my name is joshua florence, and one thing i learned being a firefighter is plan ahead. you don't know what you're getting into, but at the end of the day, you know you have a team behind you that can help you. not having to worry about the future makes it possible to make the present as best as it can be for everybody. >> john: brand new at 2, a live look at the pentagon where any minute now lloyd austin and mark mille are set to speak. >> sandra: the military top brass holding a press conference ability ukraine's defense against russia's invasion. it comes a day after that

russian fighter jet crashed into an american drone forcing the military to ditch it in the black sea. >> john: it marks the first direct encounter between the two countries since putin's war began a year ago. a whole lot of questions that demand answer as america reports rolls into its second hour. i'm john roberts in washington. here we go again. >> sandra: john, here we go again. lot of live events expected this hour. we'll be watching for them. we're gonna bring you that news conference live right away. attorney general kellogg is standing by. he said he is fired up. he will be here to react to what we hear from that news conference. first this fox news alert. >> john: massive selloff continuing on wall street as investors get more skit tisch about the banking industry. painful inflation showing no signs of letting up. there could be more trouble for the banking industry on the way. right now fear is growing that switzerland's second largest

bank, credit suisse, could be on the brink of collapse. >> sandra: one of the biggest investment banks in the world. the trigger was last friday's sudden collapse of america's 16th largest bank, silicon valley bank. that led the biden administration to step in and back depositors with what critics are calling a taxpayer funded bailout. >> john: while wall street weighs the strength of the global banking system, president biden set to speak later on this hour in las vegas, where he may be forced to address the state of the economy and reassure americans that their money is safe. >> sandra: fox team coverage begins now. mark thiessen on why the biden administration bears plenty of responsibility for the silicon valley bank's collapse. first we have breaking details. >> we've been going global today, i would say, in the worst possible way with this turmoil associated with the collapse of silicon valley bank making its way over to europe. credit suisse is more than double the size when you look at

the assets of svb. it is the second largest swiss bank right behind ubs. it's had its share of troubles. it was trying to restructure, spin off its investment banking arm. saudi arabia's bank is credit suisse largest share holder. its chairman said there is no plan to build its investment. that seemed to spark another round of selling. not only in credit suisse, but the market down overall. wall street veterans are wondering what happens next? >> selloffs run down the european banking world looking for a european version of what went on with silicon valley bank. fed is trying to figure out, what do we got to do? do we got to do something? is there nothing we have to do? the fed never really knows what it's going to do. it mostly reacts. >> investors are not sure how

jerome powell and the federal reserve will end up playing this. more and more of these investors are betting there will be no interest rate hike at all at next week's meeting. all this turmoil overshadowing a report that came in showing a cooling off in wholesale inflation which is another factor for the feds to consider. john, sandra? >> sandra: you just pointed out you and i spent a lot of time during the last financial crisis covering all the major banks. we stood outside bear sterns. there are moments reminiscent of those days. that is what is causing some would call it irrational pan et. it is scary to see this happen. >> almost 15 years since the bear sterns collapse, st. patrick's day of '08. it kind of started it all with lehman brothers. there are differences between now and then. the similarities are mostly emotional but it is what it is.

sometimes the emotion kind of runs the day and you hope that comes into check in the next few days. sometimes it doesn't make sense necessarily why something selling off as much as it is. it doesn't mean it's not selling off. it still is. >> sandra: interest rates going from 0 to 5 in the shortest period of time in u.s. history. >> never done that. >> sandra: thanks. great to have you. >> john: let's bring in mark thesesen. president biden likely to talk about the economy this afternoon in las vegas. seems up and to this point biden world has been in place where when it rains, rains gold coins. money grows on trees. if you ignore a problem, it's like it's not there. this is something you can't ignore. >> ask the american people how is the economy doing, super majority say it's in terrible shape. they know better than the biden administration because they are living it. here's the problem i'm worrying about. during the lockdown the government pumped an unprecedented amount of money

