if i know what is important to the voters, maybe i could assess someone's chances, it may be. if i don't know what people are looking for i would not be very helpful at knowing when they found it. >> and good night from south carolina. life, liberty and live-in is up next. ♪ hello, i am mark levin and this is life liberty and levin. thank you for joining us in this important program. have you noticed, i say the last three, four, five here's the level of incompetence of the ruling class and the amount of cover-up and censorship and lies

that take place, they want more and more power centralized in washington d.c., they want to say over every aspect of your life and then when it comes to them doing their duties, they won't do them. probably the greatest source for this misdirection incompetence is the american media. russia collusion, they handed the pulitzer prize of like lollipops, there was no russia collusion. the media pushing government propaganda about masks and now there are studies saying masks have no consequence or lockdowns and shutdowns that destroyed people's lives, businesses. their home lives and so forth now we know lockdowns didn't do anything. we could go on and on. what about natural immunity? we had experts from stanford and rockefeller college in oxford and yale who said natural immunity is what we need, the elderly and those who have other serious issues medically,

perhaps they should have vaccines but we don't need vaccines for the entire country, didn't matter. what about the origin? of the virus, covid virus? this to me is one of the biggest scandals in american history if not one of the biggest scandals in medical and scientific history. there was an entire cnn, msnbc,e new york times, the washington post, cbs people on fox, russia collusion. just as folks question masks and folks questions lockdowns and we happened to be right. the news operation fox is second to none. those who provide opinions here really are top-of-the-line as far as i'm concerned. let's get into this.

let's talk briefly about the story of the origin of covid. it killed millions of people worldwide at the hands of the communist party in china that still is in government mode, threatening anybody who dares raise the issue and still joe biden is in cover-up mode, they made president whose is bought and paid for in my humble opinion by that government. one of the first real scientific analyses of this was by nicholas wade. i had him here almost two years ago to discuss this. he became many quarters of pariah even though this is a man who's been an investigative science writer for almost half a century and he wrote this 35 page significant essay. where did the virus come from? was it man-made or natural? he said we don't have the heart proof because they won't let us in the lab that would give us a hard proof but he said the overwhelming evidence points to the lab. i want you to listen to this carefully. he said the virus has caused the

pandemic is known officially as sars cov two. it can be called stars as to for short, many people know there are two main theories. one is it jumped naturally wildlife to people in the other is the virus was under study in a lab from which it escaped. it matters a great deal which is the case to prevent the second such occurrence. he goes on, he says early on public and media perceptions were shaped in favor of the natural immersion seminary up by strong statements from scientific groups. remember the two letters? the statements were not at first examined as critically as they should have been. who should have examined them? the media. he writes contrary to the letter writers in the first letter, the idea the virus might have escaped from a lab in accident, not a conspiracy, it surely needed to be explored, not rejected out of hand. a defining mark of good scientists is they go to great

pains to distinguish between what they know and what they don't know. by this criteria, the signatories of the letter, the first letter will behaving as poor scientists. they were touring the book of facts that could not know for sure were true. it later turned out the letter had been organized by peter, peter president of the eagle health alliance of new york. the organization funded coronavirus research at the wuhan institute of virology. if the stars two fighters had indeed escaped from research funded, it would be potentially culpable. this acute conflict of interest was not declared to the atlantic readers, he helped organize the letter, get several dozen people to sign and doesn't reveal that money was watched through his organization to go to the lab for gain of function research. to the contrary, the letter

concluded week declared no competing interests. virologists like jessica have much at stake in the assigning of blame for the pandemic. for 20 years mostly beneath the public's attention from a they've been playing a dangerous game. the laboratories, routinely created virus is more dangerous than those that exist in nature. they argue they could do so safely and getting ahead of nature that could predict and prevent natural spillovers. the crossover viruses from animals to people, the stars s2, coronavirus had escaped from such a laboratory experiment, savage blowback that could be expected in the storm of public indignation would affect virologists everywhere not just china and goes on. the second letter latin american group and the anderson group quote grounded in nothing but to inconclusive speculations convinced the world pressed that sars to could not have escaped from a lab. the technical critique of the anderson letter tarp takes it down in her shorts. science is supposedly

