an electrician, crushing it. >> bill: real estate is good, well paying, if you are looking for something, might be what you want. >> dana: good to be here, see you later. 10 seconds actually. >> we begin with fox news alert, congress demanding answers and first hearing on true origins of the covid virus, i'm julie in for harris today. thank you for joining me, two are behind the lab leak theory, the white house says there is no definitive consensus. they are intent to get to the bottom of it. >> transferred from a bat to intermediate source to human, in other words, did it come from nature or was it the result of laboratory or research accident,

did it come from a lab? this question is fundamental to help us predict and prevent future pandemics. >> expert witnesses putting holes in the story, we've been told, for the last three years. >> why do so many people believe the virus came from nature? >> the natural origin camp got its story out first, always a big help. painted the lab leak as a conspiracy theory. it was promoted by science administrators in the united states. >> dr. fauci dismissed the lab leak theory, for years in fact. he expected it to be a big topic today, new e-mails reveal covid's top doc prompted drafting of a paper to disprove the lab leak theory.

former site chairman jason chavetz and marc siegel are on site, interesting to see how they explain this one, mark. interesting details coming out of the hearing this morning, members say they are trying to answer straight-forward, but important question. how did covid-19 first spread? there has been speculation for years, no firm answers. the hearing got underway two hours ago, started with different testimony from different experts including former head of the cdc and public health experts including a professor at johns hopkins, lawmakers stress today is start of much broader investigation. >> discovering the origins is vital. it matters for the future of the world and we aren't finished. we're just beginning. >> the facts are the evident

remains inconclusive, therefore we must allow our scientists and intelligence communities to gather evidence without politicization. >> the hearing got underway, experts testify china is causing problems, problematic and blocking the world from learning how it spread, former government agencies stress we may never know how it all began. >> do you think we will ever know how the pandemic originated? >> might not, might not everknow, unfortunate, but a possibility we might not ever know. >> dr. fauci was not on the witness list, but it is possible he could be called to testify at a later date. the white house has been asked about this numerous times and they say the investigation remain ongoing and they have an

open mind as to where covid-19 may have come from. >> jason chaffetz and marc siegel join me now. jason, please explain to me why, why it has taken three years for americans to possibly learn what the government already knew about the origins of covid and why did we have to wait for the gop to dig for answers? >> well, it was malpractice by democrats who control the house and senate, they never asked a probative question about the origins of this, they lack intellectual curiosity. republicans are in charge of the house, they can issue subpoena and request documents, that is core question. what were scientists seeing, what were they saying and doing in realtime.

it is biden administration shcough up documents to get to the truth. >> you have a new op ed, if the white house doesn't change course, the next pandemic could come from a lab, too. cruz is calling out the top doc, watch. >> there has been no person who has done more to destroy trust in the scientific and medical community than dr. fauci. he told millions of americans lies willingly, knowingly, glibly, supremely arrogantly. should there be accountability, he would be prosecuted for lying under oath and go to jail for lying under oath to congress. >> marc, do you agree, do you think fauci will be held accountable and should he?

>> my sense of dr. fauci is different, i have interviewed him multiple times, i think he believes it did not come from a lab. he was so holding to that position, he was suppressing alternative idea. i tell you something else that is important, after sars in 2003, he decided to build consortium of scientists around the world and trust scientists but redfield, who will testify today, had a direct connection with head of the cdc and china and got the impression gou was just a messenger. fauci was pushing theory of national origin at same time china was suppressing information just as it had done previously, not allowing us at the truth. you are seeing intelligence

agencies come forward. dr. redfield had access to fauci and he's been telling me our intelligence community knows something and they will start revealing it. you asked, why didn't they reveal it before? we need to know and i agree with senator cruz, how this started, because we're out there still playing with viruses and doing gain of function research in countries woe can't trust, still doing it here. pfizer says they are playing with sars co-v2. i find that dangerous, we could spawn another pandemic easily. >> this is proof there is no way for the government to protect us from future pandemics and when they have critical information, they will not share it and it will take republicans to do digging three years after