into the economy. $5 trillion. people didn't have anywhere to spend the money so they saved it. personal savings rates went to the highest numbers on record. once the economy opened up, they started spending. the result of that was inflation because the supply couldn't come up with the deman side. they spent down all those savings. now we just heard that we have the record highest amount of credit card debt that the country has ever had. personal debt. >> john: you get addicted to spending and you keep doing it. >> even just to keep up with inflation. we've gone in two years from the highest level of personal savings on record to the highest level of personal debt on record. at some point people will max out their credit cards. they will stop spending. that means the economy will grind to a halt and we'll have a recession. this is set up for failure right now because we've gone from savings and having being flush with cash to the inflation biden

leashed wiping out the savings and driving people's debt up to record levels. >> john: you write about this in which you say partially, quote, ronald reagan said the nine most terrifying words in the english language was from, i'm from the government and i'm here to help. he's been proven right once again, this time the collapse of silicon valley bank. the bank's failure, second largest in u.s. history was five well intentioned interventions run amuck. >> for 15 years we had the fed pushed interest rates to below market levels to pump the economy. what that did, that drove banks to buy treasury. treasuries are a safe investment, as long as interest rates are low. if interest rates go up, they lose their value. banks like silicon valley bank bought treasuries. then what happened? trillions of dollars of government spending which unleashed consumer spending, which released unprecedented inflation in our economy.

what has the fed done. after the government pushed pedal to the metal to drive the economy to overheat, feds put on the brakes and rose interest rate. silicon valley bank, which had all these treasury, they had billions of dollars in unrealized losses because this supposedly safe investment now became a huge liability. that's what caused the crash. other banks have treasuries, too. there are many banks that are invested in treasuries. hundreds of billions of dollars across the country which means all of them have unrealized losses on their books that could cause a banking collapse. >> john: now you've got president biden bailing out people who had money with the silicon valley bank even if they are over and above the $250,000fdic cap. which led mohamed alarian to say you let the genie out of the bottle here. when it comes to silicon valley bank, a lot of the people that the president is making whole are people who have way more than $250,000 in the bank because they're rich.

>> only 10% of its assets were under $250,000, fdic limit. once you do this for silicon valley bank, you have to do it for everyone. a universal uninsured deposit. it started with the fed pushing down interest rates. then they poured money into the economy. then jacked up interest rates. every time the government gets artificially addresses the economy and pushes the economy, it has unintended consequence. >> john: lot of people who had money in svb are big democratic donors. >> yes, absolutely. >> john: donate to the right party sometimes you get the protection you need. kind of like chicago. all right. thanks, marc. i don't know, sandra. if another bank goes down, how many banks can we guarantee? >> sandra: to add what marc said, to now think poor decision making is determining federal reserve interest rate policy, we are in a whole new world.

that is unprecedented. it shouldn't be the case. it shouldn't be happening. >> john: lot of things shouldn't happen. >> sandra: it is remarkable. there's going to be more on that coming up. we are moments from the pentagon news conference. lloyd austin and mark mille are expected to take questions on yesterday's drone attack. mike tobin reporting live from kyiv. what is the latest on this incident ahead of this briefing at the pentagon? >> well, sandra, we just got con tpeurpation that u.s. defense secretary lloyd austin had a phone conversation with his russian counter part. of course, it is about this midair incident with a u.s. drone and two russian fighter jets. whole thing happened in this part of the world yesterday about 7 a.m. the two russian su-27 fighter jets were scrambled because the

u.s. drone was operating. u.s. pentagon says what they were doing was a routine surveillance mission over international waters. the pentagon said the fighter jets harassed the drone for about half hour buzzing dangerously close, even dumping fuel on the drone from time to time. ultimately the pentagon said during one of the passes, one of the russian fighter jets struck the u.s. drone and broke the propellor. the drone became unop rabl and ultimately the decision was made to ditch it in the black sea. the difficulty you have right now is that the u.s. does not have any war ships in the black sea, only russia has that. you heard from russian officials today saying they do intend to collect the debris of that u.s. drone. the u.s. says they want to protect all of the parts of these u.s. drone as u.s. property but russia has the advantage because they have war ships in the black sea. it's all a very complicated situation. it adds to the tension in

