes. when he had to take the stand. but i don't think he's going get very far because he conceded all of that stuff he needs something outside of the record and as of yets they don't have it. >> going to be a real hail mary toipght get to cases because one thing disturbing as i review more and more of the evidence that's out there. you know it is clear this family was connected to the local community. they have a heavy hand in law enforcement. but it seems like a lot of

things law enforcement broke some of the rules because they were so connected with this family. allowing them in an active crime scene -- what do you think about that putting your law enforcement hat on now? >> well, i mean, you look these are going to be cold cases right and they're going to be quite tough boating distinct criminal case it off the table because accused in that instance is paul and, obviously, he's deceased. the civil case survives buster named in caption of that case as is alex murdaugh himself that case is alive other two are cold cases they're tough. i think according to the reporting and you know we're getting into what's true and what's not smith case might have a little more purchase even though it is an older case because there are some allegations floating around that more than one person was involved. and what that means is you're not reliant upon forensics. the difficulty in the satherfelt case everybody at the scene is also deceased. that is maggie, paul, and so if

you're looking for smob who essentially is going to flip and give you real purchase to go for an indictment you need somebody who is going to step up here and somebody you have some leverage on. so hopefully they develop enough to put heat on somebody and develop something. >> real quick because i have 20 seconds what can they get to zoom that body is there a lot of evidence that's still there that they can use? >> absolutely. when you're talking about blunt force trauma to head and talking ab case with a coroner never called, and autopsy wasn't done properly especially in the satherfield they'll look at everything they rmpled a tractor-trailer could have hit him and is the height correct and possible where injury was that -- tractor trailer side mirror could have even hit him and where are the other injuries and does that line up from him being hit in the concrete. it is going to be very doubtful. >> wow thanks so much for

joining the show tonight panel thanks a lot. now we head to chicago as embattled city that we visit often on cross country. watch. do we need new leadership in chicago? >> i hope you get this get rid of -- what's her name >> >> lightfootd brown. >> it is terrible here. >> so two down one to go after mayor lauri lightfoot didn't make it it has a professional referendum on leaders who failed her city he's the first mayor not to win reelection in the windy city and nearly 40 years. her police superintendent david brown resign shortly after and while many are celebrating, it may be too soon. let's take a looked a two men who can take over.

on one hand you have paul, used to be head of the chicago public schools, he was the top vote earn in tuesday race and he's running on a law and order platform promising to hire hundreds of cop. but on the other hand you've got cook county commissioner brandon johnson he's back by the teachers union and tax the rich even though business is leaving and school is a felon and refer to defunctioned police as his political goal. even though scrim out of control. pundants predict a runoff and someone further to left than lightfoot will take control and republican would have a hard time winning in chicago but gop is constantly condemning the fall of our country once great city. so why did anyone decide to run in the race? my vote for chicago is find a leader who can right ship and

cares about residents in the city and my hope is failure would be first in line of come to come to knows and progressive leaders more concerned with equity than safety who's next? i think la toya new orleans should be afraid under her watch the big easy got a new nickname the murder capitol. so who's -- those who live there are making themselves heard launching recall effort to getter had out. we enlisted hep of new orleans native fox news contributor to find out just how close it is to the chopping block. watch. >> tell me do you support this recall effort? >> absolutely. absolutely. absolutely -- >> absolutely. >> i do. yeah i do. >> absolutely. i do. i definitely do. >> it is just some things that i've seen that just a little distasteful. she needs to go crime is getting outrageous over here nothing being done. our local mayor as of today is

just not doing her job on every front seat. she's getting nothing right. she's terrible and our city is falling apart and we need to somebody to make our city better and she's making it worse. i have four children of my own i feel that our city has become an unsafe place. kids don't go outside to play anymore. >> look around city and they see the trash, homeless encampments everywhere city in the crime it is out of control. >> what has she done well? what has she done for the city? look at it. go drive down the street this is ridiculous we live in a third world country? >> will she survive this recall effort? >> honestly, probably not. definitely should not. i don't believe she should. >> she's got a big head to me that's not appropriate. >> we don't want her. she's not new orleans not in her heart an we do and we live here, and we're done. >> join me now thank ray monday

