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it turns out that ron desantis, florida governor popular, won by 20 points, who they thought was anti-trump in tone and substance, he sounds more america-first and first then ukraine for as long as it takes. earlier this week, desantis called ukraine "a territorial dispute not dispute not in our national interest" he slammed by his virtual blank check to ukraine and open-ended as long as it takes commitment without objective benchmarks for success. he noted that this war distracts from our many other challenges, and he rejected further escalation with long-range missiles or f-16s, because the nuclear risks he believes is unacceptable with russia. the pro-war coalition heard this and they went wild. now you might've thought that desantis had pushed for, i don't know, russia to join nato as a reward for invading ukraine. >> the anti-woke guy

ron desantis, his ideal is putin's russia, where there are no gay people or women in power, where there are no christians. that's how he wants to see the world, that's why they love putin, and they love autocrats. >> laura: these are the same people, by the way who would still have us in iraq and doubling down on afghanistan. now always wrong, never in do doubt, and putting relentless pressure on desantis to change his view. and then gave into the warthogs. >> to say this does not matter, to say that war crimes don't matter, he is going to go behind for ukraine, putin, and this is a chance to stop putin before it becomes a bigger war, and china's watching. >> laura: yes, china is watching, lindsay, and they are undoubtedly in disbelief that once again america is depleting

the resources and ammunitions and taking her eye off the ball in asia, where taiwan is hanging in the balance. yet, the pro-war media, the same people antiwar your rack our rights with lindsey graham, mitt romney, and all of the rest. they are desa desantis' ukraine stance as well. "the wall street journal" called it his first big mistake and accused him of surrendering to the trump-ian look at the g.o.p. ouch. and they wanted to shy away from a pro-intervention policy has somewhere how a repudiation of reagan conservatism. and the foreign policy in the seismic consequences for the conflict and the party itself. yeah, i would say seismic, but in a good way. and by the way, the post attempting to defend reagan's

legacy would be like me trying to defend hillary clinton's legacy, it's absurd. they hated reagan. almost as absurd as the saber rattling on the russia shootdown of our drone. >> we should hold them accountable and say, if you ever get near a another u.s. international waters, new airplane will be shot down. what would ronald reagan do right now? he would start shooting russian planes down if they were threatening her assets. >> laura: incredibly irresponsible and inaccurate, ronald reagan for whom i worked believed the lament believed in peace and strength. that was a cornerstone of the campaign, that meant that a strong u.s. economy was essential for america to have a strong robust foreign policy that was backed up by an even stronger u.s. military. >> establishing a real peace must rest on the firm underpinning of a strong american economy. tragically, the weakened state of america's economy has significantly affected the ability to have the strongest

possible forum and defense policy is. our inflation is especially undermined the dollar, and has upset world markets. and when they question our economic reality, they begin to question our reliability as a strong ally. >> laura: now sadly that's a situation we find ourselves in today. america is weak because we made ourselves weak. just as we did in the mid-1970s. after being bogged down in vietnam, remember, for years we neglected the domestic economy and allowed runaway inflation to eat up american paychecks and destroy american optimism. but in the final weeks of the campaign, the closing argument included a warning. >> we cannot continue leading events in crisis get out of control, we must through sound management and planning be in control, so as to prevent being confronted by a crisis. this requires a sound economy, a strong national defense, and the

will and determination to preserve peace and freedom. >> laura: our first order of business under a new president is to totally turn this economy around. any republican who thinks that the 2024 election will be determined on woke issues as interesting as they are an important as they are are going to find himself or herself disappointed in the end. but let's face it, we have tried lindsey graham's way. we have tried the bush's way, this is not personal, it didn't work. the war fanatics and the g.o.p. and now the democrat party, they don't seem to realize that we are not living in the america of 1988 when reagan left office, today we are $31 trillion in debt, and many of our essential supply chains are dependent on china, and has to be our greatest adversary, that makes sense, of course our schools teach our kids in america was founded on racism and our economy is so weak that when the fed tries to raise interest

rates to fight inflation, you get bank runs. now most of the old g.o.p. supported and enriched china and weakened america, and now we are on the verge of one of the most serious geopolitical crises we have ever faced. now already it seems that china, not the u.s. is considered the go-to superpower for negotiating peace and new alliances, that's a change. and if we don't get our economic house in order, this dynamic will be irreversible. we are going to find ourselves with zero leverage around the world when we need leverage m most. so the last people that ron desantis should be taking advice from our the very people who help to get america into this mess. and that is "the angle" joining me now is missouri senator josh hawley, senator hawley, "the washington post" name do you as one of the big problems in our country, and the republican party, because you