millions of people have died from covid or any future cause to a pandemic. that is the bottom line here, is trust. they lost our trust. >> yeah, that is a shame, there are millions of americans looking to the cdc, that trust factor is down near zero because they suppressed the intellectual curiosity, they suppressed contrary opinions, suppressed social media and through news outlets to talk about theories and to look at the possibilities, let alone different things, the mask. problem is, it is not just origins of this, the mask, the mandates, what went on with vaccine, transmissions of the vaccine are the subject. it starts with being self-critical, looking at the

past and finding the origins. >> great to see you both, thank you. there is shocking new video, which shows masked group of teens trashing a chinese restaurant in new york city over the weekend, just the latest example of out of control crime crisis prompting more calls for immediate action, plus the kidnapping and murder of american citizens in mexico bringing new attention to the brutality of cartels and also putting pressure on president biden to step up to fight the violence. >> cartels are oi danger to all of us, they need to start by saying they think it is a problem. rs: to combat today's rising prices, lower your monthly payments with the 3 c's. pay down your credit cards. pay off your car loan. consolidate your debt with a va home loan from newday.

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>> the kidnapping of four americans in mexico, two dead, putting a spotlight on danger of drug cartels. the four were abducted friday after shoot out between cartel gangs, right across the texas border. there has been an arrest in the case. the biden administration is calling the incident unacceptable and lawmakers are demanding crackdown on cartels. peter doocy pressed the press secretary, watch. >> why is president biden so close with cartels operating so close to the border of the u.s.? >> we are coordinated, our relationship with mexico to deal with what we're seeing as relates to violence and cartel. >> americans are being

slaughtered, would president biden be taking the same approach? >> the president takes it seriously. >> bill melugin is live in brownsville, texas, with the latest. hi, bill. >> bill: good morning, the bodies of the two americans are who were killed are still in mexico in the custody of mexican authorities. the fbi is trying to bring them back to the u.s. the two who survives are in the hospital in brownsville. this is the first suspect arrested in connection with this deadly attack, this is the man found guarding the wooded shed where the americans were discovered yesterday. the americans found in 30s minutes outside of matamoros. jose guadalupe is the first

suspect arrested, they are looking for more. two surviving americans received an escort into the united states in ambulances cht. the cartel gunmen moved them from spot to spot. one of the americans has a gunshot wound to his leg, but expected to be okay. the surviving two victims were transported to brownsville, texas, receiving medical care at a local hospital. one victim sustained serious bodily injury during the attack. we are working with the department of state to get the deceased victims back into the united states. they were shot at within minutes of crossing the border for brownsville. they were in town for a medical procedure and what happened before the shooting is unclear,

federal sources say it was likely a case of mistaken identity. some u.s. lawmakers are calling for military action in a stronger u.s. response against the cartels, here is texas congressman troy nehls, take a listen. >> they will sneak across into the united states, take the fight to cartel and use extreme prejudice because they are killing americans. >> bill: taken general merrick garland said he is outraged by the attacks and promising there will be consequences for whoever was involved. back to you. >> thank you, bill melugin. cassy, vice president of conservative credit card company coin, and former executive director of american rising pack and kevin walling, former biden campaign surrogate join us now.

cassy, i need to address peter doocy's question to the press secretary, he asked why is president biden comfortable with cartels operating so close to the border of the u.s.? karine jean-pierre said because of what we've done, fentanyl is at historic lows, i must call her out for this. historic lows, how dare she call these numbers historic lows. how about historic highs. look at fentanyl from 2020 to 2022, 14 pounds up, 33%. okay. full year of 2021, 10,000 pounds, full year of 202040,00 plus pounds. it only takes two pounds of fentanyl to kill somebody.