for doing that for us and fox news sarah carter and patriot host stacey washington. ladies thank you so much for joining me tonight stacey i want to go to you because you're in st. louis. you know all about the crazy d.a.'s you've got kim gardner and mayor bhos support these d.a. so what do you think is the verdict in new orleans are we going finally get more leadership and these liberal cities? >> lawrence thanks for having me on tonight and i actually think you're going to see someone who is to the right of a lori lightfoot but something with a full blown america first candidate in their city so it takes a while for a city to shift over to the left. and it will take considerable amount of time earcht on the part of the gop to shift these cities to the right. but we're seeing the backlash which is actually good to understand that crime is not -- it is not a left right issue

crime is a people issue. when people are afraid they vote differently so this is a good sign. lawrence: so zaire rei we've been friends for a long time. and you hear -- we have these conversations, and we talk about republican outreach i just don't understand how no republican i understand it is a tough race but you've got connect with the voters and not one republican in the race i just don't get that. >> yeah i don't get it either i think this is one of our greatest parelles and i hope it doesn't stay this way. i think what's very important is we have to understand that people across this country no but no one they know when they can believe in someone that's a leader that someone will take control and help them and help their communities. and the republican party as much as it talks really hasn't been there. we saw it more under president trump with leadership growing, and i think we're going to start seeing that more in the coming years we have more hispanic

leaders but i think this is a grassroots effort and i think stacey is right we have to have leaders within these communities that are willing to stand up and say we're not going to take this anymore we see that with mayor cantrell people should not have to walk kids home to be stepping over people on the streets or needles or trash in their communities and i think eventually what happens is there is a backlash. people stand up they vote people out of office. they need lawmakers that will believe in them and not only do i agree with stacey but i agree with you lawrence you and i have talked about this for a long time the republican party will not win unless it moves forward takes charge, and says look we're never going to be leaving your community. we're here for you. we believe in you. we believe in small business, we believe in you and we will stay with you. if we can't do that we will not see the conservative party make headway it needs to make in communities in big cities like chicago, in new orleans which is one of my favorite cities in the

world. >> stay city what do you think needs to happen? >> first off, i think the gop could just campaign year round and i understand -- there's fund raising issue right but when we want something we make it happen if the gop really wants to make in roads in the city it is needs to be a year round campaign and door knocking informational campaign, and it has to be something where leaders are plugged into communities. here in missouri we have seen people run statewide and actually go into the black community in north county here in thriewtion and really make inroads by showing up at churches talking at work places going and being seen in the neighborhood and getting to know business own rs and through that work they have -- it was our last lieutenant governor i think three cycles ago he was continually reelected and had a huge black vote because that's the way he behaved he treated black community like a viable voting bloc and it is transactional as you know you should be getting

something and if it is poor schools, crime, drugs a lot of drug dealing we see a lot of that in poor communities. then you should be looking for someone who will give you something for your volt instead of telling you that you're a victim that racism is the real cause of all of your problems. democrats have rocked this carnage on poor areas now bringing to suburbs and major cities and it's got to stop. >> got to end we deserve better and i think having leaders like you pushing party to do right thing will get that changed thanks so much for joining me stacey will make debut on outnumbers joining me next wednesday. pan out millions of dollars to blm protesters who took the streets in 2020.

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so about are black lives matter protest that pop up across u.s. in 2020 and shut down cities from coast to coast and cause over a billion dollars of property damage. well new york city is now planning to pay millions of dollars in a parole settlement to protesters who contributed to the chaos that broke out just a ksmg years ago we asked everyday new york ergs how they feel

about the massive payday. watch. should city be paying out for bad behavior? not for vandalizing the community. >> commit the trial or pay consequences for it. that's not fair. paid to do that, really we were brought up you go to jail you do stuff like that good-bye that's it. we're going back in time i tell you in medieval times again. somebody is getting paid for -- you know, doing this dishonorable thing. encourage bad behavior? >> of course always people that's going to feel the entitle allowed to do wrong. >> encourage other people to do bad things and so city will -- pay for them. going to cost 6 to 8 million dlafers. that's just money we have in our pocket i guess. i'm original new yorker i tell you this place go to -- going -- [bleep] and it is got to stop.