self-correcting community of experts who constantly check each other's work. why didn't other virologists show the groups argument, the second letter was full of observed large holes? perhaps because today's universities speech can be costly. careers can be destroyed for stepping out of line, any neurologist who challenges the communities cleared you risk having his application turned down by the panel of virologists that advises the government grant distribution agency and they are mocked and accumulated by msnbc host, by cnn dose, by the new york times, the washington post. they are mocked and humiliated by cbs and nbc and abc. the media in this country is a disaster, it just gives you the scarlet letter and then they don't want to discuss, you see it throughout, he talked with a hundred biden laptop and on and on with issue after issue after issue because there

ideologically driven like never before. he says natural emergence, that is animal to man was the media's preferred theory until around deborah 2021 and the world health organization mission to china. the commission's competition and access were heavily controlled by the chinese authorities. its members who included ubiquitous mr. daszak concerning before, during and after this was unlikely that this was not quite the propaganda victory the chinese authorities may have been hoping for. what became clear was the chinese have no evidence to offer the commission in support of the natural emergence theory, none. by a strange twist in the story, one of the top chinese virologists what the top virologists at the wuhan lab, her work was funded by the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases.

right, mr. fauci? by you. part of the u.s. national institute of health, nih, grant proposals that funded her work which are a matter of public records specify exactly what she planned to do with the money, the grants were assigned the prime contractor, this guy daszak of the eagle health alliance who subcontracted them to the expert, virologists in china was talking about. you can see these connections and you can see in many ways we were sold out as a people but this means in non-technical terms, she set out to create novel coronavirus is highest possible infectivity for human cells. the methodical approach was designed to find the best combination of coronavirus backbone and spike protein for infecting human cells it cannot be said she did or did not generate the sars to in her lab because her records have been

sealed but it seems she was on the right track to have done so, it's clear the wuhan institute of virology was systematically constructing novel coronavirus is assessing their ability to infect human cells and human aio expressing mice as richard a albert, molecular biologist at rutgers university and leading expert and it's there he said depending on the constant genomic context chosen for analysis the work could have produced sars covid two or proximal progenitor of sars covid to. the lab escaped scenario for the origin of the sars virus, sars2 coronavirus should not be evident is not near handwaving in the direction wuhan institute of virology, it's a detailed proposal based on the specific project funded by the niaid.

he didn't hear that from the media at the time, he did hear it here and on this network. required levels of lab safety, one of the required levels? for this is supposed to be bsl for, the most restrictive and design for deadly pathogens like the ebola virus, like the research of what would become the coronavirus. what happened? it was down at bsl level two, the new lab is a shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate this high contaminant laboratory. the inspectors wrote in a cable to the state department in 2018, the real problem was not the unsafe state of the wuhan bsl for that but the fact virologists worldwide don't like working in bsl for conditions to put suit on and masks on and in the lab they want, it's there

some or all of this was performed using a biosafety standard level two. even more, three people working at bsl three lab at the institute fell sick within a week of each other with severe symptoms required hospitalization. this was the first known cluster we are aware of of victims of what we believed to be covid-19. influenza can't be completely ruled out but seemed unlikely under these circumstances. of course. what about the natural side? it jumped from animals to man. the uniform structure of sars two, coronavirus gnomes gives no hint of any passage through intermediate animal host and no such host identified in nature. proponents of natural emergency including media about fauci and our entire government suggests sars2 committed and yet to be found human population before gaining special properties. or it jumped outside china but

all these conductors are possible but strange. proponents of a lab league have a simpler explanation -- sars two is adapted to human cells from the start because it was grown in humanized mice or lab cultures of human cells just as described in the grant proposal originally. you can see the weight of evidence is overwhelming for a lab leak and this is several years ago. the direct thesis is between them natural emergence and lab escaped scenario, a possibility it cannot be the most but against it are the facts. these hypothesis can't be ruled out, no direct evidence for either so no definitive conclusion can be reached. that said, the available evidence leads more strongly in one direction than the other. readers will form their own opinion but it seems proponents of lab escaped can explain all available facts about sars2, considerably easily and can

