now, i feel like a flasher if that's all i'm wearing. that would be offensive. ha-ha. others might like it harvey from virginia, maa could use his powers to fix the headliner of his car. ha-ha. that's all for tonight. dvr the show. tucker's up next. always remember, i'm watters and this is my world. ♪ ♪ >> tucker: good evening. welcome to tucker carlson tonight. last night, we aired video from surveillance cameras on capitol hill. that video was recorded 26 months to the day before, january 6th, 2021. and for 26 months, that footage was held from the american public. the january 6th committee made certain. now, the justice department also

kept a lid on that video footage and in some cases, doj didn't share it with criminal defendants who'd been charged on january snickets violation of their constitutional rights. so we felt it was a public service to bring what we could to you. there was no justification for keeping the secret any longer and a powerful argument to be made that sunlight is always and everywhere the best disinfectant. and in fact, because it was video evidence, it is, to some extent, self-explanatory. anyone could look at the tape and decide what he or she thinks of it. so the tape we showed last night indicated very clearly that capitol hill police in some cases escorted protesters through the capitol as if they were giving a tour. they did that with jacob chansley, the so-called qanon shaman. at one point, they tried to open locked doors on chansley's behalf. chansley was sentenced to four years in prison for his crimes in the capitol on january 6th. the video we showed you last night raises the obvious

question why? on what grounds? the video we showed you last night also showed that officer brian sicknick wasn't beaten to death with a fire extinguisher by protesters on january 6th as the media and liz chaney so often claimed. the video showed sicknick walking around the building apparently in good health after he was supposedly killed. we showed you that video. you can make of it what you will. we also showed you video that proves ray apps, mysterious protester who encouraged others to breach the capitol, lied to the january 6th committee about where he was on that day. but for some reason, the committee protected him any way. he was not considered an insurrectionist, he was their ally. so once again, you can draw whatever conclusions you like from that video. we have ours, and we shared them with you, but it's really beyond debate that it is good for this country for americans to be able to see it. the media and politicians -- the people in charge -- have talked about january 6th every day since it happened for 26 months. and so at some point, the

evidence should be presented to the public. in free countries, governments do not lie about protests as a pretext to gain more power for themselves. they don't collectively edit videos for propaganda services and lie about them in fake hearings and show trials but that's exactly what happened. and every member of congress should ask why that happened. but democrats in the senate -- the democratic leader in the senate, chuck schumer, is not asking why. instead, chuck schumer went on the senate floor today to explode and to say that showing that video, evidence of wrongdoing by the federal government including the security forces, the police department, the nanci pelosi personally controlled, letting the public see any of that is a threat to democracy. watch. >> last night, millions of americans tuned into one of the most shameful hours we have ever seen on cable television. fox news host tucker carlson ran

a lengthy segment last night arguing the january 6th capitol attack was not a violent insurrection. i don't think i've ever seen a prime time cable news anchor manipulate his viewers the way carlton did last night. i don't think i've ever seen an anchor treat the american people and american democracy with such disdain. >> tucker: there's nothing that shameful that ever happened on american television in the history of the medium and so on the basis of that, the self-evident outrage of showing the public video it paid for and has a right to see, chuck schumer called for the censorship of that video. any information -- and he didn't dispute it was accurate -- the damages the story line his party constructed and used mobisylched. schumer is explicit on that point. because that video contradicted lies told by the democratic

party, liz chaney and adam kissinger, chuck schumer demanded our bosses pull this show off the hair. >> he's going to come back tonight with another segment. fox news should tell him not to. fox news, rupert murdoch, tell carlson not to run a second segment of lies. i urge fox news to order carlson to cease propagating the big lie on his network and to level with their viewers about the truth, the truth behind the efforts to mislead the public. conduct like theirs is just asking for another january 6th to happen. >> tucker: it's a threat to democracy! pull him off the air! couple of obvious observations. you don't often see the senate majority leader openly call for censorship on the floor of the senate as if that was totally normal and didn't contradict the