europe. that is punctuated by an incident we saw yesterday. an air intercept. jets were scrambled to intercept a russian fighter that came dangerously close to astonia. these intercepts are fairly kphropb. but what makes this one particularly unique is because the jets that were working alongside each other were from the royal air force and the german air force. sandra? >> sandra: mike tobin on the ground in kyiv. thank you. as we await this news conference, give you a lot of questions over any new details we have gotten since about 24 hours ago, right, john? >> john: one of the big questions will be is the u.s. response going to be stronger than it was yesterday when they suggested this was unprofessional, that it was environmentally unsound. it was unmanned. the russian military still took down an american military

aircraft. that's a big deal. lieutenant general keith kellogg is with us from the america first policy institute. what's your read on this, general? >> yeah, john. thanks for having me. i remember 2019 when the iranians knocked down one of the uav's and we had all hands on deck in the situation room. we brought congressional members in and briefed them on it as well. what we need to do, it's quite simple. what we can do with the reaper, you could put air to air missiles on those and you can change rules of engagement quite clearly. russian aircraft come close to our aircraft in international waters and buzz it, they have the authority to fire the missile at that aircraft. we let everybody in the world know it. lloyd austin would pick up the phone and called showgu. you do it again you'll probably lose a manned aircraft. this is what we're going to do. we have been arming the

predators before that since 2017. first time we ever tried it, it didn't work because it unbalanced the work. we've gotten really good at it. they have an ability to arm those uav's. we should do it and tell the russians we're going to do it. >> sandra: general kellogg, thank you very much for joining us. as we await this briefing, what message do you want to hear leadership send more than 24 hours now since this incident occurred? >> yeah. sandra, thanks for that question. i think we're just kind of hoping everybody will just ignore this in a day or two. this is pretty significant. when you shoot down, or knock down a u.s. aircraft. that wasn't an accident. when you look at that aircraft, that propellor is at the back of it. i don't know how they did it without losing that jet aircraft. they did it. they buzzed it for over 30 minutes. we need to send a message that this will not be tolerated in international air space.

the recovery, the sensorpackage, that's not a good thing. i'm sure though sensor packages were designed to look into crimia. that's where the black sea aircraft are loitering around. they come out of romania. we don't want anybody to pick up those packages because they can see what we have in those sensor packages. they need to send a very strong message. we did it before. we did to it the iranians. they need to do to it the russians. if that's how you make these people back off. the only thing putin understands is strength. lloyd austin needs to pick up that phone and tell showgu this will not be tolerated. >> john: part of what was happening yesterday when the russian jets were buzzing the reaper was that they were dumping fuel on it. is there any sort of strategic value to that or is that more like a russian pilot kind of like a dog marking his territory, peeing all over it? >> john, i think you hit it. i think that's kind of what would happen because it really

doesn't affect the power train. they might think they are affecting the sensor package because the sensor package is, in fact, on the nose of the aircraft but is underneath the nose of the aircraft. it's not on top of the aircraft. unless it can fly upside down and deposit fuel young tphaoet it, it won't work with. i think it was just a harassment. they hoped the operator would pull away and pull back. it didn't happen after about 29, 30 minutes, they decided to get closer to it and knock it down. we just have to send the message that this is not tolerated by the united states of america. >> thank you very much, everyone, for being here today. it is my pleasure to introduce lloyd austin iii and general mark mille. secretary and chairman will each deliver opening remarks and then have time to take a few questions. i will moderate those questions and call on journalists. i would ask that you limb your follow-ups due to our tieing schedule. secretary austin, to you, sir.

>> good afternoon, everybody. we just concluded our tenth highly successful meeting of ukraine defense contact group. before i get to that important work, i want to say just a few words about a troubling episode yesterday. on tuesday, russian aircraft again engaged in dangerous and reckless and unprofessional behavior in the international air space over the black sea. two russian jets dumped fuel on an unmanned u.s. mq9 aircraft in international air space. one russian jet struck our mq9 aircraft resulting in a crash. this hazardous episode is part of a pattern of aggressive, risky and unsafe actions by russian pilots in international air space. now, i just got off the phone