are turning away from true conservatism, which is what "the washington post" is very worried about offending. >> it is an honor to be investigated by "the washington post," and of course it is good to see them defending conservatism, that's the ultimate insult that they would defend you. here is the deal, you are either a nationalist or globalist, it is that simple, ronald reagan was a nationalist. we need a robust nationalism, we need to not be afraid to say, yeah, we need to rebuild america, we need to make it strong, and he was right all those years ago, american national strength will make a strong abroad, and enable us to protect our interests are broad, but that's not what they want, the neocons are globalist and they want to turn america into the rest of the world, they won a liberal empire all over the world. and laura, it's a pipe dream, it's crazy and we can see the effects of it. war forever, the trade deficits forever, industry going to china, people out of work here, and you know, if you are working person, you can't get a good

paying job, why is that? because of the neocons policy is for the last 30 plus years. >> laura: now according to the new axios poll today, senator, just 42% of republican support providing further weapons and aid to ukraine compared to just 80% of democrats. but that is not what the g.o.p. establishment would have anyone believe, they would have everybody believe that oh, it is just a few outliers like josh hawley and tucker carlson and then, laura ingraham, and a few others. and the people are with us? that's a lie, is it not? >> yeah, that is not the truth. the truth is you have wall street and the united states senate on an island, and then have the rest of the country. and that sadly is more and more the way it goes. it seems these days. the truth is that republicans all over the country certainly in my home state of missouri know that we need to be focused on making america strong. we need to be focused on rebuilding this nation and if we are looking overseas, we need to

be focused on china, but what we don't need to do is spend anymore money on ukraine, stop riding them these checks with no accountability. stop this proxy war that this administration has been carrying on. we need to look at the europeans. it's their continents, they need a step up. no more welfare for the europeans. they should be taken the lead in their own national defense. but wall street and the u.s. senate don't get that. and i tell you, they will get it sooner or later, because the people will not be ignored forever. they are going to make their voice heard. >> laura: today on capitol hill, senator, this emerging banking crisis got a lot of attention as secretary of treasury jenny allen was asked by one of your colleagues if every community bank in oklahoma regardless of the size of the deposit would get the same treatment that to the silicon valley bank and the signature bank out. here's how she answered. >> a bank only gets that treatment if a majority of the fdi seaboard and i in

consultation with the president determine that the failure to protect uninsured depositors would create systemic risk, and significant economic and financial consequences. >> laura: senator, do you buy that? >> let me translate, you only get protection if you are a woke billionaire that gives money to democrats. that's what she basically said. and that's the truth, why are we getting bailed out? because it is a bunch of woke billionaires. and by the way, i have introduced legislation that would stop any taxpayer in this country from having to pay a dime towards the bailout of these tech billionaires who gave all of this money to democrats. >> laura: well, we need to stop all of the bailouts, we are out of dom regular people never get a bailout, they just get stuck with the bill. so senator, thank you. great to see you. all right, bad news, democrats,

it looks like kamala is here to stay. >> you have said that you intend to run in 2024 with president biden, is that your way of letting us know that he intends to run? >> well, as the president has said, we will not to make any announcements tonight on the show. but as joe biden has said, he intends to run in, and if he does, i will be running with h him. >> laura: [laughs] and there are times gail collins drove the point home even further. and a new pace titled the kamala removal fantasy, she writes try to imagine him starting off a second trump campaign by dumping the first female vice president who also happens to be the first vice president of black or asian descent. i have been part of the lead to replace kh club, but i have come to grips, it's just not going to happen. and with that bleak future staring him in the face, the white house is at a frantic mission to try to prop her up. and to furnish her lack ability,

credibility, but even a liberal poodle like stephen colbert can to lipstick on this one. >> last week, so my team, they were -- we were having long days as usual, and a member of my team decided to do something really sweet for me, winter is all must overcome it's really cold today, we have them light your fire place, so i decided when you were in that meeting to light the fire place. but if we got to open the flu. so secret service was like, ma'am, you cannot go back to your office. >> what is the actual role on a daily basis as you have found it? >> well, i have the group live loads of serving with joe biden who is president of the united states. >> that is an excellent answer, and the question was, what is the job of the vice president. >> laura: joining us now is an

