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jean it's march madness. what team do you think is goinging to win? >> i think kentucky will. people say to me oh, you know, they didn't do well. but they are doing well now. >> you like the quality of their game. >> they are great as you are. >> congratulations, go buy her book, have a good day, everyone. >> so long from new york. >> bill: thanks, guys, good morning everyone. kidnapped is broad daylight. f.b.i. investigating the abduction of four americans in mexico in what appears to be a case of cartel-fueled violence as we say hello on a tuesday. good morning from new york. i'm bill hemmer. >> dana: i'm dana perino. it was captured on video and is disturbing. it happened across the border from brownsville, texas. a group of heavily armed men opened fire on a van americans
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were traveling in. >> bill: they pulled the u.s. citizens from the wreckage of the vehicle and toss them to a truck bed and haven't been seen since. >> dana: they were driving a white minivan with north carolina plates. you can see it is riddled with bullet holes. >> the group is said to be in mexico. one could have cosmetic surgery. they believe cartel members have mistaken them for drug smugglers. >> dana: the white house is working with mexico to bring them home. according to bill barr, it's the cartels that call the shots. >> mexican government is being held hostage by tens of thousands of parra military members of terrorist organizations that control mexico. it is close to a failed narco state at this stage. they are sitting next door producing mountains of poisonous drugs and killing over 100,000 americans a year. we are sustaining the same
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damage as we would in a major war from these groups operating right beyond our reach. >> bill: william la jeunesse from los angeles has the latest what we're trying to figure out today. hello. >> good morning, bill. generally cartels avoid killing americans because it is bad for business. most cartel violence is directed at each other or police. it appears the four americans were shot by mistake that the gunmen mistook them for associates working with a rival gang rather than being targeted for kidnapping because they were americans. so according to family members in south carolina, the mother of six returned to mexico for a second medical procedure accompanied by three friends. she went there for a tummy tuck that costs thousands less in mexico than the u.s. shortly after crossing the border their white van came under fire. video shows the four men with assault rifles and body arm or loading the four americans into
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a white pickup in broad daylight as traffic goes around them. the woman is a live and sitting up. the other three appear dead for wounded as they are dragged across the pavement and tossed into the pickup. one mexican bystander was confirmed dead. >> these sorts of attacks are unacceptable. our thoughts are with the families of these individuals and we stand ready to provide all appropriate consular assistance. >> president biden was briefed on the incident and the u.s. ambassador met with mexican president obrador. the mexican state where the city is 1 of 6 on the state department's do not travel list. >> we're standing ready to provide all appropriate consular assistance and remind americans of travel guidance with this particular part of mexico. it remains at level four. do not travel. we encourage americans to heed
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that advice. >> so matamoros has rival factions of the once powerful gulf cartel battling with the new emerging jalisco cartel. the shooting got so bad schools were closed and consulate staff were told not to leave. in brownsville they say matamoros is too dangerous to travel. >> i hope they find them and really take it seriously. on their end. >> so the f.b.i. offered a $50,000 reward for the hostages return and the arrest of the kidnappers, bill. with spring break coming up and mexico being the number one destination for americans, this incident might give some people a second thought. >> bill: the video is brutal. well oh he wait for updates from northern mexico. >> dana: last night senator lindsey graham was on jess watters show prime time and he wants to take legislative
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action. watch here. >> mexico on notice. if you continue to give safe haven to fentanyl drug dealers you are an enemy of the united states. i will introduce legislation to make certain mexican drug cartels, foreign terrorist organizations under u.s. law and set the stage to use military force if necessary to protect america from being poisoned by things coming out of mexico. >> dana: attorney general bill barr suggested the same. he is not a member of congress. now you have senator graham saying he will do that and that might lead to a bill pushing through which even if it doesn't get passed will definitely catch the attention of the white house. >> bill: could be a big campaign issue going into 2024. we'll see which candidates jump on that. >> dana: closer to home in atlanta watch this. >> cop city site. vehicles are up in flames.
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>> dana: incredible video. play-by-play of sunday's attack on atlanta yeah's cop city by one of the rioters involved. 23 suspects are set to make their first court appearances and just two are even from georgia. most of the suspects are from out of state and even canada and france. they all face various domestic terrorism charges accused of throwing bricks, molotov cocktails and fireworks at police officers at a construction site at a police training facility. live fox team coverage. ted williams standing by. first to charles in atlanta. >> we expect two dozen of those protestors rah were arrested and charged with domestic terrorism for their alleged role in their attack on police will make first appearances in court today. on monday the police department released all their identities.