with my russian counter part. as i said repeatedly, it's important that great powers be models of transparency and communication. and the united states will continue to fly and to operate wherever international law allows. it is incumbent upon russia to operate its military aircraft in a safe and professional manner. now, let me turn to the important work of this contact room. today our extraordinary allies and partners reaffirmed our unity an resolve in supporting ukraine's fight for freedom. we were joined again today by some 50 nations of goodwill from all around the globe. they all understand that ukraine's mettle to defend itself from russian aggression is vital for everyone who values

the core principles of sovereignty, self-determination and freedom. today we were joined again by my good friend alexi resnikov. he cams in with a clear meeting for the next steps in ukraine's resistance to russia's campaign of conquest. in the presentations from him and his team under score the continued urgency of our support. this group has pushed hard to ensure ukraine can defend itself from putin's imperial aggression. brave ukrainians stood firm during russia's ground invasion with the help of their new anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles which countries have provided. russia hopes to grind down ukraine in a war of attrition. but ukraine has been supplied by more than 40 countries.

meanwhile, russia has had to depend on iran and north korea and has had to use equipment dating back to world war ii. so russia is running out of capability and running out of friends. putin has now had a year's worth of proof that the united states and the contact group will support ukraine's right to defend itself for the long haul. but putin still hopes he can wear down ukraine and wait us out. so we can't let up and we won't. ukraine doesn't have any time to waste, and i heard clearly today that our fellow contact group members also know that we have to deliver swiftly and fully on our promise commitments. that includes delivering our armored capabilities to the battlefield and ensuring ukrainian soldiers get the training, spare parts and

maintenance support that they need to use these new systems as soon as possible. we'll continue to dig deep for new donations. today we heard updates on our progress and some significant new commitments. sweden announced it will provide ukraine with ten tanks and key air defense components. norway is partnering with the united states to donate two nasam systems to ukraine. the netherlands is making great progress in initiating new contracts to ensure that new capabilities continue to arrive on the battlefield. i want to thank slovenia for its latest contribution, which helps meet several of ukraine's priority requirements, including armor. for more than a year now, farsighted donations by members of this contact group have been crucial to ukraine's fight for sovereignty. and we have provided crucial

combat capabilities that ukraine's defenders will use to further rapel russia's invasion and to exercise initiatives and to create favorable conditions on the battlefield. for ukraine to protect its sovereign territory and defend its citizens over the long term, we must keep going. we're going to help ukraine sustain the tanks, the infantry fighting vehicles and other armored vehicles that are making their way into the front lines. we're going to continue urgently training ukrainian soldiers on the capabilities that we're providing and on a combined arms maneuver tactics they need to succeed. we're going to keep looking into our stocks and our budget to resupply ukraine throughout the year. and we're going to continue our important work in lock step with our ukrainian partners to maintain accountability for the security assistance that we're

providing. finally, above all, we're going to stay united. together we'll help ukraine to fight and live free. together we're helping show rules matter and together we're helping to advance our shared security in an open world of rules and rights. so thank you very much. i'll now turn it over to the chairman for his comments. >> good afternoon, everyone, and thank you, secretary austin, for your leadership. this is our tenth contact group and these meetings and donations that come from it would not be happening without the incredible leadership of secretary austin. so thank you for that. your direction remains critical to future success of the group. also thank you to the ukrainian minister of defense. hef not on the call today but i have talked to him several times in the past week. deputy chief of defense.

all of them continue to lead ukrainian's military in their fight for freedom. also thanks to all the ministers in defense and chiefs in defense from 51 participants in today's meeting including nato and the european union. they joined the meeting and they continued to provide critical support to ukraine. each nation is contributing what they can to ensure ukraine has the means to defend itself against illegal and unprovoked russian invasion. there's been nearly 13 months since russia invaded the sovereign nation of ukraine. ukraine has been independent since 1991. it has presented no threat whatsoever to russia. russia launched and has continued for over a year now a war of aggression and flagrant violation of international law. this is and remains a russian frontal assault on the rules