executive editor of the comments on society. chris, i am sorry for the assault on your ears of the capital. but can they rehabilitate someone who just simply cannot function at the level that is required for the numbered two position in this country and the government? can they do it? >> well, you can make someone who is unlikable likable, you can make someone who refers this to do the homework, do the homework, but that seems to not really work with kamala harris. but the thing to remember, with the press being frustrated, "the new york times" being frustrated, her boss joe biden was not chosen as the candidate of the democratic party for who he is, it was what he is, electable and able to be donald trump as opposed to the host of radicals running to the left, and kamala harris was chosen clement chosen not because of who she has come about what she has as was mentioned in "the new york times" article, a woman who fit the bill for being black. the problem with her as a side from extreme democratic voters,

people were already going to vote for joe biden, she does not made a serious impact against voters. her ability to work in california was so low that when the governor gavin newsom was up for a recall, they never even used her. she used to be the senator from california, but she was useless to them politically and could not bring any help. the helpful and work come about firing her, they put themselves in this wall, put them in a difficult position, so they wanted to play power politics, they have the power now, and it's with the people that they chose to get there. >> laura: well, the only way they can conceivably dump kamala as if they replace her with someone who is even more fabulous. and that brings us to an op-ed in the hill, michelle obama would be democrats best chance to win back in 2024, they see barack obama's presidency is a type of modern camelot, democrats are nostalgic for the charisma they received emanating from obama and his family, so chris, like michelle would never

be anyone's number two, i don't even think she was obama's number two, or three. but is this just a fantasy? this whole michelle obama, that's like oprah, are they going to give up their life of fun and leisure in multiple homes for going back to the white house? i just don't see it. >> we know michelle obama does not think too highly of kamala. remember at the dnc, she would not be bothered to re-record her video now that she had been chosen. to reflect that, sitting on her vacation in martha's vineyard, did not care. there's not a lot of affection it seems for joe biden or his team amongst the obama's, and i cannot imagine her bailing her out. in the same thing for oprah winfrey, who pulls a lot of the strengths of the democratic party. i can imagine her being second to joe biden either. it so i think you are exactly right. they have limited their options right now to someone just based on identity politics as opposed to what the american people actually want with the electorate might support,

because of that they are pretty much stuck with her unless they want to pick the same governor of georgia stacey abrams. >> laura: this goes from bad to worse, we appreciate it, great to see you tonight. it could to be a landmark lawsuit that finally holds the so-called medical institutions accountable for their participation and their promotion of gender mutilation and children. up next, we speak to a girl who is suing medical giant for what happened to her when she was just 12. stay with us. i'm bill lockwood, current caretaker and owner. when covid hit, we had some challenges like a lot of businesses did. i heard about the payroll tax refund, it allowed us to keep the amount of people that we needed and the people that have been here taking care of us. see if your business may qualify. go to getrefunds.com.

♪ ♪ >> i think that some of this boils down to this, we are seeing it sweep across the nation, and it is being led by bullies, simply using the state apparatus to bring cruelty down on the most innocent amongst us. >> laura: cruelty, governor walz, well, the real cruelty is how miners are being butchered by doctors who put profit over protecting our kids. now at the same events where minnesota leaders celebrated becoming a sanctuary for the mutilation of our sons and daughters, lieutenant governor peggy flanagan went even further.

>> this is life-affirming and life-saving health. when our children tell us who they are, and it is our job as grown-ups to listen and to believe them. [applause] that's what it means to be a good parent. >> laura: let's just spell it out, how insane this line of thinking is, so are we to believe that if a 9-year-old says, i am frankenstein, do we need to then glue bolts on the side of his neck and associate somatic stitches all over his neck to look like frankenstein. if your 6-year-old things that she is a mermaid, do you send her to school with a tail? chuck her overboard and say, swim, good luck. yeah, sure, she might drown, but at least he would feel like you were really being a good parent according to the democrats

vision of things. and remember, if you dare to speak out against any other madness, you put lives at risk. >> gender affirming care is life-saving, medically necessary, age appropriate. >> children who are in need of and a serving of essential life-saving gender affirming health care. >> gender affirming health care for transgender kids is a best practice and potentially life-saving. >> laura: young troubled americans are not making these decisions on their own, they are being aided and abetted and encouraged, not just by parents, but huge medical conglomerates that are set to make an enormous amount of money. now take this next case, layla jane was born a girl, she suffered mental health issues from her childhood and into puberty, also difficulty, she had depression, anxiety, body dysmorphia, and suicidal