spirit and the letter of the first amendment, but, of course, it does. but what's really happening here? what you're seeing is hysteria, the overstatement, the crazed hyperbole, the red-in-the-face anger. what is that? it's not outrage. of course, it's fear and panic. those videos which we did not retouch -- which we brought to you after running everyone by the capitol police in make certain we didn't imperil anybody -- and we told that you last night -- those videos touch a nerve because they're a threat totalize chuck schumer has been telling for the last 26 months, and not just chuck schumer. we should also tell that you chuck schumer, senate majority leader, was joined in this outrage by the senate minority leader and that would be a republican, mitch mcconnell. and they were joined by a cascade of other republicans, tom tillis from north carolina. mitt romney from utah all sharing the same outrage. and from this, we learn two

things: one, you're getting close to what they really care about. and you have to ask yourself why? why is it so important that they would degrade themselves by telling such obvious lies and calling for censorship? why? what are they trying to protect? that might be worth exploring and we plan to. and the second thing we learned from this is that they're on the same side. the senate majority leader joins the senate minority leader. tom tillis, mitt romney. they're all on the same side! so it's actually not about left and right. it's not about republican and democrat. here you have people with shared interests. the open borders people. the people -- ha-ha -- the people like mitch mcconnell who are living in splendor on chinese money. the people that underneath it all have everything in common are all aligned against everyone else and that would include almost all news organizations in this country as well. so if you're watching this, it might be kind of interesting to

keep a list because one thing we learned today is that they're all in agreement with each other. they kind of outed themselves. they sort of showed their membership cards and whatever club this is to the public. so keep a list. if you want to know who is actually lying despite the illusion of partisanship, we found out today. we have a little more tape for you tonight. so if you take three steps back, you may notice the one person really who was never blamed for anything that happened on january 6th was the very same person who was in charge of the police force, the capitol hill police, that was charged with securing safety on january 6th and that person was nanci pelosi. so if there was a security failure on january 6th -- and demonstrably there was -- that was probably nancy pelosi's fault. after looking at thousands of hours of footage, we came to the conclusion that many others have reached is that the capitol

police weren't prepared for what happened. that's fascinating when you think about it, because there was ample warning. the federal intel and law enforcement agencies knew quite well there could be a massive disturbance at the capitol but the front-line officers on duty that day didn't know and yet the people who kept that information from the front-line officers who were overwhelmed by thousands of people milling around the capitol building, the people who fell down on the job, who didn't do their job... they were not punished. they were rewarded and you have to ask yourself why is that? here we go. many in federal law enforcement knew perfectly well there was going to be a huge demonstration in washington on the afternoon of january 6th, 2021, and that it could become potentially violent. there was no debate about that fact. the fbi knew, but it's also clear that many on the u.s. capitol police force, front-line officers who protect the congress, didn't know. they had no idea what was co coming, and because they didn't know, they were completely

unprepared for what happened that day. that is a very strange failure of communication, and it has never been explained. to understand more about the response to january 6th inside the capitol, we sat down with a man called tarek johnson who served as a capitol hill police officer for 22 years. on the day of the protests, he says he was responsible for securing the certification of the presidential election. if there is anyone at the very heart of the january 6th story, it's former capitol police lieutenant tarek johnson and yet for some reason, the january 6th committee never called him to testify. >> my voice was one of the first ones you hear on the audio transmission so, um, i did expect to get an interview at some time but, no, it didn't happen. i guess the focus on, um, was on donald trump. >> according to johnson, no one answered his numerous pleas for help over capitol police radio frequencies. johnson says he "didn't hear