those who favor natural emergence. it's documented researchers at the wuhan institute of virology were doing gain of function experiments designed to make the coronavirus infect human cells in humanized mice. this is exactly the kind of experiment from which sars like virus could have emerged, they were not vaccinated against the virus is, they were working in minimal safety conditions at a bsl to lab so escaped of the virus would not be at all surprising in all of china the pandemic broke out on the doorstep of the wuhan institute, the virus was already well adapted to humans, as expected providers grown in humanized mice. it possessed an unusual enhancement, cleavage site which is not possessed by any other known sars related data coronavirus and this site included a double argument condo in also unknown among data coronavirus is.

what more evidence could you want aside from the presently unknown tobin will lab records documenting sars proration? and he goes on, what do the proponents of the national emergence have? natural emergence, nothing. zero. now we have the energy department says well, it probably came from the lab and now we have the fbi director saying it didn't come from the lab and i want to remind you, if this leak hadn't occurred, the leak of the information earlier this week we still wouldn't know about this. this is a massive scandal cover up in the federal government will be half the communist chinese. i'll be right back.

welcome back, america. we have nicholas wade with us, the author of this fantastic essay from may 5, 2021. we now have the energy department, nicholas, saying we kind of think it came out of the lab. we have the fbi that takes a stronger position and the director of the fbi and bret baier show took a stronger

position than his agency, i don't know how one could have read your piece which was extremely thorough, the most thorough piece at the time and it was in plain english even though it got the science of everything you found. not leaned through that conclusion because the conclusion was here's the information from the grant forward and asked for this natural jump, sorry, there's nothing. you want to elaborate on this? >> is surprise me the intelligence agency seemed to be behind. i just don't know how good they are. for example what i would call the semi smoking gun on all this is a grant proposal in the wuhan trip to the defense department called the diffuse project. in that grant they said we are going to take coronavirus is and we are going to insert into them cleavage site and rate specific

position called s1, s2 junction on the study long gino a year later the sars2 virus appears on the scene and it's got the cleavage site at the s1 s2 junction of its genome. are the natures imitating what the wuhan research has put in their, grants to the dd dod before or this is the result of their handiwork? how the intelligence agencies failed to find this document in the defense department? their government. how quickly not have surfaced it and draw their own conclusion? yet we only know about this because of freedom of information inquire from u.s. right to know organization. mark: this is interesting news, the department of defense, did

the department of defense give a grant or just blew off the proposal? >> they declined the grant, it was too much for them but that doesn't mean the work was not to be performed. first the chinese researchers had other sources of funds, this procedure is clearly on their minds and third, it's routine practice if you have the grant, this was $40 million. a lot of preparatory work beforehand to show your proposal is valid so reason to believe they were inserting here in the virus is, mutilating it and it's exactly the roof that could have led to sars kobe to. mark: but earlier, that one reason possibly the defense department and intelligence agencies don't really want to suggest it may have come from the lab? after they funded it but they

were aware of the effort, had to be aware of the effort grant must have been comprehensive, the grant proposal. >> i don't know how the agencies go about things but it seems if you're looking at this from the view of washington's relationships with china and that picture approach, you keep the relationship within manageable terms, keep it to a boiling.and maybe figure out the origin of covid was sort of one thing too many and they would put that on the back burner for the time and it would go to the intelligence agencies, you for set up a little to give it leeway. there is pure speculation on my part but would expect the intelligence agencies would be all over and what you said earlier teams to be cut and dry issue. mark: auto how a person of these intelligence agencies could read your document and not come to