based international order that has been in place for 80 years. eight decades since the end of world war ii. and the face of this active aggression, in a war of conquest, this group remains unified. nato is united. the people of ukraine are unyielding. they are standing steadfast in the face of the russian onslaught. russia remains isolated. their military stocks are rapidly depleting. their soldiers are demoralized, untrained, unmotivated convicts. their leadership is failing them. having already failed in their strategic objective, russia is increasingly relying on other countries such as iran and north korea, as secretary pointed out. they're using iranian drones to continue to terrorize ukrainian civilians. this relationship is built on the cruel bonds of oppressing

freedom and maintaining. people will not return to the shackles of tyranny. ukrainians remain defiant with steel in their spines and courage in their veins. they have broad support of the united states and the international community. the battle of bahmout continues but ukraine is fighting with valor. ukraine has fixed the russian forces at that city and they are exacting very heavy cost. ukraine remains strong. they are capable and trained. ukrainian soldiers are strong in their combat units, tear tanks and armored vehicles are only going to bolster the front line. ukrainian munition continue to target the communication systems of russia. lacking effective small unit leader and absent the proper equipment, this is a grinding attrition war fare that russia is trying to execute.

wave after wave of russian soldiers are thrown into the chaos of war absence any synchronized coordination and direction. russia continues to pay severely, in terms of lives and military equipment, its continued war of choice. right now there's intense fighting around bahmout and the russians are making small tactical advances, but at great costs. elsewhere the front line remains relatively static with significant exchanges of artillery with no significant military gains by either side. right now, as you know, there's a significant on going effort to build up the ukrainian military in terms of equipment, munitions and training in order to enable ukraine to defend itself. the increased ukrainian capability will allow the ukrainian leadership to develop a wide variety of options to bring this war to a successful conclusion. this is an act of brutal aggression by president putin, and if russian military, with

complete disregard for human life, both civilian and military. the russians are wantingonly killing. the russian forces are sacrificing hundreds per day. political objectives that pwaouten attempted to achieve 384 days ago are obvious to the world and it should be obvious to putin that these objectives are no longer achievable by continuing this war. putin can end this war and he can end it today. he needs to do so. free people are not easily conquered. the ukrainian people are free. they will never give up in their fight to stay free. two weeks ago united states released another package which included artillery, ammunition, vehicle maintenance and vehicles.

nine countries pledged over 150 tanks. this group that met today is providing air defense, artillery, regular artillery, pocket artillery, ammunition. it will be critical to ukraine's ability to continue the fight. a broad mick of air defense systems has been promised and they will protect the skies of kyiv and the free city of ukraine. artillery an armor are going to strengthen ukraine lives and synchronize movement. long range fires will challenge russia's ability to protect and sustain their forces. ukrainian soldiers wear the blue and yellow of the ukrainian flag. colors of 50 other nations that met today stand beside ukraine to support the principles of the rules facing international order. a system in place to prevent aggression and up hold the liberties of sovereignty. that's what keeps the peace throughout the globe. as president biden and secretary

austin and others including the leaders of europe have said we will remain committed for as long as it takes. thank you. i look forward to your questions. >> thank you. mr. secretary, you said you spoke with your counter part. can you give us a sense of russian's reaction to the call? did they suggest to you their defense system was an accident or intentional or that it never happened? can you just give us a better read out of your call. and general milley, have you spoken to your counter part and do you intend to do so? and do you believe after what you've seen that this was intentional? is this considered an act of war? >> thanks for the question. i won't speak for minister shogu or will i get into details of our discussion.

i'll just reiterate that the united states will fly and operate wherever international law allows. now, we take any potential for escalation very seriously, and that's why i believe it's important to keep the lines of communication open. i think it's really key that we are able to pick up the phone and engage each other. i think that will help to prevent miscalculation going forward. >> thanks for the question. on the intentionality. don't know. i do plan to talk to my counter part. we have a scheduled call this evening. was it intentional or not? don't know yet. we know the intercept was intentional. we know the aggressive behavior was intentional. we also know it was unprofessional and unsafe. the russian fighter with our