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nearly every one is from out of state including two from canada and france. 1 of 2 georgia residents was a lawyer for the southern poverty law center. it confirmed his association and he was at the site of the cop city attack as a legal observer on behalf of the national lawyers guild. on video you can see two people in green hats that are similar to what the national lawyers guild is known to have legal observers wear. in a statement the southern poverty law center said the employee is an experienced legal observer and their arrest is not evidence of any crime but of heavy handed law enforcement intervention against protestors. this is part of a month's longest calation of policing tactics against protestors and observers who oppose the destruction of the forest to build a new police training
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facility. you can see a large group of protestors enter the site of atlanta's $90 million public safety facility. moments they set fire to a vehicle or construction equipment. several run toward a gate and begin throwing rocks and fireworks narrowly missing officers as they struggle to secure a chain link fence. the group came from a music festival and coordinated the attack. >> in is a national network and an international group of people that are organized to come to our state to undermine a public safety training center. >> meantime anti-cop city activists are calling for charges to be dropped against those who were arrested saying police detained and arrested people who had no connection to the violence. >> by the end of the day there will be 40 people that have domestic terrorism charges. many of which just for being in
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a parking lot. >> we expect the suspects in court this afternoon around 1:00. hopefully we'll learn more about the charges they are facing. >> bill: want to bring in former homicide detective ted williams. that's a first time we had a chance to see the aerial video. there was a lot of them. >> i can tell you, this is a very shocking demonstration there. but you know, bill, in america and dana in america we are allowed to peacefully demonstrate. this was not a peaceful demonstration. this was a coordinated attack. this was an insurrection and i'm hoping that the courts will deal harshly with these domestic terrorists because that is what they are and that's what some of them are charged with. i think these charges are appropriate under the
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circumstances. >> dana: they are going to start showing up in court in a few hours from now and i think as you said it is highly coordinated and how do you think the police are dealing with that in terms of knowing that they are under attack from this group and that they are not even from georgia? they entered the police force to protect their communities and the community is paying for the cop training center. and now you have people all of these were arrested only two are actually from georgia. they aren't even a tax-paying citizen of that state and what does it do for morale for the police officers? >> i think, dana, it is clearly demoralizing for police officers in atlanta and around this country to see what is going on when it comes to law enforcement and how law enforcement officers are treated. think about it. this was a training center that was being built.
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you are training police officers. we are crying that police officers in this country need more training. this would have provided it. you had individuals who came from around the country and that's very significant and important here because these individuals came purposely to reap havoc in atlanta. and atlanta needs to be able to deal with them and i can tell you, we need to be on lookout all over the country for this kind of activity unfortunately in the future. >> bill: we were told yesterday the a.g. told us they arrested 35. i don't know why the number went to 23. from the video there was more than two dozen present there. ted, quickly, in washington, d.c. they haven't reformed the crime bill in about 100 years. the d.c. city council is trying to do it. for a lot of people in washington it's too far to the left. it would lower penalties for burglary and robberies and carjackings. it would reduce the maximum penalty for certain crimes. it would expand jury trials for
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lower-level charges like a misdemeanor. i don't know how you work that through the system. it will fail and this week republicans and democrats will vote together to put this down and the president won't veto it. what is your take on it as a citizen of washington, d.c.? >> you know, i'm saddened to see that the city council in the district of columbia are supporting crooks over law-abiding citizens. this bill should never have been put into place in the first place. the mayor vetoed it. the city counsel overrode the veto. it went to the congress and the congress, 31 democrats with republicans voted to shoot this down. and now it is in the senate and guess what? the city council is talking about trying to withdraw it and the senate is saying it is too late. at some stage or another i do
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believe after 100 years you do need revisions in the crime bill but you do not under any circumstances need to reduce crime when crime is going up in the district of columbia. >> bill: a lot of things changed with lori lightfoot lost her re-election a week ago. thank you, nice to see you. >> dana: thank you, ted. revelations of an apparent lab leak cover-up and calling for dr. fauci to testify on capitol hill. >> bill: wild video. an suv driving full throttle toward a coffee shop in texas. >> dana: the smoking gun in the murdaugh verdict. one juror told fox news what sealed the deal. >> it is not me going to jail so you don't want to be -- you can't be wrong. you have to be so sure in your decision because this man is about to serve the rest of his
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>> dana: buster murdaugh filed a police report. the only surviving son of alex murdaugh claims he is being harassed by the media and photographed inside his south carolina home days after his father was convicted of killing his wife, maggie and other son, paul. meantime we're also hearing from a juror in the trial on how they all reached a verdict. he talked to ainsley. >> i tried to create to story lines for myself. one where alex is innocent and what he is saying is all true. in one case you can't trust him. whenever we got to the closing arguments the story line of him being there, doing it, that's the one that made the most sense. the other one was full of doubt, full of holes.