the conclusion of the overwhelming information lead you to the front door of the wuhan lab and almost nothing leads you to this theory between animal and human being. i don't believe anything has changed, i don't believe communist chinese open up their left, they have sealed information and making later in greater threats where it seems to me if they were innocent, they would say take a look at our love and by the way, here's the evidence we have jumping from bath and ultimately human beings. when that be more normal behavior? >> of course, they should have thrown their doors open and say look at what we are doing. this research was funded by the u.s. government, everything was open and we published our research. here's the inventory of the virus is working on. they could have done that and that would dispel suspicion but as you note, they did the opposite. i think it is significant they have a big database of

coronavirus is working on a big research resource and that was taken off-line september 19 of 2019 suggesting something about the data base they wanted to hide at that particular date and this could have been the outbreak of the epidemic. mark: fantastic piece you wrote that drew my attention in may of 2021 when you were last year, my question to you is this how many of the major media platforms after you wrote this piece invited you to come on their programs and discuss it? which ones invite you? i want to know. we'll be right back.

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down california nearly two years after it was formed. the task force voted unanimously to set up an agency to provide services to descendents of black slaves. final report is expected to recommend how the state should apologize and compensate black residents for the harms of slavery and discrimination. i am marianne, back to life, liberty and levin. ♪ mark: welcome back, america. i can't think of anything nicholas wade, that was more destructive in modern times in this pandemic in terms of lives, economies, in terms of resources worldwide. you write this piece, it is thoroughly objective as best i can tell, totally understandable even the average journalist. you yourself have a journalism background, you've written on

this topic of signs for new york times, natures science magazine, written books, expert in the field. yes or no, were you invited to discuss this on cnn? >> i was once, yes. mark: how about msnbc? >> nothing from them. mark: new york times? >> no, not interested. mark: washington post? very simple. >> no. mark: how about dbs, nbc? >> nothing from them that i recall. mark: how about pbs? >> no, i didn't hear from pbs. mark: npr? >> nothing from npr. mark: just curious because my view is here and you mentioned it here and you've mentioned it before, the absolute lack of curiosity by the media being spoonfed this stuff by these two letters, two letters that have

really serious defects to them, these grant proposals you demonstrate that they were for and what they were all about, the conclusion, we don't have enough evidence to say one way or another but there's many more fingers at the lab and no fingers pointing to this jump. still no fingers pointing to the jump. you've been in the media a long time, you strike me as a very honest and earnest man, more on the technical side, not the political side but don't you find it amazing other than guy that nobody was interested in talking to you? i read this and immediately said let's get a hold of this gentleman, i want to talk to h him. >> the problem is for reasons i don't understand, the issues become politicized so if you are

republican, favor lovely and if you are democrat, you favor natural origin. it seems totally crazy to me. i don't understand how it fell out that way, no rhyme or reason. everyone should be interested in the sound of it and it should have nothing to do with politics but the reaction was outlets on the conservative side of politics who approached me and i had a lot of interviews with fox news and affiliates and almost nothing from the democratic meeting side so that's the way it was. i have no good explanation for that. mark: is an echo chamber. once you are on the show, and everybody got to hear it and watches the show but is still is amazing to me. how long did you write at the new york times? >> about 30 years. mark: it amazes me regardless of

politics, republicans democrat conservative liberal and all the rest, you put out a document like this at the bulletin of the atomic scientists, that's not what i normally read but i'm going through preparing for this show and i say what is this? you can't really tell from the title where you wind up you have to read the document. as i read the document, it was fascinating and let's say you don't want to rely on the document, you give 1000 leads for people to follow on grants, the nonprofit organization, the scientists in china on the information related to the science itself when it comes to viruses. i am a reporter, i'm just being honest, let me state out, let me pursue this but it wasn't pursuit, just regurgitated whatever was said. i'm quite concerned about this,

it's one of the great terrific pandemics of any time with millions of people dead, it's worldwide and the absolute in curiosity is mind-boggling to me. >> i think historians will look back on this and say the conclusion is you've just stated from the narrow perspective of science journalists and this is the biggest story of the decade if not half-century get journalists failed to challenge them who put up the papers you mentioned christine anderson article in nature of medicine that shaped the debate for a year by saying this could in possibly have come from a lab. they didn't challenge anderson in any way, they didn't ask other experts what they thought much as to complete zero except for parenting what anderson have said. the media as a whole let us down by not reporting this fairly or