these are thousands of pounds. deaths are up 25% as a result of fentanyl at the border. how does the white house say we are at historic lows, that is an outright lie. >> it is a lie and abomination to the americans devastated, the american community devastated by this. julie, there have been seizures, some enough to wipe out the entire population of the united states. that is sometimes a single seizure and cartels are emboldened by this administration's lack of interest in the border security issue. they are not interested in it, they are more interested in kowtowing to the base than the american people. if you talk to anyone who spent a measurable amount of time on the border, they will tell you cartels have infiltrated our country and blessed border

patrol agents doing lord's workday in and day out are seeing us and not feeling support of the administration and now the administration is saying we will do this about face because they worked and getting pushback from the base. >> i want to go back to how much fentanyl will kill somebody. i mentioned two pounds, 2.2 pounds of fentanyl equals 500,000 lethal doses. okay. in 2022, there is 33.2 rise since 2021, talking tens of understand thises of pounds of fentanyl. you do the math. kevin, seriously, what is this white house thinking by making statements like that? >> julie, i totally agree with your outrage on issue. we're losing americans every

year in fentanyl overdoses, many in their 20s and 30s. we heard the mother testifying last week that lost two sons, this is upward trend we are seeing in this country, that is why this administration is you have mooing so quickly when it comes to this border. we increased 12% year over year in terms of border security, largest jump in the history of dhs. that is 300 border patrol agents joining 23,000 americans responsible at dhs and border patrol for securing the border. the president traveled to mexico in january working with the president of mexico and securing billions on the mexican side to increase security. julie, to your point, it is not enough and this tragedy of losing two americans is

horrific. >> cassie, this administration has ignored the border. kamala harris was given a job to figure out the origin or root cause of illegal immigration, it is called open border, you don't have to do research. cartels are getting away with killing americans on our side of the border and only now does this administration care when americans on the other side are killed with guns. >> yeah, that's right. give kevin credit for stats he rattled off, the reason the administration is doing that now, because one of the first things they did when president biden took place was undo policies that had been working and keeping illegal immigration at bay, something we could contain and deal with and something because we're dealing with the fentanyl crisis, you can say, we have illegal

immigration and now can focus on the larger issue. now everything is a mess. it is a mess because they created the mess and they are doing something about it. okay, golf clap for that, but you created this mess and americans are hurting and frankly dying because of it. >> yeah, it is sadly time for americans to take matters into their own hands, stop traveling to mexico, stop giving them their money, we have to help ourselves. we appreciate you coming on. right now, china is the focus of a hearing on the greatest threat to the united states. the communist nation continuing its talk of potential conflict with the u.s., the white house meantime, seeming to brush it you hava. plus inflation is a big problem, i don't need to tell you that, now the fed chair is hearing from lawmakers. >> wouldn't it be fair to assess

a lot of policy or inflation we've seen here may well be due to policy decisions by this administration? >> one lawmaker at yesterday's hearing is my next guest, do not miss this, republican senator john kennedy joins me next.

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investigation. doj findings were announced just moments ago. >> lmpd undermined public relations and strained the relationship with the community. there is reason to believe the lmpd epigauged in pattern of conduct that violates first and fourth amendments of the constitution. >> the department is planning to institute major reform, we'll continue to watch. >> the latest economic data come in stronger than suggested, which suggest interest rates is likely to be higher than previously anticipated. it will likely historical record cautions against prematurely loosening policy. we will stay the course until the job is done.

>> that is fed chair jerome powell warning they could raise interest rates higher, that will make everything more expensive. powell telling senators rate hikes could come at more frequent pace and president's policies are not to blame in surge in prices and he got an earful from both sides. >> if you could speak directly to two million hard-working people with decent jobs today who you are planning to get fired over the next year, what would you say to them? >> inflation is extremely high and hurting the working people of this country badly, all of them, not just two million of them. >> putting two million people out of work is part of the cost and i that have to bear it? >> you are raising interest rates to slow the economy, are you not? >> yes. >> in effect, i'm not being critical, you are trying to put

people out of work, that is your job, is it not? >> trying to restore price stability. >> know are senator john kennedy of louisiana, member of the senate banking appropriation committee joins me now. excellent questioning, i don't know if you got answers you were looking for. i don't think they understand the recipe for disaster if the federal reserve were not only to raise interest rates higher and faster, this is just the beginning of a long line of rate hikes to come. >> well, chairman powell is just doing his job. president biden persists in saying that my words, not his, honeybun costs $20 and your 401(k) is crashing because the economy is so good. no one believes that. it is not true and the american