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full of confusion. >> dana: murdaugh's head shaven is in the processing center before he starts serving his life sentence. two life sentences in a maximum security prison. >> bill: very thoughtful juror there. >> dana: great questions by ainsley and he was comfortable talking to her. it is interesting to hear from jurors who -- the butcher, baker, the candlestick maker. you don't know who you will be seated with. they sat for six weeks together and he came through and on the other side of it speaks so eloquently how seriously they took it. >> he is age 22 and a big life experience already. first this. first came china's spy craft and now attention is turning to chinese-made cranes operating at american ports. defense officials claim that these could be a trojan horse
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for espionage. we're with kelly o'grady near the port of los angeles. what's up with this? >> that's right, bill. there is a possible new chinese threat. you can see some of these cranes behind me. they are used to transport the containers from the ship to the shore and the concern is that certain ones made by the chinese manufacturer zpmc are spying on us. a number of national security and pentagon officials they contain sophisticated sensors to register and track containers and china could capture information of materials shipped in and out of the country. these cranes are in ports everywhere. it controls around 70% of the global ship to shore market and sells equipment in more than 100 countries. normally they come fully assembled and controlled remotely through chinese software.
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a design that could make it possible for beijing to siphon intelligence. they said the claim is paranoia and meant to mislead the american public. the white house is punting the issue to the defense department. some members are talking about banning the purchase of chinese cranes. >> what and where it is being shipped around the world and some of that spy ware could get into the port systems and chinese could use it in a malicious way. we need a different source. >> now it's worth noting the 850 billion defense policy bill passed in december does require a group -- number of groups to investigate and study these cranes to determine whether they are a security threat. bill, no word on those findings yet. certainly an intensified scrutiny on something that looks ordinary, right? >> bill: it is intriguing. kelly is live in l.a. at the
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port there. thanks. >> there was a study recently that we could make available to you where a group of highly qualified evolutionary virologists looked at the sequences there and now it is totally consistent with a jump of a species from an all man to a human. >> dana: fauci suggested covid came from nature and now new calls for him to testify tomorrow at a house hearing after the energy department joined the f.b.i. in concluding the pandemic likely originated from a lab leak in wuhan, china and emails suggest fauci wanted to disprove the lab leak theory. let's talk to republican congressman brad wenstrup of ohio. congressman, what was your reaction when you first saw these emails that showed apparently dr. fauci commissioned and asked for the
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study about whether covid started in wuhan by nature or in the lab? >> if you look at that that's fine that you want to look at whether it came from the labor nature. what we find in the emails is that the quote focus is to disprove the lab theory. so why would you do that? what is the motive behind that? you played the clip there from dr. fauci saying it came from nature. definitively it must be from nature. right after that he gets a thank you from the eco health alliance who does coronavirus research saying thank you for saying that. why was there effort to disprove the lab theory and go with nature? it's three years down the road and still haven't found an intermediary holding covid-19. the plausible explanation seems to be from the lab and more and more people are seeing that. i sat on intelligence committee
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and gathering a lot of evidence over the last few years that does have the bread crumbs leading toward the lab. that's my opinion at this time. we want to get to the facts and prove this not only for the american people, but for the world so that in the future, we can predict a pandemic and prepare for one and protect ourselves from it and at the end of the day if we can prevent one, then better yet. we have a lot of work to do and if there were things being done for motives such as personal motives or political motives as opposed to actual science, we have a problem with our system that we need to correct. >> dana: will dr. fauci testify tomorrow at your hearing? >> he will not be there tomorrow. we are a ways from getting to him. i have some concerns along the way and i want to hear from others and those that worked with dr. fauci. i recently looked at his deposition with louisiana/missouri and he said 174 times that he doesn't recall or doesn't remember.