uav, physical contact with those two. not sure yet. remains to be seen. but i can tell you with certainty though that we have absolute evidence of the contact. it was very aggressive. you heard about the dumping of the fuel. we have video evidence of that. there's no question that that part of it's intentional. actual physical con tack of the aircraft, that i'm not so sure. that we will have to figure it out. as far as an act of war, i'm not going to go there. incidents happen. clearly we do not seek armed conflict with russia. i believe at this point we should investigate this incident and move on from there. but we will continue to exercise our rights in international air sp

space. >> gentlemen, thank you for your time. likely presidential candidates declared ukraine should not be an american priority, as president biden has said he will support ukraine for as long as it takes. chairman milley, the mq9 came down in the black sea where the united states has had any military vessels for more than a year. is it fair to say the u.s. will not recover this mq-9? and do you have any concerns what value it might have to russia, either strategically or for propaganda? thank you. >> thanks, dan. i would, in terms of the importance of ukraine. first of all, we've seen bipartisan support for providing security assistance to ukraine throughout up to this point. i expect that we'll continue to

see that going forward. we heard from senior leaders on both sides offense say that. and so i expect that will continue to enjoy that support. you know, dan, ukraine matters. it matters not to just ukraine or to the united states. it matters to the world. this is about the rules base international order. it's about one country's ability to wake up one day and change the borders of its neighbor and annex its neighbors sovereign territory. as we've seen, countries around the world don't think that's a good idea. that's why you've seen 50 countries not only come to the initial meetings of the ukraine defense contact group, but they continue to come back and they continue to work hard to ensure that ukraine gets everything that it needs to be successful. and that will remain our focus going forward. >> on the recovery team. we know where it landed in the

black sea. probably maybe 4,000, 5,000 feet of water. any recovery operation is very difficult at that depth by anyone. that's the first point. secondly, we don't have ships there, but we do have friends in the area. we'll work through recovery operations of u.s. property and we'll leave it at that at this point. it probably broke up. there's probably not a lot to recover, frankly. as far as the loss of anything, of sensitive intelligence, etc, as normal we would take, and we did, take mitigating measures. we are quite confident that whatever was of value is no longer of value. >> next question, ellie watson, cbs. >> thanks. secretary austin, general milley mentioned the video. we heard reports you're working to declassify video of the incident. what does that video show and when will that video be released? why hasn't it been released yet? general milley, general austin

talked about this behavior. how often is russia conducting these maneuvers and have they increased in recent weeks? >> thank you. as you know, as you said, we are still going through videos and photographs to acertain what we can release, what we can provide. in terms of what the video show, we remain confident in the facts that we have conveyed thus far. that will not change, in terms of what happened and how it happened. and so, again, we'll work through as quickly as we can to evaluate videos. we'll let you know when we have something, in terms of video or stills we can provide you. >> in terms of pattern, yes, this is part of a pattern of behavior.

the united states and russian military forces operate in proximity to each other throughout the world. we are operating in syria, for example. we have areas up in alaska that routinely vessels come in contact in the maritime areas outside hawaii. obviously in europe an particularly in ukraine. so the fact that we operate in proximity to each other is not particularly unusual. we do try to establish deep channels in order to make sure our forces are physically separated and we don't have incidents like this. but there is a pattern of behavior where there is extra aggression being conducted by the russian. we haven't completed our analysis as to why that's happening. it wasn't just involving us. there were some incidents with the british and others. there is a pattern of behavior going on. we have to figure out what it is. that is one of the fundamental

reasons for our calls to their generals. >> thank you. general milley, i wondered if you could clarify something you said earlier. that the united states has a lot of friends in the region. referring to the black sea. will we request allied ships to survey and possibly recover the drone or is the expectation that the u.s. does not intend to recover the drone? and then secretary austin, i'd like to go back to some comments you made in brussels. you said bahmout was largely symbolic. are you concerned the ukrainian investment in bahmout potentially takes away resources that could be applied to the spring offensive and risk the outcome of that offensive? thank you. >> if you don't mind, i'll go first, nancy. first of all, let me applaud the valor, the persistence we've seen from the ukrainian soldiers.