people aren't stupid. president biden's inflation is pernicious, a cancer on the american dream and we're not going to get it down without costing millions of people their jobs unless congress helps on the fiscal side by reducing rate of growth of spending and reducing rate of growth of debt acumulation and jay powell knows that, he can't say it and anyone that knows economic textbook from an ll bean catalog knows that. >> if you could stand by, the subcommittee on the coronavirus pandemic is meeting right now, jim jordan was requesting, let's go to that real quick. >> doctor, you ran the cdc and on the coronavirus task force, rights? >> correct. >> formed on january 29, 2020,

correct? >> correct. >> dr. fauci gets an e-mail which says virus looks engineered, is that accurate? >> that is my understanding. >> i know, did he share that e-mail with you? >> no. >> as member of task force and head of cdc, did he share that with you? >> no. >> dr. gary sundays another e-mail, it would be easy to do in a lab, did he share that e-mail? >> no. >> you didn't see either e-mail, even though you are on the cdc task force formed three days earlier? >> no. >> three days later dr. anderson and dr. gary, they changed their position 180 degrees. the question is why. mr. wade, why would they change their position that fast when only intervening event is

conference call with dr. fauci, guy who wouldn't let dr. redfield see the e-mails he had sent him. why would they change their position, mr. wade? >> well, this question does lie at the heart of the issue. what is pertinent, there is no new scientific evidence that we can see that came available between the dates. >> right, go ahead. >> so you have to ask if there were other kinds of influence available. it is true that dr. fauci and london were powerful research officials. >> i read your testimony, i saw that, cut to the chase and tell what you think was the reason. >> i don't know what the reason was. >> i know what it was. go ahead, i'll let you say, i read your testimony, you said it

in your testimony, maybe you are reluctant here, go ahead. >> look at the timeline, may 21, just a few weeks after the article came out, two of the signatures of the original e-mail to dr. fauci, dr. anderson and dr. gary, were awarded $9 million grant. >> nine million reasons why they changed their mind, i knew you would get to it. i read that last night. three days after they say it came from a lab, they change their position and only intervening event was a call that mr. redfield was not allowed to be on, head of cdc and task force and they get 9 million bucks from fauci, isn't that something? we want to talk to the guys and chairman wenstrup wants to bring in dr. anderson and dr. gary to

get to the bottom of this and move forward and deal with this. here is the key question, i'm just common-sense guy from ohio. i got a degree in economics, you are supposed to get a degree, i got one in economics, they tell you about opportunity cost. when you are spending your time making sure the country believes only one theory, you could have been doing what dr. redfield was doing, trying to figure out how to deal with this virus and dr. fauci was trying to cover his backside. this is highest paid guy in the government getting money to tell us things that were not accurate. we know u.s. tax dollars went to a lab in china, lab not up to code, doing gain of function research and that is where this thing came from and dr. fauci had to prove he can't have that news getting out and did what he

did to exclusion of brilliant guy running the cdc, keeping him out of the loop potentially could have harmed america, that is the thing that ticks us off and why mr. chairman this hearing is important and we get to the bottom of what happened. i yield back. >> thank you. at this point, i'll make -- >> wow, all right. let's talk about it, senator kennedy, weigh in on this, house sub-select committee on coronavirus, you listened to congressmanjordan firing questions, which he knows the answer. he knows fauci knew more than he admits to and wants to see accountability. we after three years millions of deaths should know the origins of covid-19 or try to. >> sunlight is extraordinarily

effective antiseptic. i know dr. fauci, he's a smart man. he has a silver tongue. he enjoys doing media interviews. but his behavior and lack of candor during the epidemic has undermined almost immeasurably the institution of science and public health. and no one knows who to believe anymore. and i think it is incumbent on dr. fauci and his colleagues, who participated with him, to go in front of the american people and tell them the truth. and tell them why they said what they said in light of the evidence they had that they did not share with the american people. and that is not a political statement, that is a fact.