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so i think we need to get to those people that do remember. >> dana: got it. we're about a little over a month since that train derailment in east palestine and secretary buttigieg made some comments. want your thoughts on that. listen here. >> even one derailment is zoom. it's really the entire industry that has been pushing hard to water down for delay safety regulations. our economy depends on a strong freight rail network operating 24/7. we shouldn't have to shut down the rail system of this country in order to make sure that it is safe. >> dana: what do you make of that and what do you hear from the residents in east palestine and how are they doing? >> well, they're doing as best they can. they have a lot of concerns about their health as you might imagine and their economic situation going forward. if there is something, a safety problem, you should look into it. from what i understand 99.9% of
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hazardous material through rail reaches their destination safely but one is too many. so you need to look at it. but i would not say you shouldn't shut things down until you actually do know. so let's look at the facts and make sure we're doing things right. what was the cause of this particular incident and how do we correct that from happening again? >> dana: thank you. we'll look forward to your hearing tomorrow on the origins of covid. thanks. >> bill: interesting to watch that. meanwhile pandemic is over, right? one of the world's greatest players in tennis novak djokovic forced to drop out of an american tournament again over his vaccination status. he is picking up some allies. check this out. >> looks like, smells like and feels like. it is as if texas and the country is at war with the cartels. >> fox news obtaining this new video from the front lines of the border battle. illegal immigrants bailing out of a smuggler's car and taking
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>> you know what their average tax rate is? 3%. poor people. [laughter] that's why i'm proposing a billionaire tax because no billionaire should be paying a lower tax rate than a firefighter. there are still hundreds of millions of dollars. not like it will be a great sacrifice. >> bill: we can do a fact check on that. president biden calling for new taxes on the wealthy. to be expected and what he has been doing for years the centerpiece of his sweeping election year budget proposal set to be unveiled thursday in philadelphia. says tax hikes are needed for the national debt.
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russ vogt is with us now. nice to see you. i didn't know we were still funding statues of bob dylan in mozambique. >> when you go line item by line item. you see woke and weaponized examples. it is not just wasteful spending. now you see examples of culturally responsive learning at the department of education. it is not just wasteful teacher programming it is teaching how to be cultural marxist activists. when we say we have to get out of the business of woke and weaponized government spending we aren't funding education at the department of education anymore. it whats to stop and needs to be the priority of this congress. >> dana: budgets are a statement of policies and priorities going into a presidential election. biden will want to do this. have you listen to call for one and what he said in the "new york times" today and how they plan to attack republicans. >> president biden: republicans in congress want to put
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medicare's very existence up for a vote every five years. same with social security and medicaid. some republicans want medicare and social security to sunset. the maga republicans in congress are wanting -- they still want to cut medicaid. >> dana: today's "new york times" the president writes my plan to extend medicare for another generation says if the maga republicans get their way seniors will pay higher out-of-pocket costs on prescriptions drugs and insulin. deficit higher and the only winner is big pharma. how will republicans react? >> it is totally not true. they are not making social security and medicare a fight on the debt limit. the budget they are looking at uses medicaid and other easier to go entitlements mandatory programs and discretionary spending to get to balance. we knowed to reform the programs over time. if you care about these programs and budget cutter the most important thing is to make
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progress on what you can cut in the appropriations process. the bureaucracy aimed against your people and go after the social safety net that has become a benefit hammock. he is making proposals up that do not exist and he had to shift the medicaid that we have sizable medicaid reports in the budget. >> some people believe it and you have to repeat it over and over until you get your message through. you said the republicans have a real opportunity to do what would you recommend? >> to use the leverage of the debt limit with an opportunity -- joe biden has to get a debt limit passed. his secretary of treasury says you will cut a deal. what they have put forward and what kevin mccarthy go back to pre--covid levels on bureaucracy. big cuts is what they should fight for. we can put us on a road to $3 trillion in savings which would be a third of what's necessary to balance the budget.