they have done amazing things in bahmout. the russians have been threatening to take it for seven months or so. they haven't been very successful. that's because of the diligence, the commitment, the focus of the ukrainian soldiers. in terms of the significance of bakhmout, i would point to the fact that president zelenskyy is fighting this fight. he will make the calls on what's important and what's not important to his forces and whether he needs to reposition or remain in bahmout. the point i would make is, if he does make a call to reposition at some point in time, it doesn't mean the war is lost. it may mean and probably will mean that he is positioning himself to maintain advantage.

and so i think that's the real key there. but whether or not he stays there or how long they stay there, that's president zelenskyy's call and not anybody else's. and again, our goal is to make sure we are supporting him in whatever battlefield decision he is going to make. by the way, we are generating combat power to the degree we believe it will provide them opportunities to change the dynamics on the battlefield at some point going forward. whatever point that is, whatever they want to do in the future, i think the platforms, the training, the sustainment, the maintenance that we're providing will make a significant difference. as we work through all of this with our allies and partners in detail today in the meeting, we are on pace. that's in large measure due to the professionalism of our forces who are conducting the training and equipping, but also

forces around europe. as the chairman pointed out, there are a number of countries that are conducting training in their countries. they're providing various platforms. we're really focused on how we're going to sustain those platforms as well. >> nancy, on the question of recovery. i wouldn't read too much into what we said, but we do have allies in the region. we don't have any naval vessels in the black sea at this time. we'll work on options. this is probably about 4,000, 5,000 feet of water. probably, don't know for certain yet. it will be days before we have actual word on the impact. if there is reason to believe we could recover something, we'll give something for the president to consider. we do have options. we do have friends and allies in

the region. >> time for one more. >> thank you for your time. i have two questions. chairman milley, you were in serious earlier this month. it hit a lot of headlines in turkey. eventually the turkish minister of foreign affairs invited someone to provide an explanation. what was the message behind your visit, sir? and to secretary austin, turkey has requested to buy these f-16s. also modernization kits for its existing fleet. saying lack of approval will not on undermind the turkish security but also nato. i would like to ask you your

insights on this assessment and your thoughts about providing f-16's to turkey. thanks. >> yeah. turkey's a nato ally. we have a strong, longstanding strong relationship with turkey. we intend to do everything possible to keep it that way. it's real important to us that we maintain interop rablt between our nato allies. that will always be a focus, always be a priority. as you know, typically we don't comment on any pending equipment sales prior to congress being notified. i don't have any comments to make on that particular fms case. but again, i would just highlight the fact that turkey remains a very valuable partner

and we'll make sure we're doing everything we can to strengthen our relationship. >> remind you there's nothing more than a routine troop visit to determine the mission. check on that, see how we're doing, and to assess this potential center. we have almost 1,000 troops in syria. they are at risk. they are attacked from time to time with various types of munitions by various actors who are in the area of syria. we want to check on them and make sure the mission is vali validated. with respect to turkey. turkey and the united states have a common interest here. we've been there for years. the common interest is to ensure the enduring defeat of isis. the califait was destroyed but the organization, there's still remnants of that organization there. there's still refugee camps and prison camps there that we're helping train folks to help secure them.

it's in our interest and turkey's interest and something i needed to do. it's perfectly appropriate for the chairman to go check on how the force is doing especially when they are in harms way. >> secretary austin, general milley, thank you very much. this concludes the time we have available. thank you very much. >> john: secretary austin and milley there giving us information on what happened with that russian jet and the reaper drone. austin saying he talked to the russian defense minister, saying the u.s. will continue to fly and operate wherever international law allows. and then milley talked to his counter part. milley saying he doesn't know if the takedown was intentional but the harassment and interception was intentional. >> sandra: called it unprofessional, unsafe, and says he just does not know what the

intention of what that russian jet was. let's bring in general marc kellogg. general? >> sandra, look. words matter, and how you present them matters as well. he sort of sounded like lloyd austin sounded like the secretary of state not like a secretary of defense when very clear what he should have said to shogu and what he should have told the american people that this was unacceptable and here's the response we are going to take going forward which is purely aggressive. i remember back in 2018 when the bagdad attacked -- we picked up the phone. we called the russians. they said it wasn't us. we killed about 300 people at the time. they never did it again. once we sent that message to them. when mark milley made the comment about russia and the military forces they have, it is not good to disparage your enemy. one thing we know about the