even now in the recent batch of stories you see the doe assessment, the mainstream media is attempting to give the lab the side of the story yet fail to mention for example, it's a touchstone for me, they fail to mention the diffuse grant i described to you, the most important piece of easily accessible evidence of loudly so any article that doesn't mention it is not doing a fair job leveling with the leader yet even now we don't see diffused document mentioned so this is an institutional failure, media has become so polarized he cannot see or think straight. mark: i want to thank you for the essay, really almost two years ago. thank you for coming on the show and coming on the show now. keep up the good work, keep your

eyes open and pencils sharp. thank you, my friend. be well. we'll be right back.yeah ♪

welcome back, america. we have our friend, byron do donald. i had a gentleman on the program was a brilliant man, nicholas wade. he wrote a piece a couple of years back about the wuhan virus and overwhelming evidence he said is a lab leak and is no evidence to support animal to human jump. his head i can't say with one 100% certainty because they've sealed the records over the and we learned today this same group that was funding gain of function, that is the making this virus even more of a killer

received huge grant we know from the science federal lease but they applied at the department of defense, laid out what they wanted to do which was gain of function in the wuhan lab and even though department of defense turned down, this tells me the department of defense new at least that these guys were running around doing this stuff, these intelligence agencies have to know more, don't they went? than the department of energy and they are not letting on. joe biden does his usual, i'm concerned there's another cover-up because they don't want relations with china to get worse so they are appeasing communist china. what you make of it? >> i agree everything you are laying out here. i read the classified report, i'm not going to get into the specifics of the report. the last year i believe it was and when you read through the report even the intelligence community, it was split on covid

origins one of the things is to clear going to the report is there was not enough information available essentially to rule out lab leak which basically in my view, reading it, all pointed to a lab leak theory. everything pointing to this, we know doctor fauci lied to the senate when rand paul russian him about nih funding gain of function research through a third-party ngo or another group going on up there, it's a serious problem because joe biden, his entire first two years as president has been predicated on his disastrous covid response policies but they refused to acknowledge the primary thing that covid was more than likely engineered in a lab and lost containment in wuhan and the rest of the world had to suffer for it. it's a serious problem if they can't get this right, what other issues might be out there in the future less prepared to deal

with? mark: let's talk about communist china, there's this issue seems to be giving cover to the communist chinese in matter of unbelievable paramount importance to this country, death of so many people. economic disclosure occasion on the he killed of the department of justice a program specifically focus on communist chinese spying of the country stealing technology. he killed it because the claim was it racist for crying out loud. he also when it comes to communist china, he took forever to shoot down the surveillance balloon after they gathered the technology is needed until it was off to coast of south carolina and he's not even helping prepare taiwan. taiwan purchased $19 billion worth of equipment and give us the money sitting around waiting bring the equipment the eventual communist chinese invasion of

taiwan. he seems weak when it comes to communist china and he and his family received millions and millions of dollars from that regime. >> you are hitting the nail in the head. one key thing to bring up, and this is where the democrats and joe biden and the white house are concerned about how the investigations, why we keep talking about hundred biden? hunter biden and his brother, jim jim biden president's brother, they facilitated the sale to a chinese company that works directly with the communist party in china. they facilitated that sale of the cobalt mind. it's one of the main elements needed for car batteries, electric vehicles and solar panels. joe biden's energy agenda is predicated on doubling the amount of electric vehicles in the united states but his brother and his son are the ones that facilitated the sale of one of the lines to china so and i feel there are major conflict of interest. you raise the others so how is

this president holding china accountable when his family has had dealings with the ccp in the past when he was in the senate, when he was vice president and what's happening now that he's president of the united states? i'll go on further. we know about the functional crisis in the united states. everybody knows the precursor comes from china why isn't the president taking serious action to stop the flow of fentanyl into the united states? these are major issues especially considering fentanyl is the number one killer of people in our country between the ages of 18 to 45. number one, fentanyl overdoses. the precursor comes from china. why won't this president act? mark: it's unbelievable and billionaires are becoming even wealthier in the democrat party side with the bony climate change. from government subsidies and so forth. the biden's have gotten quite wealthy of the communist chinese as best as we can tell. the only people suffering of the