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that's what i believe the central fight should be. if he does that he has a chance to be a historic speaker. >> dana: i'm glad you brought that up. joe biden said the pandemic ends on may 11. why can't we go back? >> why can't we go back to pre-covid levels. >> you can tax a billionaires all you want but won't make a debt in the amount of spending washington is doing today. nice to see you in person. russ vogt. thank you. >> president biden: the pandemic is over. we still have a problem with covid and still doing a lot of work on it but the pandemic is over. >> dana: the pandemic is over president biden's own words 18 months ago. why is one of the world's top athletes tenis star novak djokovic still denied entry to the u.s. because he is unvaccinated? congressional correspondent
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aishah hosni has more. >> senate and house republicans are wondering how the president can continue to say that the pandemic is over and yet block the number one ranked tennis champion in the world from playing in the u.s. that's exactly what's happening. so despite high hopes from even the u.s. open djokovic withdrew from the bnp open after the biden administration denied his visa over the pandemic rule. several lawmakers are calling for biden to grant the tennis superstar an exception to a ban that will expire soon anyway considering the state of emergency will be lifted in may. in a letter to president biden last week scott and rubio says it seems illogical and misaligned with the opinions of your own administration to not grant him the waiver he requests. others with speaking out. senator marsha blackburn sweeting didn't president biden say the pandemic is over?
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yet thousands of unvaccinated illegal immigrants are allowed to come across the southern border. florida governor ron desantis who fought early pandemic restrictions is taking aim. >> we have a big problem with the federal establishment in washington. it still clings to pandemic restrictions. they won't like novak djokovic come to the united states even though he has had covid because of the shot mandate. >> so we'll see if this pressure campaign works, dana. i will volley it back to you. >> dana: return i think is what you say. thank you. >> bill: makes no sense, right? >> dana: infuriating. >> bill: an organized attack on a future police training site in atlanta. how were the networks covering this story? in many cases they aren't. we went looking for that. plus there is this. >> we do more before 9:00 a.m.
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>> this is the defend the atlanta forest movements with events scheduled all week. environmentalists saving a wooded area. >> they're concerned about the environmental impact. >> some protestors accusing police of violating civil rights. >> the first time i'm hearing about this protest over the weekend so just would have to come back to you on that. >> dana: okay. the media and white house down playing the violent attack on the site of a future atlanta police training center. major networks spending mere seconds covering the riots. domestic terrorists referred to as environmentalists in reports. let's bring in rob smith.
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we saw the video. charles watson had this amazing video and it was an overhead view and all of these protestors had been at a music venue and all walk in together, super organized. none of those reports say the bricks were being hurled at police officers. they were the ones being targeted. >> of course. i think when you look at all of these leftist sympathizers in the media look at the pipeline. you have to understand in these news rooms and in the classrooms that lead to the news rooms from top to bottom you have at best sort of mainstream liberals and at worst the far left antifa sympathizers. i say this as somebody who worked in news rooms and i've seen the pipeline. you see the leftist ideology that comes out in the classrooms and goes to the newsroom. that's why they're filled with these people not only sympathizing with this stuff but actively covering for it. you saw this antifa guy from the
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southern poverty law center that got arrested a couple of days ago. we have people infiltrated not only the news media but far left organizations and covering for this stuff. >> mostly environmentalists trying to save the trees, right? >> dana: it is not even their own stated mission. >> mostly peaceful protests as the building is burning in the background. >> bill: a refoefrmd antifa member talking with jesse last night. >> in portland for weeks antifa and other groups were torching courthouses and the mainstream media and left wing politicians were silent. it doesn't fit the narrative that the only violent people are on the right. there is much more violence coming from the left. >> bill: the truth is it's been going on for years. >> the summer of love in 2020 was a lot of antifa and far left stuff. we were told mostly peaceful protests when they weren't ignoring it. we see the violence happening across the country and they want
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to seem as if it is some sort of boogeyman that conservative media and commentators are making up. we know this is not true. >> dana: you have been in georgia and there is a lot of trees. it is not about trees. media look at that. the army will bring back something that i don't know if you were old enough to remember. we remember it. this is an old ad that they used for recruitment. recruitment has been tough lately. >> we bring out the best in the people who serve. >> because america calls for nothing less. >> so you can be all you can be. >> be all you can be. >> be all you can be. >> dana: that was the slogan back in the day. >> maybe i was in diapers at the time. >> dana: they have a hard time with recruitment. you think it will help? >> i think it will. what's going on is this. i started an organization called stop woke. we're trying to combat wokeness in the united states. i'm a military veteran myself. what's going on with a lot of ad campaigns and p.r. going out if
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you remember that commercial that came out a couple of years ago, cartoon commercial. the girl had the lesbians moms and had something to do with military? they need people who want to serve and who love america and want to be challenged. i think what the wokeism and all that other stuff it is not only repelling the type of people the military needs but kind of attracting the kind of people you really don't want in service positions in the military and they can't get those. >> bill: you could youtube that thing to check it out. has a good catchy jingle. nice to see you here in new york. >> bill: welcome back any time unless you want to stay in free florida, right? >> i spend most of my time in free florida but good to come back and see you guys. >> bill: president biden will unveil his budget. whether he runs for a second term looms larger. will investigations of his son
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hunter be a factor? >> the wave of investigations does it factor into the thinking heading into 2024? >> no. >> bill: that and terrifying moments at 30,000 feet. a passenger trying to open a plane door and attacks a flight attendant. can't do that. how this ended coming up. >> dana: wow. ort immune function. supply fuel for immune cells and sustain tissue health. ensure with twenty-five vitamins and minerals, and ensure complete with thirty grams of protein. ♪ ♪ ♪ get directv with a two year price guarantee.