>> what would you say to people who cause all of this vandalism? >> i don't know got to find out to be a better person. unbelievable joining me to discuss thanks for joining the program. tony so they cool to all of these cities they let the anarchist infiltrate their movement they burn down buildings. they throw stuff at cops. and they get paid. i mean, we must be a great life. it's good work if you can get it now argument they make there are people who did absolutely nothing wrong and they were detained inappropriately i think and david would agree as well if you're detaining somebody who has done nothing wrong there could be a conversation there. but this is about whether or not police enengage in policy the policy with how peddling that was the policy pen police chief said that was the right maneuver actually praised it. how do you then decide that the

police officers are wrong for something they were indeed trained to do is one of the questions i think a lot of new yorkers i mean i should say five borough new yorkers will ask themselves about this payout which also includes two and a half million dollars in legal fee. lawrence: you know what's crazy david, i covered the protest all across the country, new york specifically. i think i was living in new york at the time. the cops here gave them free-range. they stepped back and let them burn the buildings they -- they let them shut down bridges and do everything. so how they could find a lawsuit after that, again, if there was any type of -- illegal action taking place, of course, they should be condemn but a lot of times they were the crowds you didn't know who was throwing the rocks or anything and so they were detain the entire group until they can sort it out what's your take on this? >> well let's take tony's points and then take the what's missing approach. officers have not been charged to the best of my knowledge an i've done digging on this

specifically with crimes related to against these people related to their settlements so that's a problem orders police were given, the policies, people with what is an illegal protest in the form of violence. if you don't exit the area you're part of the problem but again where are charges that lead to a civil settlement? this goes back even further that gets worse. because what you saw starting in 2015 leading to now was left wing judges, prosecutors, you've got de blasio you thought he was bad now comes eric adams he's worse you have a police leadership that get on bended knee to protesters and i know some of those lieutenants and scaup captains are through my friends not just outed but pushed back or getting pushback from the nypd at the line level. they are sick of this. citizens are paying the price, that taxpayers are paying the price all of those people you

showed if they paid taxes, if they own a bodega they're paying for these millions of dollars. >> tony i guess my point is here is -- cops all over especially in new york and recruitment problem. i don't see this helping the recruitment i don't see it. , of course, not because what you're witnessing i think what we're all witnesses it is irrational conversation. if the police do x as they're trained and then you tell me police are guilty for doing x as trained and people get paid which is how people see it why would anybody be a cop which has been a story repeated over and over again based on everything across the country. look at the video we're playing right now. people forget how bad it got look at these cars these are police cars on fire. i remember one car jumping with

a mob and they wanted to go after a cop as time passes by we as citizens forget what took place during summer of love it wasn't so peaceful. gentlemen thank you so much for joining the program. >> thank you, lawrence. woke public defender condemning propose plan to deport for dealing fentanyl the drug that's killing all of our kids, that's next. and it only takes eight minutes to qualify. i went on their website, uploaded everything, and i was blown away by what they could do. getrefunds.com has helped businesses get over a billion dollars and we can help your business too. qualify your business for a big refund in eight minutes. go to getrefunds.com to get started. powered by innovation refunds.

>> so apparently we've hit rock bottom a woke public defender in san francisco is pushing back on new proposal to deport illegal graduates in the city who are contradicted of selling fentanyl now dispite harsh fall from grace peter callaway thinks these dealers should stay put and continue to poison our kids. joining me now former dea special director so you know we have this problem in the country. we know that we have americans that are selling these drugs right but now we have illegals that are taking advantage. they disrespect country by crossing border and then -- they sell drugs that are directly killing the americans. i don't understand how anyone could advocate for them stay in the country.

>> well, lawrence, we have a very serious crisis in the country as you stated. san francisco is like a war zone already. we have dead people all over the place. we have homeless. we have sick people. we have addicted people and crime is through the roof. these people need to go back where they came from and stop destroying our country. the president needs to declare a national security and a public health emergency immediately we have never seen anything like this lawrence. this is a poisoning of america. and china is working directly with the cartels, and these illegals need to be sent back home. >> you know derrick, i don't have to retell the story. you do that all of the time. we talk about these families the heartbreaking stories. but they don't care if you're rich or poor everyone is being impacted by this. what do you think would be the influence, to keep that drug dealer here when they don't