anything on the radio." according to johnson, pitman kept vital information about the protests from front-line officers like him. pitman was the assistant chief of the department in charge of intelligence operations. >> we should have been better prepared that day and we could have been better prepared that day if the information was dissim nateed like it was supposed to be -- disseminated like it was supposed to be. >> once protesters moved inside the building, johnson's first concern was the safety of senators. his job was to protect them. in rising panic, he called over the radio for direction and assistance. even now, two years later, he's baffled by the response he got. >> i was requesting permission to evacuate the senate side, the senate chambers, because i had a clear line of sight to get them out the senate door, and i didn't get permission. the dispatcher called a couple times to see if i could get permission. no response. >> with him onto pitman and the other supervisors unresponsive, johnson says he decided to begin the evacuation of senators

himself. >> the person that i thought was going to authorize the evacuation didn't do it. i wanted to get those members of congress out as quickly as i could. that's why i initiated, um, you know, those evacuations. me being disciplined, it wasn't as important as not getting the members of congress and their staff to safety. >> footage we reviewed seems to bolster johnson's account. the video shows johnson conducting the evacuation of senators from the chamber. yet tarek johnson wasn't rewarded for what he did. he was punished. a photo emerged of johnson wearing a ma ga hat outside of the capitol. that picture cost him his career. >> sometimes i look at it and go thank you, god, for blessing me with this hat and sometimes i'm like, wow! i wish this hat never came into my life. >> a biden voter, johnson says he donned the hat in an effort to rescue fellow officers he believed were trapped in the building. >> i figured if i had the hat on, it would be easier for me to

navigate my way through the crowd. it was basically self-preservation and deescalation and i needed to get up those steps. i couldn't say what would have happened walking through that crowd without it. >> but for the crime of wearing a trump hat, johnson found himself suspended. ultimately, he resigned from the force and lost his pension. he now works part-time as a furniture mover. pitman, meanwhile, thrived. two days after january 6th, nanci pelosi elevated pitman to acting chief of the capitol police. late last year, pitman took a high-paying job as the head of security at uc berkeley which is right outside pelosi's congressional district. berkley announced pitman's hiring with unqualified praise for her "steadfast commitment to social justice." pitman herself boasted about her heroic performance on january 6th. her department, she said, "saved democracy that day." we reached out to pitman for comment but she didn't get back to us.

tarek johnson spent 22 years as a capitol police officer on january 6th. he says he was in charge of securing the certification of the presidential elections. so he was right in the middle of it. if anyone was, tarek johnson was. here is more of our sitdown interview with him. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me. >> tucker: from the outside, here's how it looked. we now know huge parts of the federal government were aware there was going to be something big happening at the capitol on january 6th. they knew there were going to be big demonstrations there, and they prepared for that, but the capitol police on which you served for 22 years did not seem prepared at all and, of course, that would be the front line in preparedness. was the capitol police prepared for that day? >> the front-line officers and supervisors were not prepared for that at all. >> tucker: when you say "at all" you had no idea it was coming? >> we knew there was going to be a demonstration that day but we had no idea that we were going to be facing what we faced on

that actual day. >> tucker: so things start to fall apart. people stream in the building. you call upwards in the command chain, "help me!" you don't gate response. what do you -- you don't get a response. what do you do next? >> around 2:00 -- it may have been a little bit after 2:00 -- i hear an officer say that the capitol was breached. so i ran inside of the building. i ran, you know, to assist. i knew that, um, that location of where the first breach occurred was near where the members of congress would be locked in. we initiated a lockdown, so that means the chamber doors on the senate side and on the house side were locked. so that means the members of congress would be safe inside those locked rooms. >> tucker: yes. >> so i ran over to the house side first to make sure those doors were locked and then i ran over to the senate side to make sure that those doors were locked. so i asked over the radio and i say something to the effect t that, um, "we need direction! we have hundreds of people inside of the building. what do you want us to do?