people need to believe in science. people need to believe in public health. and when you have been through what we've been through, i just think dr. fauci and his team have hurt both. >>yia, it's a shame. we deserve answers, especially for all the people who lost loved ones, they deserve answers. there are a couple hearings we're watching in washington, the senate is also in middle of holding a hearin on world-wide threats frommin choo. this coming day after the chinese foreign minister took a direct sho the at the u.s. saying ties risk going off the rail and warned risk plunging the nations into conflict. you have chinese leader xi jinping unleashing similar verbal salvo, the white house

brushing it off. >> we do not seek conflict, no change to the one china policy. we don't believe the chinese have taken that option you hava the table of lethal assistance, we have not seen indication they have acted on it. it is not in china's interest to do that. >> of course it is not, when it is in china's interest to do anything stupid they do and what deterrent from this administration to stop them from doing so? >> china is wealthy in part because of the united states, we helped china be admitted to world trade organization on december 11, 2001. china started cheating december 12th. for a long time we put up with it, president xi has been president of china since 2013 and he's been very, very aggressive all over the world. i do not want a cold war with

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>> we need to show more strength, he's going to come at us with strength. you have to go beyond that, just the bottom line. >> what was one first thing president biden did when he became president? got rid of the china initiative whereby we were putting college professors in jail for selling research to china. president biden got rid of it, what message did that send to president xi? >> weakness. all right, loved having you on, senator john kennedy, great to talk to you. thank you. liberal art critic is telling instagram to shun conservative family and friends. the post creating a fire storm on social media and first democratic presidential candidate mary an williams is

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>> if you know anyone who voted republican, including friends and family, you should shun them, no need to tell them you are no longer communicating with them or why. clearly lots of reaction on social media to your post.

you don't shun family members. shame on you for pushing people this way. this propaganda divides us. joe concha, did you chris rock on his special, did you happen to catch it? it was brilliant and he made a lot of comments attacking left and right, one he mentioned and i didn't know where he was going at first. he said ukraine was better off than united states. he said ukraine, been under war and attacked by putin for a year, more united than the united states and that is a very sad fact and because of people like this a -- politicians. >> joe: i'm not allowed to come over to thanksgiving anymore, i'm not in his world anywhere?

jerry saltz is embracing, instead of civil, honest debate, cut off communication, sit in your safe space and i'm sure he has talked about diversity before, diversity of thought is agree with his orthodoxy or prepare to be exiled. this is from an art critic, you would think he embraced it. >> it is whining, if you don't agree, you are out. that is mentality, if you cannot agree everyone around you, there is no need, it is called a whiney snowflake. it is disgusting and that is further dividing this country and no surprise, it is disappointing. i got to move on, mary ann williamson, we had no idea who she was, she happens to be only

democrat in running to be president in 2024, the white house not taking that seriously. williamson clapping back. watch. >> if i could feel her aura, i don't have anything to share on that. >> i was so sad to see karine jean-pierre, her commentary about me, about crystal balls, i've never spoken or written about and auras and speaking in such mocking terms about someone ruping for president of the united states and is a woman and democratic party. >> mary ann did run in 2016, most of us have never heard of her, but she's running as a democrat, you would think the white house, being a woman, would say good for her, good luck. our horse is not in the race,

good luck, but no. >> did you hear the cackling from the reporters when karine jean-pierre said that, professional job, guys, way to go. if anyone on tplanet who should 23409 be mocking anyone, the worst press secretary in karine jean-pierre. said just yesterday the amount of fentanyl at the u.s. southern border is at historic lows. >> it is probably the most outright lie, i would say ever, but so many, biggest lie of the month, shall we? >> joe: lie and insulting thousands of parents who found their kids dead. and williamson is right, democratic system is rigged to an extent, through the super delegate system. is bernie sanders system, it

allows them to tip the scales to whoever is the desired candidate. good point. >> and karine jean-pierre should be ashamed of herself, should issue an apology, they just deny and move on. we got to move on. joe concha, love you, thank you for watching the faulkner focus, "outnumbered" is after the break, see you tomorrow. lets you take out an average of $70,000. use that low-payment home loan to pay off your high-rate credit cards. then, pay off your car loan. and then take the cash left over and put it in the bank for the financial security that every veteran deserves. - here we go. - remember, mom's a kayak denier, so please don't bring it up. - bring what up? kayak? - excuse me?

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