belong in the country? what do you think the motive is here? >> lawrence, you know what i can't answer that question the guy is delusional, obviously, i think he's taken drugs. obviously, something is wrong with his brain. everyone in america should be outrage on what's going on i'll give you an example i testify this week of congress and one of the congressmen had the nerve to talk to me about pablo escobar he died 30 years and this guy is talking to me that's because they don't know what's going on they're not paying attention to what's going on to america. lawrence: now that you bring that up because i saw some of your testimony do you think those guys care about the american people? those guys that are sitting in suits the men and women in suits that are sitting there because i haven't seen any action from congress on this issue. >> lawrence, i tell you what, i was yelling and screaming in there because i'm upset i work with the families i've been talking to about this five years there's an army of families

around america doing all of the work they're producing statistics they're pushing out education material, i asked the president once again, can you get some athletes selects and role models into the white house, and let's start educating kids because george what they're doing. department of education is sleeping. cdc can't even produce accurate stats and the families are suffering. so it's a disgrace and by the way, when i was talking to that congress, many of the democrats left the room. they didn't even want to hear what i had to say what was disgusting. >> yeah and there were parents testifying as well so not just insulting you someone who dedicated their life to this country thanks so much for joining, sir. so up next, a fourth grader taped to his chair. by his teacher -- and then a teacher allowed the classmates to attack him. boy and his mother, they join me next. ke 1. cut! cut!

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lawrence: texas teacher is coming under fire for taping one of her fourth grade students to his chair. in the middle of the class, this happened last week in texas and after taping 10-year-old to his chair this teacher left the classroom, and he was beaten by some of his own peers i spoke him and his mother about distinct and what kind of justice they hope to see. watch. >> you get to learn, play, and get smart every day. ten-year-old johnson has a love for learning but what happens when the classroom a space that's supposed to be safe and sacred for all students becomes breeding ground for violence? last week charlotte johnson received a phone call from a assistant principal informing her that her son taped to his chair during her class. called me 3:15, 3:20 told me that she had some disturbing news to tell me. she had got word that zi teacher

taped him to the desk and that class was left unattended and some of the students assaulted him like hitting a movie head with fist in their hands and teacher informed that he was being disruptive in the hallway. teacher confessed to i tag him that was not a dispute the investigation is to figure out why she did it but she confessed to principal that she taped him to the desk and she also told the principal she thought it was a joke. >> a joke -- that's what she said. >> did she? >> taping him to the desk neither teacher nor school could explain how things escalated to such a breaking point. >> i want to know what he did but i want to know why she do that and why she didn't call me if he was doing something he wasn't supposed to do she said he wasn't being still that was the answer for me. >> my teacher grabbed my arm and

she sat me down and she had a student hold my -- other arm -- and she taped me and when she left classroom all of the classmates started hitting me. forney school concluded investigation in one week and d.a. determine no criminal charges would be pressed against teacher because zi i was able to free himself from the tape. >> did anybody come help you when you were taped down? >> no one did -- how did you eventually get out of the tape? >> i had -- to twist out of it and -- got yourself out. >> the district remained tight lipped since the distinct. but now reveal they have parted ways with accused teacher in a statement forney sets high standards for our educators both in classroom instruction, and in the positive and supportive learning environment for all of our students. the teachers conduct in the

situation did not meet those standards. and the district has taken the necessary steps to address that failure. and reenforce our expectations she's satisfied with how they handled the incident and while ensure nothing other child has to go through what zi did. >> if i did that to my child i would have been in jail and siblings would be many foster care. you know i'm not understanding where you need to investigate it especially if she verbally admitted it. >> what do you to see happen? >> i to see charges brought against her. now -- as far as the children go i did ask why they wasn't suspended at least. you know, the school talking about charges brought against students. ten and older -- me personally, they're children. you know, you're going to ruin

their life. >> compassion for those kids. zi return to school and placed in a different class within building but mom says they plan on switching schools after spring break. >> so cops say they turned it over to the district attorney and district attorney did not bring charges so i reached tout district attorney in the county supposed to get back to me i'm only 45 minutes down street in texas. but we never heard back so hopefully -- she'll come on one day and explain to us joining me now neuropsychologist lauren miller. doc this case was so troubling to me because kids are reacting the way that they see adults react. and -- you know so often we talk about kids being in disarray but right here, we have a teacher and adult and mom said look, you know these kids still need to develop i don't any charge against these kids i hope they learn from the situation. she still compassionate even though her kid was targeteds.