we need some direction!" i heard no response. no response. so, you know, um, at that particular time -- >> tucker: how could -- nobody responded ? >> nobody responded. >> tucker: at some point, you put on a maga hat? >> yes, now, um -- >> tucker: i think we have it. i think we have the actual maga hat. >> yes, i have the maga hat. i have it here in plastic. >> tucker: j6 it says. >> i labeled it j6. >> tucker: tell us how you and why you the hat on. >> we had a distress call there were approximately 10 or 11 officers -- i can't remember the exact number -- trapped at the top of the rotunda steps. i elicited the help of the cdu officers to help me go up the steps. i kept yelling up the steps to get up to the guys. as i was going down, there was a demonstrator on -- i believe he was on the right side of me. he reached over. i didn't know what he was doing.

i didn't know if he was going to hit me and he put the maga hat on my head. as i was still trying to walk down the steps, then he asked for the hat back. i said, well, i would like to keep it because the hat will help me. >> tucker: it's your passport through the crowd! >> exactly! >> tucker: capitol police serves both parties in the congress, protects both parties. >> 100%. >> tucker: it has to be that way. in the wake of january 6th, you saw what looked like partisanship at the capitol police. did you perceive that? >> i'm still shocked because as a capitol police officer, we even had our chief of police -- at the time, his name was -- well, steven sun -- he called for all the officers who was at work that day, he called for everyone to come in. we all went to, um -- we all went to emancipation all in the cbc. this is during the black lives

matter demonstrations. >> tucker: yes. >> he told us as capitol police officers, we need to stay neutral. we need to stay neutral. period. so, um, we were like, you know, ok. that's what we do, because we protect democrats. we protect republicans. we protect everybody. so we need to stay neutral. so then after january 6th, um, you had, um, some, um, police officers who were not neutral. they didn't seem neutral. >> tucker: at all. >> and that was an issue, yes. >> tucker: so, i mean, that devalues the credibility of capitol police, doesn't it? if they're allowed to be partisan in public? >> they're supposed to be neutral, period. >> tucker: since you were there on january 6th, what did you think of the job of the january 6th committee? do you think they were honest in the way they approached it? do you think they got to the truth? >> i pray almost trail daily that they would -- i pray almost daily that they would get to me. i was never asked to testify. >> tucker: you were never asked by the january 6th committee? >> i was never asked by anybody

connected to the january 6th committee to testify. um, i asked myself why every d day. and every day i might have a different answer but, um, i -- you know, i looked at pretty much they focused on donald trump and not the failures of the capitol police. >> tucker: why do you think they were there? >> i think that some people there had planned on being violent. some people may have turned violent after what they were going through. i think that, um, people wanted to support their president. they wanted to -- some of those people wanted just to support him and some of those people, um, didn't commit violence, and some of those people didn't plan on it. >> tucker: we have not answered every question about what actually happened on january 6th. far from it. there's still so many mysteries from that day, but one thing we know for certain is that the story they told you about it, a packed tale of good versus evil, insurrection with no guns that took place at the u.s. capitol, those were lies and those were

lies told for a very specific purpose. of course, the people in power wanted more power and they got it on the basis of those lies. but in the process, many lives were destroyed, and some people are still in jail tonight not having had their constitutionally guaranteed moment in front of a jury of their peers. they haven't even been put on trial yet and they're still rotting. julie kelly is the one journalist in this country who's been following this very closely. she wrote a book on it. "january 6th, how the democrats used the capitol protests to launch a war on terror against the political right" which is a perfect summation of what actually happened. julie joins us now. julie, thank you so much for coming on. it dawned on us -- these tapes make it very clear that the story we've been presented is an absolute fabrication, it's a lie, it's a fraud, that people may still be in jail on the basis of these lies. we wanted to talk to you for an update on where those cases are tonight. >> so, yes, there are -- well,