ideation. at 11 she said she was transgender, then at 12, doctors at kaiser permanente put her on puberty blockers and testosterone. and then at age 13, layla had a double mastectomy. while, at 17 she realized is she made a huge mistake, indeed transition. well now 18 and is fighting back. so this does not happen to anyone else. layla jane joins me now, along with her attorney harvey dillon. now you just filed a major lawsuit against kaiser permanente for what their doctor stated to you at age 13. what do you want to say about your experience to everyone watching tonight? >> overall i really want to say that i don't think i should've been allowed to change my sex, before i could legally consent to have sex.

i don't think i'm better off for the experience and transition added fuel to the fire with my pre-existing conditions. >> laura: what about the issue of informed consent that the parents, they basically had informed consent here. >> well, laura, the problem here is that the doctors at kaiser who you have seen from the file were all over the place. they said she was too young, and then other said we would be happy to do the surgery at age 13. she was not given the mental health treatment necessary and it was not disclosed to her family or to her that for example a teenage transition o or's desist from transition and an 80, 90% rate, that people who go through this regret it later on, that it was not a solution for her mental health problems like many girls, including most usually struggle with puberty, and it is our decision as a matter of law that an informed

consent was missing here, because -- is it impossible for a child to give informed consent? and for parents who are not fully informed with the child that was properly treated to also give that consent. and to put a point, that you have had me on with our client cole chloe coal as well, and dot doctors used the line on her and her parents, would you rather have a live son or a dead daughter? the exact same line was used in this case, so it appears to be a script that certain kaiser doctors and psychiatrists are using on these victims. >> laura: as was mentioned, you are suffering from some mental health challenges at the time this all went down. my question is, did doctors claim that you would ultimately feel better about yourself if this surgery went forward? >> definitely, definitely.

i was given no information about rates of desistance or anything like that, really the surgery and the treatments were kind of pushed as the only way forward. >> there is a huge profit motive. >> laura: people being bombarded by this message that you will be fulfilled, you will be your true self if you go down this road, now you represent a few of these plaintiffs, now how many do you think there are out there? >> laura, i think there are thousands of them. and statistics show the majority of the people who go through this as a child, they realize that it was a phase, and improper diagnosis, and they desist, but it's not as simple as taking a medication for your acne, it was permanence lasting irreversible changes to a girls body, for a couple of years, much less the five or six years

in this case, her breasts cannot be reconstructed or returned, and unknown on fertility, this is experimentation on america's children, and you and i were probably not aware of the extent that this is happening. and it is, i mean, i'm getting thousands of calls from people all over the country. and unfortunately, most are beyond the statute of limitations. >> laura: this is like the tobacco companies. they know exactly what they are doing. and they are doing it anyway. i think there is a massive class action in the offing here of all of these young people who have been tricked into doing this and have been lied to repeatedly, and the only way to stop this is to defeat them in court unless there is a federal legal avenue. that can be taken, but they have to basically be bankrupted before they are going to learn. by the way, kaiser did respond and we should read this, saying our positions in multidisciplinary care teams

practice compassion and evidence-based medicine founded on sound research and best medical practices, the care decisions always rest with the patient and their parents. and in every case we respect the patience and their families informed decisions about their personal health, do you feel like that really occurred in your case? >> no, honestly, between the age i was at and the headspace i was in, i don't feel like i should have been any place to make those kind of decisions. and i think the proper information and all of the side effects, it really was glossed over for my parents. >> laura: layla, i want to thank you for your bravery in speaking out, and to your lawyer for representing you, this is so important. we have to protect their children, and there should be no statute of limitations in a manner like this. it should be extended. thank you both for joining us.

now we just got our hands on biden's 2024 playbook, and it looks kind of similar in certain ways to what donald trump might believe on certain issues. we are going to explain what i mean next.