but what about these adults? >> well, ms. johnson clearly recognizes that children are a special class of people that are highly impressionable. and vulnerable and do need the guidance and good role models around them. and for adults to demonstrate such poor judgment in, you know, the decision to restrain to physically restrain this child of all of the options available to her, she could have called an escort to come and escort zi from class to guidance counselor and not to be disruptive and stand-in if she felt she was overwhelming and wasn't able to respond appropriately. physical restraighten should be a means of last resort even if psychiatric hospitals among most severely mentally ill in

psychotic patients it is a rare occurrence because it is something that you try to avoid at all costs. and here you have a teacher -- seemingly making a joke out of a student which gives the other students apparent license to join in as -- as in the case is what happened to zi. this teacher had students assist her in restraining him and then left him defenseless, and unsupervised while he was further assaulted by students. and the psychological effect of having somebody who should be in a trusted position of authority like a teacher put him in such a vulnerable position to be further victimized, it could be long lasting this could affect his ability to trust, his ability to form relationships. and he could even develop symptoms of post-traumatic stress or adjustment difficulties. adults can't take for granted this responsibility. >> you hit it the head and to

label it as a joke -- especially considering zi has already a medical condition with dwarfism, it really tick me off even more so that it is in my backyard doc i hope that you're right. i hope that you're not right in this case of the side effects that may happen after this situation. but you're right from a medical stand point -- he's going to probably going to be struggling for rest of his life thanks for coming on doc. >> thank you, lawrence. up next cross country's video of the week you don't want to miss it. ♪ inner voice (kombucha brewer): if i just stare at these payroll forms...

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lawrence: welcome back to cross country as i present you the video of the week. so a mother lecturing her teen soon for leaving 10% tip at the end of the anniversary celebration darren with his girlfriend and johnny, of course, name is johnny came back from his date raving about food and service and his mother asked him well just watch 237. you need to get my visa card you need to go to the atm an you need to go grab a 20 and drive your [bleep]

back to that restaurant because on 104 dollar check $10 is a tip do you understand me, go now i'm not asking i'm telling. but you don't know how to tip. that's mamma jones own steroid. joe, i mean, we talk about bad ass kids that's a good parent right there. that's a good parent and maybe she was a waitress at one point lawrence as a former waiter at friendlies of all places where -- tips are where you western earn most of your money if my kids left 10% i would drive them back to the restaurant too. that's great service. 18% standard, 15% very average. but a 10% tip means basically you're saying you suck and i hate you. you might as well not leave anything at all lj.

>> there has to be rule educate me on this. is there ever appropriate time to give a 10% tip or always 20% standard even if the service is bad maybe they have a bad day. do you still give them 20%? 20 is easier thing right a $50 tab for example just multiply by 2 and you're home $50 means 10 dollar tip but yeah, restaurants have struggled so badly particularly during koafdz and after somebody closed, so even if everything wasn't perfect in your mind and we're a spoiled society let's face it. leave the 20% make it easy. help these people, even if you think it wasn't very good. as a waiter i'm biased but that's the way it went for me anyway. lawrence: was this a great parenting moment guide your kid and also giving them public embarrassment as well? >> yeah i think you learn by doing and i teach my kids 9 and

7 not waiters yet in high school type of thing but i always teach theme you learn by making mistakes. right, so in this case, yes. i think -- to actually act in this situation and say you know what you're going to go down there and give a better tip thing the end you never want to be the guy who doesn't tip well. just tip well regardless of how the service was. and you won't have that reputation of being -- cheap. you never want to be that person in the end right lawrence? lawrence: that's exactly right so joe as i said before, we highlight these kids going wild all of the time. teenagers -- even young ones in elementary school, and i always talk about it seems that -- they don't have the mom and dad that i grew up with because they would lose it on them. is this the move, the public embarrassment from the parents? >> well, i mean, i think so -- maybe you could talk to them

privately and say don't do that again. but in the end, i guess if you actually have to go through that public embarrassment of going down there and saying okay, i only left you $10 here's 20. maybe you'll always remember that moment we're talking it on national tv. so perhaps that will work in this situation. >> mamma jones didn't have social media back then. but she would go down the street with her belt all the way down. so -- that's how momma did it. thanks joe. >> catch joe -- >> more generous but i hear you man. have a good night. >> big show 5 p.m. time. more cross country after the y break.ea don't go anywhere. i heard about the payroll tax refund that allowed us to keep the people that have been here taking care of us. learn more at getrefunds.com.

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