at least 100 men have been held on pretrial detention orders over the past two years. that means that a judge has denied them bail because the government, doj successfully argued that that individual was a threat to the community. this includes, tucker, people charged with nonviolent offenses like construction and conspiracy, so, of course, they don't have access to what could very easily be exculpatory evidence contained in this video, but aside from the now, i think, three dozen men who are held under pretrial detention orders, tucker, believe it or not, there are some men going on 24, 25, 26 months denied bail, languishing in jail including the d.c. gulag as the government continues to delay their trials. this all has the imromater by the way of every judge on the d.c. district court. i want to emphasize the real villains here are the federal

judges in washington d.c. >> tucker: that's right. >> who allowed the federal government to play every single game to keep this evidence out of the hands of defendants violating their oath of office to protect the rights of defendants and their due process rights. so i really want to emphasize that. but, look, tucker, there's 1,000 criminal defendants right now. half of them have pleaded guilty or been convicted at trial. so -- and the government just announced two months ago in january that they were still uploading global, they call, discovery which means material related to the entire investigation. what they did was arrest people first, find the evidence later and cover up what could, um, potentially exonerate these defendants. >> tucker: if this were happening in any other country, the u.s. state department would immediately acknowledge these were violations of the most basic human rights. these are political prisoners and the u.s. government would condemn it but it's happening here and it's ignored, except by you, and i so appreciate your tireless reporting on this.

julie kelly, thank you. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: so as far as we know for more than two years, no one in our vast and well-funded media landscape demanded to see the footage that we have been showing you. footage that was shot with your money on cameras that you paid for on public property that technically you own. so we did and we got it and we're proud of that, i guess. it's kind of a basic function of journalism but now that we have done that, well, of course, we've commit someday crime -- committed some crime, says the media. >> carlson down shifting violence by showing people calmly walking around the capitol. tucker was trying to persuade his viewers while there were some bad apples, most of those there were peaceful. >> right! showing you the video! can you imagine? ignore your lying eyes. msnbc has the truth on tap. more next.

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include the leaders of the democratic party and their allies in the media, they had a complete monopoly on what you were allowed to know about what actually happened in the capitol on january 6th. and they defended that monopoly with great ferocity as monopolists tend to do. the moment we broke the monopoly by simply getting access to the footage -- that's what you're supposed to do if you work in the news business -- all the media outlets went crazy. we couldn't resist not to be self-referential but it's too hilarious so we assembled a montage so here it is. >> what we saw tonight, allison from tucker is nothing new. he's been trying to sanitize the very real violence we all saw unfold at the u.s. capitol. >> 41,000 hours of footage from an attempted coup is federal evidence. how on earth is kevin mccarthy trying to justify to fellow members of congress giving

41,000 hours of federal investigative evidence and material to fox news? >> this is the danger of not fairness, unfairness. you should give it to every news organization at the same time. >> what's next? is the speaker of the house going to turn over the daily schedules of the capitol police? are they going to give them the codes to the locked doors? >> nobody that believes any of that garbage tucker was spewing, none of their kids will ever believe that garbage. >> it feels like a soviet system or, you know, the way the nazis would build a village. tucker carlson is doing the same thing with the footage from 1/6. >> tucker: ha-ha. we're both soviet and nazi! what you're hearing, of course, is panic. it's fear. a hurt dog barks! but it's still pretty funny. steve covers the media for a living better than anyone else. he's the author of "uncovered"

and he joins us tonight. thank you for coming on. i think i'm getting kind of old but the thought the whole point of the news media was to get evidence and bring it to viewers or readers and let them assess for themselves like in a country full adult citizens but, no? >> you would think so -- i'm sorry d don lemon say this is the problem with fairness? i think that -- >> tucker: it's so great! ha-ha. >> tucker, look, this is, as you mentioned, a total panic episode we're watching in realtime flailing by the corporate press because, yes, for years now, as you mentioned, over two years, they've crafted a narrative that really is a house of cards. no one really believes that what the media portrays which is that this is just another 9/11, the worst attack since the civil war, no one actually believes that. you look at poll after poll of the january 6th committee which really was in partnership with the media -- i mean, they actually had a former media executive at abc craft the committee's videos that you saw. i mean, it was a total partnership, and yet, it didn't move the needle at all. no one was swayed by the total