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drone. refuting the claim that it was not responsible in the black sea. a russian ship retrieved remnants of the surveillance plan today. but the pentagon says that the drone technology is safe. i am in need, now back to "the ingraham angle." >> this week i was invited to the white house of passing reduction act, and then i got to meet the president and the vice president. >> hey! >> are you vaccinated? >> yes, sir. >> was the president, man? was the president? >> do you want to tell joe biden right now? >> what's up, baby? take me out to dinner. >> did we get it? >> we got it. >> laura: well, and allowing tiktok stars to invade every corner of the white house, the biden administration did not just engage in anonymity as they were struggling on all fronts, they allowed a chinese spy app access to what is supposed to be among the most secure buildings

in the united states. but how are they feeling about tiktok today? >> we have expressed concerns over china's potential use of software platforms that could endanger america's safety and the national security. so that is the president's concern. that is why we have called on congress to take action. >> laura: that bill she is talking about would give joe biden the power to ban tiktok in the united states. while to us this and the administration's reported threat to ban the app that chinese owners don't sell their stakes is an obvious cop out, something the administration will point back to and say, well, look, we tried. but for the purposes of this exercise, let's take them at their word. maybe they really do want to ban tiktok. i don't think so, but let's just say they do. what does this actually mean? that donald trump was right, and as we approach the 2024 announcement, it's just the latest example of that omission.

here they were on the border policy during joe biden's first year in office. >> we cannot see it as anywhere different from the policy of the prior administration, which the president feels, we all feel was inhumane, immoral, ineffective. >> and here is a headline from last week. joe biden is looking at bringing back trump-era policies on the border, okay! a little late. and then there is this issue of energy, here is joe biden just four months ago. >> number drilling. there is number drilling! i have not affirmed any new drilling. >> laura: cannot even talk, but now joe biden just relit the willow project, the largest proposed drilling project on u.s. public land in alaska. oh, what do you know, trump and the republicans were right again. then there was this little campaign promise to the progressives on crime.

>> surplus military for law enforcement, they don't need that. >> we agree that we can redirect some of the funding? >> yes, absolutely. >> laura: but now joe biden show support behind a g.o.p. led effort to reveal the soft-on-crime bill, admitting the issue isn't just a mirage created by conservatives. so it's obvious as a political maneuver or move into the middle to appear more moderate at the 2024 election, but it is also an admission that conservatives have been right on all of these issues. well, all of these issues represent something that the angle has been stressing for years now. in the american public, they just want common sense. join me now, arkansas senator tom cotton, senator, wonderful to see you tonight, what is the left's pitch this go around? vote democrat so you can watch? stuff or two years of decline

and a lower standard of living? what is their pitch? >> yes, or make it four more years, laura, i think you are right, that the faces in joe biden a week or two, show that he knows his reelection is in trouble should he run, but pushing a very unpopular agenda for the first two years, but they also want to resonate with the american people. we saw what the democrats would do, at least we got a glimpse of it in the first two years of the joe biden presidency, even though they had narrow majorities in the house and evenly divided senate, they push through almost $3 trillion of reckless spending bills that drove record high inflation, and they open our borders to more than 6 million illegal aliens, we got weakness abroad, if joe biden were to run for reelection and win and get a democratic congress, all you need to do is look back to the last two years to see what you look at for the next four years. i don't think the american people will buy what they are selling.

>> laura: well, senator, on this bank issue, which people glaze over, it's critically important, because we keep going down this road as i said, and we can go down this road, who is going to buy our treasuries. and who is going to have a real faith in the u.s. system if it turns out that we just print money, spend money, print more money, spend more money, and we can't even get our own inflation under with hiking up interest rates, and what will happen against inflation. >> and then whenever joe biden and the democratic left buddies get in trouble, we just change the roles after the fact to bail them out. what heaven was silicon valley banking is the failures all the way down. it was joe biden and the democrats spending and created the inflation that drove the higher interest rate that put the squeeze on all of these banks. and then it was joe biden and elizabeth warren's ideological aversion to murderers of large companies that prevented them from bringing in a larger bank with a stronger balance sheet last week or six months ago to

acquire a bank like silicon valley bank or signature bank, and then even after when the receivership, there were many ways to make sure that the innocent victims here, the ploys of all of the companies who have uninsured deposits at those banks could have had their jobs protected without bailing out all of their well-connected political friends, so it's all the way down, it's the bank bailout, and as he said, it will lead to more inflation more instability in the financial system. >> laura: i have to get you on this tiktok issue come because of joe biden a administration is saying if you disassociate yourself from china, then we won't have to buy new, isn't that that it cop-out? show and it just tick-tock lament tiktok because we know what it is done, you cannot trust the chinese on this. you can't trust him on anything. >> i don't think there is any deal that can protect the american people from tiktok.