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so it's decided, we'll park even deeper into parking spaces so people think they're open. surprise. [ laughs ] [ horn honks, muffled talking ] -can't hear you, jerry. -sorry. uh, yeah, can we get a system where when someone's bike is in the shop, then we could borrow someone else's? -no! -no! or you can get a quote with america's number-one motorcycle insurer and maybe save some money while you're at it. all in favor of that. [ horn honking ] there's a lot of buttons and knobs in here. >> dana: a podcast catching fire for all the wrong reasons.
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>> it got so quiet in here. >> dana: that's crazy video showing an s.u.v. crashing into a coffee shop window in houston all caught on camera. they were recording a podcast. it was a close call as you can see. they are now laughing about it. >> i think we're fine. i think we got all the audio on there. >> we're chill. everyone is good. >> holy [bleep], oh my god. >> dana: the guy opening the car door. what just happened? good thing i do my podcast on the 15th floor. >> bill: yes. good p.r. >> dana: for the podcast. >> bill: listen to the podcast. >> dana: and the coffee shop. >> bill: the creation of a controversial police oversight board on the ballot today in burlington, vermont.
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madison, what is this? >> if the ballot passes and becomes the law of command a community control board overseeing the local police in burrlington with investigating and disciplinary attorney over all the police even up to the chief. there was a veto of a proposal in 2020 after residents felt the local police had gone too far in handling people protesting the death of george floyd. the mayor said maintaining the city's police force will be hurt by this proposed board saying i was very concerned about this proposal in 2020 because i believed we were just starting to see a real exodus of police officers and i believe the passage of this community control board would deeply exacerbate those issues. advocates, however, including the founders of ben and jerry's ice cream say the bill will restore faith in the police and make burlington a safer place. >> if our community doesn't trust the police department they
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can't do their job. and if we have this transparency and accountability through civilian oversight model then we'll see better outcomes through the police department. >> if you look at burlington today, crime has been on the rise from pre-pandemic in 2022 simple assaults up nearly 15%. aggravated assault up 26%. burglary up 74% and overdose is up a devastating 432%. this all comes at a time when major democratic cities are having a moment of reckoning following the loss of chicago mayor lori lightfoot eric adams says it's a warning for the country. americans are worried about safety. again, the vote is today and if it passes, it also has to be approved by the legislature and governor. bill and dana. >> bill: you feel the winds
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blowing but not sure if it will blow all the way. we'll see in time. madison, thank you from new york. >> dana: fox news alert now as president biden prepares to visit the key 2024 battleground of pennsylvania this week to unveil his budget. first lady jill biden says she absolutely believes her husband will run for re-election. welcome to a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom," asme owe dana perino. good morning. >> bill: good morning. i'm bill hemmer. good morning. joe biden saying a final decision hasn't been made but she is all in for another white house run. >> dana: the comments come as the biden family faces a wave of investigations but the first lady says those probes will not factor into a decision on another run for the white house. >> how does your family deal with that intense focus on hunter? >> we deal with it by i guess have a different perspective. i love hunter and i'll support him in any way i can and that's how i look at things. >> has the wave of
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