sham that we saw from the january 6th committee and so now, yes, you would think media would you be curious about lots of elements of january 6th like, you know, who planted the bombs outside of the dnc and the rnc and the massive security failures as you mentioned which was actually -- it was one of the elements that the january 6th committee did look into, as we now know, but was kept out of the final report because they decided to make it all about trump. you would think that maybe they'd be curious or at least any rationale person might be curious about ray apps, someone who was a leader of the oath keepers and buddies with stewart rose and the only person on video on january 5th night and january 6th morning encouraging people to go into the capitol and he's getting glowing profiles in the "new york times." someone should say what is going on? why is this happening exactly? and so, no, in the service of the narrative, a narrative that no one really in the country is believing, this is the panic we get. >> tucker: yeah. yeah. everybody's on the same team! i mean, you would think, like, the conventional way to see it

is left versus right, republican versus democrat. well, if that's true, why is the "new york times" doing a nine-part series on how mitch mcconnell got so much money from china? they would never do that because he's on their side! ha-ha. it's so great. it's all very obvious. steve, great to see you tonight. thank you so much. >> thank you, tucker. >> tucker: well, it turns out the same people, the same media outlets that lied to you for over two years over january 6th, it was a dangerous insurrection, have been telling you we have to spend a lot more, billions more in the war in ukraine forever. if you don't agree, well, you work for putin. now, they're saying we need to supply f-16's to ukraine. it's insane, of course, and it is fundamentally a court tenant of neoliberalism that controlling the internal affairs of other countries matters a lot more than improving the lives of your own citizens. what's amazing is how many republicans in this country -- there's more evidence everyone

is on the same side -- agree. here is senator dan sullivan of alaska. >> you know, on the f-16's, i hosted several ukrainian pilots last summer in washington d.c. we were pressing for f-16's. a sent a letter to the secretary of defense to general millie, chairman of the joint chiefs. it looked like it was moving forward well within the bureaucracy of the pentagon. the president gets off a helicopter a couple months ago and says no and then last week, the national security adviser says, well, we're not going to do f-16's for now. that's exactly the wrong approach, george. >> tucker: so what's interesting here is that no one is representing what the majority of americans want which is peace. the majority of americans do not want to be in a hot war with russia, not because they're pro-putin. they don't like putin. because they don't think a war like that would benefit the united states but the republican parties, its leaders and the democratic party, its leaders disagree.

they don't want any kind of military hardware we might send to ukraine and they don't care about the consequences of that decision what's interesting is there's been almost no debate on this publicly at all but there is a presidential race coming up, so now is the time to find out what people really think. and by the way, good people could disagree on this subject. we're not saying that people that disagree with us are evil. we're saying they should know what they're think now that they're standing for office. we've written a questionnaire for republicans who may decide to jump into the race for president in 2024. it's a very simple questi questionnaire. here are the questions: first s opposing russia in ukraine a vital american national strategic interest? is it really important or not? if so, why? two, what specifically is our objective in ukraine? how will we know when we have achieved it? what's our goal? how will we know when we've won? if we don't know that, we should slow down. three, what's the funding of military equipment you'd be willing to send to the government of ukraine? we're sending fighter jets. should we sent nukes? four, should the united states

support regime change in russia? everyone hates putin. should we kill him? is that a good idea? what happens next? five, given russia's economy and currency are stronger than they were before the war, do you still believe that u.s. sanctions have been effective? everyone assumes sanctions work. do they? and finally, do you believe the united states faces the risk of nuclear war russia? really simple. what are the stakes here? so we sent these questions to people who have announced or seem like they might announce. donald trump, nikki haley, ron desantis, mike pompeo, mike pence, tim scott, glenn you youngkin, christina, greg abbott, asa hutchon and john bolton. we sent these questions with respect. we sincerely want to know, we sincerely we believe the public has a right to know their position on the biggest issue in the world right now which is will there be a third world war? and we said we'll give you until monday to reply. that seemed fair and at that point, we'll let you know what they say.

russell brand is a long-time stand-up comedian, a hollywood movie star and all of a sudden one of the most articulate and free-thinking thinkers in the world. remarkable person, we've been trying to talk to him for a long time. in just a moment, you'll hear part of our conversation.