russians. they use artillery and people. they are outnumbers the ukrainians by four to one. bahmout is in a critical fight. ukrainians are holding on. they're going to throw a lot of people at that. we had a chance to be very, very strong from both our chairman of the joint chiefs and all the secretary of defense. i don't think they were. i feel it's like, we're going to take a really diplomatic approach. we are the stronge est nation i the world. make it very clear to adversaries, to enemies, everybody around the world. do not mess with the united states of america. you do something like this, it's going to be on your watch. >> john: also, general, just to wrap this up. milley said we'll investigate this and move on. i don't know if i'm reading too much into this. but sounds like, over, done, we made our point and let's move on.

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transgender player. let's bring in caitlyn jenner. due to the breaking news, we're short on time. we want your response to this. in this moment of so many schools, teens, athletes having to make big decisions over how this is handled. your reaction to this. >> that's a big problem. first of all, i've been very consistent on this subject. i tried to protect women and sports from the leah thomas case. we won that battle. that's a good thing. these stories are all the same but with a little twist. what has happened is the radical left and their radical gender ideology have over the years tried to blur that line between men and women. it infected us not only with transgender issues but everything.

i just don't feel like that's a good thing. sandra, i'm here to make a statement today right here on fox news. are you ready for this statement? >> sandra: okay. >> there's a difference between men and women and that is a good thing. we should honor that. what is happening -- >> sandra: you always give it to us straight up. i know you used the word that they have hijacked, transgender in this country. 94 students affected by this. it's a big deal. we're watching these developments because there's many out there. i've got five seconds, kaitlyn. go ahead. >> all right. i don't like what the league did in banning those girls. they made a political decision for one person. they had 94 girls that were affected over one person. that's wrong. >> sandra: we'll have you back

soon. >> john: surprising comments about priests and scelibacy. in a recent interview that the ban on priests having sex was only temporary. jonathan morris left the priesthood to start a family. the catholic church, jonathan, has a different definition of temporary than i do. their temporary has been 1,000 years. >> that's exactly what i was thinking, john. no doubt. but pope francis obviously is speaking the truth here saying that celibacy is not an essential element of the catholic priesthood. there's catholic priests of the eastern rights that are married. i think it's -- he's talked a lot about this, but he's done

nothing. it's interesting. he speaks a lot about controversial issues, but he's made no significant change on this or many other issues. he has all of the power to do so. he has all the power. the catholic church in the united states right now is in a crisis of leadership. i have worked with exceptional, exceptional pastors and catholic priests throughout my years of priest hood. by the way, i'm still a committed catholic. the problem right now is that there are not enough of those exceptionally good men. i believe while it might not be the silver bullet, allowing married men to become priests, it would put a plug in a ship that is taking on water. why? because it would increase the candidate pool. not only of priests, not only of priests but how about of the leadership? from which those priests are

taken, bishops. right now the leadership crisis is severe. >> john: let me ask you this question. less than a minute. >> sandra: the celibacy tenant says -- priests have interpreted to mean that you can't have a true relationship with god if you are in love with another human being. can you do both? >> of course you can. as long as you do that within the confines of the church that you promised to obey, right? when i asked for dispensation to leave the priesthood to start a family, i tried to do that. in the end, we need good leaders. i think there would be more good leaders if married men were allowed to become priests.

>> john: if they change this, would you go back? >> i knew that was coming. let's do that in the next segment. >> john: jonathan morris, thanks so much the good to get your thoughts. >> thank you. >> sandra: we're out of time. >> john: what a time to be out of time. >> sandra: thanks to him for joining us. jam packed two hours, john. great to be with you. i'm sandra smith. >> john: i'm john roberts. "the story" starts now. >> martha: thanks, you guys. good afternoon, everybody. i'm martha maccallum. right now on "the story," the pentagon giving us an update amid new concerns about the war in ukraine triggering a larger conflict between the united states and russia potentially after the downing of one of our unmanned drones in the black sea. this is a very tense issue. the united states -- russia warning to stop what it called hostile military actions near its borders. the pentagon saying the russian