american people whether it's the wuhan virus, the price of gasoline, home heating oil, electricity, who's benefiting from this? democrat party billionaire activists and the communist chinese. we'll be right back. ♪

welcome back, america. communist chinese also byron donald, they are building up their military and people are starting to say is becoming unparalleled with ours in certain parts of the world is more powerful. under ronald reagan we used to have over 600 ship navy, now under 300 ship navy. the chinese actually have more nuclear launchers now than we do. they obviously had many more men under arms, a massive population and we do. i could go on and on about what's happening, they are catching up and surpassing us in certain areas, do you get the sense that the republicans in the house of representatives recognize this? are they willing to put their money where their mouth is? the budget needs to be cut but this is the number one responsibility the federal government as you know, under the constitution is to protect us, joe biden does not want us increased defense spending where

it keeps up with inflation. this is not about neocons and chicken hawks and warmongers, it's about protecting people of the united states. are you hearing anything among fellow republicans? >> we can talk about defense spending in part because of what's going to come with budget resolution at the end of september and even with that ceiling. the one thing we have to understand is this president's leadership has been week on the national stage, the world stage so china is flexing its muscles. we know what's happening with russia, we've got to keep an eye on iran and the number one way you do that is making sure our fighting forces, men and women are lean, mean, every tool in their arsenal and capability to be able to hold back these adversaries across the globe. i think, are there cuts at dod?

there are because we have a bunch of woke foolishness going on at the department of defense holding down recruitment, the lowest recruitment levels in the history of our military and part of the foolishness they are doing over there spending money on diversity equity inclusion programs and the like. we do have to clean up procurement but at the end of the day the purpose of our military is to be prepared to engage our adversaries at a moments notice and they need the tools and weaponry to do that. republicans are committed to funding that. i want to make sure we get the foolishness out of dod so we are lean and mean fighting force to get the job done if the job is called upon. mark: do you think you would get support from republican senators to defend every single one of these gei officers they've put in place hunter biden executive orders? all of his critical race theory press or oppressed, marxist crab they are imposing throughout the federal government? it seems to me when it comes to

budget, that's the time to defend these things. biden doesn't have the authority, he just doesn't like his mother leaning with a pen with executive orders left and right but it seems to me the power, do you think you will get support from your republican friends in the senate? >> i think we will in part because we have members of the house republicans who are not going to stand around and vote for this, we are not going to let it sit there, we're going to the process right now of identifying all of these programs that exist and not just dod but across the federal government. i was in rsc republik and study committee budget task force meeting and we were going through line by line the agriculture department at the department of justice. identifying these programs that exist which if you are a leftist, that's cool but we don't have money we got to get it out and set it republik and have to help us do that job. mark: fantastic because you didn't authorize them in the first place.

i want to thank you for everything you do, you are real star not just in the republican party with the national scene, keep it up and god bless you.c] >> absolutely, thank you, mark. mark: we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ [music stops abruptly] [sigh] the most advanced vehicles are the ones that prepare you for everything. [upbeat music] ♪ ♪ kia, movement that inspires.

>> joe biden minimizes a ruling class that is the most corrupt ideologically driven and incompetent modern american history perhaps all of american history. pushing ideology which is fake history on two children and pay pushing fake science if you dare to challenge certain issues what science is all about. you are close down fake media donald trump refers to it is so true a propaganda arm of the democratic party they push

the narratives and projections and we the people are the losers even with life-and-death this pandemic was about life-and-death and they are still in censorship mode and not to be trusted they are all of one mind. we will see you next time on life liberty levin. >> breaking tonight marianne williamson is in challenging biden although as the presidential candidate is out larry hogan has announced he is not running trump tops the cpac poll that gets underway this weekend but we start with the story that we broke over two years ago taking a dramatic turn in the last few days the