>> tu >> trace: welcome to fox news live, i'm trace gallagher in los angeles. president biden is out with a new plan to boost medicare finances by 2050. the plan would raise taxes on those making more than $400,000 or more a year and allow medicare to negotiate prices for more prescription drugs. the plan would drop prices on prescription drugs sooner. the president says that'll reduce the deficit by $200 billion by 10 years. the proposal likely to face an uphill battle in congress. republicans normally oppose new

tax increases. china's foreign minister says there'll be "conflict and confrontation if washington doesn't change course." he claims the u.s. is engaging in suppression and containment of china rather than engaging in fair rules-based competition. he also suggests the recent balloon crisis could have been avoided. the u.s. says it wants to compete with china but does not seek conflict. i'm trace gallagher. >> tucker: russell brand has been an actor, comedian and podcast host for decades. all of a sudden, he's one of the most forceful voices of truth in the english speaking world. he's also a deeply interested person with a lot of insights about god. amazing. russell brand. here is a small part of our conversation with him on "tucker carlson today." >> as much as i might enjoy the feeling of privilege and luxury -- and i'm certainly making no claims to be an aesthetic -- i

remember what reality is. i remember that my wellness is contingent upon spiritual connection, upon certain values and principles and they -- i'm sorry to admit -- they involve sacrifice and self-scrutiny about my own conduct and behavior which is often -- i often fall short and i'm working on improving myself. i continue to work on improving myself. so when i sort of hear morality sort of as bombast or when i hear rhetoric divorced from compassion, it makes me feel uneasy. so i've been blessed with a very practical spirituality, like many desperate people. i need spirituality. i need god or i cannot cope in this world. i need to believe in the best in people. i need to believe that there are new alliances possible, new ways of us communicating because i see attro trophying and corrupt systems delivering yet more misery to people and i think it's increasingly necessary to find new ways of framing the conversation and looking into our hearts when we're speaking. are we being kind? are we being loving?

are we being the best we can be? on whose behalf are we speaking? am i doing this for self-glorification? am i doing this because i have obligations to rumble the platform i'm on? am i doing this because i genuinely believe a better world is possible and that world is born into us individually moment to moment. i genuinely believe in change. i don't believe we need systems of condemnation. i don't believe if people aren't heavily policed and heavily controlled, they'll behave badly. i believe we can self-organize. i believe i'm optimistic about your country. i'm optimistic about mine. i'm optimistic about the world. i think the price of that optimism is a degree of reason and an acceptance many people see the world very, very differently at this time and we're going to have to allow one another some distance to be who we are whether that's individually or communally. these are the areas that interest me. these are the things that have always interested me. the fact was i just didn't have enough self-discipline to resist the allure of stardom and i fell

face first into the glitter and i'm only just pulling myself out now. but once i stopped drinking and taking drugs t became clear there was a lot more on offer. the ability to, in fact, as they say, recovery, the term "recovery" is undergirded by the idea we recover the person we're intended to be. this idea of intention i think is rather beautiful because when you live in a nihilistic, post rationalistic, materialistic world where there can't be no glory or meaning, none of russ meant to be anything, the idea there might be a purpose for you, that there might be something you can become, this, um -- i found this -- i did a very engaging and comfort -- i engaged the more narcissistic aspects of me i can achieve something in my life but as time has gone on, there's an ongoing tension between these things, individual achievement and sort of ongoing desire for recognition and applaudist but a deeper understanding there's