they are who bring up all the data on their phones, their emails, their text messages, it is also exposing our children to obscene and violent and eating disorder, and body image issues before they even click on a video, and of course it is a new source for a lot of americans, just think about that. the chinese communists now have a major new source, we never would've allowed it from the soviet days to be a major news outlet, that's why we should ban it entirely, no if's, anne's, and bots. from the phone, from the app store, that's the way to protect yourself from chinese communist manipulation. >> laura: long overdue, and senator, thank you for doing that. absolutely has to happen. thank you. and looking for some good news on a thursday night, well, charlie kirk is here next on what we just learned about colleges and admissions, stay there.

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♪ ♪ >> society has rules, and the first rule is, you go to college, you want to have a happy and successful life, you go to college. if you want to be somebody, you go to college. if you want to fit in, you go to college. >> laura: we have some really good news to bring it tonight, the once widely accepted

mind-set is being rejected. according to a new york new report from the national student clearinghouse research center, undergraduate credential earners dropped by 1.6% last academic year, the largest drop in a decade was the equivalent of about 58,800 fewer people compared to the year before. now you might think, why are we celebrating this, fewer people going to college and so forth? two reasons, one, the cost of college has risen at five times the rate of inflation over the last 50 years, it is obscene, and it's for things they don't really work in the real world. >> i was seeing so many people go to college, and they were getting degrees that they were in them and in them and using. >> a college degree has not push me any further, so why do i want to put in all the money to get a piece of paper that really isn't going to help in what i'm doing right now. >> laura: now it is not just the runaway costs, it is that

these institutions have gone from kind of being liberal kind of, a little bit to the left to actually engaging in acts of violence as an acceptable tactic against conservative speakers. >> whoa, whoa, whoa! joining me now is the person who is being protested there, charlie kirk, founder and ceo of turning point usa, author of the college scam which is important for this purpose, first of all, people who do not know that you, you are a first super nice person, i don't know why you cause people to go insane, and want to hurt you or cause trouble, but, i mean, what you say about these new statistics

about college admissions and college graduates? >> it is the best news of the month, it really is. i've been trying to push against the grain for years, i myself did not go to college, and just asked the question, is it worth it much more do we need as many people to go to college? and boy, you are not allowed to challenge an upper middle-class society, i've been to events where status and sometimes people would say, charlie, we as conservatives, we cannot send our kids to college, but this is great news. it's great news for a variety of reasons, and you articulated them. it is also great because these colleges need to fail. these institutions that have been going so far in the woke direction, the anti-american direction are going to suddenly lose their customers which are the students, how are they going to survive? they're only so many bailouts. so i look forward to some of these woke institutions consolidated or shut down or have to reconfigured someone so are academics. but it is promising a good that college enrollment is down.

>> laura: all of the alumni who just reflexively write checks to colleges that they may be don't have much of a connection to anymore, have not really followed up on how they are doing or whether they are fair or both sides of issues being aired, and that empowers them as well, does it not? >> yes, that is exactly right, and a turning point usa, we have a project where we celebrate donors when they divest their money from the university, about $70 million so far we have been able to get donors to stop giving to their alma mater or the university they went to, not a lot if you see hundreds of billions of dollars, but it is a good start. but that's the tragedy is that generations of conservatives who loved america, worked hard to go give money to institutions so that their grandkids learn to hate america, the very place they were able to get their success. i do think the corner is turning, when i wrote the book of the college scam, i received some moaning and groaning, but generally people in the middle and all across, they say,

charlie, you are right. it is kind of a scam. it is one of the most institutionally broken places in america, i'm glad to see finally that we are seeing student say, you know what, it's not worth it. >> laura: you are getting a lot of high fives now come it's great to see you tonight, and glad you survived the onslaught of the intolerant people. all right, speaking of colleges, a march madness ending for the ages, and when i am not very happy about. the last bite, we will explain it.

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just saw? wow! >> i have been feeling sick to my stomach all day. thankfully, uva, a couple of years back and there is always alabama. that's it for us tonight, thank you for watching. it is america and it is now and forever. greg gutfeld and the gang and they take it from here. [ applause ] ♪ yeah, i change my casts for you. everybody, happy thursday, everyone. you looked tantalizing. you know, i make fun of "the view" a lot because they keep on