something valuable here on offer that we can achieve something -- it's actually sort kind of humble irritatingly, isn't it, it's mostly about helping people directly. my world view is formed by spiritual principle rather than political principles. that my values are derived from quite simple ideas around kindness, community, acceptance, gratitude and i'm making no claim to practice these principles or anything like that perfectly but at least i know i'm aspiring to and i know my spirituality is about my conduct and how i behave rather than telling other people how they should behave. >> tucker: as in all revolutions, the first targets of indoctrination are children and it's definitely happening in our revolution. more details after the break. cole hauser is an award winning actor who has starred in good will hunting too fast, too

furious and the current hit show yellowstone. beyond his impressive career, he is a proud supporter of the tunnel to towers foundation. i was able to spend some time with cole and his family to reflect on those who have sacrificed so much to defend our freedom. i know how much you care about america and our veterans and all the things. but you have such a platform now. yeah. and to share that with us that we need to get the word out that we have to take care of these great heroes and their families. you know, as i started to be more and more successful, i was like, how can i help? but when i heard of the tunnel of the towers, and i met brandon in idaho and his family, i was like, wow. there's actually a charity where we know where the money's. going to go. we have 95.1% of every dollar goes to our programs. and i think brandon's a great spokesman for t2t and and his wife, shannon, has two daughters. i mean, oh, my god. they're just special families. so pretty much, if you put your life

on the line, if something goes bad, they're there. that's awesome. yeah. they're incredible people, man. you saw all the stuff we put in these homes, right? i was i was blown away. and they deserve it. they earned it. this is not of course, we give them a mortgage free home, but look what they gave up. they gave up their bodies so, cole, why should americans give donate help? tunnel to towers foundation. i mean, is there any better organization to help the people that has fought for this country and the freedoms that we have? it's that simple. it is that let's take care of each other. and you're going to join us on that mission. thank you. hey, i'm cole hauser. i want you to join me in supporting our nation's heroes and their families. it's only $11 a month. go to t2t dot org.

♪ >> tucker: it's harder to brainwash adults than children part adults have seen a lot mor so every revolution goes for th kids first. we see that everywhere now.

she has just written a new book about what's happening it's called stolen youth, radicals are erasing innocence and indoctrinating pride think is a much for coming on very tell us what is the thesis of the book quest to get the thesis is the cultural revolution has arrived in america and they are targeting our kids. tigue's are easier to indoctrinate kids then the adults. every cultural revolution and kids has separated the family and tried to first. >> to the kids. this is happening not just in our schools, it's happening in our institutions in our various organizations, corporations obviously and we noticed how kids are the first target of it right we needed. >> that message out that previous countries that have ha the totalitarian regimes can sa they didn't know that people wh get our books they can't say they didn't know, they have to nopa. >> not. >> too personal on tv, you are

one of the few people in the media i know has made decisions on the basis of what's best for your family first and i really do admire that. my question though is about parents who don't seem too reac in the face of indoctrination o there own children. wisecracks to get it's hard to convince parents that this is happening for a parents don't want to believe there is in their school library, they don' want to believe there teachers are indoctrinating them. they see the list of tik tok videos, they think not in my area, and it's happening everywhere. the it is the message, it is happening near you. >> tucker: that is true, i live in texas, i have a live in florida it's happening there. >> exactly. >> tucker: more news after the break.

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>> tucker: that is it for us tonight, tomorrow night we will have more on what actually happened on the capitol on january 6. our conversation, an extended version of our conversation wit russell brand. have the best night with the ones you love, we will see you tomorrow. ♪ >> sean: welcome to hannity. january 6 is now dominating the news cycle all over the country. in washington, democrats, capitol hill and others, seething with rage, but per usual, they're not telling the whole story. they or omitting a critical element of that fateful day. how did writer news breach one of the most important buildings and one of the most fortified cities